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« Reply #1060 on: August 01, 2008, 08:37:49 PM »

Arubans=Indians

So you say the Arawaks are the Arubans?  That makes the most sense, of course, there are those that will disagree.  Sorry I am asking the same question over and over.  I just want to be certain I understand your thinking here.

Indians=Arubans

I think I can safely say you mean Arawaks are the Arubans are the Indians.  I didn't know how much I missed you until today.   

Now, one more question.  Do you think the term arawaks every changes in Shango's postings?  Is the term arawaks always, in your opinion, the same regardless of the context of the post? TIA


(Stop rolling your eyes at me...I have a reason for asking this.)
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« Reply #1061 on: August 01, 2008, 09:26:46 PM »

Arubans=Indians

So you say the Arawaks are the Arubans?  That makes the most sense, of course, there are those that will disagree.  Sorry I am asking the same question over and over.  I just want to be certain I understand your thinking here.

Indians=Arubans

I think I can safely say you mean Arawaks are the Arubans are the Indians.  I didn't know how much I missed you until today.   

Now, one more question.  Do you think the term arawaks every changes in Shango's postings?  Is the term arawaks always, in your opinion, the same regardless of the context of the post? TIA


(Stop rolling your eyes at me...I have a reason for asking this.)

never said Arubans=Arawaks    or     Arawaks=Indians

did say Arubans=Indians

If Arawaks did = Arubans....who are the Indians???!!!

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« Reply #1062 on: August 02, 2008, 12:47:57 AM »

I have been reading my notes/old posts and found some interesting things.  I will make several posts as it is lengthy.  I am not sure who/where I got this ... just saved it, never expecting to dig it out and post it.  Sorry about no reference.


The Players --
Simian= a hotel owner (a Mansur relative, not Jossy) remember "the gardener"?
He was one of the (false) "singing cards".

46 sacrifices=46 hotels in Aruba
(the hotels have freely allowed the Babylonians to use their facilities)

46th Spirit= (and a Babylonian God by association --Simian/Mansuer) this really pissed him off btw

46th sacrifice=Simian's hotel
re:Simian's handicap, (his Hotel is near golf course also has a tennis club can you say
"Le Cabana?")

Shango=FBI playing cat and mouse with Mansur

The 5th suspect=PVS

The 1st boyfriend (with the motive)=The 5th suspect (per Simian)
Both Paul (1st bf) and Joran (2nd bf) were together in Casino w/ Nat May 29
it's on tape. The 5th suspect did not deny the affair when questioned on June 17th.
Who has affairs? answer: it's a term for Married ppl. cheating
Paulus was "let go" from his duties on or about June 17th right after the first time he was picked up and questioned (Paulus with Natalee on a Casino security tape. Knowing her cannot be denied by Paulus) Paulus is the one with the "air tight alibi" but he's on tape and can't deny he'd met Natalee if the Package from the Hauge (EVIDENCE) was turned over....it wasn't.
They wanted Hotel security tapes to expose Paul, his lordship said: "no"
"Friends cover for friends" (per Simian)= Alabama friends know Paulus was with Natalee
as well as friends of Paulus having supplied his "air tight" alibi.
(Alibi known by Aruban LE to be false)

The Elders, The Babylonians (procurers), The Lions and the Arawaks.
It's really an "old boys club".

But now the sacrifice is a goat= yeah, an old goat!

Who else plays in the band? A bablylonian? =(Paulus is a "Babylonian Musician"with "Babylonian
offspring" he plays a brass horn) FOLLOW THE MUSIC
Paulus' friends need to be pinched (Jaime was one) Jaime knows the Wyndham pool man.

Natalee was handed off to two other Babylonians while the Lamb ran bleating.
(Joran left her in the Lion's Den)

Package from the Hague=Those security tapes, Tapes from TWO Casino Hotels.

Babylon=the palm beach hotel strip area and the seedy area behind the strip.

Babilonians=Joran and the "pimps" as well as some ELDERS who work and play in Babylon.
(Babylonian Gods pay well)

Babilonian Gods=Organized Crime

Small Houses of Babylon= individual ho houses behind the strip

(Native Flys, the willing South American visitors are working in those)
Great Houses of Babylon=Those High Rolling Lions prefer Virgin Marys to Used Marys.

