Natalee Case Discussion #752 5/15 - 5/20/08

[WhiskeyGirl]

Destiny, OE said it was "Scanning Sonar" -- he made it clear it was NOT "Side Scanning Sonar." Scanning Sonar is NOT ground penetrating. I think they found something on the bottom -- but not buried.

Be back very late! -- Night all;!

Here is a web page that describes some of the technology that is available...

http://www.lmstechnologies.com/index.htm

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_a_sonar (small)

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/titanic/ballard.html  (Q & A about various scan technology and things underwater)

http://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/technology/tools/sonar/sonar.html

http://www.dosits.org/people/navigatn/3.htm

[Rob]

Early this year, Aruba as the first selected by the United States to negotiate this agreement to negotiate. Ireland, the Bahamas and Bermuda are also approached. It is however not succeeded in these countries to reach an agreement. if everything goes as planned, since the first "pre-cleared private plane in september this year to the United States departing from the General Aviation Terminal of the airport of Aruba

Unless they are setting a trap?

In the top portion of the quote I see that countries that do NOT have Aruba's baggage were not selected. It kind of reminds me when you go to the doctor and you are in network with your PPO or out of network. You pay more. Aruba appears to be in the network for God only knows what reason.

- if all goes as planned WTF???? what plan do these idiots have in store here? I guess in September we will find out. I'm not very hopeful that it's a good plan at all.

In the second quote about a "trap" -> if you want to round up this corrupt cabal, you just do it... which brings me back to Aruba is in the network. The US and Aruba are eternally tied together and there is no breaking this bind. We can try, but it will NEVER EVER HAPPEN. We do not know the overall reasons why this is the way it is.

come across.

me thinks that whatever this plan is - Bermuda, Bahamas and Ireland didn't want to get involved in whatever these cretins from the US want to do... so as always - Aruba is a willing participant.

something shaky is going on here.

[KarmaRoundUp]

First a Book club at the Van Der Sloot house and now Anita hosts Moments Of Silence. Is Anita in the running for the next woman of the year award in Aruba?

Going by what I can understand about this article anita sloot-hugen was born in arhem,holland in 1956.Can anyone understand more of this article?

Yes...it says she has very bad tastes in clothes....especially bathing suits...and that her husband and eldest son...are lying...stinking murderes...

LMAO!
All of that is obvious::::snickering::::
 

Hey Karma...I'm gettin' pretty fluent in PAP...eh?...I'll leave it to others to *translate* other parts of the article....LOL!

LOL...dang,I thought maybe you could translate why anita's belly looks sooooooo much bigger and when/where/why will she be wearing a"belly overhang"shorty blouse like I see so many other women on aruba wearing?

Funny you should mention that Karma....part of the article does mention, that Anita is having a *shorty see thru blouse* made from that painting in the lower left hand part of the article.....as I type!

Hang it on the wall on Friday...wear it to a party on Sat....multi-functional art....

Hahaha!
 

[klaasend]

Another painting of the AvdS-exhibition 'Moments of Silence' (Almost three years of silence by now...)

http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/111081/52499132/anita_v_d_sloot_exposeert_frustratiekunst.html

Thanks EURobert.  Seems like many of the Dutch feel the same way about the Sloots as we do. 

[WhiskeyGirl]

Virtual Flight Under Lake Tahoe
Sonar used to produce 3-D map for effort to keep water clear

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/1998/08/13/MN80068.DTL


How does Google Earth get details of ocean floors?
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070616132913AANUvEk


How to measure...
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071215174503AAGwV0e

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I also wonder about those in ALE working on the case.  If someone really wanted to find the answers the solve the case, who would they trust?  How would they know any evidence was safe from tampering if they sent it to the NFI or Holland?

Who knows where and how far the early tentacles of this case reach?

[SS]

http://marazulgallery.com/

is this some cruel reference to 'the right to remain silent' and 'a moment of silence in remembrance'?

The hand with the eye reminds me of the Jan Van Der Stratens painting. 

Spooky...huh....

