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« Reply #900 on: July 12, 2008, 11:51:31 AM »

Does anyone know who the girl in the front is, wearing the blue dress?
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« Reply #901 on: July 12, 2008, 01:40:14 PM »

Does anyone know the name of Renfro's boyfriend and if he was the boyfriend that she would have had back in 2005 or 2003?
I believe the name is Patrick Boset. I remember hearing that the relationship ended. I don't know who her current boyfriend is or if she has one...

He's very nice looking.

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« Reply #902 on: July 12, 2008, 05:48:35 PM »

 
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« Reply #903 on: July 12, 2008, 07:20:15 PM »

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« Reply #904 on: July 12, 2008, 07:27:43 PM »






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MICHAEL
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« Reply #905 on: July 12, 2008, 08:47:36 PM »

Somewhere, there is a night shot of two guys, standing in front of a white pickup, labeled bangbuss.  I think the guy on the right might be Michael.



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« Reply #906 on: July 12, 2008, 08:58:27 PM »

Somewhere, there is a night shot of two guys, standing in front of a white pickup, labeled bangbuss.  I think the guy on the right might be Michael.



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bruce y ami ,chill dilanti royal plaza cu mi Bang Buss



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« Reply #907 on: July 13, 2008, 08:54:24 AM »

Just a quick drive by from me 

I've tried to see what I can come up with for Chemaly in Miami -- and other than the 'myspace' stuff -- this is it 

I don't even know if this is the correct Chemaly family -- but I KNOW we have super detectives here.....

Any of the 'subscriptions' I have online are for 'public companies' and strangely -- this one is a private company. 

ANYONE???? (sorry if already discussed)



Company Profile
Updated: 08-JUL-08

Chemaly and Sons Inc.
Private Company, Headquarters Location
268 NE 68th St., Miami, FL, United States
(305)751-3353,

Primary SIC: Bottled & Canned Soft Drinks, Primary NAICS: Soft Drink Manufacturing
Description: Manufacturing: Bottled & Canned Soft Drinks


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« Reply #908 on: July 13, 2008, 12:02:14 PM »






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MICHAEL

Kermit - I think that might be a different Michael than the one with the belt around his neck.
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« Reply #909 on: July 13, 2008, 01:13:04 PM »

Ms. Klassend,

Michael pic - agree with you.
A different Michael. I think he is in other pics with the guys.

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« Reply #910 on: July 13, 2008, 11:02:05 PM »

In Nov. of 2004, 6 members of Joran's school (ISA) attended the "South American Model United Nations" in Caracas, Venezuela. (SAMUN)

The students were: Joran and Valentijn van der Sloot, Susana de la Oliva, Larissa Bermudez (one of the pretty girls that Joran had pictured on his webpage before it was removed), Michael Pochettino, and Hiram Vrolijk
//websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=684526&postcount=243
(I broke the link because I wasn't sure if it was okay to post a link to another site)

 
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« Reply #911 on: July 14, 2008, 06:40:58 AM »

Somewhere, there is a night shot of two guys, standing in front of a white pickup, labeled bangbuss.  I think the guy on the right might be Michael.



David Wever on right

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« Reply #912 on: July 14, 2008, 08:54:55 AM »

Posted by Poochy….

JORAN TELLS HIS TWO FRIENDS HE'LL BE AT C&C LATER THAT NIGHT

JORAN 6/9/05 STATEMENT:

"...After that the group of girls walked to the Sportsbar. In the Sportsbar I also saw to two acquaintances who were watching baseball. I greeted my two acquaintances and told them that I was doing fine too and that I would be going to "Carlos & Charlies" that night. My two acquaintances are named "Luis" and "Joshua". I regularly meet them at Carlos & Charlies. The last name of Luis is "BETANCOURT". I do not know the last name of Joshua. Luis BETANCOURT is a Venezuelan and according to me Joshua is Colombian but I don't know that for sure. After that I walked next to the group of girls and they said to me that I should not forget to go to Carlos & Charlies.
 

Posted this before…I believe this is Freddy, Venezuelan, and Jaime, Columbian. There is just no way that Joran went to C&Cs two nights in a row, without his 2 buddies that he hung around the hotels and C&Cs with ALL the time.