One Straight path to the House of Rave=JE Irausquin Blvd is a straight path between
C 'N C's (the Fly trap) and the Hotel Strip (Babylon)
while of gold bricks the road is not paved= The back way into the LION'S DEN
IS AN ALLEY behind the Hotels. The Lion's den is at the other end of the MAZE.

The MAZE is figurative. The MAZE is not a place, it is a PROCESS. It is a pipeline.
Don't confuse "rave" with a party. Rave is defined "to rage or Roar": LIONS
Paulus' alibi is that others spent the night at his house (What did Jaime declare?)

Sumarians= The Security Guards were Paulus' 2 singing cards which were played
The Security guards know of and resent what goes on at the hotels, but they kept quiet about that and lied about what they heard in jail, so I guess they were paid off
before they could sing and lead THE COWBOYS to EDEN.

Babylon Palace=the Wyndham Has a special room for High Rolling Lions.
Think some locals may have their own KEY.
10/01/2005-------DirtyHand=see above

Arawaks=Aruban LE (They hold a "singing card", VDS, but their hands are dirty too)
Arawaks partake of Babylonian fruits themselves and therefore their own teepees could fall.

Indians= Regular ,helpful Aruban citizens who are unaware of Babylon activities

Fallen Elder=PVDS (all of the Elders are married males)

Sacrifice/Lambdersloot =Joran covering for Paulus

Will the Elder sing for Babylon or for his son?= (not implicate himself plus spill what he knows about the "pimps" and other Elder's activities) or will he admit to it to save his son. He can do either, but he chose to keep what he knew to himself. There was no reason to hold Joran to trial. All knew that he would be freed and Paulus to keep his secret. Do not rely on false confessions and audio tapes. All are covering for the Gods of Babylon of whom they are very afraid.

Elder friends cover for each other. All are married, many teepees will fall.

(Babylonia's Gods pay well). No, Deepak doesn't need any money.

His Lordship = Michael Posner

Arawak King =The King of Babylon Palace, I mean The Wyndham president.
He has Aruban LE (The Arawaks) by the gonads.
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Wyndham recently sold BTW; I think Rivero is getting out of Dodge.)
Much of his info. (pictues at gatherings) )has been erased from the net.
Date of Jossy's article about an encounter with him and his Atlantis Hotel owner buddy
in an online archive of Diario WAS CHANGED. It was changed to reflect that meeting was
after the Atlantis search, when in fact it was before. FBI has their eye on Rivero,
friend and financer of Atlantis Hotel owner. WRONG HOTEL Searched by Crimson Monkey who
proceeded to gum up the works, though I'll admit that Atlantis is indeed an "old hotel".
Paulus is being protected because he has the goods on Elders great and small.
Many teepees would fall.
Babylon must be preserved!
Girls drugged at C'NC's and delivered to High Rolling Lions in the Greater Houses of Babylon=
Many American Corporates withdrawing their franchises=NO WAMPUM, MANY MOONS
Dirty Hand walked in the small houses of Babylon as well as all houses and with the Elder
.....and with all of the Elders. Dirty Hand knows that the girl walked with an Elder as well.
The first pushed domino in the chain would cause all the rest to crash down.
Girl knew the first domino and learned his activities the hard way. She could identify him.
She came to now and then, they said.
Dirty Hand keeps his eye on the ho houses but doesn't partake. He has caught Paulus with his
pants down in a house of Babylon in the past. Dirtyhand knows Paulus' extracurricular activities
and that of the other Elders and "the pimps". The teepees will surely fall when their wives find out OH YEAH!
Lots of crushed teepees! (Arawaks live in teepees too!) If Babylon Palace EVIDENCE
(married Elders and others on surveilance tapes) cause Babylon Palace to fall,
there will be a whole domino effect of crushed teepees!
Simian said:"I ponder THE EVIDENCE of sex and drugs with the father" repeat: EVIDENCE
Joran (literally) bit his tongue bloody to avoid testifying against Paul when Paul was brought in.
Joran refused to go to the court. (he ultimately was not made to go) that's online.
The dice throwers=Lions and other Players at the Casablanca (the "white house") Casino
Dicemen = The Casablanca Dealers They saw Natalee there, it's all written down
The fly=NH and others who venture into C 'N C's (the "fly trap with honey laden notes")
More than one house of music= C 'N C's; Wyndham as well. Wyndham has a "music house" too.
Shivas=they were the "Gods" of brothers (Kalpoes) They were following them to make sure that
they stuck to the lie and didn't sing. When released, they were "never alone".
The Elders=They play in the small houses of Babylon too.
The maze=the process that leads tourist girls from the Fly trap to a Lion's Den in Babylon
The lions=Partakers of Babylon's goods and services
Only David left the Lion's Den alive= Dave has unknowingly visited Babylon while searching Found animal carcus
ThreadSurfers = NH Forums addictees; Online researchers (Googlers)
Cowboys = Texas Equusearch, specifically. (Aruban LE won't open the maze for the Cowboys
unless the cowboys refuse the peace pipe) of course not, the Wyndham was one of their
sponsors, that was the "peace pipe". Equusearch was staying at the Wyndham.
(I'm sure that all the proffered rooms, not just Wyndham's, had "singing beetles")
Messengers = Paid informants from inside Babylon
Eden =Where Natalee was first hidden. Room adjacent to rear exit/entry of Lion's Den,
accessable by hole underground. There is still DNA in the Lion's Den.
The "stupid Cowboys with Arawak guides" were kept far from Eden.
The singing cards sang the right tunes and the key remained hidden.
She is still on the premises, now buried at the top of a mound near the pool locker.
The poolman knows this. It is a mound that was created by intallation of a utility
near the newer addition. Near the spa addition, I believe. Near Cafe' Baci (Roman
themed resturaunt) (see Roman money) These are all lobby level which is actually
below the first floor level.

