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« Reply #1380 on: August 15, 2008, 08:45:39 AM »


COLUMBO'S link took me back to reading the tni.org document. Found this interesting and want to keep it all here for future reference. Plus the business connections bother me…

Hendrick Croes is directly tied to the Mansur families’ business dealings. He and Jossy appear to be the 2 leading political figures on the island, opposite parties. Hendrick’s brother Betico was a political leader of the same party as Jossy. Hendrick Croes is also the Lawyer for the government of Aruba.

A Smugglers' Paradise

The Intercon Financial Bank on Aruba is represented by the law-firm Croes & Wever. One of the partners is former Minister of Justice Hendrik Croes. The firm's trust-company Arulex was implicated in setting up the bank. "Yes, we are involved with that bank," says Croes. "We still handle all their legal affairs, but we don't know anything of their financial accounts." (70)

Hendrik Croes – a brother of the island's legendary leader, the late Betico Croes who guided Aruba to its semi-independent status in the Dutch realm – is one of the leading political figures on the island. He led several election campaigns for the MEP, now in the opposition. The Croes Family has been accused of ties with Cuntrera-Caruana. The Sicilian mafiosi payed for a trip of another brother, Rudy Croes (who succeeded Hendrik as Minister of Justice in a previous MEP government) as party secretary to a meeting of the Socialist International in Turkey. This has not been denied.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3128.460

Reply #467 on: July 28, 2008, 04:58:29 PM » Quisp
   
 Another snip..."The Cuntrera-Caruana clan had links with another Aruban bank: the Interbank. The bank granted a credit to the Cuntrera company "Investeringen Tweehonderd en Tien" for 1.8 million Aruban guilders (approximately one million dollars). Why the Cuntreras who own several investment companies in Venezuela needed the loan is unknown.One could speculate, however, this was a 'loan-back' operation to launder money. An amount of money is deposited cash at a bank and the bank lends the money back: now there is a clean and legitimate source of earnings.                                         
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Jossy Mansur is the owner and chief editor of the biggest newspaper on the island, "Diario". "When I read an article in Diario, I know what will be the next action of the government,"says Hendrik Croes, adding that the Mansurs create a climate of fear and intimidation on Aruba."



Reply #474 on: July 28, 2008, 05:26:34 PM » Pita

I don't know how Hendrik Croes could make a statement about now knowing anything about financial accounts when Arulex, among others, is listed as a corporate body of Intercon Financial Bank. 
Hendrik Croes is a Managing Director of Arulex N.V.

INTERCON FINANCIAL BANK N.V.   
Business address PUNTA BRABO Z/N, ORANJESTAD WEST 
Legal form  LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY 
Name of the company  INTERCON FINANCIAL BANK N.V. 
Statutory seat  ARUBA 
Date of incorporation  8 DECEMBER 1989   

DIRECTORS - AUTHORIZED PERSONS AND CORPORATE BODIES - SUPERVISORY BOARD:   

ARULEX N.V.   
Established at  ARULEX CENTER, PUNTA BRABO Z/N, ORANJESTAD, ARUBA 
Position  MANAGING DIRECTOR 
Since  8 DECEMBER 1989  ****************************************************************
ARULEX N.V.   

Business address PUNTA BRABO Z/N, ORANJESTAD WEST 
Legal form  LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY 
Name of the company  ARULEX N.V. 
Statutory seat  ARUBA 
Date of incorporation  28 MARCH 1973 
Last amendment in the articles  20 JULY 1988       

DIRECTORS - AUTHORIZED PERSONS AND CORPORATE BODIES - SUPERVISORY BOARD:   

CROES, HENDRIK SEFERINO; 
Residing in  SEROE PITA 22, PARADERA, ARUBA 
Born in  ARUBA on 8 JANUARY 1942 
Nationality  DUTCH 
Position  MANAGING DIRECTOR 
Effective  19 SEPTEMBER 1975  Authority  FULL     

TCHONG, PETRUS JOANNES; 
Residing in  BYRONSTRAAT 13, ORANJESTAD, ARUBA 
Born in  ARUBA on 26 DECEMBER 1944 
Nationality  DUTCH  Position  MANAGING DIRECTOR 
Effective  26 OCTOBER 1995 
Authority  FULL     

WEVER, IRIS; 
Residing in  ESMERALDA 37, NOORD, ARUBA 
Born in  THE NETHERLANDS, NIJMEGEN on 8 FEBRUARY 1965 
Nationality  DUTCH 
Position  MANAGING DIRECTOR 
Effective  1 SEPTEMBER 1997 
Authority  FULL     

