Natalee Case Discussion #753 5/20 - 5/28

[Observer]

I have to ask a dumb question....forgive me...is this Tromp guy all of you are looking for the one TES is searching for also or is this a different one?

I was looking to see if he was related to the missing Tromp guy.. I think ******* is looking to make himself cwaaazzyyy!!!
 

I am trying to connect Effi Tromp who was busted for with Mansur and Ochoa with the missing man Jose Tromp. Its very clear Luis Mansur blames him for being set up. If you look at the dates Jose went missing just before this all went down.

[jackb]

I have to ask a dumb question....forgive me...is this Tromp guy all of you are looking for the one TES is searching for also or is this a different one?

I was looking to see if he was related to the missing Tromp guy.. I think ******* is looking to make himself cwaaazzyyy!!!
 

I am trying to connect Effi Tromp who was busted for with Mansur and Ochoa with the missing man Jose Tromp. Its very clear Luis Mansur blames him for being set up. If you look at the dates Jose went missing just before this all went down.

This kid does look somewhat like the missing kid.  He also looks to be kin to the Croes klan.  j/b

[nonesuche]

Kermit, Lala's & Rob - thanks for the laughs today. Kermit I hope Clinton didn't try to jump your bones 

I have to say I don't or can't have the insight to finger the corruptive binder between US and Aruba that is driving the continued cover-up, but I do think there is a duplicitous point that would make all of us sleep less soundly at night if we knew all the particulars. That being said, Janssen was sent to Aruba originally for a reason - and rewarded with her return to the NL for a reason - case closed on Janssen I say or shall we just call her blonde head with black heart?

O/T response to Maggie - I work in consulting again of late but my daughter runs the cookie/cupcake operation. Yes she has a website but we don't publicize it on SM due to darker forces such as lurk at refugees, Aruba, etc. I fear we don't do chocolates. Thank you for your interest 

[Observer]

[2NJSons_Mom]

Checking out 24ora, I noticed Kraft is a sponsor for the Soul Beach Festival this year.  I went to the Soul Beach Festival site and realized that Kraft is the sponsor for tonights activities.  Also noticed this on the schedule for Sunday night....

Main Stage Concert 7:00p – 11:00p
Aruba Entertainment Center (Oranjestad)
(General Admission -
Standing Room & Bleachers)

- Erykah Badu
- Sean Kingston
- Paige
Nightclub Parties 11:00p – 4:00a
Havana Night Club (Oranjestad)

http://www.soulbeach.net/2008/index.html


Was there something like this in 2005?  At this point, I no longer remember.

[klaasend]

******* - yeah that suicide was in 24ora a couple days ago. 

2NJ - I don't think there were any parties like that on Sunday night when Natalee was there as it was the last day of the Soul Beach festival in 2005.  I could never find any after parties that night, only on previous nights.

[Lala'sMom]

Checking out 24ora, I noticed Kraft is a sponsor for the Soul Beach Festival this year.  I went to the Soul Beach Festival site and realized that Kraft is the sponsor for tonights activities.  Also noticed this on the schedule for Sunday night....

Main Stage Concert 7:00p – 11:00p
Aruba Entertainment Center (Oranjestad)
(General Admission -
Standing Room & Bleachers)

- Erykah Badu
- Sean Kingston
- Paige
Nightclub Parties 11:00p – 4:00a
Havana Night Club (Oranjestad)

http://www.soulbeach.net/2008/index.html


Was there something like this in 2005?  At this point, I no longer remember.

Good question...I don't remember where the festival took place on Aruba in 2005.  I am sure there is a smart monkey or two out there that does know.

[klaasend]

Checking out 24ora, I noticed Kraft is a sponsor for the Soul Beach Festival this year.  I went to the Soul Beach Festival site and realized that Kraft is the sponsor for tonights activities.  Also noticed this on the schedule for Sunday night....

Main Stage Concert 7:00p – 11:00p
Aruba Entertainment Center (Oranjestad)
(General Admission -
Standing Room & Bleachers)

- Erykah Badu
- Sean Kingston
- Paige
Nightclub Parties 11:00p – 4:00a
Havana Night Club (Oranjestad)

http://www.soulbeach.net/2008/index.html


Was there something like this in 2005?  At this point, I no longer remember.

