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« Reply #1660 on: September 18, 2008, 01:31:48 PM »

Simian Says: June 28th, 2005 at 2:09 am
The Simian is disapointed. The Simian repeats himself seldom[/b], but like to say the he only reports ahead of time. The clues were solely to avoid implicating sources. Never to hurt the feeling of the readers.
Seeing how this has been used to foul, the Simian will again say that he will retire.

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Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:29 pm
I did not say an ex. Do you people read? I not into repeating myself.

[feels need to repeat himself]
Girl comes to Aruba. Meets cool and crazy guy in C@$ino. Goes out with him. He declares that to be the case. Can’t deny it. It’s on tape.  Everybody in the C@$ino knows the group of teens, they have been drinking in there for free the whole week. After a couple of days girl meets another boy in the same C@$ino. Goes out with him.
Simian: This makes first guy really mad. So mad he confronts second boy.
First guy never denies the affair. He knows they know he was with her. However, he has an airtight alibi. Some friends say they were at home with him. Until the morning.
How can this ever be solved?


Yeah.  When they began mimicking him he morphed into Merian and I am sure a few other people as well. 
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« Reply #1661 on: September 18, 2008, 01:34:04 PM »

I am surprised no one has latched onto the Paulus as the 5th suspect yet again...things are beginning to point in his direction as the 5th. 

Left the party...came to pickup Joran..party goers were the alibi....how could he have left...it was a simple party at his house...etc.

Are you guys falling down on the job again...where are my pencils? Rolling Eyes
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« Reply #1662 on: September 18, 2008, 02:11:56 PM »

I am surprised no one has latched onto the Paulus as the 5th suspect yet again...things are beginning to point in his direction as the 5th. 

Left the party...came to pickup Joran..party goers were the alibi....how could he have left...it was a simple party at his house...etc.

Are you guys falling down on the job again...where are my pencils? Rolling Eyes

Or the simple party was at or behind the matty apts, (Deepak to Joran "...your own father") and all the party goers turned the other way... the partygoers must be pinched!
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« Reply #1663 on: September 18, 2008, 04:44:19 PM »

I am surprised no one has latched onto the Paulus as the 5th suspect yet again...things are beginning to point in his direction as the 5th. 

Left the party...came to pickup Joran..party goers were the alibi....how could he have left...it was a simple party at his house...etc.

Are you guys falling down on the job again...where are my pencils? Rolling Eyes

Colombo and I have been saying forever that Paulus is the fifth.
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« Reply #1664 on: September 18, 2008, 05:34:37 PM »

the alibi STORY is just the latest

sometimes friends cover for each other

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« Reply #1665 on: September 18, 2008, 05:35:17 PM »

"partygoers" pinched.........for perjury?
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« Reply #1666 on: September 18, 2008, 05:35:36 PM »

that would break the alibi
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« Reply #1667 on: September 18, 2008, 07:50:12 PM »

I am surprised no one has latched onto the Paulus as the 5th suspect yet again...things are beginning to point in his direction as the 5th. 

Left the party...came to pickup Joran..party goers were the alibi....how could he have left...it was a simple party at his house...etc.

Are you guys falling down on the job again...where are my pencils? Rolling Eyes

Colombo and I have been saying forever that Paulus is the fifth.

Still don't think Paulus was ever Natalee's boyfriend...but by now it doesn't matter.
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« Reply #1668 on: September 18, 2008, 08:17:50 PM »

Name: Simian | E-mail: xx | IP: xx
Nobody is a boob. The alibi needs to be destroyed. Daddy knows who was there. He has answers too. ("Daddy" was there......who switched places....who is the link?)

Simian | E-mail: xx | IP: xx
Did you ever ask your buddies to cover for you? Would they? Did they ever? Would they do it if they really knew what went on?

Name: Simian | E-mail: xx | IP: xx
Was I the one who was speculative? My story was not about the boys. Don’t dismiss if you can’t remember. Are you asking for a refresher?
http://www.hyscience.com/archives/2005/08/saturday_night_1.php
Curtoursy Harry Tho ....