WEVER-CROES, EVELYN CHRISTINA; 
Residing in  SEROE BLANCO 245, ORANJESTAD, ARUBA 
Born in  ARUBA on 5 DECEMBER 1966 
Nationality  DUTCH 
Position  MANAGING DIRECTOR 
Effective  11 MARCH 2004 
Authority  FULL     

PASSCHIER, DAVID MARTIN; 
Residing in  SEROE BIENTO 15-A, SANTA CRUZ, ARUBA 
Born in  ARUBA on 14 OCTOBER 1973 
Nationality  DUTCH 
Position  MANAGING DIRECTOR  Effective  11 MARCH 2004 
Authority  FULL     
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« Reply #1381 on: August 15, 2008, 09:11:09 AM »

More background on Hendrick...

Hendrik S. Croes (Aruba 1942) Admitted to practice Aruba 1967, Netherlands Antilles 1967 and Supreme Court of the Kingdom of the Netherlands 1967. Educated at Leiden University LL.M. 1967.
Minister of Education and Constitutional Affairs 1973-76, Minister of Justice and Constitutional Affairs 1979-81, Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Preparing Aruba for New Constitutional Status 1984-85 and Minister of Public Health Sept 1985 to Dec 1985 Netherlands Antilles. Minister of Justice Feb 1989 to March 1993 Aruba. Member Kingdom Committee to advise on all aspects of Aruba's independence 1982 and Member Kingdom Committee to advise on the relations with European Union 2004.
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« Reply #1382 on: August 15, 2008, 11:02:27 AM »

Lala’s…Leila and AG…AUA - Another Useless Acronym

Clues on Nativelingo…   

NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 4:54 pm
Natalee’s mother just spotted walking in the renaissance mall. Kid you NOT….

NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 4:56 pm
She’s with a group of people, and looks rather “slow”….decoy?? I can’t imagine that..

NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 4:58 pm
No Idea mwood, I own a store in the mall, and 3 other tenants have called me sofar with the same story…. WTH????

arubagirl on June 11th, 2005 5:00 pm
Oh, you do native? I was just there today.

NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 5:02 pm
Been there for 7 years…….

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2005/06/11/natalee-holloway-comments-post-4/#comments

NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 9:31 pm
Arubagirl….have you ever been to maui?

NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 9:49 pm
Arubagirl…..true….I had the same experiences here and in the US

NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 10:27 pm
Arubagirl…astrid is just 14 years old….. a smart 14 yr old

NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 10:35 pm
Biggy….r u from aua?

Biggy on June 11th, 2005 10:36 pm
Yes but living across the atlantic for 2 years now










FYI...Red met Native Lingo and AG when he was on Aruba...he knows who they are.  NL last name at the time was Croes if I remember correctly and she owned a business on Aruba in the mall.
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« Reply #1383 on: August 15, 2008, 11:10:39 AM »

Bringing this post of mine forward as I still need help...

Reply #949 on: April 25, 2008, 02:59:29 PM » Rob

Caps there are 5 Dirty Hands

Dirty Hand
DirtyHand
Dirty hand
dirty hand
dirtyhand

Shango on June 27th, 2005 9:44 pm
Babalu opened a window looking into babylon on his 12:31 A.M. Post
DirtyHand is alive


Shango on June 27th, 2005 9:48 pm
Babalu knew who dirty hand was at half past 12

Help! I am a little confused, as usual with Shango and his posts. Isn’t he saying here that DirtyHand and dirty hand are the same person? I like Rob always thought there was 5...now I am not so sure.



Shango says there are many dirty hands.  I take that to mean there is more than one...would that not fit what Shango said was a window also?  van der Straten, Duetekom...etc.  Shango meant one in particular in certain posts, but he called one an Arawak Dirty Hand and also said dirty hand is not an Arawak.  So by that, I am thinking there is more than one.

