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MumInOhio
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #4
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July 11, 2008, 01:05:23 AM »
Quote from: finngirl on July 10, 2008, 08:19:32 PM
as for reading FP posts re freddy's arrest:
scratch that ... they don't exist
were they removed?
there are about 7 robo posts
and the notice: "comments closed"
WTF?
Finn...These were the ones that were lost! We will have to go to RWV and read! If I can find the right page I will post the link!
Thanks klaas!
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klaas: thanks for the response
but jeez, what a bummer
Mum: found this link/reading now
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2005/08/page/5/
same comments we've made lately
re difficulty w/ how the names work/etc
re bon dia = chemaly ...
is that in reference to newspaper or posting nic?
I'm lost again, obviously
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Quote from: MumInOhio on July 10, 2008, 11:30:26 PM
Just dawned on me ... LOL
The Noble Son of the Sun Breaking Through...
http://www.bondia.com/
Good One Mum... that is it fer sure.
Bon Dia - Good Day / Morning - said in the morning. This could be said at any point of the day, but it usually only said in the morning as other terms are applied to the rest of the day.
Bon Tardi - Good Afternoon - said after mid day.
Bon Nochi - Good Night - said after dinner, dark or before bed.
Breaking Sun = Morning Sun.
Noble Son of Breaking Sun = John Chemaly Jr.
Good job Mum, that is
definitely
it. I'm convinced you are right.
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July 11, 2008, 08:29:10 AM »
Quote from: finngirl on July 11, 2008, 02:50:25 AM
klaas: thanks for the response
but jeez, what a bummer
Mum: found this link/reading now
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2005/08/page/5/
same comments we've made lately
re difficulty w/ how the names work/etc
re bon dia = chemaly ...
is that in reference to newspaper or posting nic?
I'm lost again, obviously
Finn...Thanks...So this is all we have left from the FP?...Thanks for saving it! Thanks for the link...will look around at some other Forums...looking for the Aruban agenda...
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2768.0
Re: We Forgot We Knew « Reply #7 on: April 03, 2008, 07:29:49 AM »
Fri Aug 26, 2005
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Quote from: Rob on July 11, 2008, 07:48:13 AM
Quote from: MumInOhio on July 10, 2008, 11:30:26 PM
Just dawned on me ... LOL
The Noble Son of the Sun Breaking Through...
http://www.bondia.com/
Good One Mum... that is it fer sure.
Bon Dia - Good Day / Morning - said in the morning. This could be said at any point of the day, but it usually only said in the morning as other terms are applied to the rest of the day.
Bon Tardi - Good Afternoon - said after mid day.
Bon Nochi - Good Night - said after dinner, dark or before bed.
Breaking Sun = Morning Sun.
Noble Son of Breaking Sun = John Chemaly Jr.
Good job Mum, that is
definitely
it. I'm convinced you are right.
Thanks Rob and Good Morning...Lala's keeps telling us it is not that difficult.
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July 11, 2008, 08:37:28 AM »
Quote from: BUCKSHOT on July 10, 2008, 05:25:06 PM
Posted back near page 22 of this thread:
I am at 100% on Simian now.
Michel Clermon / Armin Solognier
_____________________________
Anyway to speak to these people (if still alive...)
Hi Buckshot
...nice to see you here...
Armin/Simian/Merian/Michel is still alive and kicking...LOL
Here is where the conversation started in thread 3, where he was discovered...LOL...I think there are posts about through page 41.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2787.440
Reply #442 on: April 21, 2008, 08:39:55 AM »
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Quote from: MumInOhio on July 10, 2008, 11:30:26 PM
Just dawned on me ... LOL
The Noble Son of the Sun Breaking Through...
http://www.bondia.com/
Morning Monkeys!
I'm not up on shango but, the first thing that came to my mind with the above phrase is:
The Noble Son of the Sun Breaking through =
The Noble Son of the Don (dawn)
Not sure if this makes any sense or fits in any way. May be too simplistic.
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Hi can & Buckshot. Glad to see you both over here.
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Noticed these while looking around the chamber...
Mrs. Dompig
CHITA'S LOTERY
http://www.arubachamber.com/registry/registry_result.afp?KeyValue=35098
Boeti
NAAR WATERSPORTS
http://www.arubachamber.com/registry/registry_result.afp?KeyValue=6130
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Quote from: vms on July 11, 2008, 10:26:05 AM
Hi can & Buckshot. Glad to see you both over here.
Hi can...nice to see you!
Up early for being here late last night...vms
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Quote from: MumInOhio on July 11, 2008, 10:31:44 AM
Quote from: vms on July 11, 2008, 10:26:05 AM
Hi can & Buckshot. Glad to see you both over here.
Hi can...nice to see you!
Up early for being here late last night...vms
Yes we are!
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Quote from: vms on July 11, 2008, 10:37:16 AM
Quote from: MumInOhio on July 11, 2008, 10:31:44 AM
Quote from: vms on July 11, 2008, 10:26:05 AM
Hi can & Buckshot. Glad to see you both over here.