Also, Tito Lacle in a Scared Monkeys' interview (also on Friday) revealed the missing Excelsior casino manager is a guy named Michael Posner. This is an interesting tidbit, because Posner and Joran were associates. If I am not mistaken, some of Natalee's girlfriends mentioned seeing Natalee talking with this guy in the Excelsior casino. Now, this guy went missing, or unavailable, at about the same time that Natalee was determined to be missing. Whether we can rely on this information or not is questionable, but according to Twitty-Holloway group, it is this casino manger that gave Joran open gambling credit lines at the Excelsior Casino. Tito Lacle only confirms that Joran frequented casinos. The fact that Posner and Natalee went missing during the same week is too much of a coincidence to overlook. Posner would have had all the connections at his disposal to scoop Natalee out of Aruba unnoticed.Yet, Posner's name never seems to surface in any news interview or blog post. Another acquaintance of Natalee's in Aruba is this mysterious guy named Lorenzo. Tito Lacle in a Scared Monkeys' interview revealed this Loranzo's name is Wever and that he had left for Holland. Lorenzo supposedly dined with Natalee a few days before her disappearance. Some posters on another blog contended that Loranzo had a drug connections. To my knowledge, police interviewed Lorenzo during the first month after Natalee's disappearance. I find this last name of Lorenzo - Wever, interesting, because in the early days of the investigation he was referred to as Lorenzo van Rihn or something like that.



Lorenzo van Rijn is a crazy drug dealer who is also reported to be the illegitimate son of Paulass.  He and Urine are close.  Lorenzo has a lot of money and lives in his own fortified house.  He is older that Urine.  Guido Wever is the croupier from the casino who left for Holland.  Guido is reported to be gay.  Both of these two were supposedly involved in the video party with Natalee at the Matty Apts.
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« Reply #1669 on: September 18, 2008, 08:26:42 PM »

I am surprised no one has latched onto the Paulus as the 5th suspect yet again...things are beginning to point in his direction as the 5th. 

Left the party...came to pickup Joran..party goers were the alibi....how could he have left...it was a simple party at his house...etc.

Are you guys falling down on the job again...where are my pencils? Rolling Eyes

Colombo and I have been saying forever that Paulus is the fifth.

My gut still tells me LVR.
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« Reply #1670 on: September 18, 2008, 08:42:17 PM »

I am surprised no one has latched onto the Paulus as the 5th suspect yet again...things are beginning to point in his direction as the 5th. 

Left the party...came to pickup Joran..party goers were the alibi....how could he have left...it was a simple party at his house...etc.

Are you guys falling down on the job again...where are my pencils? Rolling Eyes

Colombo and I have been saying forever that Paulus is the fifth.

My gut still tells me LVR.


who is DirtyHand?


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« Reply #1671 on: September 19, 2008, 05:41:40 AM »

I am surprised no one has latched onto the Paulus as the 5th suspect yet again...things are beginning to point in his direction as the 5th. 

Left the party...came to pickup Joran..party goers were the alibi....how could he have left...it was a simple party at his house...etc.

Are you guys falling down on the job again...where are my pencils? Rolling Eyes

Colombo and I have been saying forever that Paulus is the fifth.

My gut still tells me LVR.


who is DirtyHand?





Good Morning COLUMBO...I happen to think that Paulus is a major Dirty Hand. Pretty sure he had something to do with a couple of high profile extraditions in the 1990s...Which leads me back to Shango.
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« Reply #1672 on: September 19, 2008, 05:46:45 AM »

I am surprised no one has latched onto the Paulus as the 5th suspect yet again...things are beginning to point in his direction as the 5th. 

Left the party...came to pickup Joran..party goers were the alibi....how could he have left...it was a simple party at his house...etc.

Are you guys falling down on the job again...where are my pencils? Rolling Eyes

Colombo and I have been saying forever that Paulus is the fifth.

My gut still tells me LVR.


Good Morning SS...

