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« Reply #640 on: July 02, 2008, 08:42:37 PM »

Interesting.

She resembles Freddy in the Glamourous shot. And she resembles Ernie in the shot with the big white shades.

imo.

You never cease to amaze me vms  Also imo. 



 

I can't wait for Mum to see that last name.  Shocked

That is the first time I have ever been able to attach the name to her even though we have thought forever she was Freddy's sister...

 

I have been popping in...thanks vms!!!!

Some are dropping it and some are picking it up!  The Arambatzis that is...

Some-one is going to have to lay it all out for me, name connections, Mothers, fathers, heck I may even need the grandparent's names, dob, country of birth!

That is the only way I am buying it....pics on the internet are just not going to do it...

Sharon...keep an eye on the concert thread the next couple of days..


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« Reply #641 on: July 02, 2008, 08:43:07 PM »

So Ernesto,Sasha and Freddy all use the name Arambatzis. But Freddy uses Zedan,Sasha uses Rodriguez and Ernesto uses Arambatzis 

Is that the mothers maiden name and her kids are tagged with the name also?
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« Reply #642 on: July 02, 2008, 08:43:21 PM »

Your a great sleuth VMS 

yeah she is!!! you don't know the half of it 

HI *******! cyclops
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« Reply #643 on: July 02, 2008, 08:46:51 PM »

Your a great sleuth VMS 

yeah she is!!! you don't know the half of it 

HI *******! cyclops

Well, thank you, Rob. 


Mum,
What do we need to convince you that they are all related? 
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« Reply #644 on: July 02, 2008, 08:49:37 PM »

Your a great sleuth VMS

yeah she is!!! you don't know the half of it 

HI *******! cyclops
Hi Smile WHat do you think of the vandersloots at MSU on Facebook? I use to see a avid reader of our forum from MSU.

I would hate to have her researching me,although I suspect she already has  j/k
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« Reply #645 on: July 02, 2008, 08:53:09 PM »

Your a great sleuth VMS

yeah she is!!! you don't know the half of it 

HI *******! cyclops
Hi Smile WHat do you think of the vandersloots at MSU on Facebook? I use to see a avid reader of our forum from MSU.

I would hate to have her researching me,although I suspect she already has  j/k

I'm a Michigan fan  GO BIG BLUE 
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« Reply #646 on: July 02, 2008, 08:56:16 PM »

So Ernesto,Sasha and Freddy all use the name Arambatzis. But Freddy uses Zedan,Sasha uses Rodriguez and Ernesto uses Arambatzis 

Is that the mothers maiden name and her kids are tagged with the name also?


Lilian is now Lilian Rodriguez, so maybe the two Arambatzis, according to Capsdatabase=2, are Sasha and Freddy! Wonder who Robbie is now? Zedan!

Vms, birth certificates, marriages licenses, or an official statement from the FBI!

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« Reply #647 on: July 02, 2008, 09:04:10 PM »

So Ernesto,Sasha and Freddy all use the name Arambatzis. But Freddy uses Zedan,Sasha uses Rodriguez and Ernesto uses Arambatzis 

Is that the mothers maiden name and her kids are tagged with the name also?


Lilian is now Lilian Rodriguez, so maybe the two Arambatzis, according to Capsdatabase=2, are Sasha and Freddy! Wonder who Robbie is now? Zedan!

Vms, birth certificates, marriages licenses, or an official statement from the FBI!



I don't think I can swing that. ROFL. 
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« Reply #648 on: July 02, 2008, 09:04:19 PM »

Vms...I can't see anything on the facebook...tells me to log in...

Only 24 views on the profile on the other site...must be new...

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« Reply #649 on: July 02, 2008, 09:09:06 PM »

So Ernesto,Sasha and Freddy all use the name Arambatzis. But Freddy uses Zedan,Sasha uses Rodriguez and Ernesto uses Arambatzis 

Is that the mothers maiden name and her kids are tagged with the name also?