Hi can...nice to see you!
Up early for being here late last night...vms
Yes we are!
Hi back to you vms and MuminO!
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #4
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Reply #852 on:
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Quote from: MumInOhio on July 11, 2008, 08:31:07 AM
Quote from: Rob on July 11, 2008, 07:48:13 AM
Quote from: MumInOhio on July 10, 2008, 11:30:26 PM
Just dawned on me ... LOL
The Noble Son of the Sun Breaking Through...
http://www.bondia.com/
Good One Mum... that is it fer sure.
Bon Dia - Good Day / Morning - said in the morning. This could be said at any point of the day, but it usually only said in the morning as other terms are applied to the rest of the day.
Bon Tardi - Good Afternoon - said after mid day.
Bon Nochi - Good Night - said after dinner, dark or before bed.
Breaking Sun = Morning Sun.
Noble Son of Breaking Sun = John Chemaly Jr.
Good job Mum, that is
definitely
it. I'm convinced you are right.
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Thanks Rob and Good Morning...Lala's keeps telling us it is not that difficult.
Good job, Mum. I'm convinced as well that you are dead on. It's so funny every time I would read that passage, Noble Son of Sun breaking through....and we discussed flags etc. I kept thinking "Ive seen a Sun somewhere" ..........Can't believe it was on that RAG Bon Dia. But it was, that's where I saw it!
Good job, MUM!
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Mum, let's not forget (not that you did) but this place is called Caribbean Palm Beach (IIRC), and partially owned by the Chemaly's. That was found by Pita or vms.
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if you would all please re-look at the maps above - you will certainly see that this scenario points directly to the Gottenbos. As you can see the suspects have left the Matty Apartments or the Caribbean Palm Beach and have departed for the racquet club and have been spotted by the gardener @ 2:30 - 3 am.I believe it would be 3 am and not 2:30am.
The suspects are awaiting Koen or Alexander Gottenbos to arrive with the boat or the keys to the boat. Most likely just the keys as described by the guy that that wrote the book about Deepak (Mind-Hunter). They can not quite yet take the risk of moving Natalee down to the beach yet, due to the observation of the fisherman or others who might see them. I now believe
based on this scenario
(only) that Natalee was deceased by 3 am and disposed of shortly there after. Natalee was most likely in the backseat of the car or in the truck where blood turned into rust from a barrel.
As the suspects are awaiting Koen, he will be arriving from the North in Malmok. His drive to this area is roughly 8-12 minutes max. More likely 8. Koen then meets the suspects - at the beach area somewhere in the vicinity north of the fisherman's huts. It could be that he went and got the boat docked at the Marriott and then departed north to the area where the suspects where waiting. This could even include Deepak's peeing comment at Arashi.
- jmo -
but something to think about.
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so, how did Satish get home?
he used Freddy's car or the car that Freddy used to get to the Matty Apartments or the Caribbean Palm Beach. Not everyone could fit in Deepak's Honda with Joran and Natalee in the back seat. Freddy, Deepak and Joran were in the Honda when spotted by the gardener. Satish began the alibi at 2:20 am or so, and that is more likely 3:20 am as the clocks were tampered with. The clock was changed to allow Satish an alibi. He could not have been at the Matty Apartment or the Caribbean Palm Beach and at home at the same time.
Deepak upon arrival home discovered that and changed the clock. Deepak then used SMS to Chat up John Charles Croes and to establish an alibi for himself.
So, to summarize. The suspects and Natalee did stop at the Sloots @ 1:40 am (that is true), and they could have gone in but did not stay there long (as possibly described by Beth - she said she knew Natalee was there, but never said that was where the assault took place) and they proceeded to the Matty Apartments or the Caribbean Palm Beach.
again, this is all just my opinion based on the sighting of the gardener and the fact the the suspect travel north.
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Rob - did you catch the Zedan/Chemaly family link? Go back a few pages. I think Freddy and John are cousins.
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Rob....Thanks
...I will take a good look at it all. What about Sander, you don't think it could have been him? I am recalling an additional arrest in the Netherlands when Guido was taken it and the comments a little while back, by one of our Dutch posters that he was kicked of the soccer team, because of this? TIA
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Quote from: SS on July 11, 2008, 03:25:02 PM
Rob - did you catch the Zedan/Chemaly family link? Go back a few pages. I think Freddy and John are cousins.
yes ma'am I did catch it... believe it or not - it actually made sense to me
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Quote from: MumInOhio on July 11, 2008, 03:28:28 PM
Rob....Thanks
...I will take a good look at it all. What about Sander, you don't think it could have been him? I am recalling an additional arrest in the Netherlands when Guido was taken it and the comments a little while back, by one of our Dutch posters that he was kicked of the soccer team, because of this? TIA
Mum, he fits in somewhere - eventually we'll find out where.
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