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« Reply #1140 on: August 03, 2008, 05:19:09 PM »

Shango has now made three posts directed at Simian, with no response.  His fourth post is a question:

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:18 pm
Simian, why was the key from the Babylons Palace not used to open the Sumerians Door ?
They have become famished and Eden is beckoning….


Simian has been posting about a package from the Hague.  Shango is baiting Simian because he seems to know that nothing will be revealed about evidence from the Hague.  He implies that this lack of information from the 'package' Simian tells everyone will come is now hurting the locals on Aruba.  I believe Shango uses Eden as a reference to the "Garden of Paradise"...One Happy Island.  This whole thing has been bad for the island and Simian is not helping matters.

Simian still has not taken the bait.  Shango keeps trying:

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:26 pm
Simian, his lordship did not bring the expected key
the door never existed
Eden is distant


Shango implies that there never was to be any information to be revealed from the Hague.  The return of "One Happy Island" was not about to happen. 
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« Reply #1141 on: August 03, 2008, 05:21:09 PM »

Babalu knew who dirty hand was

DityHand????
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« Reply #1142 on: August 03, 2008, 05:21:56 PM »

DirtyHand=link between dirty hand and pimps
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« Reply #1143 on: August 03, 2008, 05:31:13 PM »

Simian begins to nibble:

Simian Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:27 pm
The cowboys have only so much gold.
The territory is rough.
There are many secrets, but the Arawaks are helping.
The palace is open to all, but the palace is a maze to most.


Simian now counters Sumerians with the term Arawaks and paints them in a good light.  They are helping the cowboys.  This is Simian at his most cryptic to date.  He mentions a palace and maze.  Now...does palace refer to The Hague?  Is The Hague really open to all?  I don't think it is even though it is the location of the "World Court" so to speak.  I think palace in this post refers to the court system of Aruba.  While the courts are available to all on Aruba, not everyone understands how the system works...especially foreigners.  This can be a disadvantage to the foreigners seeking justice using the confusing system (maze).

Shango tugs on the line a bit:

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:30 pm
Simian, his lordship did not bring the key for the Arawaks  So it will remain “cowboys and indians” The posse was too late


Shango is telling Simian that he was either dead wrong or he has been leading people on with his claim that evidence from The Hague will answer many questions.  Shango all but implies that Arawaks are the indians because Simian implies that the Arawaks are helping the cowboys.  But Shango seems to think it is too late.
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« Reply #1144 on: August 03, 2008, 05:39:56 PM »

Simian backs away a bit.  His next post tries to separate the Babylonians from the judicial process.

Simian Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:31 pm
The Babylonians don’t hold the hammer nor the block.
They are running out of options.


Simian seems to imply that the Babylonians (which I believe refers to those who seem to run things on the island...the Dutch and the political party leaders along with the casino owners) cannot control the judicial system...which we all know is not true.  In fact, the Babylonians actully had all the options from the very beginning.  They did influence the judges as we all saw in the following months.
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« Reply #1145 on: August 03, 2008, 05:55:41 PM »

Afer this Simian takes a break from posting for about half an hour.  He comes back with this post:

Simian Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:04 pm
The wire has been shaken. The bird has left.


While he was "away" Shango continued:

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:33 pm
Simian, His Lordship did not bring the key found in the car, it did not exist
The arawaks can’t open the door Hope lies with the cowbous,
but the posse was too late Eden is still distant

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:37 pm
Why don’t the Arawaks to play the Babylonian Card ?
The posse is far from the fort and the loot is gone
The indians can’t count on the cowboys
The arawaks need to audition the singing card

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:40 pm
The key does not exist
The Arawaks knew Babylonian involvement would prove futile
That is why the cowboys left the fort and a searching with the indians

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:43 pm
The fallen judge agreed to sing because he can hum any tune
He needs to sing for his son, or see the end of his babylonian offspring

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:45 pm
Shango is not limited to any location, orixas are his messengers

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:49 pm
Elder needs to sing to preserve his lineage
To agree to remain silent is to agree not to hum any tune
The Arawaks are desperate, they fear for the tribe, they do not want war with the cowboys
But the loot remains hidden
And the Arawaks keep their singing card hidden as well
The fallen judge and the singing card are of the same hand, but it is dangerous for the Arawaks to play it, because everyone would hear, including the cowboys

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:57 pm
The Arawaks may not need to play the singing card
The cowboys won’t hear the music and the teepees will be safe
Wampum is needed as the doors closed on Eden


Did Shango shake the wire?
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« Reply #1146 on: August 03, 2008, 06:25:38 PM »

While Shango is composing this post:

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:12 pm
Cowboys must behave in Indian territory
The arawaks need pemmican, they have been without wampum, 1 Moon
The Arawaks keep the singing card
One singing Babylonian and two Hindu chanters are enough
His lordships presence guarantees a trio
The key to edens door did not exist
The refrain has already begun


Simian provides this defense of the system:

Simian Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:10 pm
The system is built so that innocent are always protected. One shred of doubt is enough to thrown a case out.