Lilian is now Lilian Rodriguez, so maybe the two Arambatzis, according to Capsdatabase=2, are Sasha and Freddy! Wonder who Robbie is now? Zedan!

Vms, birth certificates, marriages licenses, or an official statement from the FBI!



I don't think I can swing that. ROFL. 

 

But if I could post a pic and was a little clever with a computer, I could post a pic of 'me' and my beautiful friends, on Scarborough Beach, W.A., and people would have a hard time proving it wasn't me...
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« Reply #650 on: July 02, 2008, 09:14:01 PM »

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,375561,00.html

excerpt:
But in an affidavit unsealed earlier in U.S. District Court in Burlington, the FBI said an unidentified teenager told investigators she was present on June 25 when Jacques, 42, tricked Brooke into thinking she was going to a party and took her to his Randolph home to be initiated into a sex ring.

Shango Says: June 28th, 2005 at 12:14 am
How those innocent young flies enter the trap with honey laden notes
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« Reply #651 on: July 02, 2008, 09:35:15 PM »

Vms...I can't see anything on the facebook...tells me to log in...

Only 24 views on the profile on the other site...must be new...



Oops, Sorry.

Zedan friends:

Natasha Zedan

Johnny Enrique Zedan

Virginia A. Rahn Zedán
Venezuela
 
Silvia Zedán
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« Reply #652 on: July 02, 2008, 09:45:29 PM »

Vms...I can't see anything on the facebook...tells me to log in...

Only 24 views on the profile on the other site...must be new...



Oops, Sorry.

Zedan friends:

Natasha Zedan

Johnny Enrique Zedan

Virginia A. Rahn Zedán
Venezuela
 
Silvia Zedán


Thanks vms...No Rebeca? SandraK said there was a Rebeca...LOL...and a Lissette in the US.

I wonder are they the Florida or Michigan Zedans...will check...
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« Reply #653 on: July 02, 2008, 09:57:25 PM »

Vms...I can't see anything on the facebook...tells me to log in...

Only 24 views on the profile on the other site...must be new...



Oops, Sorry.

Zedan friends:

Natasha Zedan

Johnny Enrique Zedan

Virginia A. Rahn Zedán
Venezuela
 
Silvia Zedán


Thanks vms...No Rebeca? SandraK said there was a Rebeca...LOL...and a Lissette in the US.

I wonder are they the Florida or Michigan Zedans...will check...

No, but Rebeca Zedan is a friend of Johnny Enrique Zedan,  Virginia A. Rahn Zedán, & Silvia Zedán, who are all friends of Sasha.
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« Reply #654 on: July 02, 2008, 10:03:41 PM »

Vms...I can't see anything on the facebook...tells me to log in...

Only 24 views on the profile on the other site...must be new...



Oops, Sorry.

Zedan friends:

Natasha Zedan

Johnny Enrique Zedan

Virginia A. Rahn Zedán
Venezuela
 
Silvia Zedán


Thanks vms...No Rebeca? SandraK said there was a Rebeca...LOL...and a Lissette in the US.

I wonder are they the Florida or Michigan Zedans...will check...

No, but Rebeca Zedan is a friend of Johnny Enrique Zedan,  Virginia A. Rahn Zedán, & Silvia Zedán, who are all friends of Sasha.


Must all be in Venezuela, quick search didn't turn up any of those here. Wonder if they only speak Pap...LOL...Good Night!
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« Reply #655 on: July 02, 2008, 10:44:37 PM »

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,375561,00.html

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But in an affidavit unsealed earlier in U.S. District Court in Burlington, the FBI said an unidentified teenager told investigators she was present on June 25 when Jacques, 42, tricked Brooke into thinking she was going to a party and took her to his Randolph home to be initiated into a sex ring.

