Natalee Case Discussion #755 5/31 - 6/5/08

[Lala'sMom]

This is Treasures on the Bay (not very good shot but it shows you the southeast corner) Homes are on the southwest corner.

Wow, I bet they worry when there is a hurricane in the Atlantic. Thanks for the photo.  Did you say if that was near Miami Beach?  I have forgotten? Sorry.

[MumInOhio]

OK..here goes another question....what is the Red Party on Aruba?  Would that be the political party AVP?  Anyone?

Lala's...I believe they are two separate parties...will check!!

[Bearlyhere]

The school that several Mansurs, including Jossy, went to that was also attended by Jug and Jar Twitty was Tennessee Military Institute (TMI). None of them attended during the same years.

http://websleuths.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-28344

Still trying to find the word daughter.

[Maggie]

this is a google... shows what you are looking for
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=7501%20Treasure%20Dr.+North%20Bay%20Village+FL+33141&t=k

[Lala'sMom]

there appears to be videos here, but I am too slow to watch them today, and then I couldn't post them anyway!  LOL

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Tommy+Pooch+miami+pic

Nope that hairline is receding, but not like Paulus....and he wears a ring on his left hand...did we see one in the casino video? 

[Lala'sMom]

Looks like his name is Puccio...and he appears to be kind of short.

[Bearlyhere]

The school that several Mansurs, including Jossy, went to that was also attended by Jug and Jar Twitty was Tennessee Military Institute (TMI). None of them attended during the same years.

http://websleuths.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-28344

Still trying to find the word daughter.

http://www.castleheights.com/

Jug Twitty '74
Farid Mansur '82
Serge Mansur '83
Luis Mansur '84
Eduardo Mansur '86
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Aruba - Matutino Diario - Diabierna - Staff y Personal

Director of the Diario, Jossy Mansur
Director in Absentia: Luis Mansur, Jossy Mansur, Eduardo Mansur, and Damilice Mansur.

[MumInOhio]

Political parties...

Political parties and leaders: Aliansa/Aruban Social Movement or MSA [Robert WEVER]; Aruban Liberal Organization or OLA [Glenbert CROES]; Aruban Patriotic Movement or MPA [Monica ARENDS-KOCK]; Aruban Patriotic Party or PPA [Benny NISBET]; Aruban People's Party or AVP [Mike EMAN]; People's Electoral Movement Party or MEP [Nelson O. ODUBER]; Real Democracy or PDR [Andin BIKKER]; RED [Rudy LAMPE]; Workers Political Platform or PTT [Gregorio WOLFF] 

[MumInOhio]

I can't get into the Registry to get Damilice's dob from Hooters. Keeps telling me error when I put in Hooters. She is around 35 though.

[Lala'sMom]

this is a google... shows what you are looking for
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=7501%20Treasure%20Dr.+North%20Bay%20Village+FL+33141&t=k

Thank you, thank you!  I found exactly what I was looking for on this map. 

[Maggie]

[Lala'sMom]

Political parties...

Political parties and leaders: Aliansa/Aruban Social Movement or MSA [Robert WEVER]; Aruban Liberal Organization or OLA [Glenbert CROES]; Aruban Patriotic Movement or MPA [Monica ARENDS-KOCK]; Aruban Patriotic Party or PPA [Benny NISBET]; Aruban People's Party or AVP [Mike EMAN]; People's Electoral Movement Party or MEP [Nelson O. ODUBER]; Real Democracy or PDR [Andin BIKKER]; RED [Rudy LAMPE]; Workers Political Platform or PTT [Gregorio WOLFF] 

Oh Mum, you are hitting them out of the park today....thanks.

[Rob]

this is a google... shows what you are looking for
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=7501%20Treasure%20Dr.+North%20Bay%20Village+FL+33141&t=k

Thank you, thank you!  I found exactly what I was looking for on this map. 

And what was it you were looking for???

 

[MumInOhio]

Political parties...

Political parties and leaders: Aliansa/Aruban Social Movement or MSA [Robert WEVER]; Aruban Liberal Organization or OLA [Glenbert CROES]; Aruban Patriotic Movement or MPA [Monica ARENDS-KOCK]; Aruban Patriotic Party or PPA [Benny NISBET]; Aruban People's Party or AVP [Mike EMAN]; People's Electoral Movement Party or MEP [Nelson O. ODUBER]; Real Democracy or PDR [Andin BIKKER]; RED [Rudy LAMPE]; Workers Political Platform or PTT [Gregorio WOLFF] 

Oh Mum, you are hitting them out of the park today....thanks.