Lorenzo van Gijn/Rijn…Jossy said Gijn…One a son of a Lawyer, Joran…one the son of a Judge, Lorenzo…2 Dutch brothers according to one of the Security guards mothers…Joran and Val…June 15th…Val came across the pond.  According to Anita the phone found by the Lighthouse was Val’s.  Satish was asked if Val could drive?  Why ask this if he was in the Netherlands…

The justices on the Curacao bench

From  previous posts back on page 74...coincidence???

mr. L. van Gijn august 1st 2000

Judge sorry the translated page didn't copy
Rechter Leo van Gijn wilde vooral van de bewindsman en het Departement van Luchtvaart horen waarom het eerste artikel van de verleende vergunning alle ruimte biedt aan de luchtvaartmaatschappij


Reply #1468 on: January 29, 2008, 01:53:32 PM »   Reply with quote



http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1952.3040
 
I knew I'd seen it...Jossy used Gijn...the other paper used Rijn...From what I've seen the Gijn family is influential and has a history in The netherlands...

#471 on: June 21, 2007, 11:39:26 AM » Quote 

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Cas yena cu camara, yen di cacho brabo y rondona cu prikkel draad…
LORENZO VAN GIJN DETENI PA PLANTACION GRANDI
DI MARIHUANA NA SAVANETA

ORANJESTAD(AAN):Lorenzo van Gijn no ta un desconoci di polis. Den e bishitanan cu e Team Bijzondere Projecten a haci na diferente lugar, su cas no tabata un excepcion.



January 14, 2008, 02:37:37 PM
Do we know if Guido is Aruban or Dutch? I'm getting kinda stuck on someone else running off to the Netherlands...but that's because in the back of my mind I have one of the SG's mothers saying 'dutch brothers' from an influential family.

January 11, 2008, 11:00:53 AM
From June 5th 2005….8.34AM …Arbeej

http://bb.visitaruba.com/showthread.php?t=2244&page=6
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"* One of the 3 original "persons of interest" is the son of a Judge on the island of Aruba..."

This was actually confirmed for us by an Aruban news reporter. He confirmed that one is the son of a judge, the other the son of a lawyer. It was not, however, clarified as to whether their Dads and the rest of the families live and work on Aruba. The three boys, though born in other countries, are legal residents of Aruba. I do not Know long they have lived there, but they are indeed legal residents.                   
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« Reply #1673 on: September 19, 2008, 08:31:55 AM »

I am surprised no one has latched onto the Paulus as the 5th suspect yet again...things are beginning to point in his direction as the 5th. 

Left the party...came to pickup Joran..party goers were the alibi....how could he have left...it was a simple party at his house...etc.

Are you guys falling down on the job again...where are my pencils? Rolling Eyes

Colombo and I have been saying forever that Paulus is the fifth.

My gut still tells me LVR.


Good Morning SS...

Lorenzo van Gijn/Rijn…Jossy said Gijn…One a son of a Lawyer, Joran…one the son of a Judge, Lorenzo…2 Dutch brothers according to one of the Security guards mothers…Joran and Val…June 15th…Val came across the pond.  According to Anita the phone found by the Lighthouse was Val’s.  Satish was asked if Val could drive?  Why ask this if he was in the Netherlands…

The justices on the Curacao bench

From  previous posts back on page 74...coincidence???

mr. L. van Gijn august 1st 2000

Judge sorry the translated page didn't copy
Rechter Leo van Gijn wilde vooral van de bewindsman en het Departement van Luchtvaart horen waarom het eerste artikel van de verleende vergunning alle ruimte biedt aan de luchtvaartmaatschappij


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http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1952.3040
 
I knew I'd seen it...Jossy used Gijn...the other paper used Rijn...From what I've seen the Gijn family is influential and has a history in The netherlands...

#471 on: June 21, 2007, 11:39:26 AM » Quote 

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Cas yena cu camara, yen di cacho brabo y rondona cu prikkel draad…
LORENZO VAN GIJN DETENI PA PLANTACION GRANDI
DI MARIHUANA NA SAVANETA

ORANJESTAD(AAN):Lorenzo van Gijn no ta un desconoci di polis. Den e bishitanan cu e Team Bijzondere Projecten a haci na diferente lugar, su cas no tabata un excepcion.