Here is you something else to fuss about.  There are definitely pictures inside the eye orbs in the white spots.  One is a rather clear picture of a man (not palus) wearing glasses.  Took some work, but it, the once tiny picture is the size of the orb, almost.  Now, lets hear it for jumping blue.  I do not know who this man is, but he has a square face and looks very familar, but????.  Also, on one of the pictures by an artist who displayed the tree with roots, or whatever it is, there is a picture of Palus in the center of the tree as a scorpion with a Pvs face.  That can be seen and magnified by whomever sees the art display by the Lion's Den.  The reddish tree, with what at first glance looks maybe like a "knot" hole is not at all.
Many of those "paintings" have underlying messages and are either a "tease" or someone is having conscious pangs if such a thing exists in that bunch.   Jack blue

Jack, I'm glad that you're even able to look at those paintings.  I get a horrible feeling everytime I look at the paintings in Anita's show.  They all seem so "dark" to me and those eye looking things are grotesque.  They give me the creeps.

[Rob]

[bleachedblack]

Destiny wrote;

Jack...you must have access to some pretty heavy duty technology to acquire this data....sorry...I can't see a damn thing....other than art work, done by a mind, with a heavy, heavy load of...something....something....very dark...IMOO...

Technology? I was gonna guess psyllicibin.

Bleached, wouldn't want to deprive you.  Never had a drug, never wanted a drug and I despise drugs and dealers with a passion that would make you feel really leery what you say to me.  I have my pictures and at the right time, you will see them all.  The time is not right, nor should some be allowed to even look at them, as they wish to taunt me into displaying things they have no idea about.  Just wanted sweet Destiny and others to know.  Those people are not as smart as they want to think they are, nor Bleached, are you.   Jack b

jackb all I know is you keep alluding to things you "see" and have never shown an single ounce of proof. Stop talking about when "the time is right" ....silly. What brings me to this level of frustration with you is not this one reference but also others.

jackb wrote;

Marten does know the Kalpoes.  He, at one time had Depak on his friends list, Depak's face on an Aruban flage and captioned "king of bling."  Also he has spent some time in Aruba.  He is into martial arts and is or was keeping a book or journal on the Holloway case.  Very pro-vandersloot.  He was also on some boards at one time in Aruba during the times he says he was in Suriname, closer to the date of NH disappearance.  One Deutek. pic with Roman Polanski shown to be a woman-like person (in female clothes, at any rate) standing beside a sitting down, Polanski huggin him on the shoulders. Yes, I would venture to say they are all well acquainted, the perps and Marten. Marten had the pics of his room with all the worst serial killers books on a shelf (Gacy, Dahmer, the dude who killed the little girl and buried her outside his trailer before she died,) and I am thinking the Polly Klass murderer. Can't be sure about the last one.  It has been awhile.  He also had pics of Beth, Jug and some more tv'sand computers running. I told about the "doll house" like statues that turned out to be either very grainy photos with the Sloots looking out a window and a figure tied up with clothes like NH. Could have been some type of wierd art.  All those people need to burn in hell. 
Jackb

jackb wrote;

Rob, I can't do that because some of them are graphic and I cannot have the family see those as it is hurtful.  I have no way of knowing if they would do anything but hurt the family, but in the right hands they could show the visciousness of those perpetrators and to a certainty of her death. I have sent some to Debbie at BFN a long time ago and the Admin her in hopes they have reached the authorities and they can take them even further and find the truth.  I have not dealth directly with any, but one picture (the cross picked up by the F-16s) with Dave a the beginning of the case or when the F15s were doing their fly over.  I say some tiny pictures they took on here and spotted the cross and worked it to where I could read the lettering on it.  I contacted Dave on that, but that and the uncovering of Pvs face is all I have allowed to go out.  In the beginning of the case  I spotted the cloth were ALE was carrying and worked it to where it could be seen from the original picture and kept it awhile and let someone have it and it latter has been shown on the I-net, here BFN and everywhere. The original picture on the I-net blanked out the picture and I thought something needed to be showing in those areas and did some adjustments to lighting, and resizing, and soon with everything I did, it payed off.  Just wanted you to know it has been a long road trying to get information out without looking too foolish and above all not hurting that family.  I have had some earlier concern about hackers because whomever is responsible for the "makeovers" no doubt knows a lot about computers.  Anyway, I just felt like yaking.  Sorry, Jack B

The  's were added by me.The post about Marten and what you visualize on the shelfis really the best, but it is getting late....... and I imaginge everyone gets the point.

