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« Reply #1520 on: August 25, 2008, 11:22:24 PM »

Colombo,

I need to understand the "players".

Is this the "Lordship"? http://scaredmonkeys.com/2006/02/25/michael-posner-upset-over-excelsior-casino-security-tapes-to-abc/

Is the 'Fallen Elder" Jan Van der Straten?"

Is the "Fallen Judge" Bob de nitWit?

Is the 'Arawak King' Ben (voc) King?

Who is DIRTY HAND THEN??? (Jan Van der Straten or Jan the the 'Fallen Elder'?)

Based on Codetakers, Dirty hand:
- Stays hidden, but all are well-fed.
- He must be hidden.
- If cowboys stay, after the sacrifice, everyone see dirty hand.
- If cowboys see dirty hand, many teepees fall. House of Babylon falls. 
- Foundations of house of Babylon will shake harder if Arawak Dirty Hand is revealed.
- Arawaks fear wrath of cowboys for DirtyHand. 
- Babylon will agree to a sacrifice of newer teepee dwellers to prevent the story of dirtyhand being made public.
- Dirtyhand scares arawaks too.
- Babylon needs to allow one sacrifice to keep DirtyHand hidden.
- Babylon scared of DirtyHand.
- Arawaks scared of DirtyHand.
- If DirtyHand discovered, House of Babylon falls, Teepees crushed under great house
- Arawaks want to make cowboys happy. Babylonians want to maintain integrity of Great House. Gods of the cowboys know there was a game in the great house, and so DirtyHand was discovered.
- The sacrifice will be offered before dirty hand sings. He will return to babylon, broken but anonymous.
- The babylonians are to blame. They did not bring DirtyHand into the Tribe! He will go back to babylon broken, after the sacrifice is eaten.
- If DirtyHand sings, sacrifice will still be eaten. 
- Even if you play cards in the house of babylon as an arawak, you still have DirtyHand.
- If DirtyHand comes out of hiding, Babylon will fall and the cowboys will circle the wagons.
- DirtyHand can destroy the Arawaks and Babylon. 
- There are many DirtyHands among the Arawak, and so it has been for centuries.
- DirtyHand is well known
- DirtyHand is alive and well.
- The Arawaks want the truth to come out. As long as DirtyHand is not found.
- DirtyHand is not an Arawak. 
- His lordship is there to preserve Babylon. not the elder. remember dirtyhand.
- DirtyHand is not an Arawak. Many pioneers have settled with the tribe.
- The card of babylon was already played. If it sings, DirtyHand will bring down the Royal House on top of the Arawak Nation.
- DirtyHand and the fallen judge may not be crucified. the gods are talking.
- DirtyHand walks with the elders. Babylon knows.
- DirtyHand knows the Babylonians that provided escort after the 2 shivas left.
- Are the children of the elders there, or did they flee to Babylon? DirtyHand knows, this is his Power. there will be 46 sacrifices.
- DirtyHand can break the Alibi, he walks all circles.
- If the Alibi is broken by DirtyHand the walls of Babylon will shake.
- You always find forbidden desires in the small houses of Babylon. the girl knew this. Find DirtyHand! He too walked in this house of Babylon. But not to satiate desire. 
- Coverups begin with elders and the founders of the houses of Babylon. Not the minions. DirtyHand knows this.
- DirtyHand is the key. He walks with the elders. He walks in all houses. And he walked with the fallen elder. he was the hidden card that was played. now if he sings, babylon will fall on the arawak nation
- DirtyHand has worked for the elders for a long time.
- Babalu opened a window looking into babylon on his 12:31 A.M. Post  DirtyHand is alive.
- Babalu knew who dirty hand was at half past 12
- DirtyHand walks with the Babylons, the Arawaks and is consort to the fallen elder . The gods are talking
- DirtyHand can bring down all houses. DirtyHand is the key. His reach is long. He walks in all circles. consort to all, except for the gods. He knows the sacrifice is not responsible.
- Thee dice throwers know the maze of the rave and the fly that entered the trap. DirtyHand is the key. He walks in many circles.
- Young Babylonians and Shivas do not build sand castles. DirtyHand knows this. Children of the Elders play in the maze, but DirtyHand is afraid to rave
- The maze offers many hidden desires deflowerings of forbidden fruits. DirtyHand knows. So does the elder. The lamb is a scapegoat.
- DirtyHand has walked through the maze. He knows of the forbidden fruit and the gardeners.
- DirtyHand does not play with the lions. but he has entered the maze. the lamb is a scapegoat. DirtyHand knows. So does the Elder.
- The Arawaks will not enter the maze unless the cowboys refuse the peace pipe. Follow the music, the lions are not tame. DirtyHand knows, so does the elder.
- Mary rolled into the maze to play with lions but it was not a game. the lamb ran bleating afraid to walk through the maze. why don’t the arawaks ambush the lions? The cowboys don’t know. DirtyHand knows, but is afraid of the Arawak Nation. The gods are talking
- Be careful of the lions. DirtyHand does not have them tamed but he can enter the den.
-  The Simian Doppleganger is upset because the arawak nation is hiding the truth from the cowboys. DirtyHand knows. 
-  Lucy spoke at 10:56 # Lucy Says: June 27th, 2005 at 10:56 pm  Someone said last night that Dirty Hand was somebody in the police.
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« Reply #1521 on: August 25, 2008, 11:43:16 PM »