Lots in Joran’s book and in the PVs about Joran’s good buddy Freddy, how they hang out at the beach and the hotels, try to chat up the tourists, and frequent Carlos and Charlies. Jaime said Joran called him at one time and Joran another, was this to meet at the Holiday Inn, not Carlos and Charlies?


http://www.hollowaycase.com/archive/police_documents/caceres617.htm

Jaime’s 6/17 PV

"My friends and acquaintances call me "Beto". I have known Joran since August 2004. Through the man named "Freddy Zedan" I met with Joran. One day I went to Joran's house with Freddy and since then we kept in contact. Usually Joran, Freddy, Koen, Sander and me go out together. Joran's nickname is "Jojo", Freddy's nickname is "Fefi", Koen's nickname is "Cul" and Sander's nickname is "Nepi". The places we usually go out to are "Carlos & Charlies", "Bahia", Tandra", "Cinema" and the beach near the big hotels. A place we regularly visit is "Carlos & Charlies".

To your question whether I drive a car, my answer to you is yes. I drive a green Honda Civic, made in 1997 or 1998. I cannot remember the plate-number right now but it is registered to my big brother named "Miguel Angel CARRASQUILIA CACERES".

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On May 29th 2005, between the hours of 16.00 and 19.00, I was called by Joran on my mobile phone with the phone number "*******".



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« Reply #913 on: July 14, 2008, 08:58:03 AM »

For Finngirl….

Deepak’s 6/11 PV

To your question whether I know if Joran told the story to someone else, than I can say the following. I know Joran told his story to his friend named Freddy ZEDAN. Freddy lives behind Joran. His mobile phone number is in my mobile phone.

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« Reply #914 on: July 14, 2008, 12:00:23 PM »

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« Reply #915 on: July 14, 2008, 03:32:51 PM »

From the archives...

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2083.msg274368#msg274368


Reply #644 on: August 29, 2007, 06:24:41 PM » Kermit

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NOT IN POSSESION OF A BUSINESS ESTABLISHMENT LICENCE 
   
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Born in  THE NETHERLANDS, GOIRLE on 28 DECEMBER 1967 
Nationality  DUTCH 
Position  MANAGING DIRECTOR 
Effective  14 MAY 2002 
Authority  FULL 
   
RENFRO, JULIA CHRISTINE; 
Residing in  SALINA CERCA 39-H, NOORD, ARUBA 
Born in  U.S.A., CALIFORNIE on 30 AUGUST 1966 
Nationality  AMERICAN 
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This blog is now dedicated to correcting the mis- information being distributed by Dan Riehl. IMHO and research, Dan is fed his information from Julia Renfro of Aruba-Today a special friend of the VanDerSloot family. It is no surprise that they are trying to turn public opinion into believing that Joran is innocent and Natalee is at least partially to blame for her own demise with the old SODDI defense. Julia and her staff contacted many blogs and forum owners immediately to be an inside source.
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Bringing this forward in hopes that Kermit will see it and help us out...TIA...Kermit

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« Reply #916 on: July 14, 2008, 11:00:33 PM »

I was looking at the 'fake' Simian's posts again in light of what was discovered about the swapped Kalpoe automobile. One thing that always bothered me was the CONSTANT reference that the Kalpoe's KNEW NOTHING, and the many mentions about how ludicrious it is to even think Natalee was taken for sex slavery.

I beleive Kalpoes are very guilty, otherwise they would be talking defending their innocense.  I grouped some info together for what it's worth. Sorry for a lengthy post, but it's late and I'm signing off soon. BTW, does anybody know who the 'fake Simian' poster was? (mama kalpoe perhaps?)

KALPOES NO NOTHING:
Simian Says: June 24th, 2005 at 3:54 pm
I can confirm they are there. The 3 of them. Remember the Kalpoes know nothing they were informed aournd the pool deck by Joran.

Simian Says: June 24th, 2005 at 4:02 pm
The Kalpoes have nothing to spill. They don’t what the father did. Only Joran knows why he called his Dad in the middle of the night.

Simian Says: June 25th, 2005 at 7:41 pm
Kalpoes went home. Joran stayed behind. Somebody had to come get him.

Simian Says: June 25th, 2005 at 7:50 pm
Only one piece is missing. Around the pool the Hindus were told what to say. They did not know why. They were asked to protect the boy. The father was not there, but he knew what to do. The Hindus thought the girl would reappear.

Simian Says: June 25th, 2005 at 8:21 pm
The Simian knows the Babylonians. They need to plan the legal checkmate perfectly. They know that the elder knows his way around the palace. All gates need to be shut. The Hindus don’t know that the elder knows what happened. The though they did the boy a favor by protecting him. The Hindus don’t know what happened.

