Natalee Case Discussion #752 5/15 - 5/20/08

[SS]

Eefje van der Straaten  and Eefje's brother, Douwe

HUMmmm sure sounds like Daury, to me.? 

Oh, no.  Not another Daury!   

[Shell]

OMG, can you imagine your child having Anita as a teacher?  That is frightening.

Reminds me of that story of the "Gingerbread" house.  The brother and sister go to this house made of candy and cookies.  "...nibble, nibble little mouse...who's that nibbling at my house?"  Someone must remember it.  Is it Hansel and Gretle?  Anita has a Kiln at the home where she heats up ceramics and makes her masks.  She may be the wicked witch.
    Holy Moly..........am I morbid or what?   Jackb

Anita has a kiln? Wow, I did not know that. After seeing for myself what extreme heat does to objects, the kiln takes on a new meaning for me. I wonder, did they check that out?

[klaasend]

Eefje van der Straaten  and Eefje's brother, Douwe

HUMmmm sure sounds like Daury, to me.? 

Hmmm, yes it does 

[hotping]

Is Anita's middle name "Butch"? ( I know, I know...I should not have said that out loud)

  That's what I heard! 

[jackb]

Her son tells the world, surreptitiously, that he disposed of a little girl that he didn't know if she was dead or alive, and she is doing an art gallery thingie.

THIS IS THE SICKEST THING YET!

Den Dolder Den Dolder

This is SICK!

I better shut up!

Anita is one of those people that lives in a dream world refusing to face reality. IMHO

That crazy bee aytch is trying to garner sympathy after that family raped, tortured and killed a young girl.  She is using this as a publicity to sell books, sell art and get her name out.  That stupid dykie looking tool is the bride of Satan.  Whomever is covering this up has got to be as bad as that family and in some kind of satanic cult.  They are evil and their children better escape before they become tools and lose their chance to have salvation from hell.
Jack b

[Observer]

OMG, can you imagine your child having Anita as a teacher?  That is frightening.

I wouldn't let Her near My Dog much less My kids! 

 

[jackb]

OMG, can you imagine your child having Anita as a teacher?  That is frightening.

Reminds me of that story of the "Gingerbread" house.  The brother and sister go to this house made of candy and cookies.  "...nibble, nibble little mouse...who's that nibbling at my house?"  Someone must remember it.  Is it Hansel and Gretle?  Anita has a Kiln at the home where she heats up ceramics and makes her masks.  She may be the wicked witch.
    Holy Moly..........am I morbid or what?   Jackb

Our guys would have.  Theirs, not much chance of it.  I think it takes (it may be incorrect as it has been a long time since I knew for sure and am too lazy to research it right now) 8000 degrees to incinerate a body, but that kiln could do a partial job.  I am not thinking they get over 3000 degrees in a home job, but I have no idea how big the one he has and may still have gets.  That wouldn't take much researching about the temps, etc.  Just tired, really.  Thought everyone knew this.  She is an art "tart" and does all this and then some.  She may be good at graphic art and changed a lot of pics to where they were just off a bit from the originals posted.  Someone has for sure.  Depak is also supposed to be into graphics and the Sloot kids probably came out of the Dyke crack holding a mouse.  They are a family to PREYS together and stays together, likely to guard evidence that has been left in places on that property or they would have left, recon?   Jackb

Anita has a kiln? Wow, I did not know that. After seeing for myself what extreme heat does to objects, the kiln takes on a new meaning for me. I wonder, did they check that out?

[wreck]

jackb - I guess I'm not folowing you????????? 

[Observer]

2 more pics of the pond at Montserat in February. It appears to be very shallow in that 2nd picture.

[jackb]

Eefje van der Straaten  and Eefje's brother, Douwe

HUMmmm sure sounds like Daury, to me.? 

Oh, no.  Not another Daury!   

Maybe Joran is really Vanderstratten's kid.  I would not be suprised.  They all canoodle like a bunch of barn animals.   jackb

[Shell]

Jack, after seeing the aerial view of the sloot compound  , I don't see where there could be a kiln. I thought they are built a reasonable distance from the living quarters but I really don't know, only speculating. I do know that when our house burned, we never did see the remains of the cat.

[Destiny]

I don't see it.  Must not be enlarging these things enough.
Reminds me of highschool, and the class where we were shown alchohol ads that subliminally dispayed images of death and devils and darkness.   Anyone else get that class?

Anywho....back to the regularly scheduled programming, right?

Actually saw a great tv production on public broadcating, on subliminal techniques used by the advertising industry...until the FCC made them stop...it's still used in many print forms of advertising...especially Booze ads...lot's of subliminal junk in the photos of drinks with ice cubes in them...Thanks for reminding me!

O/T
Speaking of subliminal information.  There are some great tapes that you can buy with music and subliminal messages to stop smoking.  I've tried them and they do work a little.  Of course, I've tried everything except a frontal lobotomy.  I have recently discovered that I have developed an allergy to the patches.  They are burning my skin and I'm now having a bad reaction to them.  I'm up the creek now without the paddle.  How's it going for you?

Sorry to hear of your reaction to the patch...My Dr. gave a script of chantrex....think that's right spelling...but, he said not to start it, until I'm in a less stressful situation...we'll see

[jackb]

jackb - I guess I'm not folowing you????????? 