Shango Says: June 28th, 2005 at 12:14 am
How those innocent young flies enter the trap with honey laden notes


Colombo, there is always a possibility Natalee was taken off that island in a drugged/drunken state thus the diversions. Maybe the honey laden notes was the party invitation. All the gamblers knew what was written down--they got the same party invite.

I found something interesting today - that a cave in Aruba has been closed since 1998 because a person went missing. (Amy Lynn Bradley went missing on March 24, 1998). Did the 'robed ones' escape thru passageways used 'ONCE BEFORE' (perhaps in 1998? ). Some websites state that Huliba Cave is the same cave as the Tunnel of Love cave; other websites list them as two separate caves. There's also a Shark Cave (she wanted to see sharks). Did Joran say 'sharks'  to divert everybody away from the real cave of the Rave, thinking that other party goers might talk?

cRave = Rave within a cave

I once read the H.I. was built on ontop of many tunnels. Sounds odd as they bury their dead above ground, but who knows. If there was a rave party in a cave, the H.I. tunnels could connect 'Babylon' (casino) with the 'maze of tunnels' under Aruba. So Babylon and Arawaks both are involved in whatever gets moved in and out of the tunnel system.

PLUS, remember laughing when someone posted that Natalee was DRIVEN to VZ? Who's to say there isn't a secret underground tunnel from Aruba to VZ? Heck, think of the Lincoln Tunnel connecting NJ and NY. And the Seikan tunnel in Japan is 53.85km (33 miles) long, with a 23.3km (14.6) mile section underwater. The Channel Tunnel, by comparison, is 31 miles long, 23 miles of which are underwater. VZ is only 15 mi from Aruba. Was this the great game played in the 'palace'? Smuggling drugs and arms into trampoline country, and why subs and F16s surrounded Aruba?

Choose-a name bouncer found tortured outside of a cave. Were drug lords ticked off cuz he gave Natalee the poison wine of Bacchus which in turn caused everybody to close in on their operation? Choose-a-Name bar burned down several times (not just this one time) and each time it was rebuilt in a DIFFERENT location. Didn't the J2K stop off at Choose-a-Name after they left C&C? What is being built where Choose-A-Name used to be in all these locations?

http://www.wysiwicked.com/encyclopedia/?title=Caves_Aruba

The Huliba Cave Closed since 1998 after one person went missing inside the cave never to be found
[/size][/i]Merian Ernest 7/26/05 3:51pm...The federales should be careful not to grease the palace floors. The robed ones will squeeze an escape through passageways used once before.[/b] 

Simian Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:27 pm ...There are many secrets, but the Arawaks are helping. The palace is open to all, but the palace is a maze to most.
 
http://www.showcaves.com/english/car/showcaves/Huliba.html
Huliba Grot (Huliba Cave) is a so called show cave, Aruban style. A staircase was built to access the cave, but the cave is not lighted and not closed. You may visit it on your own, some shops at the entrance offer torches and guides if you want. Helmets and flashlights can be rented for $6 at the entrance. The staircase leads down into a vast room, illuminated in part by daylight. From here a corridor leads to a small terminal chamber some 35m (approx 165 feet) lower down. Huliba Cave is also known as the tunnel of love. (or is it?)

- Answer lies on the whispering wind (stairway).
- The "palace" is a maze.
- Children of elders play in the maze.
- DirtyHand walked thru the maze.
- Dicethrowers know the maze of the rave.
- Dicemen go to music and entered the same maze
- Mary rolled into the maze.
- The lamb was afraid to go into the maze.
- Arawaks hide the path of the rave for the babylonians (casino owners)
- All the Arawaks know the Maze which plays the poison songs
- Why do they leave the Maze open? Why hasn’t an Arawak probed it’s fetid depths. Tell the Cowboys! --- The Arawaks are hiding the path to the Maze for the Babylonians.
- All know of the music beckoning lost souls to enter the seven levels of inferno. Who gave Mary the poison wine of Bacchus?  Enter the Maze.