Colombo,

Based on your 'link', do you think that the Babylonians (gambler Joran) traded Natalee to the Arawaks (to pay off a debt he had?)

Arawaks are afraid of being 'caught' with 'dirty hand'. 

His Lordship (Posnr??) will bestow the title (what title?) soon.



Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 5:22 pm
The babylonians knew it was dangerous to trade among the Arawaks. The way is clouded for the sacrifice. Rules have changed, so has the maze. the way is lost for the pioneers who went to live among the indians. The flames are growing. A sacrifice will be made to spare the police; to spare the teepees. Singing cards have lost their power. Arawaks worried about being caught with dirty hand. His lordship will bestow the title soon….They will save the teepees and the palace, but first The Sacrifice.
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« Reply #1522 on: August 26, 2008, 08:10:33 AM »

I am certainly not Columbo but this really nice organization here of the Codetalkers for me represents that DirtyHand, Dirty Hand, dirty hand, dirtyhand all represent INSTITUTIONAL CORRUPTION that is administered by all of those individuals that you listed in their individual administrative positions & although Simiian & Shango posted that there would be a "sacrifice" WE ALL KNOW NOW there was no sacrifice, the predator/predator's would be protected in order to keep the "dirty secrets" on the "down low".

There is NO WAY that I personally can believe that the USA/It's Agencies are not COMPLETELY AWARE OF THIS INSTITUTIONAL CORRUPTION & the only dirty secrets that are indeed secrets only to the STUPID UNPROTECTED/NON-CONNECTED/NON-ELITE AMERICANS who are the actual known SACRIFICES who continue to be encouraged to travel to the PERVERTED DESTINATION of ARUBA.  For political gains it has been deemed as nothing but collaterol damage necessary to maintain the desired political gains that are dirty secrets from the American masses that become the carrots to the horse, per se.

IMO, our State Department takes the lead of the Agencies & the others go along by maintaining silence.  The most recent example that comes to mind is Abu Graib (spelling?), our FBI was fully aware, refused to participate but kept their bloody mouths shut.  State Department, Defense Department & Justice Department were fully well aware at the highest of levels.

WHY????????? = lack of public policy based on sound principles consisting of integrity & purpose sacrificed accordingly for political gains & manipulation by both of the political parties of our country that enable these 3rd world nations to prey on our masses while espousing their working so hard to carry on the business of the American People.  These types exist in every nation but the old adage holds true to persons with character, integrity & humane values that "2 wrongs DO NOT MAKE A RIGHT. WHAT IS WRONG IS WRONG & according to our constitution, which all of the persons employed by our country take an oath to uphold, very few uphold it as they also collect the financial rewards of casting those protections & duties aside out of misdirected loyalty & fear of personal repercussions, which IMO make them COWARDS, regardless of their nationalities.