LOL...now if I could only connect all your dots!

[jackb]

North Bay Village is on one of the islands in the middle of the bay, connected by the Kennedy causeway, about 71st street. zip code 33141. I think it is on Treasure Island. My daughter lived in Treasures on the Bay there while she was attending Med school at Miami. My son just flew down there this morning...any other questions I might be able to help with?

Tommy Pooch lives on an island like you are describing. He was the guy that was at the card table (supposedly) with Joran and the girls and someone (maybe even him) claimed that was him and not Paulus.

Explain this further...pretty please.

some slob surfaced a year later and said that was him at the table and not Paulus. Also said Joran was a terrible card player.

I think Grande had a picture of him, but I don't have the link to that bucket on this puter. Klaas probably has it somewhere. I know Pooch has met Kid Rock cause there is a picture of them together, and I would bet he knows Ernesto from the party scene.
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It is unlikely he had his name on that chair and kept it for him only.
He may have sometimes sat there, but the night in question, I am 98 percent sure it is Palus.  They have put the same photo out altered or at least 3 times that I can see.  As well, their time stamps on front of the photo do not in anyway mean that is the correct time.  It would be strange if only one casino video picture showed that area for the duration of the day.  They will not release anything down there that would clearly implicate any of them.  Why do you think that most of the photos are blurred in strategic points?
With a country that size the Secretary to the Attorney General would possibly wield as much power and influence at the one in this country (US.)  They would know everything that goes on in the island and could easily have damage control over one case.  Jackblue

[Bearlyhere]

I can't get into the Registry to get Damilice's dob from Hooters. Keeps telling me error when I put in Hooters. She is around 35 though.

Her My space says she is 35 and her birthday is 12/11

[jackb]

Political parties...

Political parties and leaders: Aliansa/Aruban Social Movement or MSA [Robert WEVER]; Aruban Liberal Organization or OLA [Glenbert CROES]; Aruban Patriotic Movement or MPA [Monica ARENDS-KOCK]; Aruban Patriotic Party or PPA [Benny NISBET]; Aruban People's Party or AVP [Mike EMAN]; People's Electoral Movement Party or MEP [Nelson O. ODUBER]; Real Democracy or PDR [Andin BIKKER]; RED [Rudy LAMPE]; Workers Political Platform or PTT [Gregorio WOLFF] 

It has been my understanding that Andin Bikker was pulled in and questioned about the NH case during the first part.  He was not arrested, but questioned.  Wonder why?   jackb

[MumInOhio]

I can't get into the Registry to get Damilice's dob from Hooters. Keeps telling me error when I put in Hooters. She is around 35 though.

Her My space says she is 35 and her birthday is 12/11

Thanks Bearly...I have been to the Registry before and never thought to note the year she was born!

[Lala'sMom]

this is a google... shows what you are looking for
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=7501%20Treasure%20Dr.+North%20Bay%20Village+FL+33141&t=k

Thank you, thank you!  I found exactly what I was looking for on this map. 

And what was it you were looking for???

 

Ernesto's apartment...which is actually to the left of the Treasure Island area on West Drive.

[MumInOhio]

Political parties...

Political parties and leaders: Aliansa/Aruban Social Movement or MSA [Robert WEVER]; Aruban Liberal Organization or OLA [Glenbert CROES]; Aruban Patriotic Movement or MPA [Monica ARENDS-KOCK]; Aruban Patriotic Party or PPA [Benny NISBET]; Aruban People's Party or AVP [Mike EMAN]; People's Electoral Movement Party or MEP [Nelson O. ODUBER]; Real Democracy or PDR [Andin BIKKER]; RED [Rudy LAMPE]; Workers Political Platform or PTT [Gregorio WOLFF] 

It has been my understanding that Andin Bikker was pulled in and questioned about the NH case during the first part.  He was not arrested, but questioned.  Wonder why?   jackb

Thanks jackb...I recall you posting that in Shango. A.B. at the same time as GVC, right?