The Gods are talking
and they say that
Paulus Van Der Sloot killed Natalee Holloway
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« Reply #1063 on: August 02, 2008, 12:56:40 AM »

OK, here is the rest of it:

Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 9:59 pm
DirtyHand can bring down all houses
(seedy little ho houses for his Arawak men and Hotel Casino perks for Lions)
He walks in all circles
consort to all, except for the gods
(He does not let on to the Hotel owners that he knows what goes on at their establishments)
He knows the sacrifice is not responsible
(He knows Joran handed Natalee off)
Joran's section of the maze [his work place] stops at the Lion's den.
The dice throwers know the maze of the rave
(do not confuse this RAVE with a party, formal def of rave=rage &roar= Lions)
and the fly that entered the trap
Virgin Marys for picky high rollers who don't want used ones are drugged
at CNC's fly trap which is the beginning of the maze.
DirtyHand is the key
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On 6-23 MARIAINE CROES said "There is a reasonable suspicion that (Paulus van der Sloot) knows something and is involved in the disappearance." In a statement, Croes called Paulus van der Sloot the fifth suspect in the disappearance of NATALEE.
Now read what Simian had to say about the 5th:
Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 4:56 pm
The 5th suspect has an alibi so strong that he has everybody baffled.
Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:00 pm
The 5th suspect was the boyfriend from earlier in the week.
Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:03 pm
The party-goers said the 5th one was with them. He was the host. How could he have left?
Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:09 pm
A scorned lover needs a motive? Drives some people to some crazy deeds.
Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:13 pm
A jealous boyfriend was at home with some friends. He couldn’t have done it. Sometimes friends will cover for each other.
Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:16 pm
He had to be let go
Paulus' duties were suspended on or about 6/17/05.
He had been brought in for questioning that day
Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:22 pm
This is not my theory. This is for real.
Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:26 pm
The alibi story is the almost the latest.
The latest is that there’s a gap in the time-line for the boys.
It is true that one of them tried to off himself.
Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:29 pm
I did not say an ex. Do you people read? I not into repeating myself.
Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:41 pm
Simian Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
June 22nd, 2005 at 5:40 pm
Simian Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
June 22nd, 2005 at 5:38 pm
Checkme…check this…and please recheck:
Girl comes to Aruba. Meets cool and crazy guy in C@$ino. Goes out with him. He declares that to be the case. Can’t deny it. It’s on tape. (Aug. 10, 2005)
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Simian Says: June 24th, 2005 at 6:06 pm
I ponder the evidence of sex and drugs with the father. It was to hard for her and she could not handle the pressure. I am done. I am leaving now…..
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« Reply #1064 on: August 02, 2008, 03:18:08 AM »

Simian Says: June 28th, 2005 at 2:18 am
YOU'RE BANNED the poetry. The Simian is a frenchman. Blue blood if you should know.