Good question...I don't remember where the festival took place on Aruba in 2005.  I am sure there is a smart monkey or two out there that does know.

http://www.blacknews.com/pr/aruba101.html

[2NJSons_Mom]

The following is from May 22, 2005 at http://www.archive.org/web/web.php

http://web.archive.org/web/20050412011851/www.soulbeach.net/event.php

(Subject to change without prior notice)

Wednesday, May 25
? Opening Party? Welcoming Celebration

Thursday, May 26
? Live Radio Remote Broadcasts
? Soul Beach Daytime Event
? Nightclub Parties

Friday, May 27
? Live Radio Remote Broadcasts
? Soul Beach Daytime Event
? Comedy Night
? Nightclub Parties    Saturday, May 28
? Soul Beach Daytime Event
? Main Stage Concert
? Nightclub Parties

Sunday, May 29
? Soul Beach Daytime Event
? Main Stage Concert


The following was oddly dated Aug 18, 2005 with no dates available between May 22nd and Aug 18th that year.

http://web.archive.org/web/20050819015525/www.soulbeach.net/event.php

 (Subject to change without prior notice)

Wednesday, May 25
OPENING PARTY-WELCOME CELEBRATION
Euphoria with DJ General Lee
9:00 p.m. ? 3:00 a.m.

Thursday, May 26
LIVE RADIO REMOTES

Renaissance Aruba Resort & Casino
Doug Banks 6-10:00 a.m.

Radisson Aruba Resort & Casino
WVEE, Frank Ski 6-10:00 a.m.

Holiday Inn SunSpree Resort Aruba
WHUR, 4-8:00 p.m.

Wyndham Aruba Resort Spa & Casino
WVAZ, 4-8:00 p.m.

MooMba Beach
KJLH, Kevin Nash 1?6:00 p.m.

SOUL BEACH DAYTIME EVENT
MooMba Beach with DJ Fred Loc
9:00 a.m. ? 3:00 p.m.

SOUL BEACH CASINO NIGHT & AFTER PARTY
Royal Cabana Casino with DJ General Lee 8:00 p.m. ? 3:00 a.m.


Friday, May 27
LIVE RADIO REMOTES

Renaissance Aruba Resort & Casino
Doug Banks 6-10:00 a.m.

Radisson Aruba Resort & Casino
WVEE, Frank Ski 6-10:00 a.m.

Holiday Inn SunSpree Resort Aruba
WHUR, 4-8:00 p.m.

Wyndham Aruba Resort Spa & Casino
WVAZ, 4-8:00 p.m.

MooMba Beach
KJLH, Kevin Nash 1?6:00 p.m.

SOUL BEACH DAYTIME EVENT
MooMba Beach with DJ Fred Loc
9:00 a.m. ? 3:00 p.m.

PLATINUM COMEDY SERIES JAM
Entertainment Center (outdoor event)7-11:00 p.m.

Mike Epps
Alex Thomas
Brandon T. Jackson
Hosted by Horace HB Sanders

AFTER PARTY
Havana Night Club with DJ Frank Ski
11:00 p.m. ? 4:00 a.m.    Saturday, May 28SOUL BEACH DAYTIME EVENT
MooMba Beach with DJ Fred Loc
9:00 a.m. ? 3:00 p.m.

MUSIC CONCERT
Havana Beach Club Amphitheatre (outdoor on the beach) 7-11:00 p.m.
Wyclef Jean

United We Funk featuring
The Dazz Band
Lakeside and
ConFunkShun
AFTER PARTY
Havana Night Club with DJ Biz Markie 11:00 p.m. ? 4:00 a.m.

Sunday, May 29
SOUL BEACH DAYTIME EVENT
Holiday Inn SunSpree Resort Aruba with DJ Fred Loc 9:00 a.m. ? 3:00 p.m.

MUSIC CONCERT
Havana Beach Club Amphitheatre (outdoor on the beach) 7-11:00 p.m.
Lauryn Hill
Boyz II Men
Hosted by Doug E. Fresh

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[Observer]

I will bet if you asked this lady on June 3rd 2005 if PVDS picked up Sebastian on May 29th at 6-8 Pm at her house she would have said no.


