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« Reply #580 on: May 30, 2008, 05:44:09 PM »

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« Reply #581 on: May 30, 2008, 05:45:03 PM »

very busy in this thread. i can't keep up with everything.
so this is maybe old news:

Aruban OM says the shoes are NOT of JvdS.

they are of the same type.
but they are ladies shoes. and they were manifactured 3 years ago.
and they are not JvdS size.

http://frontpage.fok.nl/nieuws/93217/-%5Bupd%5D-Jorans-verdwenen-gympen-gevonden?.html

Not that I don't believe this but just WHO is reporting it?

it says 'according to the OM'.
so i guess Fok! contacted the OM or they got it from another news source who contacted the OM.

i am going to have look around if other media is reporting the same.
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« Reply #582 on: May 30, 2008, 05:45:09 PM »

The mines are just on the other side of the tower, not in that picture.  Remember when Marian said "look tomorrow for the palace will rumble.  Eyes burning in the Xenon. Well, I thought maybe Xenon gas came out from the mines, but now i remember Xenon lights are on most military vechicles.. And when they talk about the bird on the wire.  when I worked in communications at AA, we referred to a bird on the wire when the communication was garbled.  When Marian talks about the owner of the block and hammer, I thought she may have been talking about the owner of a very exclusive Jewelry store in Aruba not a blacksmith.  And when they said yellow jacket, I thought maybe Dirty Hand could belong to the Lions of The Netherlands, thus America would be so reluctant to make waves....Well, I could go on and on but make make lunch for mum....ttyl

Not trying to be a PITA here but where is the yellow jacket reference from?  I would like to see it. TIA
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« Reply #583 on: May 30, 2008, 05:46:03 PM »

Janet, there is also no reference to the "seizure" that Jug and Beth are / were adamant that the ALE was asking about.

I contend that the real statement makes those direct and specific references.

Something is not jiving. I'm not saying that it's not authentic, because I believe it is. I'm just saying that is not Joran's first witness statement... a statement that need to be disappeared due to Joran's own admissions.

Remember Paulus was allowed to "tweek" his statements and make changes.
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« Reply #584 on: May 30, 2008, 05:47:53 PM »

check out her "friend" Joran and his "quote":
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« Reply #585 on: May 30, 2008, 05:50:31 PM »

very busy in this thread. i can't keep up with everything.
so this is maybe old news:

Aruban OM says the shoes are NOT of JvdS.

they are of the same type.
but they are ladies shoes. and they were manifactured 3 years ago.
and they are not JvdS size.

http://frontpage.fok.nl/nieuws/93217/-%5Bupd%5D-Jorans-verdwenen-gympen-gevonden?.html

Sorry I can't read what is posted at the link you provided, nor can I read where that info is from. Could you please tell me ?

ok, i got to the source now.

newspaper De Pers got it from an Aruban OM spokesperson.

http://www.depers.nl/binnenland/207391/Schoenen-op-Aruba-niet-van-Joran.html

http://www.elsevier.nl/nieuws/laatste_24_uur/artikel/asp/artnr/207879/

+ ladies shoes
+ too small size
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« Reply #586 on: May 30, 2008, 05:50:48 PM »

here an article about the upcoming Renee Giele documentary.
i'll do a full translation later.

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On 30 May it is exactly three years ago Natalee Holloway without a trace disappeared on Aruba. The disappearance of this American has got an unprecedented media attention since then. According to the Curaçao film maker Renée Gielen the entire investigation team in the Holloway case is suffering from tunnel vision.
http://antilliaans.caribiana.nl/aruba/car20080530_gielen-holloway





Thanks Caesu...saving the link...Des...
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« Reply #587 on: May 30, 2008, 05:54:28 PM »


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Thanks, BB....my point was that he planned on CnC's earlier that evening...

Yep that was why I posted Jamie's statement, sure seems like they had plans fairly early on that eve.