January 14, 2008, 02:37:37 PM
Do we know if Guido is Aruban or Dutch? I'm getting kinda stuck on someone else running off to the Netherlands...but that's because in the back of my mind I have one of the SG's mothers saying 'dutch brothers' from an influential family.

January 11, 2008, 11:00:53 AM
From June 5th 2005….8.34AM …Arbeej

http://bb.visitaruba.com/showthread.php?t=2244&page=6
Link no longer works

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"* One of the 3 original "persons of interest" is the son of a Judge on the island of Aruba..."

This was actually confirmed for us by an Aruban news reporter. He confirmed that one is the son of a judge, the other the son of a lawyer. It was not, however, clarified as to whether their Dads and the rest of the families live and work on Aruba. The three boys, though born in other countries, are legal residents of Aruba. I do not Know long they have lived there, but they are indeed legal residents.                   


One 'BOY' and one "GUY.

So ONE was LATE for school, and ONE was ON TIME for school.

First I've ever heard of a Lorenzo van Gijn...I heard of Lorenzo van Rijn (of Rembrandt the painter fame) and a Lorenzo Wever, which I hear in Netherlands can also be spelled Weijer, but never a Gijn.... interesting, very very interesting...                    



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« Reply #1674 on: September 19, 2008, 07:28:17 PM »

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:09 pm
Simian, who else plays in the orchestra? A Babylonian….

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:10 pm
Simian, older PVDS had one or two cards up his sleeve. They have been played, and lost. Will one of the cards sing?

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:43 pm
The fallen judge agreed to sing because he can hum any tune
He needs to sing for his son, or see the end of his babylonian offspring

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 10:53 pm
DirtyHand is the key (to open unknown doors)
He walks with the elders
He walks in all houses
And he walked with the fallen elder
he was the hidden card that was played
now if he sings, babylon will fall on the arawak nation

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:42 pm
Arawaks hold singing card from babylon (he walked with the fallen elder)
There is also a trio. One Babylonian. 2 Shivas.
Arawaks can’t let babylonian Card sing because hand holding it dirty too. (dirty hand)
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« Reply #1675 on: September 19, 2008, 07:31:30 PM »

re: hand holding it dirty too

....but the foundations of the house of babylon will shake
even harder if Arawak Dirty Hand is revealed (Loesge post?)

DirtyHand is not an arawak
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« Reply #1676 on: September 19, 2008, 07:33:07 PM »

foundations of the house of babylon shake harder? (basement?)

Shango has not danced with the lions

5th suspect is waltzing away
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« Reply #1677 on: September 19, 2008, 07:35:26 PM »

DirtyHand is afraid to rave

Shango does not say this about the elder

"he has a history of making himself something he's not" (lion, arawak???)
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« Reply #1678 on: September 20, 2008, 10:10:27 AM »

I am surprised no one has latched onto the Paulus as the 5th suspect yet again...things are beginning to point in his direction as the 5th. 

Left the party...came to pickup Joran..party goers were the alibi....how could he have left...it was a simple party at his house...etc.

Are you guys falling down on the job again...where are my pencils? Rolling Eyes

Colombo and I have been saying forever that Paulus is the fifth.

My gut still tells me LVR.


who is DirtyHand?

I think these people actually saw who DirtyHand is, apprehended him, called the cops, and the cops drove away and I presume let him back out on the streets to do his next dirty deed.  I left off the person's name, but it is around the net if you care to google.

And how many more we don't know about.... this one made it out alive...(wonder if the hubby's name was David...)

http://tinyurl.com/4msum7

A Tourist in 1996 (posting in 2005):

My heart aches for Natalee and her family. I've known from the minute Natalee was announced missing on the tv, exactly what happened to her. I have been in touch with the FBI, and they have my statement. I have been to Aruba 3 times, and the last time was HORRIBLE.