Shango Says: June 28th, 2005 at 2:59 am
The Simian Doppleganger is upset because the arawak nation is hiding the truth from the cowboys
DirtyHand knows
Simian knows
The Simian stated for 2 days, the key would come from the hague the next day
Shango said no two times
Is Simian a DirtyHand too
Has the Simian played with the lions
in the houses of ill-repute and poison notes
where the innocent flies are lured?
Has the Simian, primate that he is, fed with the other animals?
Back ye fetid mongrel, as the 46th are you; delegate of the 7th level of inferno,
not birthed, but spewed from the dark chasm of a nightmare!


This is beginning to be clearer all the time.  "played" as in music.   Frenchman as in the name.  Wowie! Zowie! Batman!!


Thanks Lala's and 2NJSons...clearer to me as well....keep it simple, after all Shango and Simian were posting on the FP.
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« Reply #1065 on: August 02, 2008, 03:23:04 AM »

Simian Says: June 24th, 2005 at 2:50 pm
This is bad. Really bad…He (fifth) has a history of making himself be something he is not.

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 10:01 pm
Arawaks often go to play (THE "GAME") in small houses of Babylon with the offspring of the Elders (who "play in the maze")


Even if you play cards in the house of babylon as an arawak, you still have DirtyHand


That depends on who the "arawaks" are. LOL  Gamblers?  ALE?  Arubans? 


Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:42 pm
Arawaks hold singing card from babylon (they were in jail)
There is also a trio. One Babylonian. 2 Shivas.
Arawaks can’t let babylonian Card (DirtyHand) sing because hand holding it dirty too.
Many teepees fall. No Wampum.
(DirtyHand is kept hidden-a witness, not a suspect.....can break alibi)


Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 10:01 pm
Arawaks often go to play in small houses of Babylon with the offspring of the Elders (pimps, forbidden fruits)


Arawaks=ALE

Arawaks hold singing card from babylon (they were in jail)
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« Reply #1066 on: August 02, 2008, 03:31:09 AM »

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 8:27 pm
DirtyHand and the fallen judge may not be crucified

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:43 pm
The fallen judge agreed to sing because he can hum any tune
He needs to sing for his son, or see the end of his babylonian offspring (are these 2 different people? is one DirtyHand?)


Cololmbo
Are you saying that the "son" and the "babylonian offspring" are two different people?  As in  Lorenzo and Joran?


Lala’s…one of the few times I have been right decoding COLUMBO it was about Lorenzo. I thought he was one of the singing cards?

Have often thought this was the legal checkmate – Paulus, Lorenzo and Joran – they don’t have to testify against each other.
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« Reply #1067 on: August 02, 2008, 03:42:35 AM »

Hi Chata..Nice to see you again…Thanks for posting these.

Shango=FBI playing cat and mouse with Mansur


Ahhh!….This ties together some research and theories of different Monkeys! Can you say ‘witness protection program’, throw in a gambler or two and Florida. You know who you are and you also know my thoughts on this. Needless to say, I can’t elaborate any further! Probably said too much already…



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« Reply #1068 on: August 02, 2008, 07:03:23 AM »

These are the posts found on Ian's Blog some time later.  Given all the info that is known now about this case I find much of it extremely interesting.  This Shango sounds more like Merian to me. My comments in red.

posted 8-23-05

Shango Said:
11:22 am

The Lamb shall leave the pen in a fortnight Joran was clearly the Lamb and he didn't have much time left to spend in jail by August 23rd.

Shiva was seen at the Lion’s Den. He tried to camoflauge into the herd. Deepak was caught on camera by FOX trying to get into Carlos and Charlies again.

DirtyHand had still holds the Key, but has fled the Arawak Island. Jan van der Straten had left  Aruba for Bonaire. I think he was gone by now. Of course that blows the Deutekom theory if Dirty Hand really was Straten

The Cowboys are riding in circles but cannot find the truth. They are blinded by the lights
of the messengers. Too much reading of blogs causing much confusion as to what was evidence and what wasn't.