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 6:19 pm
There are many DirtyHands among the Arawak, and so it has been for centuries…

Shango Says:June 26th, 2005 at 9:19 pm
DirtyHand is not an Arawak
The singing card can not be played
The cowboys would circle the wagons
The arawaks are preparing the sacrifice
light the fires
the gods are talking

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 5:32 pm
The sacrifice is the correct food to appease the gods, arawaks, and cowboys
but the foundations of the house of babylon will shake
even harder if Arawak Dirty Hand is revealed


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« Reply #1384 on: August 15, 2008, 04:27:01 PM »

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:42 pm
Arawaks hold singing card from babylon
There is also a trio. One Babylonian. 2 Shivas.
Arawaks can’t let babylonian Card (DirtyHand) sing because hand holding it dirty too.
Many teepees fall. No Wampum. (Arawaks worried about teepees)

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 10:01 pm
Arawaks often go to play in small houses of Babylon with the offspring of the Elders

------->
Babalú Says: June 27th, 2005 at 12:30 am
Concerned: No, I guess he is head of some local official corps (ARAWAK!). He is the guy that knows everything and that has been in the house of Babylonians NOT seeking pleasure for himself, so Shango says. So maybe he went to search for Natalee (TO PLAY!) and he is the chief of Polis.
 
The Arawaks want the truth to come out
As long as DirtyHand is not found

Gods of the cowboys know there was a game in the great house,
and so DirtyHand was discovered
http://www.ca11.uscourts.gov/opinions/ops/200214306.pdf
(pg 4: the "game")

DirtyHand is not a child of Babylon
He holds the real key (key to what? the car or the house? the third act?)
The Arawaks fear his exposure

Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 11:43 pm
Mary rolled into the maze
to play with lions
but it was not a game
the lamb ran bleating (they "play" in the maze-but this was not a "game")

Shango Says: June 28th, 2005 at 12:23 am
Follow the notes
to the poison house (DirtyHand holds the real key)
where the children of the babylonians (who play in the maze)
and the arawak nation (Arawaks!)
meet, under cover of delusion. (DirtyHand is the link!)
In the maze
the lions which play
shall be found.
The gamblers also took note.

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« Reply #1385 on: August 15, 2008, 04:29:45 PM »

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:42 pm
Arawaks hold singing card from babylon
There is also a trio. One Babylonian. 2 Shivas.
Arawaks can’t let babylonian Card (DirtyHand) sing because hand holding it dirty too.
Many teepees fall. No Wampum. (Arawaks worried about teepees)

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 10:01 pm
Arawaks often go to play in small houses of Babylon with the offspring of the Elders

------->
Babalú Says: June 27th, 2005 at 12:30 am
Concerned: No, I guess he is head of some local official corps (ARAWAK!). He is the guy that knows everything and that has been in the house of Babylonians NOT seeking pleasure for himself, so Shango says. So maybe he went to search for Natalee (TO PLAY!) and he is the chief of Polis.
 
The Arawaks want the truth to come out
As long as DirtyHand is not found

Gods of the cowboys know there was a game in the great house,
and so DirtyHand was discovered
http://www.ca11.uscourts.gov/opinions/ops/200214306.pdf
(pg 4: the "game")

DirtyHand is not a child of Babylon
He holds the real key (key to what? the car or the house? the third act?)
The Arawaks fear his exposure

Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 11:43 pm
Mary rolled into the maze
to play with lions
but it was not a game
the lamb ran bleating (they "play" in the maze-but this was not a "game")

Shango Says: June 28th, 2005 at 12:23 am
Follow the notes
to the poison house (DirtyHand holds the real key)
where the children of the babylonians (who play in the maze)
and the arawak nation (Arawaks!)
meet, under cover of delusion. (DirtyHand is the link!)
In the maze
the lions which play
shall be found.
The gamblers also took note.




Arawak Dirty Hand=Arawaks "playing" in the maze

the fifth suspect has a history of making himself out to be something he is not.....an Arawak! (No wonder he played the babylonian card!)
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« Reply #1386 on: August 15, 2008, 04:41:24 PM »

Dirty Hand=singing card=5th suspect???? 

Are they one and the same?
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« Reply #1387 on: August 15, 2008, 08:30:20 PM »

Dirty Hand=singing card=5th suspect???? 

Are they one and the same?


DirtyHand=singing card (babylonian, not Arawak...links young babylonians & Arawaks)

Arawak Dirty Hand (<many> "Arawaks often go to play.....")

fifth suspect (a lowly minion) has a history of making himself something he's not-an Arawak! a 'fallen judge'
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« Reply #1388 on: August 15, 2008, 10:12:09 PM »

Why would the singing card and Dirty Hand be the same person?   



Simian Says: June 26th, 2005 at 2:58 pm
The music man’s song was not on the bill.

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:09 pm
Simian, who else plays in the orchestra? A Babylonian….

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:10 pm
Simian, older PVDS had one ot two cards up his sleeve. They have been played, and lost. Will one of the cards sing?