In 1996, I went with my husband and 4 friends. We stayed at the same hotel Natalee stayed at. My husband and I were both drugged, taken from the hotel casino. My husband was locked in a back room of the bar The Rio Grande, I was taken out to the desert, and didnt come out of the black out until the next morning. I had been raped and beaten. I was fortunate enough to talk my way out of the situation, promising I wouldnt go to the police. When I got back to my hotel, my husband and a friend did go to the police station..........it is just like you've seen on the tv for the Holloway-Twitty family. They did NOTHING to help us at all. Even with the police knowing, that the casino-workers and the Commishioner of the casino had a problem with the "man",  and were also willing to help my husband and I.

We switched hotels that day, and stayed in most of the time we were there. The night before we were to leave all 6 of us decided to go to the beach. That "man" showed up. My husband and cousin got a hold of him, we asked a hotel worker to call the police (they took almost an hour to get there). We told them what had happened and they simply put him in the back of the police jeep uncuffed, and drove away with him. I guess we were all in shock, my husband and I just glad to be leaving both alive.

They have never mentioned on the news the brothel out in the desert behind the Holiday Inn pass the light house, thats were I was taken to, a police-woman told me that it was a wh*re-House, no big deal??
I have tried to get in touch with the Beth Holloway, I think I could maybe help her or at least tell her that Natalee didnt feel any pain, as I said I was drugged and I dont remember anything until the next day. A lot of parents are now coming on tv again with the same situations of missing children from all islands, but none have gotten any justice or even an answer. It seems I am the only one to have survived. I pray for Natalee and her family every morning and every night, and badly wish there was a way to comfort her mom, who has been, and has had to be, a very strong woman. My husband had to only endure a couple hours of not knowing if I was alive or what happened. He said he cant imagine how they feel. So our hearts and prayers are with them daily. I hope this all ends soon for them, no mother should have to be put through this.

I havent been able to talk about what happened to me for 9 years, but I would do ANYTHING to help Natalee and her family

(see johan555 post here for yet another issue of a missing couple here http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3363.920)
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« Reply #1679 on: September 20, 2008, 10:21:36 AM »


The woman who posted her drugging in Aruba writes  "...the casino-workers and the Commishioner of the casino had a problem with the "man",  and were also willing to help my husband and I...." 

THE "MAN" = "DIRTYHAND (IMO). We know from Shango that DirtyHand was at the party (masquerade ball) , DirtyHand did not rave, does not have the Lions tame, and can break this alibi.

Did the Lions (a gang?) harm Natalee at this Rave party? DirtyHand was at this rave party, with the Elders and their kids, but DirtyHand doesn't do the drugs.

(I also now think the codetalker didn't get his/her Bible stories straight. Daniel was thrown in the Lions den...not David...as punishment for not bowing down to the King. Angels shut up the mouths of the Lions, who would have torn him to pieces...and only Daniel got out of the Lions Den alive...and we know that a Prince is a son of a King - and the Prince at that party (ball) was no Prince charming... I think this is the 'other son' also. One son late for school, the other son was on time...DirtyHand is the King, and it was his son who is a Lion...???) 

Here's the DdirtyHhand posts in one spot: 

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 10:18 pm
If the Alibi is broken by DirtyHand the walls of Babylon will shake.

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 10:37 pm
DirtyHand is not a child of Babylon. He holds the real key. The Arawaks fear his exposure. The house of babylon would tumble down on the teepees of the Arawaks. DirtyHand knows the cowboys will leave lootless. He can break the alibi.


Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:42 pm
Arawaks hold singing card from Babylon.  There is also a trio. One Babylonian. 2 Shivas. Arawaks can’t let babylonian Card sing because hand holding it dirty too. Many teepees fall. No Wampum. Cowboys eat Sacrifice. Arawaks eat sacrifice. Dirty hand stays hidden, but all are well-fed. Cowboys happy, but unrest in the halls of the palace. Babylon owes the Arawaks!

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:50 pm
If Babylonian Card sings, all will fall. Teepees and the house of Babylon. We must have a sacrifice. Hide dirty hand. Light the fires!

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:53 pm
If Babylonian card sings ALL will fall. Teepees and the house of Babylon. If cowboys stay, after the sacrifice, everyone see dirty hand. No Wampum, Many Moons. Light the fires.