SEX SLAVERY:

Simian Says: June 17th, 2005 at 5:08 pm
Why would anybody take this girl for the purpose of Sex Slavery? If you look up where Aruba is you will notice our proximity to South America. A lot of pretty girls and a lot of poverty. Why take an North American girl and sell her in Colombia?


Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 2:40 pm
Prostitution is not legal. The brothels we have are “tolerated” within certain parameters of the law. Such parameters include that the girls have to be checked for health before they come to Aruba and once a week once they are on Aruba. We do not take any women fron anywhere. They are here on their own and can leave whenever they want to during the three months. Besides that what economic sense does it make to take an American girl, while there are thousands of girls on the South American main land willing to COME to Aruba. People don’t just dissappear. And if Amy Bradley was the last girl to dissappear in Aruba and Natalee after 7 years, I would say that these human traffickers really suck. By the way This thing will be solved. Maybe after this all the North Americans bashing Aruba here should focus on Chondra Levy. Nobody knows what happened to her and it’s been awhile. Maybe you can start a “Boycott Central Park” on-line petition.

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 2:50 pm
I don’t think the sex slave trade is anything at all possible. If Aruba were to be part of a sex-slave ring…we really DO SUCK at that. I mean the last person to disappear was a junkie in 1998

Simian Says: June 24th, 2005 at 5:36 pm
TexasBelle you American Imperialist mind is wrapped around it’s own greatness. Now if the Houston Chronicle were as big as Le Monde than I would be impressed. If you in North America think it’s silly that she might have travelled back to the US. It also seems silly to us in Aruba that she was sold into slavery.

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TWO FATHERS, TWO BOYS - 2AM/4PM PHONE CALL - ONE ON TIME FOR SCHOOL, THE OTHER ONE LATE FOR SCHOOL:

crs Says: June 24th, 2005 at 3:17 pm
Sim - when you speak of this boy I think everyone thinks you are talking about Joran but your not are you - you are talking about this other individual.

Big Pappy Says: June 24th, 2005 at 3:22 pm
Simian, you’re freaking me out now, alot of us think the boy ain’t right but what are you saying? So much stuff on him? History we don’t know about?

Simian Says: June 24th, 2005 at 3:31 pm
The father was confronted with evidence. Can’t confirm if it’s from the cars of the house. They needed this to make him talk.

Simian Says: June 23rd, 2005 at 3:05 pm
If you were asleep who answered your phone?

Simian Says: June 23rd, 2005 at 3:09 pm
You can’t remember answering a phone call at 2:00 in the morning? When the next day your son was picked up?

Simian Says: June 23rd, 2005 at 3:10 pm
Father is a suspect of the disappearance.

Simian Says: June 24th, 2005 at 5:49 pm
The phone call to the father was made at 4:00 in the morning. No wonder he was late for school.

Simian Says: June 24th, 2005 at 6:06 pm
I ponder the evidence of sex and drugs with the father. It was to hard for her and she could not handle the pressure. I am done. I am leaving now…..

AllyinMiami Says: June 27th, 2005 at 12:38 pm
The cowboys have their feet deep in the dirty water. They are confident in their equipment. Babylonians are there to pick up when necessary. From Montana to Moko there is not much to walk  [SO WHO LIVES IN MOKO?]

THREE VEHICLES:

Simian Says:June 25th, 2005 at 6:47 pm
There are 3 vehicles.

Simian Says: June 25th, 2005 at 7:36 pm
In the other car.

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:33 pm
Simian, His Lordship did not bring the key found in the car, it did not exist The arawaks can’t open the door Hope lies with the cowbous, but the posse was too late Eden is still distant


Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:18 pm
Simian, why was the key from the Babylons Palace not used to open the Sumerians Door ? They have become famished and Eden is beckoning…. [COULD THIS BE A SUMERIAN CAR DOOR?]

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:26 pm
Simian, his lordship did not bring the expected key the door never existed. Eden is distant


Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 6:13 pm
His lordship did not bring the key, it does not exist. doors to eden remain closed.
The arawaks hold the singing cards. They have the babylonian and 2 shivas. But the other card is dirty.

ABC News:
BLOOD WAS FOUND IN THE TRUNK OF THE CAR.

Diario Newspaper
human blood sample found in a car at the residence of one of the teens in custody

FBI and Several Aruban Police officers
FBI: Told the Family there was Blood was all over the Kalpoe car.
Art Wood, a retired Secret Service agent helping the Holloway family investigate the case, said: "That blood was sent to Holland and it came back as being cleaning fluid and chocolate. That's what the test results show. But an Aruban police officer who worked on the investigation told me there was definitely blood in that car. I think the wrong sample was deliberately sent to Holland.