Simian Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:11 pm
The system is built so that the innocent are always protected. One shred of doubt is enough to thrown a case out.



Shango responds with:

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:14 pm
Simian your Dopple has resumed position
Bird on the wire


No one has posted as Simian during this time.  We have often thought Shango's reference to Dopple (short for doppleganger) meant someone else posting as Simian.  But...the actual definition is a ghostly double or counterpart of a living person.  I believe Shango was referring to whoever it was that was telling Simian what to say.

Simian does not post again until 9:27 pm.  For over five hours Shango holds the attention of audience for the early evening hours.  Could Simian be in a "strategy session" during this time?
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« Reply #1147 on: August 03, 2008, 08:01:41 PM »

Arawaks often go to play in small houses of babylon with offspring of the elders=

dirty hand

Babalu's "official corps".......DirtyHand is link, has long reach.....to "long arm"

I understand now.  Now, how would Babalu, who is not in Aruba, know about this? 
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« Reply #1148 on: August 03, 2008, 08:11:46 PM »

Research on Simian/Merian/Mono/Baboon's identity.  Thought there might be some that don't know this yet.

Rob

Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #3
« Reply #486 on: April 21, 2008, 03:28:16 PM »
   
Quote from: Lala'sMom on April 21, 2008, 03:25:17 PM
Quote from: Rob on April 21, 2008, 03:22:21 PM
omg - this could be me and Sandy. We were there on that date and that was our 9th trip....

Merian Ernest Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 3:29 pm Post subject: Be fair...
Spoke a to a confessed right-wing couple in Aruba. It was their ninth visit. They have no problem with the way the case has been handled and understand that as long as there is no proof you cannot hold somebody responsible.

Well, did anyone look like AG or Clyde? LOL

I saw Rufo Solongier's son the night before. 



http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2787.480


The good stuff starts right after this post.  I can't do a screen capture or I would bring VMS response here.  You will just have to go to that link and read it for yourself.  This is why I am certain about Simian.  It is several pages long and actually begins on page 23. 
   



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« Reply #1149 on: August 03, 2008, 08:30:37 PM »

While Shango is composing this post:

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:12 pm
Cowboys must behave in Indian territory
The arawaks need pemmican, they have been without wampum, 1 Moon
The Arawaks keep the singing card
One singing Babylonian and two Hindu chanters are enough
His lordships presence guarantees a trio
The key to edens door did not exist
The refrain has already begun


Simian provides this defense of the system:

Simian Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:10 pm
The system is built so that innocent are always protected. One shred of doubt is enough to thrown a case out.

Simian Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:11 pm
The system is built so that the innocent are always protected. One shred of doubt is enough to thrown a case out.



Shango responds with:

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:14 pm
Simian your Dopple has resumed position
Bird on the wire


No one has posted as Simian during this time.  We have often thought Shango's reference to Dopple (short for doppleganger) meant someone else posting as Simian.  But...the actual definition is a ghostly double or counterpart of a living person.  I believe Shango was referring to whoever it was that was telling Simian what to say.

Simian does not post again until 9:27 pm.  For over five hours Shango holds the attention of audience for the early evening hours.  Could Simian be in a "strategy session" during this time?

I may not manage to effectively get my point across so bear with me here. This conversation was not exclusively between Shango and Simian, IMO.  When read in total context to the other posters, I get the impression that Simian was trying to out comment or one up Shango among the FP posters.  I know that is something I harp on all the time...context.  But to me it's important.  Let me see if I can explain this better.

During this FP posting session Shango is talking about the money and tourism business. What is going to be lost because of this mess all the while the other posters are talking about Paulus being released and who and how long they hold suspects. I get the feeling that Simian is speaking to another poster and not intended toward Shango at all.

#  edie on June 26th, 2005 4:01 pm

Fox news is talking about it. They said they have to wait until 8 tonight if they will hold papa or not


# Kristin-in-SC on June 26th, 2005 4:02 pm

There really was not enough time to dump her far enough out in the ocean if the timelines all play out as being reported so far.


# Simian on June 26th, 2005 4:04 pm

The wire has been shaken. The bird has left.