Disgusting, as I all too often have expressed on these pages of this honorable group that make up Scared Monkeys, regardless of our political affiliations, we seek justice, fairness, character & decent treatment in our quest for the rights of VICTIMS of the opposite values of evil that turn a blinds eye.

IMHO, couldn't hold back this rant.  Thank you for your tolerance.
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« Reply #1523 on: August 26, 2008, 08:23:06 AM »

I am certainly not Columbo but this really nice organization here of the Codetalkers for me represents that DirtyHand, Dirty Hand, dirty hand, dirtyhand all represent INSTITUTIONAL CORRUPTION that is administered by all of those individuals that you listed in their individual administrative positions & although Simiian & Shango posted that there would be a "sacrifice" WE ALL KNOW NOW there was no sacrifice, the predator/predator's would be protected in order to keep the "dirty secrets" on the "down low".

There is NO WAY that I personally can believe that the USA/It's Agencies are not COMPLETELY AWARE OF THIS INSTITUTIONAL CORRUPTION & the only dirty secrets that are indeed secrets only to the STUPID UNPROTECTED/NON-CONNECTED/NON-ELITE AMERICANS who are the actual known SACRIFICES who continue to be encouraged to travel to the PERVERTED DESTINATION of ARUBA.  For political gains it has been deemed as nothing but collaterol damage necessary to maintain the desired political gains that are dirty secrets from the American masses that become the carrots to the horse, per se.

IMO, our State Department takes the lead of the Agencies & the others go along by maintaining silence.  The most recent example that comes to mind is Abu Graib (spelling?), our FBI was fully aware, refused to participate but kept their bloody mouths shut.  State Department, Defense Department & Justice Department were fully well aware at the highest of levels.

WHY????????? = lack of public policy based on sound principles consisting of integrity & purpose sacrificed accordingly for political gains & manipulation by both of the political parties of our country that enable these 3rd world nations to prey on our masses while espousing their working so hard to carry on the business of the American People.  These types exist in every nation but the old adage holds true to persons with character, integrity & humane values that "2 wrongs DO NOT MAKE A RIGHT. WHAT IS WRONG IS WRONG & according to our constitution, which all of the persons employed by our country take an oath to uphold, very few uphold it as they also collect the financial rewards of casting those protections & duties aside out of misdirected loyalty & fear of personal repercussions, which IMO make them COWARDS, regardless of their nationalities.

Disgusting, as I all too often have expressed on these pages of this honorable group that make up Scared Monkeys, regardless of our political affiliations, we seek justice, fairness, character & decent treatment in our quest for the rights of VICTIMS of the opposite values of evil that turn a blinds eye.

IMHO, couldn't hold back this rant.  Thank you for your tolerance.

Good Morning Altruist!...Rant all you want...LOL

I am convinced that the Powers to be here in the US are fully aware...there are other priorities. This is why they have turned a blind eye. (I sure as heck hope that is the only reason they have done that!)

And this is also why Joran acts as he does...he knows he is untouchable.
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« Reply #1524 on: August 26, 2008, 08:26:27 AM »

The Title bestowed = Modus Operandi.         The Show Must Go On.

All will remain as status quo on the Perverted Island of Aruba, the sacrifice was Natalee Holloway, who deserved the full protection of her country.  Natalee Holloway deserved SO MUCH MORE as another talented, needed  light was extinguished by the Dark Side that is allowed to thrive at all cost to what is right.  Aruba is NOT a SAFE DESTINATION for NON PERVERTS.
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« Reply #1525 on: August 26, 2008, 08:36:20 AM »

Thanks Mum, well see that blinds eye is totally unjustified.  Whether there are other priorities should not hinder our government from taking the right position when injustice is delivered regarless if the injustice is delivered by our allies or our enemies.  2 Wrongs DO NOT make a Right & it brings upon us SHAME.  It is not an honorable reflection of our Country as a whole.