And the Arawaks keep their singing card hidden as well
The fallen judge and the singing card are of the same hand, but it is dangerous for the Arawaks to play it, because everyone would hear, including the cowboys


Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:48 pm
The card of babylon was already played
if it sings, DirtyHand will bring down the Royal House on top of the Arawak Nation

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 10:53 pm
DirtyHand is the key
He walks with the elders
He walks in all houses
And he walked with the fallen elder
he was the hidden card that was played
now if he sings, babylon will fall on the arawak nation

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 6:13 pm
His lordship did not bring the key, it does not exist.
doors to eden remain closed.
The arawaks hold the singing cards. They have the babylonian and 2 shivas. But the other card is dirty.
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« Reply #1389 on: August 15, 2008, 10:16:16 PM »

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:10 pm
Simian, older PVDS had one ot two cards up his sleeve. They have been played, and lost. Will one of the cards sing?

he (DirtyHand) was the hidden card (one of two) that was played (by PVDS)
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« Reply #1390 on: August 16, 2008, 09:09:47 AM »

Bringing this post of mine forward as I still need help...

Reply #949 on: April 25, 2008, 02:59:29 PM » Rob

Caps there are 5 Dirty Hands

Dirty Hand
DirtyHand
Dirty hand
dirty hand
dirtyhand

Shango on June 27th, 2005 9:44 pm
Babalu opened a window looking into babylon on his 12:31 A.M. Post
DirtyHand is alive


Shango on June 27th, 2005 9:48 pm
Babalu knew who dirty hand was at half past 12

Help! I am a little confused, as usual with Shango and his posts. Isn’t he saying here that DirtyHand and dirty hand are the same person? I like Rob always thought there was 5...now I am not so sure.



Shango says there are many dirty hands.  I take that to mean there is more than one...would that not fit what Shango said was a window also?  van der Straten, Duetekom...etc.  Shango meant one in particular in certain posts, but he called one an Arawak Dirty Hand and also said dirty hand is not an Arawak.  So by that, I am thinking there is more than one.

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 6:19 pm
There are many DirtyHands among the Arawak, and so it has been for centuries…

Shango Says:June 26th, 2005 at 9:19 pm
DirtyHand is not an Arawak
The singing card can not be played
The cowboys would circle the wagons
The arawaks are preparing the sacrifice
light the fires
the gods are talking

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 5:32 pm
The sacrifice is the correct food to appease the gods, arawaks, and cowboys
but the foundations of the house of babylon will shake
even harder if Arawak Dirty Hand is revealed







Babalú on June 27th, 2005 12:30 am
Concerned
No, I guess he is head of some local official corps. He is the guy that knows everything and that has been in the house of Babylonians NOT seeking pleasure for himself, so Shango says. So maybe he went to search for Natalee and he is the chief of Polis.

Shango on June 27th, 2005 9:44 pm
Babalu opened a window looking into babylon on his 12:31 A.M. Post
DirtyHand is alive


Shango on June 27th, 2005 9:48 pm
Babalu knew who dirty hand was at half past 12

Lala’s…Baby steps…So Babalu opened the window on DirtyHand and knew who dirty hand was in the same post? Thanks..
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« Reply #1391 on: August 16, 2008, 11:06:36 AM »

Lala’s…Leila and AG…AUA - Another Useless Acronym

Clues on Nativelingo…   

NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 4:54 pm
Natalee’s mother just spotted walking in the renaissance mall. Kid you NOT….

NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 4:56 pm
She’s with a group of people, and looks rather “slow”….decoy?? I can’t imagine that..

NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 4:58 pm
No Idea mwood, I own a store in the mall, and 3 other tenants have called me sofar with the same story…. WTH????

arubagirl on June 11th, 2005 5:00 pm
Oh, you do native? I was just there today.

NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 5:02 pm
Been there for 7 years…….

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2005/06/11/natalee-holloway-comments-post-4/#comments

NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 9:31 pm
Arubagirl….have you ever been to maui?

NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 9:49 pm
Arubagirl…..true….I had the same experiences here and in the US

NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 10:27 pm
Arubagirl…astrid is just 14 years old….. a smart 14 yr old

NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 10:35 pm
Biggy….r u from aua?

Biggy on June 11th, 2005 10:36 pm
Yes but living across the atlantic for 2 years now










FYI...Red met Native Lingo and AG when he was on Aruba...he knows who they are.  NL last name at the time was Croes if I remember correctly and she owned a business on Aruba in the mall.