Non-Virgin Mary and her flock Rolled for many days, finding comfort in the Monkey Den.
Enjoying a Baccanalia Dance in the Ampitheatre for the Lion’s pleasure to be chosen later.  The kids partied the whole time they were there.  They didn't deny this...it is on record.

The False Messenger deceives the anguished Cowgirl with Osteo scraps. I think this is a refernce to Jossy and Beth. MOO


Shango Said:
2:50 pm

Head CowGirl’s mind is poisoned by the Sumarian Messenger. Another reference to Jossy here. Again my opinion based on things I know now.

Dirty Hand is safe behind the Babylonian Fortress.

The Lamb does not bleat nor does he fear the Cowboys. Joran knows they can't touch him any longer and he will get away with this. Daddy took care of it all.

Mary is not on Arawak Nation. Natalee has been moved.

The Elder is confident of vindication and the slaying of a Lion. Paulus also knows that it is all over. They just have to wait it out. He knows too much and no one wants it told.

2 Shivas can not tell about Eden, if they have no knowledge of it. Kalpoes don't know where they finally put Natalee.  They should have said so and come clean. Their lives would be very different by now...maybe even better. Fools.

The Messengers spin webs.
So much is being said and written about this case on the news and internet that it will be hard to sort out what is truth from specualtion.  Boy!  Is that ever the truth!

Gosh!  I wish Shango would hop back in here and tell me what I got wrong. 


Still catching up…

Lala’s thanks for posting these and your interpretations. I have never seen these!

Not sure if you are aware of the term fortnight or not because of some of our mutual friends…It is a term I used for over 4 decades and now never use, just like “what is for tea”!

It may be a clue as to Shango’s identity?

Fortnight
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The fortnight is a unit of time equivalent to fourteen days. The word derives from the Old English feorwertyne niht, meaning "fourteen nights".[1][2]
Fortnight is a commonly used word in Britain, Ireland and many Commonwealth countries such as India and Australia where many wages, salaries and most social security benefits are paid on a fortnightly basis.[3] The word is rarely used in the United States, but is used regionally in Canada. Payroll systems may use the term biweekly in reference to pay periods every two weeks. The terms fortnightly and biweekly are often mistakenly conflated with semimonthly.

In many languages, there is no single word for a two-week period and the equivalents of "two weeks" or "fourteen days" have to be used. In Spanish, Italian, French and in Portuguese, there are the terms quincena, quindici giorni, quinzaine and quinzena, all meaning "fifteen days". Similarly, in Greek, the term dekapenthimero meaning "fifteen days" is also used. In Arabic the short term "أسبوعان" (two weeks) is commonly used and the longer term "خمسة عشر يوماً" (fifteen days) is used to a lesser extent. In Hebrew the term "שבועיים" (two weeks) is commonly used.
The fortnight is the base unit of time in the humorous FFF System of units.

FFF System

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The Furlong/Firkin/Fortnight (FFF) system is a set of units that uses impractical and outdated measurements. It is a humorous system of units and is not used in practice. These units, notably the microfortnight, are mainly used jokingly in computer science.
Besides having the meaning of "any obscure unit", furlongs per fortnight have also served frequently in the classroom as an example on how to reduce a unit's fraction


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« Reply #1069 on: August 02, 2008, 07:33:57 AM »

Arubans=Indians

So you say the Arawaks are the Arubans?  That makes the most sense, of course, there are those that will disagree.  Sorry I am asking the same question over and over.  I just want to be certain I understand your thinking here.

Indians=Arubans

I think I can safely say you mean Arawaks are the Arubans are the Indians.  I didn't know how much I missed you until today.   

Now, one more question.  Do you think the term arawaks every changes in Shango's postings?  Is the term arawaks always, in your opinion, the same regardless of the context of the post? TIA


(Stop rolling your eyes at me...I have a reason for asking this.)

never said Arubans=Arawaks    or     Arawaks=Indians

did say Arubans=Indians

If Arawaks did = Arubans....who are the Indians???!!!



LOL   I knew what you meant, just teasing you a little.  Now, where were we?  OK, the Indians, such as, cowboys and indians with Indians being the Arubans....etc.  Now who are the arawaks again?    I have forgotten after all this time.   Let's go back to the 5th.  I think I have better luck. 
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« Reply #1070 on: August 02, 2008, 07:41:13 AM »

Hi Chata..Nice to see you again…Thanks for posting these.