Merian Ernest 7/19/05 3:04pm
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« Reply #656 on: July 02, 2008, 10:55:26 PM »

These caves are also interesting, the Caves in Seroe Colorado, located down by the Valero Refinery.

http://www.lago-colony.com/CAVES_OF_SEROE_COLORADO_IN_2006/SEROE_COLORADO_CAVES_IN_2006.htm
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« Reply #657 on: July 03, 2008, 12:05:22 AM »

Maybe her birthday is May 8th instead of July 5th? I assumed her birthday party was just before Natalee arrived in Aruba and not in July..What I did notice is they threw out some money for her 15th and the entire Van Der Sloot Family was there. The two Family's must be pretty close..MO

That whole family party thing is a little weird, can't make the connection! Along with the van der Sloot family being at Sasha's party, with Koen, Jaime, know I missed some-one!

I wonder what her father does for work? They either went all out for her 15th or are just loaded and treat her like a princess. The Mom doesn't seem to work either as she is a part of her own charitable group for kids. Things would get interesting if we found out Daury was directly related to this Family.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quincea%C3%B1era

The Quinceañera or Quince años is, in some Spanish-speaking regions of the Americas, a young woman's celebration of her fifteenth birthday, which is commemorated in a unique and different way from her other birthdays. It is sometimes represented XV Años, meaning "15 years." Only a few countries call the actual party "quinceañera."

Besides referring to the actual festivities, the word is also used to refer to the young woman whose 15th birthday is being celebrated (analogous to the word cumpleañera for "birthday girl"). The closest equivalents to the quinceañera in the English-speaking world are the sweet sixteen; Bar or Bat Mitzvah for Jewish children turning 13; cotillion; or, in more affluent communities, the debutante ball for those who turn 18.

http://www.decidio.com/local-businesses/invitations-aruba-florida-s47.html
These local professionals can also be found listed under: Aruba wedding invitations, Aruba party invitations, Aruba announcements, Aruba Invitations, Aruba Invitation, Aruba announcement, Aruba wedding invitation, Aruba wedding announcement, Aruba invitation printing, Aruba invitation printer, Aruba printing service, Aruba printing services, Aruba anniversary invitation, Aruba birthday invitation, Aruba party invitation, Aruba calligraphy, Aruba calligrapher, Aruba caligraphers, Aruba event invitations, Aruba calligraphy services, Aruba calligraphy service, Aruba hand calligraphy, Aruba laser calligraphy, Aruba custom printing, Aruba printer, Aruba anniversary, Aruba baby shower, Aruba baptism, Aruba bar mitzvah, Aruba bat mitzvah, Aruba birthday, Aruba bridal shower, Aruba christmas invitation, Aruba christmas party invitation, Aruba corporate event, Aruba engagement, Aruba quinceanera, Aruba reunion, Aruba prom, Aruba sweet sixteen, Aruba party, Aruba cheap wedding invitation, Aruba custom printing, Aruba wedding invitation wording

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« Reply #658 on: July 03, 2008, 12:16:32 AM »

These caves are also interesting, the Caves in Seroe Colorado, located down by the Valero Refinery.

http://www.lago-colony.com/CAVES_OF_SEROE_COLORADO_IN_2006/SEROE_COLORADO_CAVES_IN_2006.htm

PITA - GREAT PICS ON THAT LINK!  This one is entitled "the ladder down into the hole".

Could this pic be the "answer that lies on the whispering wind'?



Check this link out about sacrificing virgins:

http://www.weather.com/outlook/travel/vacationplanner/destination/attractions-aruba?from=vac_stateoverview

Indian Caves

Fontein Caves are inscribed with what guides tell you are Amerindian drawings, but it's also said that the markings were created for a much more recent movie filming. Guides also say that the natural caves were once used by Arawaks for shelter and sacrificing virgins. Guadirikiri and Huliba caves are less synthetic tourist attractions. The Indian Caves are found near Aruba's northeast coast.


Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 10:16 pm
Mary was not a Virgin. The Arawaks know. The cowboys know. DirtyHand can break the Alibi, he walks all circles.
The Simian knows this.

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 10:41 pm
even after a daughter gives birth to a grandchild, the father of the new mother will still claim his daughter is a virgin. All who enter the damned corridors of the houses of Babylon know the dangers that await. But the knowledge that they are forbidden is what makes them so pleasurable.

Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 10:29 pm 
Babylonians and Shivas do not play with sandcastles. Follow the music!  Mary who was not a Virgin entered the maze to discover it’s secrets. The lamb is scared. The fires are lit. But now the lamb is a goat.

Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 10:37 pm
The DiceMen must be questioned.  They to go to the Music and enter the same Maze. Mary who was not a virgin entered. The DiceMen ROLLED. Mary ROLLED.




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« Reply #659 on: July 03, 2008, 12:22:34 AM »

Maybe her birthday is May 8th instead of July 5th? I assumed her birthday party was just before Natalee arrived in Aruba and not in July..What I did notice is they threw out some money for her 15th and the entire Van Der Sloot Family was there. The two Family's must be pretty close..MO

That whole family party thing is a little weird, can't make the connection! Along with the van der Sloot family being at Sasha's party, with Koen, Jaime, know I missed some-one!

I wonder what her father does for work? They either went all out for her 15th or are just loaded and treat her like a princess. The Mom doesn't seem to work either as she is a part of her own charitable group for kids. Things would get interesting if we found out Daury was directly related to this Family.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quincea%C3%B1era

The Quinceañera or Quince años is, in some Spanish-speaking regions of the Americas, a young woman's celebration of her fifteenth birthday, which is commemorated in a unique and different way from her other birthdays. It is sometimes represented XV Años, meaning "15 years." Only a few countries call the actual party "quinceañera."

Besides referring to the actual festivities, the word is also used to refer to the young woman whose 15th birthday is being celebrated (analogous to the word cumpleañera for "birthday girl"). The closest equivalents to the quinceañera in the English-speaking world are the sweet sixteen; Bar or Bat Mitzvah for Jewish children turning 13; cotillion; or, in more affluent communities, the debutante ball for those who turn 18.

http://www.decidio.com/local-businesses/invitations-aruba-florida-s47.html
These local professionals can also be found listed under: Aruba wedding invitations, Aruba party invitations, Aruba announcements, Aruba Invitations, Aruba Invitation, Aruba announcement, Aruba wedding invitation, Aruba wedding announcement, Aruba invitation printing, Aruba invitation printer, Aruba printing service, Aruba printing services, Aruba anniversary invitation, Aruba birthday invitation, Aruba party invitation, Aruba calligraphy, Aruba calligrapher, Aruba caligraphers, Aruba event invitations, Aruba calligraphy services, Aruba calligraphy service, Aruba hand calligraphy, Aruba laser calligraphy, Aruba custom printing, Aruba printer, Aruba anniversary, Aruba baby shower, Aruba baptism, Aruba bar mitzvah, Aruba bat mitzvah, Aruba birthday, Aruba bridal shower, Aruba christmas invitation, Aruba christmas party invitation, Aruba corporate event, Aruba engagement, Aruba quinceanera, Aruba reunion, Aruba prom, Aruba sweet sixteen, Aruba party, Aruba cheap wedding invitation, Aruba custom printing, Aruba wedding invitation wording









Thanks Finn...had checked that out a while ago to make sure there even was such a thing...LOL

I am wondering about the van der Sloot's relationship or connection to Sasha Rodriguez, now to include Arambatzis, that Anita and her see thru blouse would have even been invited!

Vms...not buying it even more than I was a couple of hours ago! Recently Sasha adds some pages, including the name Arambatzis....

The Zedans are multiplying and it is all happening in front of our very eyes on the internet!

I think somebody is watching, and it may not be big brother....

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