We were talking about kilns.  She asked wonder if ALE checked out Anita's kiln and I said that Our guys from US would have had it been up to them, but it is doubtful if ALE would have wanted to.  Anita works ceramics and does different art projects, makes masks, and paints, etc.  She, as it was written over two years ago, has a kiln in her home and I answered to whomever was asking me about this kiln.

'Our guys would have.  Theirs, not much chance of it.  I think it takes (it may be incorrect as it has been a long time since I knew for sure and am too lazy to research it right now) 8000 degrees to incinerate a body, but that kiln could do a partial job.  I am not thinking they get over 3000 degrees in a home job, but I have no idea how big the one he has and may still have gets.  That wouldn't take much researching about the temps, etc.  Just tired, really.  Thought everyone knew this.  She is an art "tart" and does all this and then some.  She may be good at graphic art and changed a lot of pics to where they were just off a bit from the originals posted.  Someone has for sure.  Depak is also supposed to be into graphics and the Sloot kids probably came out of the Dyke crack holding a mouse.  They are a family to PREYS together and stays together, likely to guard evidence that has been left in places on that property or they would have left, recon?   Jackb'

(I just put it in before the end of their quote, like a dummy.)

[Shell]

I will also add, the notion of cremation and burial at sea would insure "no body, no case". I am not happy where my mind is wandering.

[SS]

05/18/08

https://www.vinelink.com/vinelink/detailsAction.do?siteId=31000&agency=9&id=0900280301&searchType=offender

Offender Record
Offender ID: 0900280301 Offender Name: DAURY DANIEL RODRIGUEZ Date of Birth: 06/28/1986 Age: 21 Custody Status: In Custody Location of Offender: Hudson County Jail Race: Hispanic Gender: Male



https://www.vinelink.com/vinelink/detailsAction.do?siteId=31000&agency=9&id=0900277886&searchType=offender

Offender Record
Offender ID: 0900277886 Offender Name: RAMONA  RODRIGUEZ Date of Birth: 11/11/1958 Age: 49 Custody Status: In Custody Location of Offender: Hudson County Jail Race: Hispanic Gender: Female

[Destiny]

I think this woman went insane... and I don't mean recently.



There is something very very wrong with this person. I don't think any behavioral specialist is going to solve her psychosis.

To understand Joran, you need to understand Anita. And it's not pretty. Most of the time we all think it's Paulus, but after thinking about this very bizarre relationship, it's Anita.

Joran told us all that along time ago. Maybe we weren't listening as well as we should have.

I think Anita needs a Monkey enema.

 

I'll back up the fire truck...you turn her around...

[klaasend]

TES is now in Aruba for their search for Jose Vicenzo Tromp

Texas Equu Search lo yuda busca Vicenzo        
Monday, 19 May 2008 - 00:01 
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[hotping]

I think this woman went insane... and I don't mean recently.



There is something very very wrong with this person. I don't think any behavioral specialist is going to solve her psychosis.

To understand Joran, you need to understand Anita. And it's not pretty. Most of the time we all think it's Paulus, but after thinking about this very bizarre relationship, it's Anita.

Joran told us all that along time ago. Maybe we weren't listening as well as we should have.

I think Anita needs a Monkey enema.

 

I'll back up the fire truck...you turn her around...

There She Blows...YUK!!!!!! 

[jackb]

Jack, after seeing the aerial view of the sloot compound  , I don't see where there could be a kiln. I thought they are built a reasonable distance from the living quarters but I really don't know, only speculating. I do know that when our house burned, we never did see the remains of the cat.

The kilns do not have to be outside.  The only ones I ever saw were inside and huge, inside block buildings and I never saw smoke coming out even when they were operating.  These were commercial.  It was something like a tour.  I saw different types.  One was making a type of ceramic used for space ship tiles and technical end-products and the other  for something to do with wood products.  I do not have much knowledge of kilns themselves.  The ones doing the ceramics used sand and heated it to such an extreme hight degree the sand melted into and could be etched upon, etc.  Anyway these were many and in enclosed buildings.  How they heated the kilns would not have been with anything noticable that smoked, but the smell was obvious.  It smelled like BO to me.  Like someone who failed to take a bath.  Maybe that is one reason Palus smells is the kiln smells have seeped into his system along with his rotten hygiene (lol.)  It would seem that the heat for that day would show up on some type of GS thermal videos in that area, but that would be if they have those shots from that time period.  Perhaps the Sloots would want her "gone" to Holland if she was the Kiln operator at home and no one knew  how to do this as well as her.  They would make sure Anita was conveniently "out of town" and not there destroying evidence.  What a huge speculation this is.  Heat from a cermatory would show up on satelite, and most likely the heat from a hot spot home kiln.  According to how all that works as well.   Jackb

[Destiny]

Her son tells the world, surreptitiously, that he disposed of a little girl that he didn't know if she was dead or alive, and she is doing an art gallery thingie.

THIS IS THE SICKEST THING YET!

Den Dolder Den Dolder

This is SICK!

I better shut up!

I don't think Anita is insane.  I think she is conniving.  
I think she uses guilt to control her whole family.
Paulus looks like a weak man, but I thnk he fancies himself
a ladies man.  Anita plays the martyr and guilts them all.

I agree Magnolia.

I agree, too.  I think Paulus is a major passive/aggressive.  He's little whimp around domineering Anita and then he acts out by sexually abusing young women.

BINGO...