It plain Pizzes me off to no end.  I will never accept it, NEVER.  It is totally dishonorable.

Thanks for your understanding.
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« Reply #1526 on: August 26, 2008, 08:47:00 AM »

Rant continues

& that waste of oxygen JVDS & all others involved in this travesty ARE GOING TO GET THEIRS, it's just a matter of time, if not on this earth than the here after but in ALL PROBABILITY it will be BOTH.
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« Reply #1527 on: August 26, 2008, 06:52:03 PM »

Poochy:

re-posting-
 (the game, pg 4:  http://www.ca11.uscourts.gov/opinions/ops/200214306.pdf  )
 hand, rules of the game: pg 18
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dirty hand:
Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 10:01 pm
Arawaks often go to play (the game) in small houses of Babylon with the offspring of the Elders

re-stated:

Babalú Says: June 27th, 2005 at 12:30 am
Concerned: No, I guess he is head of some local official corps. He is the guy that knows everything and that has been in the house of Babylonians NOT seeking pleasure for himself, so Shango says. So maybe he went to search for Natalee and he is the chief of Polis.

DirtyHand=the link, holds real key
Shango Says: June 28th, 2005 at 12:23 am
Follow the notes
to the poison house
where
the children of the babylonians
and the arawak nation (Arawaks!)
meet, under cover of delusion.
In the maze
the lions which play
shall be found.
The gamblers also took note.
Tell the cowboys!
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« Reply #1528 on: August 26, 2008, 06:56:05 PM »

Poochy:

trade="play"
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« Reply #1529 on: August 26, 2008, 08:29:36 PM »

p.18      http://www.ca11.uscourts.gov/opinions/ops/200214306.pdf
catch hand
turn out hand

elders of "the game" (pg 4), not just of babylon (arawak!)

"he (5th) has a history of making himself something he's not (Arawak?)"
"a sacrifice will be made to spare the polis" (hand holding it dirty, too!)

the fallen judge and the singing card (DirtyHand) are of the same (catch) hand, but it is dangerous for the arawaks to play it

"DirtyHand knows the babylonians who provided escort after the shivas left (turn out hand)" (He is the link! he holds the real key!)

"why did the girl owe money?"

Both Simian and Shango have several fallacies in their prose.  Natalee did not owe money...this thought led Caps to think it was another girl.  When in fact, Shango was only going by what was being reported...in the news.  The story of Natalee owing money and Joran winning it back for her lingered for some time in the media.  It took several interviews for both Beth and Dave to get that story straight. 




"he (5th) has a history of making himself something he's not (Arawak?)"



How did we come up with this being Arawak in this post?  I am confused on that one? What if Simian meant he thinks he's all that and wants to be the stud, but I have watched him and he's all show. I can't figure out the arawak reference.



The arawaks hold the singing cards. They have the babylonian and 2 shivas. But the other card is dirty.
Even if you play cards in the house of babylon as an arawak, you still have DirtyHand. (the card that was played)

Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 10:49 pm
The maze offers many hidden desires
deflowerings of forbidden fruits
DirtyHand knows.
So does the elder.

The lamb is a scapegoat.


Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 11:18 pm
DirtyHand does not play with the lions
but he has entered the maze
the lamb is a scapegoat
DirtyHand knows
So does the Elder
(doesn't say that elder doesn't play w/ lions)

Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 10:52 pm
DirtyHand has walked through the maze
He knows of the forbidden fruit
and the gardeners (the catch hand)
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« Reply #1530 on: August 26, 2008, 08:30:27 PM »

Rant continues

& that waste of oxygen JVDS & all others involved in this travesty ARE GOING TO GET THEIRS, it's just a matter of time, if not on this earth than the here after but in ALL PROBABILITY it will be BOTH.