When I read the following, it reminded me of Charles Croes' post on the aruba.com message board....I just don't have that handy, nor do I remember the date, but believe it was soon after Natalee's family & friends arrived.

NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 11:42 am
Leila, I agree, but looking at the MAGNITUDE and far-reaching implications of this case, I think it will affect the father…..

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« Reply #1392 on: August 16, 2008, 02:31:07 PM »

Lala’s…Leila and AG…AUA - Another Useless Acronym

Clues on Nativelingo…   

NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 4:54 pm
Natalee’s mother just spotted walking in the renaissance mall. Kid you NOT….

NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 4:56 pm
She’s with a group of people, and looks rather “slow”….decoy?? I can’t imagine that..

NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 4:58 pm
No Idea mwood, I own a store in the mall, and 3 other tenants have called me sofar with the same story…. WTH????

arubagirl on June 11th, 2005 5:00 pm
Oh, you do native? I was just there today.

NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 5:02 pm
Been there for 7 years…….

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2005/06/11/natalee-holloway-comments-post-4/#comments

NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 9:31 pm
Arubagirl….have you ever been to maui?

NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 9:49 pm
Arubagirl…..true….I had the same experiences here and in the US

NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 10:27 pm
Arubagirl…astrid is just 14 years old….. a smart 14 yr old

NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 10:35 pm
Biggy….r u from aua?

Biggy on June 11th, 2005 10:36 pm
Yes but living across the atlantic for 2 years now










FYI...Red met Native Lingo and AG when he was on Aruba...he knows who they are.  NL last name at the time was Croes if I remember correctly and she owned a business on Aruba in the mall.

When I read the following, it reminded me of Charles Croes' post on the aruba.com message board....I just don't have that handy, nor do I remember the date, but believe it was soon after Natalee's family & friends arrived.

NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 11:42 am
Leila, I agree, but looking at the MAGNITUDE and far-reaching implications of this case, I think it will affect the father…..




Just saw it yesterday, but of course couldn’t find it…Found it on Fok…Look at the date????

----------------------------------------------------------------------------CHARLES CROES - WHAT HAPPENED?

http://bb.visitaruba.com/showthread.php?p=18418          June 2, 2005

Author: Charles (—.setardsl.aw) Date: 06-02-05 09:01

There are issues in this case that can go beyond the obvious in their implications. It will take time for all the information regarding this lovely child to come out. Some of it will be hard to handle and some of it will be expected. With regards to the family of this missing child, my prayers are with you. I was with them on the first night they arrived to ARuba (looking for their daughter) from midnight until 5:30 AM and have kept in touch. In my opinion, this issue has far reaching implications for all those involved. I wish all of us strength

charles croes aruba
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« Reply #1393 on: August 16, 2008, 02:39:30 PM »

Lala’s…Leila and AG…AUA - Another Useless Acronym

Clues on Nativelingo…   

NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 4:54 pm
Natalee’s mother just spotted walking in the renaissance mall. Kid you NOT….

NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 4:56 pm
She’s with a group of people, and looks rather “slow”….decoy?? I can’t imagine that..

NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 4:58 pm
No Idea mwood, I own a store in the mall, and 3 other tenants have called me sofar with the same story…. WTH????

arubagirl on June 11th, 2005 5:00 pm
Oh, you do native? I was just there today.

NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 5:02 pm
Been there for 7 years…….

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2005/06/11/natalee-holloway-comments-post-4/#comments

NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 9:31 pm
Arubagirl….have you ever been to maui?

NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 9:49 pm
Arubagirl…..true….I had the same experiences here and in the US

NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 10:27 pm
Arubagirl…astrid is just 14 years old….. a smart 14 yr old

NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 10:35 pm
Biggy….r u from aua?

Biggy on June 11th, 2005 10:36 pm
Yes but living across the atlantic for 2 years now










FYI...Red met Native Lingo and AG when he was on Aruba...he knows who they are.  NL last name at the time was Croes if I remember correctly and she owned a business on Aruba in the mall.

When I read the following, it reminded me of Charles Croes' post on the aruba.com message board....I just don't have that handy, nor do I remember the date, but believe it was soon after Natalee's family & friends arrived.

NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 11:42 am
Leila, I agree, but looking at the MAGNITUDE and far-reaching implications of this case, I think it will affect the father…..




Just saw it yesterday, but of course couldn’t find it…Found it on Fok…Look at the date????