Yep...Joran trying to get all the *pimps* together for a night of horror...
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« Reply #588 on: May 30, 2008, 06:02:13 PM »

very busy in this thread. i can't keep up with everything.
so this is maybe old news:

Aruban OM says the shoes are NOT of JvdS.

they are of the same type.
but they are ladies shoes. and they were manifactured 3 years ago.
and they are not JvdS size.

http://frontpage.fok.nl/nieuws/93217/-%5Bupd%5D-Jorans-verdwenen-gympen-gevonden?.html

It was ONE shoe, most likely, first of all.  OM are liars, secondly, and thirdly, according to Dario, the shoe is large.  Now, if there are any more lies, take it up with DARIO.  We are NOT as stupid as some would like to think.  Also, how would they know?  They only saw pictures, most likely as well, or they are lying through their teeth.
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« Reply #589 on: May 30, 2008, 06:03:09 PM »

very busy in this thread. i can't keep up with everything.
so this is maybe old news:

Aruban OM says the shoes are NOT of JvdS.

they are of the same type.
but they are ladies shoes. and they were manifactured 3 years ago.
and they are not JvdS size.

http://frontpage.fok.nl/nieuws/93217/-%5Bupd%5D-Jorans-verdwenen-gympen-gevonden?.html

Not that I don't believe this but just WHO is reporting it?

it says 'according to the OM'.
so i guess Fok! contacted the OM or they got it from another news source who contacted the OM.

i am going to have look around if other media is reporting the same.

Thank-you caesu.
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« Reply #590 on: May 30, 2008, 06:05:53 PM »

This just in from the Aruba OM -- "the world are flat" -- now move along, nothing to see here".
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« Reply #591 on: May 30, 2008, 06:06:12 PM »

To Lela mum, I didnt mean to say yellow jacket, I was thinking about what they wear -  also I think mobile phones are the phones that are like in police cars-you cant carry them around. 
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« Reply #592 on: May 30, 2008, 06:08:57 PM »

very busy in this thread. i can't keep up with everything.
so this is maybe old news:

Aruban OM says the shoes are NOT of JvdS.

they are of the same type.
but they are ladies shoes. and they were manifactured 3 years ago.
and they are not JvdS size.

http://frontpage.fok.nl/nieuws/93217/-%5Bupd%5D-Jorans-verdwenen-gympen-gevonden?.html

It was ONE shoe, most likely, first of all.  OM are liars, secondly, and thirdly, according to Dario, the shoe is large.  Now, if there are any more lies, take it up with DARIO.  We are NOT as stupid as some would like to think.  Also, how would they know?  They only saw pictures, most likely as well, or they are lying through their teeth.
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Jack I'm with you on this.  I don't believe anything out of the OM office.
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« Reply #593 on: May 30, 2008, 06:11:30 PM »

To Wreck, thats funny- dont you just love Star Wars!
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« Reply #594 on: May 30, 2008, 06:34:57 PM »

Janet, there is also no reference to the "seizure" that Jug and Beth are / were adamant that the ALE was asking about.

I contend that the real statement makes those direct and specific references.

Something is not jiving. I'm not saying that it's not authentic, because I believe it is. I'm just saying that is not Joran's first witness statement... a statement that need to be disappeared due to Joran's own admissions.

Remember Paulus was allowed to "tweek" his statements and make changes.

 


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I was there when Joran made his statement.

We made a few changes in the concept with regard to factualities instead of observations.

At approximately 14.00 hours Joran signed his statement.
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« Reply #595 on: May 30, 2008, 06:40:35 PM »

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« Reply #596 on: May 30, 2008, 06:42:37 PM »

To Lela mum, I didnt mean to say yellow jacket, I was thinking about what they wear -  also I think mobile phones are the phones that are like in police cars-you cant carry them around. 

Thanks.  You threw me for a loop there...I was looking everywhere trying to find that. LOL
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« Reply #597 on: May 30, 2008, 06:43:44 PM »

check out her "friend" Joran and his "quote":
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Well...looks Like God has moved up Jorans' *Judgement* time....
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« Reply #598 on: May 30, 2008, 06:45:10 PM »

very busy in this thread. i can't keep up with everything.
so this is maybe old news:

Aruban OM says the shoes are NOT of JvdS.

they are of the same type.
but they are ladies shoes. and they were manifactured 3 years ago.
and they are not JvdS size.

http://frontpage.fok.nl/nieuws/93217/-%5Bupd%5D-Jorans-verdwenen-gympen-gevonden?.html

It was ONE shoe, most likely, first of all.  OM are liars, secondly, and thirdly, according to Dario, the shoe is large.  Now, if there are any more lies, take it up with DARIO.  We are NOT as stupid as some would like to think.  Also, how would they know?  They only saw pictures, most likely as well, or they are lying through their teeth.
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Jack I'm with you on this.  I don't believe anything out of the OM office.

Would that not be the same office that Mos is in?  If we are to believe anything...that means they plan on doing nothing with this info...as usual.  Rolling Eyes
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« Reply #599 on: May 30, 2008, 06:46:35 PM »

This just in from the Aruba OM -- "the world are flat" -- now move along, nothing to see here".

Oh wreck....depends time...ROFLMAO!
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