{{{applause}}}

Thanks for all that.
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« Reply #1531 on: August 26, 2008, 09:49:24 PM »

Poochy:

trade="play"
Got it --traded like a baseball card, the trade is the real export on this trampoline island. They all know this - arawaks, babylonians, all of them. And if we found this out, their island would go kaput.

5/16/06 the grey whisper said...
We all know the export is not the drugs, texan. Find the real export in the middle of the island and you will find the answers you seek.


Middle of the island = the Hooiberg/haystack. "Look by the haystack in the small hours. They live in the conuco, but they are the only ones who can open the palace doors." (Do the "gardners" live in the conuco)?
 
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So Dirty Hand walks in all 'houses' and saw Natalee in one of those houses? He is the key? He can identify she was there (unknowingly and unwillingly due to being drugged) and in what house? Or is he the owner of a house - and has the key to the house?

Deepak said to Joran "...your own father". Was Paulus with JVdStraten (fallen elder) in the same house (while Anita was away?)

Shango Says:June 26th, 2005 at 10:53 pm
DirtyHand is the key. He walks with the elders. He walks in all houses. And he walked with the fallen elder. He was the hidden card that was played. Now if he sings, babylon will fall on the arawak nation.

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 5:58 pm
Arawaks want to make cowboys happy. Babylonians want to maintain integrity of Great House. Gods of the cowboys know there was a game in the great house, and so DirtyHand was discovered. But the sacrifice will be offered before dirty hand sings. He will return to babylon, broken but anonymous.


Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 10:01 pm
Arawaks often go to play in small houses of Babylon with the offspring of the Elders [THE ONES WHO FLED ARUBA - CROMVORT, WEVER, GOTTENBOS, ETC].
 
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So just when I thought the codetalkers reference to 'Babylonian' was gamblers/ca$ino owner I guess it means something else...

http://www.englishforums.com/English/SlangInMattafixSongs/bplvn/post.htm

Anonymous   #160476  Sat, 19 Nov 05 09:10 PM   
I had a look at the lyrics of the song "Big City life" by Mattafix. There are phrases which I can't understand or even if I know their meaning I don't their origin. Who uses them? In what situations?

"Big City Life,
Me try fi get by,
Pressure nah ease up no matter how hard me try.
Big City Life,
Here my heart have no base,
And right now Babylon de pon me case"
The unclear fragments are: me; fi, nah (I guess it means no); de pon me case.
Thanks for your help
 
"Babylon" in Jamaican English is more or less equivalent to the American expession "The Man". "Babylon" has a broad context in Rastafarian and Jamaican thought, that includes all parts of the current political and economic system that are corrupt and intent on fostering inequity and inequality. See: "Babylon System", by Bob Marley on the Survival Album. So in theory, if a Jamaican cop is bent on doing right by the people, he could theoretically not be "Babylon", but a kid who is wearing his trust fund dreadlocks, tooling around town listening to Busta Rhymes, but will be working in Advertising in six years, could be considered a latent "Babylonian". "And we can not let Babylon continue to play games with us" -- Haiku D'etat (Los Dangerous)


so codetalker "Babylon" is Jamaican for "DA MAN" - corruption in the political and economic system. JA BLESS!

Simian Says: June 24th, 2005 at 6:05 pm
Don’t try and hack the Simian. We smoke Nederweed. Genetically enigineered. No battle. The man on the inside will call soon. The confrontation will last all night. The boy’s arrogance will be his downfall. I’m leaving now.

Simian Says: June 25th, 2005 at 7:28 pm
The father [PAULUS] is trapped in a legal check mate. The boy [JORAN] is mutilating his own tongue. He [JORAN] doesn’t want to let the old man [DA MAN] down.


DA MAN = DIRTY HAND?
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« Reply #1532 on: August 26, 2008, 10:00:06 PM »

p.18      http://www.ca11.uscourts.gov/opinions/ops/200214306.pdf
catch hand
turn out hand

elders of "the game" (pg 4), not just of babylon (arawak!)