Shango=FBI playing cat and mouse with Mansur


Ahhh!….This ties together some research and theories of different Monkeys! Can you say ‘witness protection program’, throw in a gambler or two and Florida. You know who you are and you also know my thoughts on this. Needless to say, I can’t elaborate any further! Probably said too much already…


No you have not gone too far.  I want to talk about the gambler in Florida.  I think he has a role in all this.  Shango loved to reference gambling.   I just wish I could make a few more connections to him and we would be done.  Oh well...



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« Reply #1071 on: August 02, 2008, 07:44:01 AM »

OK, need more coffee...messed up your quote Mum.  sorry.  Be right back.

Thanks for the info on fortnight...oh it does tell me something.  I just can't say those two posts are the original Shango.  Yet, it could have been given to another person to post by the original Shango.  Too early for my mind to be going there today.  I will get into trouble for sure.
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« Reply #1072 on: August 02, 2008, 08:02:20 AM »

Let's examine those last two posts by Shango.  Keep in mind there is no way to know if it was the real Shango.  In fact, it is much more composed than most of his stuff, so I am thinking it was mainly written after watching a lot of television coverage.  There is nothing in there that was not known already at that time.  I am cautious about it being the real Shango for that reason.  The entire two posts are right in line with most of the news coverage on that date and a few weeks before.  Whoever composed it was or had been reading some works that used the term "fortnight" or it was a favorite of theirs.  I have terms that I like to use that are not up to date or often used.  That is coming from someone that could have been a writer in one of my other lives. LOL

Anyway, I am privy to some information that would lead me to that conclusion and which has nothing to do with Shango at all, but another poster that was cryptic also but got little attention.  One of the reasons I tend toward Shango being someone we all know well around here.  I know I don't make much sense, but that is what I think right now...subject to change after Colombo arrives to contradict me. LOL
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« Reply #1073 on: August 02, 2008, 08:55:30 AM »

Hi Chata..Nice to see you again…Thanks for posting these.

Shango=FBI playing cat and mouse with Mansur


Ahhh!….This ties together some research and theories of different Monkeys! Can you say ‘witness protection program’, throw in a gambler or two and Florida. You know who you are and you also know my thoughts on this. Needless to say, I can’t elaborate any further! Probably said too much already…






very interesting......and who assembled this document about "the game?????"
http://www.ca11.uscourts.gov/opinions/ops/200214306.pdf


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« Reply #1074 on: August 02, 2008, 08:56:12 AM »

Chata:

great stuff, btw!
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« Reply #1075 on: August 02, 2008, 09:07:10 AM »

Hi Chata..Nice to see you again…Thanks for posting these.

Shango=FBI playing cat and mouse with Mansur


Ahhh!….This ties together some research and theories of different Monkeys! Can you say ‘witness protection program’, throw in a gambler or two and Florida. You know who you are and you also know my thoughts on this. Needless to say, I can’t elaborate any further! Probably said too much already…


No you have not gone too far.  I want to talk about the gambler in Florida.  I think he has a role in all this.  Shango loved to reference gambling.   I just wish I could make a few more connections to him and we would be done.  Oh well...




Good Morning Lala's and COLOMBO...LOL...I was talking about going to far on my theory about the FBI Roboposters...Big Brother is watching...LOL

Will be back in a little bit...I hope...
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« Reply #1076 on: August 02, 2008, 11:50:49 AM »

Chata
Thanks for posting that stuff again.  It's in the first Shango thread and all throughout the other forum, but I am glad you put it together in one place.  Now if I can just remember where it is when i need it.  Too bad there is nothing else we can do with it but speculate. I do have a question for you....do you really think Paulus is the 5th suspect?  Do you think he was a boyfriend from earlier in the week?