----------------------------------------------------------------------------CHARLES CROES - WHAT HAPPENED?

http://bb.visitaruba.com/showthread.php?p=18418       June 2, 2005

Author: Charles (—.setardsl.aw) Date: 06-02-05 09:01

There are issues in this case that can go beyond the obvious in their implications. It will take time for all the information regarding this lovely child to come out. Some of it will be hard to handle and some of it will be expected. With regards to the family of this missing child, my prayers are with you. I was with them on the first night they arrived to ARuba (looking for their daughter) from midnight until 5:30 AM and have kept in touch. In my opinion, this issue has far reaching implications for all those involved. I wish all of us strength

charles croes aruba
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Mrs. Charles Croes? 
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« Reply #1394 on: August 16, 2008, 02:41:52 PM »

Lala’s…Leila and AG…AUA - Another Useless Acronym

Clues on Nativelingo…   

NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 4:54 pm
Natalee’s mother just spotted walking in the renaissance mall. Kid you NOT….

NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 4:56 pm
She’s with a group of people, and looks rather “slow”….decoy?? I can’t imagine that..

NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 4:58 pm
No Idea mwood, I own a store in the mall, and 3 other tenants have called me sofar with the same story…. WTH????

arubagirl on June 11th, 2005 5:00 pm
Oh, you do native? I was just there today.

NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 5:02 pm
Been there for 7 years…….

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2005/06/11/natalee-holloway-comments-post-4/#comments

NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 9:31 pm
Arubagirl….have you ever been to maui?

NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 9:49 pm
Arubagirl…..true….I had the same experiences here and in the US

NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 10:27 pm
Arubagirl…astrid is just 14 years old….. a smart 14 yr old

NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 10:35 pm
Biggy….r u from aua?

Biggy on June 11th, 2005 10:36 pm
Yes but living across the atlantic for 2 years now










FYI...Red met Native Lingo and AG when he was on Aruba...he knows who they are.  NL last name at the time was Croes if I remember correctly and she owned a business on Aruba in the mall.

When I read the following, it reminded me of Charles Croes' post on the aruba.com message board....I just don't have that handy, nor do I remember the date, but believe it was soon after Natalee's family & friends arrived.

NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 11:42 am
Leila, I agree, but looking at the MAGNITUDE and far-reaching implications of this case, I think it will affect the father…..




Just saw it yesterday, but of course couldn’t find it…Found it on Fok…Look at the date????

----------------------------------------------------------------------------CHARLES CROES - WHAT HAPPENED?

http://bb.visitaruba.com/showthread.php?p=18418      June 2, 2005

Author: Charles (—.setardsl.aw) Date: 06-02-05 09:01

There are issues in this case that can go beyond the obvious in their implications. It will take time for all the information regarding this lovely child to come out. Some of it will be hard to handle and some of it will be expected. With regards to the family of this missing child, my prayers are with you. I was with them on the first night they arrived to ARuba (looking for their daughter) from midnight until 5:30 AM and have kept in touch. In my opinion, this issue has far reaching implications for all those involved. I wish all of us strength

charles croes aruba
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Yes, having spent hours on RWV, message boards and especially here, I knew it was soon after Beth & company arrived on Aruba.  Thank you, Mum for spending the time to find it with the date.   Now, could NativeLingo be CC's young wife, or am I off the beaten path...which is okay....It's the S&S thread and I'm consistently lost. 
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« Reply #1395 on: August 16, 2008, 02:41:56 PM »

Sorry messed up the link...didn't go there so I don't even know if it still works!

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« Reply #1396 on: August 16, 2008, 02:44:08 PM »

    MUM!!!
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« Reply #1397 on: August 16, 2008, 02:47:25 PM »

Sorry messed up the link...didn't go there so I don't even know if it still works!

http://bb.visitaruba.com/showthread.php?p=18418


Yes, it still works.  I didn't notice a messed up link...maybe I can fix it.
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« Reply #1398 on: August 16, 2008, 02:48:03 PM »

Hi 2NJSons...Well Lala's posted that her name was Croes...She's been to the US and Maui...Owns a shop in the Renaissance Mall, which is pricey.

What else do we know about Charles Croes wife?

I am still wondering who the 14 year old Astrid is, some-one NativeLingo knows, as I didn't see Astrid post that herself!
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« Reply #1399 on: August 16, 2008, 02:53:00 PM »

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It has the date tied into the link where I first posted it...I think...

It is either Charles, his wife or they are posting from the same script.

Great catch 2NJS..
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