"he (5th) has a history of making himself something he's not (Arawak?)"
"a sacrifice will be made to spare the polis" (hand holding it dirty, too!)

the fallen judge and the singing card (DirtyHand) are of the same (catch) hand, but it is dangerous for the arawaks to play it

"DirtyHand knows the babylonians who provided escort after the shivas left (turn out hand)" (He is the link! he holds the real key!)

"why did the girl owe money?"

Both Simian and Shango have several fallacies in their prose.  Natalee did not owe money...this thought led Caps to think it was another girl.  When in fact, Shango was only going by what was being reported...in the news.  The story of Natalee owing money and Joran winning it back for her lingered for some time in the media.  It took several interviews for both Beth and Dave to get that story straight. 




"he (5th) has a history of making himself something he's not (Arawak?)"



How did we come up with this being Arawak in this post?  I am confused on that one? What if Simian meant he thinks he's all that and wants to be the stud, but I have watched him and he's all show. I can't figure out the arawak reference.



The arawaks hold the singing cards. They have the babylonian and 2 shivas. But the other card is dirty.
Even if you play cards in the house of babylon as an arawak, you still have DirtyHand. (the card that was played)

Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 10:49 pm
The maze offers many hidden desires
deflowerings of forbidden fruits
DirtyHand knows.
So does the elder.

The lamb is a scapegoat.


Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 11:18 pm
DirtyHand does not play with the lions
but he has entered the maze
the lamb is a scapegoat
DirtyHand knows
So does the Elder
(doesn't say that elder doesn't play w/ lions)

Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 10:52 pm
DirtyHand has walked through the maze
He knows of the forbidden fruit
and the gardeners (the catch hand)


Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 10:52 pm
DirtyHand has walked through the maze
He knows of the forbidden fruit
and the gardeners (the catch hand)



The forbidden fruit = Max Devries
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j32/carpehumor/Max11.png

...and the 8 yr old boy's body they recovered from the dunes...

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2007/03/26/protest-aruba-in-boston-a-summary-from-richard-we-the-people/
see post 121 Carpe Noctem on March 27th, 2007 1:15 pm

and read what the Bradley's think about the 'trade' :
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=73463

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« Reply #1533 on: August 26, 2008, 10:24:30 PM »

two different bars 'Charlie's Bar and Carlos and Charlies'. But while reading Charlie's Bar review it reminded me that there was an upstairs to Carlos & Charlies. Remember Deepak said he "lost" Joran and Natalee and Satish, and Satish said he got a 'missed call' from Deepak. Could they have been upstairs inside C&C? Read about Charlie's Bar... and remember Amy Bradley was 'downstairs' in a bar when she told the marine her name and asked for help --- and then she was told to get 'upstairs'...

ARE THESE BROTHELS UPSTAIRS IN THESE CLUBS? WHICH CLUB IS THE 'GREAT HOUSE'?

http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g147251-d148238-r5042277-Charlie_s_Bar-Southeast_Coast_Aruba.html

“loved the shrimp but surprised to know we were in a brothel”Charlie's Bar
   
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We were traveling to Baby beach to enjoy a day of snorkeling.All the way there we kept seeing signs for Charlies bar & grill. If you have ever driven to Myrtle Beach South Carolina you've seen the signs "Pedro says" visit South of the Border.well you know what a disaster that place is ----but you just have to stop and see it. same goes with Charlies signs every couple of miles it got our curiosity up so on the way back we stopped to get something to eat and a cold beer. It 's a small place but clean lots of memorabilia we're taking something to hang up when we go back.......then the owner asked if we would like to go upstairs I looked at him like why?????? He then informed us that it's a brothel We were with another couple and he only wanted the two women to go . the place gives you a lot to talk about when you return home but the owner is definitely a dirty old man. the food is good and the beer is cold

Charlie's Bar Address
Main Street | San Nicolas, Aruba
Tel: (297) 584-5086 Fax: (297) 584-1640


http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g147248-d619396-r13934262-Carlos_n_Charlie_s-Oranjestad_Aruba.html