Knowing Simian's identity I have since decided that Simian was leading us to another person.  Merian was indicating that Freddy was involved and that is why Mum and I keep going back to him as the 5th suspect.  I know all about what was being discussed at the time, but Simian knew his cousin was in deep trouble and he also knew that he wasn't the only person involved.  That is why I think Shango was trying to remove Freddy from the equation by going to the gambling information and game playing diversion.  Both of them were fighting each other and not really trying to help the posters.  They were each pointing to different people and circumstances.  Neither of which were beneficial. MOO
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« Reply #1077 on: August 02, 2008, 02:20:30 PM »


did that august shango post originate at Ian's site
or was it reproduced there?

cuz two "shango" posts appeared at the CnC's website
and were removed by admins fairly quickly,
followed by the locking of the thread

someone (???) had been banned at SM
and on that same day a buncha posts w/ SM nics
but not made by SM posters
began appearing at the CnC's site

pretty much all the codetalkers
found the new shango's style contrived/awkward
and decided it was a scam/revenge thing
coming from the banned poster

ie: osteo scraps = bones/bone fragments

there were two other shango posts (in july?)
which were also truly awkward ...
containing references to the red monkey/etc ...
and those were judged to be bogus as well

there were two july posts/two august posts, yes?

not clear re which set of bogus posts
originated at CnC's website, but it did happen

anyone else remember this?   Rolling Eyes

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« Reply #1078 on: August 02, 2008, 02:38:39 PM »

Chata:

Would add to the section of your post posted underneath:

Judge arrested in Aruba case
Fifth suspect in custody after U.S. teen's disappearance

Thursday, June 23, 2005; Posted: 10:01 p.m. EDT (02:01 GMT)

Paul Van Der Sloot was arrested after being questioned by police as a witness over the weekend.

ORANJESTAD, Aruba (CNN) -- An Aruban judge, the father of a 17-year-old suspect in the disappearance of an Alabama teenager, also has been arrested in the case, the island's police commissioner said Thursday.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/06/23/aruba.holloway/index.html


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On 6-23 MARIAINE CROES said "There is a reasonable suspicion that (Paulus van der Sloot) knows something and is involved in the disappearance." In a statement, Croes called Paulus van der Sloot the fifth suspect in the disappearance of NATALEE.
Now read what Simian had to say about the 5th:
Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 4:56 pm
The 5th suspect has an alibi so strong that he has everybody baffled.
Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:00 pm
The 5th suspect was the boyfriend from earlier in the week.
Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:03 pm
The party-goers said the 5th one was with them. He was the host. How could he have left?
Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:09 pm
A scorned lover needs a motive? Drives some people to some crazy deeds.
Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:13 pm
A jealous boyfriend was at home with some friends. He couldn’t have done it. Sometimes friends will cover for each other.
Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:16 pm
He had to be let go
Paulus' duties were suspended on or about 6/17/05.
He had been brought in for questioning that day
Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:22 pm
This is not my theory. This is for real.
Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:26 pm
The alibi story is the almost the latest.
The latest is that there’s a gap in the time-line for the boys.
It is true that one of them tried to off himself.
Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:29 pm
I did not say an ex. Do you people read? I not into repeating myself.
Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:41 pm
Simian Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
June 22nd, 2005 at 5:40 pm
Simian Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
June 22nd, 2005 at 5:38 pm
Checkme…check this…and please recheck:
Girl comes to Aruba. Meets cool and crazy guy in C@$ino. Goes out with him. He declares that to be the case. Can’t deny it. It’s on tape. (Aug. 10, 2005)
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Simian Says: June 24th, 2005 at 6:06 pm
I ponder the evidence of sex and drugs with the father. It was to hard for her and she could not handle the pressure. I am done. I am leaving now…..
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« Reply #1079 on: August 02, 2008, 03:44:34 PM »


did that august shango post originate at Ian's site
or was it reproduced there?

cuz two "shango" posts appeared at the CnC's website
and were removed by admins fairly quickly,
followed by the locking of the thread

someone (???) had been banned at SM
and on that same day a buncha posts w/ SM nics
but not made by SM posters
began appearing at the CnC's site

pretty much all the codetalkers
found the new shango's style contrived/awkward
and decided it was a scam/revenge thing
coming from the banned poster

ie: osteo scraps = bones/bone fragments

there were two other shango posts (in july?)
which were also truly awkward ...
containing references to the red monkey/etc ...
and those were judged to be bogus as well

there were two july posts/two august posts, yes?

not clear re which set of bogus posts
originated at CnC's website, but it did happen

anyone else remember this?   Rolling Eyes



From my understanding they did not originate here.  Now, if my source is not accurate then all bets are off.  Ian's blog is where they were managed to be captured.  That is why we can't compare email addys and IP locations. But then again the person who told me could easily be wrong.
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