Mashelle Zeolla, President of International Friends of Aruba, hands out flyers seeking information about Natalee Holloway, June 3, 2005, in the lobby of the Holiday Inn in Oranjestad, Aruba. 

[San]

but this is more important

Her (KJ)answer was that they were waiting on video from the Netherlands, because the questioning of the boys would be included on the video. Never before has a hearing in Aruba on the video. Why that had to happen now, could not be made clear to me. I was against, because the police never previously had included video interviews and had no experience with this method of questioning.

KJ is FOS because early on in this case I read it was a law to video tape interrogations.  KJ was hiding the fact that they were suppose to do this.  She herself should be held accountable for what happened in this case.  She was the one in charge and she deliberately failed.

[Observer]

This looks like Mashelle Zeola again celebrating Jorans release with Anita and PVDS before the Judge actually made his ruling. Amazing that it was Anita's two friends Mashelle Zeola and Julia Renfro that led the first searches for Natalee in early june 2005.

[Observer]

but this is more important

Her (KJ)answer was that they were waiting on video from the Netherlands, because the questioning of the boys would be included on the video. Never before has a hearing in Aruba on the video. Why that had to happen now, could not be made clear to me. I was against, because the police never previously had included video interviews and had no experience with this method of questioning.

KJ is FOS because early on in this case I read it was a law to video tape interrogations.  KJ was hiding the fact that they were suppose to do this.  She herself should be held accountable for what happened in this case.  She was the one in charge and she deliberately failed.

She should be fired and doing a prison term right now but instead she was given the woman of the year award in Aruba and given the same job in Holland. Who the hell nominated her as woman of the year and why? I want to here what the AG Mrs Croes says about KJ.

[crazybabyborg]

This looks like Mashelle Zeola again celebrating Jorans release with Anita and PVDS before the Judge actually made his ruling. Amazing that it was Anita's two friends Mashelle Zeola and Julia Renfro that led the first searches for Natalee in early june 2005. 

Anita should be jailed for carrying that tiny, little, gaudy purse and wearing a shear shawl, if for nothing else.

The fashion police couldn't do a worse job than ALE has.

[carpe noctem]

 

If Anita Vandersloot was in the story
The Three Little Pigs...

She would have been the one that constructed
hers out of cold cuts and cheese doodles!

...and she would have done eaten her house down before the
wolf got there, forget about all the huffin and the puffin.

[wreck]

If Anita Vandersloot was in the story
The Three Little Pigs...

She would have been the one that constructed
hers out of cold cuts and cheese doodles!

...and she would have done eaten her house down before the
wolf got there, forget about all the huffin and the puffin.

  

[San]

If Anita Vandersloot was in the story
The Three Little Pigs...

She would have been the one that constructed
hers out of cold cuts and cheese doodles!

...and she would have done eaten her house down before the
wolf got there, forget about all the huffin and the puffin.

[Rob]

cold cuts

 

[dennisintn]

but this is more important

Her (KJ)answer was that they were waiting on video from the Netherlands, because the questioning of the boys would be included on the video. Never before has a hearing in Aruba on the video. Why that had to happen now, could not be made clear to me. I was against, because the police never previously had included video interviews and had no experience with this method of questioning.

KJ is FOS because early on in this case I read it was a law to video tape interrogations.  KJ was hiding the fact that they were suppose to do this.  She herself should be held accountable for what happened in this case.  She was the one in charge and she deliberately failed.

She should be fired and doing a prison term right now but instead she was given the woman of the year award in Aruba and given the same job in Holland. Who the hell nominated her as woman of the year and why? I want to here what the AG Mrs Croes says about KJ.

it's just way too bad that aruba doesn't have electronics stores that carry cameras or that couldn't repair the ones that a.l.e. all ready owned that had to have been used on other interrogations of other cases.  excuses like that and the putting off of announced searches from "credible" tips that didn't happen from 3 to 6 mos. after announced by a.l.e.  all lies, all excuses, and changed or modified as needed for justification.
dennisintn

[carpe noctem]

LOL!


That purse of hers gets me everytime. It is an art project that took a hot glue gun, no doubt. She probably made it just after painting the psychedelic lizard on her mailbox.