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:55 pm
If cowboys see dirty hand, many teepees fall. House of Babylon falls. we must have a sacrifice to feed the cowboys. they go back to the fort with no loot.

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 5:32 m
The sacrifice is the correct food to appease the gods, arawaks, and cowboys but the foundations of the house of babylon will shake even harder if Arawak Dirty Hand is revealed

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 5:39 pm
Every tribe has bad Indians.  Every fort has bad cowboys.  If sirens sing a poison song, all will get sick.  Arawaks and cowboys working well.  Arawaks fear wrath of cowboys for DirtyHand.  But babylonians live in teepees too.  If the house of babylon is to remain erect, it must protect the babylonians who have lived in teepees, among the arawaks, for a long time. babylon will agree to a sacrifice of newer teepee dwellers to prevent the story of dirtyhand being made public.  Dirtyhand scares arawaks too.  the sacrifice will be the correct sacrifice to appease the gods and cowboys.  cowboys will leave without loot.

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 5:54 pm
The Arawaks are not going to sacrifice a scapegoat. Babylon needs to allow one sacrifice to keep DirtyHand hidden. Babylon scared of DirtyHand. Arawaks scared of DirtyHand. If sacrifice is made, teepees are safe, villagers and cowboys happy. If DirtyHand discovered, House of Babylon falls, Teepees crushed under great house

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 5:58 pm
Arawaks want to make cowboys happy. Babylonians want to maintain integrity of Great House.
Gods of the cowboys know there was a game in the great house, and so DirtyHand was discovered. But the sacrifice will be offered before dirty hand sings. He will return to babylon, broken but anonymous.

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 6:02 pm
The babylonians are to blame. The arawaks were worried about teepees and the cowboys. They did not bring DirtyHand into the Tribe! He will go back to babylon broken, after the sacrifice is eaten

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 6:04 pm
If DirtyHand sings, sacrifice will still be eaten. But there will be many more people at the feast, and the cowboys would resent the Arawaks for Babylons interference.

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 6:13 pm
His lordship did not bring the key, it does not exist. doors to eden remain closed. The arawaks hold the singing cards. They have the babylonian and 2 shivas. But the other card is dirty. Even if you play cards in the house of babylon as an arawak, you still have DirtyHand. If DirtyHand comes out of hiding, Babylon will fall and the cowboys will circle the wagons. DirtyHand can destroy the Arawaks and Babylon. Better to prepare the sacrifice quickly so the cowboys go home ….without the loot

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 6:19 pm
There are many DirtyHands among the Arawak, and so it has been for centuries.

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 6:28 pm
All preceding stated is verifiable.  DirtyHand is well known.  there will be a sacrifice.  the gods have been talking. the fires have been lit. the cowboys will go back to the fort without the loot
that is why they are preparing the sacrifice All fear DirtyHand. Arawaks and Babylon. I must go feed the messengers

Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 8:04 pm
The young Lamb der Sloot shall be the sacrifice for the Arawaks and the cowboys. All will sit around the fire and feast on scapegoat. The gods are talking. DirtyHand is alive and well.

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 8:25 pm
The Arawaks want the truth to come out. As long as DirtyHand is not found. Aruba is preserved and Babylon will pay the price. the gods know that the blame lies on Babylon. the cowboys will go back to the fort without the loot

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:19 pm
DirtyHand is not an Arawak. The singing card can not be played. The cowboys would circle the wagons. The arawaks are preparing the sacrifice. light the fires. the gods are talking.

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:32 pm
His lordship is there to preserve Babylon, not the elder. Remember dirtyhand.

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:35 pm
DirtyHand is not an Arawak. Many pioneers have settled with the tribe.

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:48 pm
The card of babylon was already played. if it sings, DirtyHand will bring down the Royal House on top of the Arawak Nation. the gods have handed down a pipe of peace, but a sacrifice will be made. Some elders of the game, not just of babylon walk in older circles. cowboys hear the singing, but the words are not understood. The gods and the babylonians are worried about the cowboys response.

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 8:27 pm
DirtyHand and the fallen judge may not be crucified. The gods are talking.