You will be the last to see anything I have.  Also your hair.....needs some dread locks.  There are those that have seen most of what I am speaking of.  It is not what I see, but what is proven to be there.  As for you believing or disbelieving?????who cares?  What I know is what counts.  Most of what people know is written before, but what I have is shown.  There is no room for "disinformation" and slight changes of words to reflect a lie.  I have seen it all on these blogs and know who changes meanings of sentences with only a change of word or two.
It is quite silly, but I also know those loyal to the cause and those who pretend to be, for the most part.  I will also keep that to myself.  I have been on this from the very beginning and will stay on it until Justice is served.  I was working on Amy Bradley long before this came into being.  I am not in the slightest deterred by your "pretense" of wanting proof.  You know it is out there and I am not the only one who has some of it.  The reason, as I said to even mention this is to enable those who are weary to be encouraged to take the next step.  No more, at this time, or no less.  Just so you know.  I don't believe you are impressing anyone with your demands of proof of anything.  You mostly want research done FOR you and seem to have an agenda that, perhaps is a bit different than most on here.  I say, hire you some researchers and leave my work to me.    Jackb

Can someone please help me with this. Has anyone seen photos provided by jackb that are enhanced to bring into focus  the things he claims to be able to see, a few of which are highlighted in the posts quoted above? Does anyone see Roman Polanski in any pictures we have ever seen posted here? Please I would welcome being able to
apologize to him/her for the few times I have been driven over the edge by his comments alluding to just this. As for you jackb, you know nothing about me, I repeat NOTHING[/b] so please stop alluding to any such thing. You claim to be a researcher, of facts, and yet once again your post seem to only hint at your impression.

[texasmom]

[SS]

Could we trade the purse for a totebag?

[Rob]

Could we trade the purse for a totebag?

[SS]

Could we trade the purse for a totebag?

 

[KarmaRoundUp]

Does anyone know anything about archeology or forensic science?  Once something had been identified through scans, how would a team of specialists go about removing something that had been stuck in the mud at the bottom of that pond? That area has obviously been scraped or dug up, and they most certainly attempted to restore the site to it's original condition.  Does anyone have a forensic science background?  It doesn't look like a deep hole was dug and then filled back in.

Looks like they just scraped some of the surface off,no digging.

[Rob]

[Rob]

we have a bid of 2 florins from Medley . . . thank you Medley for getting the bidding started. 

[klaasend]

we have a bid of 2 florins from Medley . . . thank you Medley for getting the bidding started. 

 

[Rob]

we have a bid of 2 florins from Medley . . . thank you Medley for getting the bidding started. 

 

our second bid has just come in and it's from Sandra K who bids a button and and a half of a cracker.   

come across 

[friend of monkeys]

Another painting of the AvdS-exhibition 'Moments of Silence' (Almost three years of silence by now...)

http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/111081/52499132/anita_v_d_sloot_exposeert_frustratiekunst.html

Thanks EURobert.  Seems like many of the Dutch feel the same way about the Sloots as we do. 

creepy pic on the front, w/ the boat and Natalee in the sand.
what are the ditch saying Klass???

[igsigs]

Rob, thanks.

Good luck getting the 1 florin from the meddler - the sporter drained that source years ago.

Hey FOM!   : )

[Rob]

Rob, thanks.

Good luck getting the 1 florin from the meddler - the sporter drained that source years ago.

Hey FOM!   : )

Hi ya igsigs... maybe that's why the bidding is so low at this point. I'm not at all sure this piece of crap fine art work will make it's reserve.

A half of a case of balashi should do it in my mind anyway.