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« Reply #917 on: July 15, 2008, 08:21:15 AM »

"DJ" = Dennis Jacobs (and not DJ Steve Croes?)
Younger VDS = Younger Van der Straten?
 

ShocktheMonkey on June 25th, 2005 9:08 pm
To my faithful believers:

This may be my last post. But I’ll tell you what’s going on. The younger VDS did it. No admission of guilt yet, but witnesses to prove. Awaiting DNA results to confirm will be soon. Two more possible arrests. DJ was the “Vessel”. Sorry for cryptic message, but my job is on the line. Still I remain true to you bloggers and the truth shall set us free. A mystery is only as mysterious as the mind allows it to be. Sometimes the truth is right in front of your face

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« Reply #918 on: July 15, 2008, 12:53:01 PM »

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OWNERS/PARTNERS 
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Residing in  RUBY 72, NOORD, ARUBA 
Born in  ARUBA on 13 DECEMBER 1964 
Nationality  DUTCH 
Position  OWNER 
Effective  5 NOVEMBER 2007 
Authority  FULL 
   
PONSON-REPPAS, ANGELINA
Residing in  RUBY 72, NOORD, ARUBA 
Born in  THE NETHERLANDS, NIJMEGEN on 23 APRIL 1976 
Nationality  DUTCH 
Position  PROXY 
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Authority  FULL 
   
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Outside (balcony)there will be a DJ lounge.
You can win dinners that night,the beer will be green and a lot of fun giveaways at the entrance,And free "patty shots" for everybody.
The tickets are already for sale at Kildares for Afl 10.
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« Reply #919 on: July 15, 2008, 04:53:18 PM »

I found this one post interesting. Note the comment date is 2/15/08, however "Rhonda" says this happened when it was first reported that Natalee went missing back in 2005.

http://tinyurl.com/6bhbs9

Comment by Rhonda
February 15th, 2008 at 11:34 pm
I want to comment on something that has been bothering me since the moment it was reported that Natalie Holloway was missing. The evening that the story came on Fox News - and I’m almost positive that it was on Greta’s show, during the talk of the commentator, I was reading the words that are printed at the bottom of the screen (I don’t know what you call it but it’s the news that flashes across the screen 24/7).. During the broadcast, it was printed on the bottom of the screen something to the effect that Joran Vandersloot confessed to her death by accident. I read it and then read it again and then it changed…

Let me explain…. The news that flashes at the bottom of the screen will go through a cycle. Once however many news headings appear, the cycle begins again. In the case with the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, if I remember correctly, her ‘accident’ statement flashed by maybe twice - meaning two cycles. After that, the next reports at the bottom of the screen had to do with her disappearance again and that was the last time that it mentioned Joran’s confession of her accident.

My first thought was that someone within the Aruban government spoke too soon and was told to shut up. Then it was as though he/she never said anything and it never happened. I sent an e-mail around that time to Fox to question it but never received an answer. Unfortunately, that was nearly 3 years ago and I can’t recall the exact language or the exact number of times it cycled. Having said that, I will never forget the meaning because I’ve thought about it repeatedly for nearly 3 years.
Another consideration that I’ve had and while I hate to use a stereotypical description, I wasn’t completely surprised to see this happen, that is, the announcement and then the disappearance of the announcement as though it never happened. Several years ago I worked for a Dutch company and someone within the company made a press/customer release regarding a part of the business that was sold. The employee was not supposed to make the release at the time and it was removed and treated as though it never happened. It absolutely disappeared. If a customer called to inquire about what they read they were told that it didn’t exist. It was just as bizarre only a young girl’s life wasn’t at stake and a family wasn’t tortured.

After Natalee’s father’s book was published a year or so ago, I sent a letter to him with these same concerns but never heard a response. Now when Joran is video taped discussing of how he watched her collapse, have a seizure and possible die, I felt compelled to bring this up again. I don’t know if anyone else recalls seeing the first reports and if so, if they ever wondered why within less than around 5 minutes the news completely changed and disappeared. I’ve also wondered if there were ever any tapes saved of the print that cycled that evening.

Furthermore, it makes more and more sense now when Joran talks about Natalee having seizures, given the fact that her family was questioned about her health and her potential for seizures. The story never changed since the first hour - it was only erased.
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