Reviews of Carlos 'n Charlie's( 1-3 of 3 )
“Don't Go!”
Carlos 'n Charlie's

Feb 29, 2008
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My family and I spend a lot of time in Aruba and we love it but I would not give Carlos 'n 'Charlies my business ever again. During a previous trip I mistakenly paid for 2 margaritas with a $100 dollar bill. The bartender was joking and laughing with me and ignored me each time I asked for my change. Finally I got angry and insisted that he give me my change and he said that I had given him a $10 and there was no change (he was laughing while he said this). The funny thing is that 2 of those tall margaritas cost more than $10 so he would not have accepted that amount. I spoke with a police officer who informed me that the staff at Carlos'n'Charlies regularly does this to visitors that they think are coming from the cruise ships because those visitors will not have enough time to argue for their $.

carlos and charlies
West Straat 3-A Oranjestad
Aruba
Tel: 297 582 0355
Fax: 297 582 0275

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« Reply #1534 on: August 27, 2008, 10:36:39 AM »

Rant continues

& that waste of oxygen JVDS & all others involved in this travesty ARE GOING TO GET THEIRS, it's just a matter of time, if not on this earth than the here after but in ALL PROBABILITY it will be BOTH.

Great job, Altruist!  You have nailed it.  The only consolation left in this whole thing is the understanding that everything comes back around.  Some things are on bigger wheels and may take a little longer to get back around...but, they will come back around.  Some way, Some how.
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« Reply #1535 on: August 27, 2008, 12:52:01 PM »

I think it was Elizabeth Cain who said that she had seen Natalee at the Holiday Inn bar with someone earlier in the week and then didn't see her for a day or so.  There has to be something on the Holiday Inn security tapes.  No doubt Ale has those tapes and whoever is at that bar with Natalee is probably the 5th and the boyfirend from earlier in the week,  Does anyone know anything about Elizabeth Cain?  Did she talk to anyone else?  I think that Simian is talking about the Holiday Inn tapes and not the tapes from the casino.

They were only there for about 4 days...that includes the day they got there and then the day they left which Natalee was a part of by then...so how can she be with her friend FEB all that time and always with her according to her and be missing with someone else?  It had to be when the group of girls was flirting with Joran and gang on the beach...or was that Freddy and GVC?  I can't remember now..I have too many things on my mind...I need to slow down some.
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« Reply #1536 on: August 27, 2008, 08:57:31 PM »

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« Reply #1537 on: August 28, 2008, 01:08:23 AM »

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« Reply #1538 on: August 28, 2008, 01:13:34 AM »

Kalpoe v. McGraw, et al.
Case Number: BC3 63401

The following documents are being withheld pursuant to Article 45 of the Code of Criminal Procedure Law of Aruba. Under Article 45, Plaintiffs' Aruban counsel may not produce the contents of this file. Cremer, Kopon, Shaughnessy & Spina, L LC does not have these documents.

This log describes all the documents contained within Aruban counsel's file. Aruban counsel does not have the entire criminal file. They do not have in their possession, custody, or control many of the documents pertaining to the arrest of the other suspects in this case, They also do not have all the documents pertaining to Deepak Kalpoe, as Deepak was originally represented by different counsel.


Name/Title/Description: Interview with Elizabeth Cain
Date: 03102/2006
Pages: 2
File #: 163a-bb-1426-853
Location: Tuscaloosa Offices
Writer/Initiator: Not Stated

http://www.hollowaycase.com/archive/civil_court_docs/arubancounselfile.htm
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« Reply #1539 on: August 28, 2008, 01:16:52 AM »

Name: Freddy Alexander Zedan Arambatzis
Date:28 June 2005 / 14:25
Pages: 11
Writer/Initiator: Shaniro Kelly & Haydee Nadal
Description: witness statement

Name: Lorenzo Van Rijn
Date: 28 June 2005 / 17:00
Pages: 2
Writer/Initiator: Giovanni Heyliger
Description: witness statement

http://www.hollowaycase.com/archive/civil_court_docs/arubancounselfile.htm
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