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Author Topic: Lively Case Discussion #518 8/29 - 8/31/2006  (Read 125935 times)
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« on: August 29, 2006, 07:42:27 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2006, 08:14:41 PM »

Did I make it 1st ???
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« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2006, 08:21:11 PM »

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  Looks like it~!!  Smile
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« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2006, 08:21:22 PM »

You did OF.. how are you?
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« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2006, 08:21:24 PM »

Was it this book and did Paulus give it to him?  Laughing  Laughing


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« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2006, 08:22:10 PM »

LOL ...Klaasend... I wish we still had the tickle me tito...
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« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2006, 08:22:39 PM »

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Was it this book and did Paulus give it to him?  Laughing  Laughing





I thought that was Joran's book from the Dutch Publisher...now I'm confused  Wink
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« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2006, 08:24:16 PM »

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 Guess: Dave regarding Joran and the jail books.
 


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August 24, 2005
Dave Holloway On Rita Cosby Regarding Prison Video

Rita: They were saying he was reading a book, looked a little thin, had two cellmates. Looked casual, relaxed. Doesn’t sound things are too bad for him.

Dave: I hope he was reading one of the books I gave him. Maybe he will turn his soul or life over to God and make some right choices. That is what we are asking for is to open himself up to God. Something positive is going to come out of this, there is no doubt about it. Hopefully we will get to the bottom of it and the police and anybody else that has any information will solve this case.
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« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2006, 08:24:17 PM »

I think BUCKEYE got it right on the lasy thread. a Purpose Driven Life.. something like that
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« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2006, 08:24:51 PM »

I also wish you still had the Herman Munster... LOL..
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« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2006, 08:25:13 PM »

Dave brought a Bible and "The Purpose Driven Life" ...

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« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2006, 08:25:38 PM »

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I think BUCKEYE got it right on the lasy thread. a Purpose Driven Life.. something like that


Hey Angie. Thongs good?
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« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2006, 08:26:10 PM »

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I think BUCKEYE got it right on the lasy thread. a Purpose Driven Life.. something like that


Excellent book... but for some reason I thought Dave gave Joran a Bible...
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« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2006, 08:26:29 PM »

Why – what is their involvement and why were they so scared?

Koen – reportedly slept with his parents for months afterwards.  Father appeared for Koen answering questions, then would not allow Koen to be questioned.  Amalin Flannegin resigned from the case b/c of ALE’s refusal to push for questioing Koen.  Koen has had a dramatic weight gain over the last year.

Guido – reportedly peed  his pants when questioned by M. Posner in his office.  Fled Aruba for the NL within 2 weeks of the disappearance, reportedly before the end of the school year, and after getting a new car.  Does the old car come into play in the scenario?

Steve Croes – has had a marked weight gain over the last year.  Hired by CnC’s shortly after being fired from the Tatoo.  Why would Steve give a false Alibi?

Andre – has had a dramatic weight gain since Natalee went missing.  Why hasn’t this young man’s name surfaced sooner?

Satish – has maintained complete silence in this case.  Reportedly seeing ghosts while in KIA.  Was seen in photographs partying with Joran after his release in Sept. from KIA.

Deepak – why did his Father buy the Cyberzone Internet Café? Deepak has kept a low profile since the Dr Phil show.  Reportedly he & Satish slept in their clothes for months for fear of being arrested again.

Geoffrey – why did his family leave Aruba shortly after his arrest & release?

Joran – thought to be the suspect who confessed and was suicidal.  Shango writes that Joran was afraid for his life and biting his tongue in prison.

Carlos – the gardener, who was reluctant to come forward

Michael Posner – Was his return to Aruba the day following Natalee’s disappearance a planned one or did he return early?  Has he paid a substantial portion of Tacopina’s or AHATA’s bill?

Paulus – reportedly flew to Miami before his arrest. Why would a Father fly to Miami when his son is the last one seen with a girl who has disappeared and the main suspect?

The jogger – who basically confirms the gardener’s story.  Why is he still anonymous?

The taxi driver – allegedly was out by the lighthouse picking up a fare that evening.  Still anonymous?

Mystery witness who reportedly called the radio station and then CnC’s crying with remorse claiming he knew where the body was buried in the sand dunes.

Lorenzo
– why is this person so elusive?  Everyone seems to know of him, but no one has information or photos of him (on any of the personal sites like Tickle)

Answers anyone?
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« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2006, 08:27:40 PM »

I might be off on this, but with an existential father (Camus) and Buddist mom, I'm thinking Joran is not worried about God and the here-after.  He's a here and now guy...
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« Reply #15 on: August 29, 2006, 08:28:21 PM »

Some posts by Aruban Maria today on RWV re Arrow   Van der Straaten. (She is kind of a "stream of consciousness" poster so the context is just what it is).

-minister of justice implying some pretty heavy stuff about van de straten.

-bizarre the police union, wanting to keep this case unsolved, wonder why?

-wonder who was van de straten talking to?

-policecode they protect each others asses.

-the rotten apples should be eliminated, the truth must come out.
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« Reply #16 on: August 29, 2006, 08:29:10 PM »

I though maybe Dave would make him sweat a little with this book....

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« Reply #17 on: August 29, 2006, 08:29:28 PM »

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I also wish you still had the Herman Munster... LOL..


Only have this side by side that I can find right away, lol

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« Reply #18 on: August 29, 2006, 08:30:51 PM »

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I think BUCKEYE got it right on the lasy thread. a Purpose Driven Life.. something like that


Hey Angie. Thongs good?


 MOM.. I am wiped out.. and thinking of really quitting my job since they have to be assholes .. store is a mess I hear.. and its a shame I cant be in peace for an important occasion  in my life.  I was bugged every day... and Im sick of it.
 SOrry for the rant people.. Sad
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« Reply #19 on: August 29, 2006, 08:32:03 PM »

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I think BUCKEYE got it right on the lasy thread. a Purpose Driven Life.. something like that


Excellent book... but for some reason I thought Dave gave Joran a Bible...


 It may have been both??  I forget..  Sad
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