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:55 pm
DirtyHand walks with the elders. Babylon knows.

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:58 pm
DirtyHand knows the Babylonians that provided escort after the 2 shivas left.

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 10:04 pm
Are the children of the elders there, or did they flee to Babylon? DirtyHand knows, this is his Power. there will be 46 sacrifices.

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 10:16 pm
Mary was not a Virgin. The Arawaks know. The cowboys know. DirtyHand can break the Alibi, he walks all circles. The Simian knows this

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 10:18 pm
If the Alibi is broken by DirtyHand the walls of Babylon will shake.

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 10:30 pm
You always find forbidden desires in the small houses of Babylon. the girl knew this. Find DirtyHand! He too walked in this house of Babylon. But not to satiate desire. 

Shango Says:June 26th, 2005 at 10:48 pm
Coverups begin with elders and the founders of the houses of Babylon. Not the minions. DirtyHand knows this.

Shango Says:June 26th, 2005 at 10:53 pm
DirtyHand is the key. He walks with the elders. He walks in all houses. And he walked with the fallen elder. He was the hidden card that was played. now if he sings, babylon will fall on the arawak nation

Shango Says:June 26th, 2005 at 11:05 pm
DirtyHand has worked for the elders for a long time.

Shango Says:June 27th , 2005 at 9:44 pm
Babalu opened a window looking into babylon on his 12:31 A.M. Post  DirtyHand is alive.

Shango Says:June 27th , 2005 at 9:48 pm
Babalu knew who dirty hand was at half past 12


Shango Says:June 27th , 2005 at 9:51 pm
DirtyHand walks with the Babylons, the Arawaks and is consort to the fallen elder
The gods are talking.

Shango Says:June 27th , 2005 at 9:59 pm
DirtyHand can bring down all houses. DirtyHand is the key. His reach is long. He walks in all circles. consort to all, except for the gods. He knows the sacrifice is not responsible

Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 10:05 pm
The dice throwers know the maze of the rave and the fly that entered the trap. DirtyHand is the key. He walks in many circles.

Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 10:09 pm
Young Babylonians and Shivas do not build sand castles. DirtyHand knows this. Children of the Elders play in the maze, but DirtyHand is afraid to rave

Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 10:49 pm
The maze offers many hidden desires deflowerings of forbidden fruits. DirtyHand knows. So does the elder. The lamb is a scapegoat.

Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 10:52 pm
DirtyHand has walked through the maze. He knows of the forbidden fruit and the gardeners.

Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 11:18 pm
DirtyHand does not play with the lions. but he has entered the maze. the lamb is a scapegoat. DirtyHand knows. So does the Elder.

Shango Says:June 27th, 2005 at 11:26 pm
The Arawaks will not enter the maze unless the cowboys refuse the peace pipe. Follow the music, the lions are not tame. DirtyHand knows, so does the elder.

Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 11:43 pm
Mary rolled into the maze to play with lions but it was not a game. the lamb ran bleating afraid to walk through the maze. why don’t the arawaks ambush the lions? The cowboys don’t know. DirtyHand knows, but is afraid of the Arawak Nation. The gods are talking.

Shango Says: June 28th, 2005 at 12:39 am
The threadsurfers are opening the door to Babylon. Be careful of the lions. DirtyHand does not have them tamed but he can enter the den. Tell the cowboys.

Shango Says: June 28th, 2005 at 2:59 am
The Simian Doppleganger is upset because the arawak nation is hiding the truth from the cowboys. DirtyHand knows. Simian knows. The Simian stated for 2 days, the key would come from the hague the next day. Shango said no two times. Is Simian a DirtyHand too. Has the Simian played with the lions in the houses of ill-repute and poison notes where the innocent flies are lured? Has the Simian, primate that he is, fed with the other animals? Back ye fetid mongrel, as the 46th are you; delegate of the 7th level of inferno, not birthed, but spewed from the dark chasm of a nightmare!

Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 11:13 pm
Lucy spoke at 10:56 # Lucy Says: June 27th, 2005 at 10:56 pm
Someone said last night that Dirty Hand was somebody in the police.

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