# Anne on June 26th, 2005 4:05 pm

So the cowboys in anger would storm the stage as soon as the song began, and the audience would be trampled unfairly? Will the music resume when the cowboy’s exit or does it depend on arrival of mutually agreeable wampum?


# Kristin-in-SC on June 26th, 2005 4:06 pm

This code is getting too weird.


# max on June 26th, 2005 4:06 pm

So now they say they will decide by 8 tonight whether or not to release paulus. This explains the ploy of giving up his right to testify against his son. I am still thinking he is guilty for sure. I dont know if I can ever shake that . It would certainly be hard to get a jury. But they dont use juries. Only one man decides the whole enchilada. I suspect they will find it hard to justify holding sr vds now. I dont like the way this is playing out. But if he is innocent then what? Hope they will find Natalee.


# kristin on June 26th, 2005 4:07 pm

i agree kristin, it’s not helpful, more like frustrating. goodbye.


# edie on June 26th, 2005 4:08 pm

I just hate to see them get off.
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# Simian on June 26th, 2005 4:10 pm

The system is built so that innocent are always protected. One shred of doubt is enough to thrown a case out.



# Simian on June 26th, 2005 4:11 pm

The system is built so that the innocent are always protected. One shred of doubt is enough to thrown a case out.

# edie on June 26th, 2005 4:12 pm

I don’t believe at all that the vds duo are innocent
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« Reply #1150 on: August 03, 2008, 08:40:36 PM »

I know that conversation was not exclusively between Shango and Simian.  Simian was communicating with other posters and ignoring Shango.  Shango, on the other hand, was communicating with Simian only at this point.  He was trying to "draw him in".  I find that more interesting that just coming straight out and saying to everyone that Simian was wrong about The Hague and telling everyone on the site that Simian was a fraud..  He is addressing his posts to Simian...Simian wants no part of a conversation with Shango.  He communicates with others on the site...but not Shango.
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« Reply #1151 on: August 03, 2008, 08:46:09 PM »

I know where you are coming from, Lala's.  And I agree.  Why would Simian blatantly ignore such direct confrontation from Shango?  He was quick to respond to others who disagreed, but not Shango.  My theory is that  Shango was "getting it right" and Simian was trying to get someone to "ping" him to find out who he was.  I'm not sure Simian could ping, but I think he was concerned about Shango.
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« Reply #1152 on: August 03, 2008, 09:09:00 PM »

Arawaks often go to play in small houses of babylon with offspring of the elders=

dirty hand

Babalu's "official corps".......DirtyHand is link, has long reach.....to "long arm"

I understand now.  Now, how would Babalu, who is not in Aruba, know about this? 



he didn't - he was speculating based on Shango's posts......and got close
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« Reply #1153 on: August 03, 2008, 09:09:26 PM »

I know where you are coming from, Lala's.  And I agree.  Why would Simian blatantly ignore such direct confrontation from Shango?  He was quick to respond to others who disagreed, but not Shango.  My theory is that  Shango was "getting it right" and Simian was trying to get someone to "ping" him to find out who he was.  I'm not sure Simian could ping, but I think he was concerned about Shango.

I don't think Simian cared.  I think he already knew who Shango was. 
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« Reply #1154 on: August 03, 2008, 09:10:24 PM »

Arawaks often go to play in small houses of babylon with offspring of the elders=

dirty hand

Babalu's "official corps".......DirtyHand is link, has long reach.....to "long arm"

I understand now.  Now, how would Babalu, who is not in Aruba, know about this? 



he didn't - he was speculating based on Shango's posts......and got close

Got "close" or actually got it "right"? 
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« Reply #1155 on: August 03, 2008, 09:11:04 PM »

Babalú Says: June 27th, 2005 at 12:30 am
Concerned: No, I guess he is head of some local official corps. He is the guy that knows everything and that has been in the house of Babylonians NOT seeking pleasure for himself, so Shango says. So maybe he went to search for Natalee and he is the chief of Polis.
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« Reply #1156 on: August 03, 2008, 09:11:35 PM »

Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 8:06 pm
Babalu opened a window looking into Babylon on his 12:31 A.M. post
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« Reply #1157 on: August 03, 2008, 09:17:55 PM »

I know where you are coming from, Lala's.  And I agree.  Why would Simian blatantly ignore such direct confrontation from Shango?  He was quick to respond to others who disagreed, but not Shango.  My theory is that  Shango was "getting it right" and Simian was trying to get someone to "ping" him to find out who he was.  I'm not sure Simian could ping, but I think he was concerned about Shango.

I don't think Simian cared.  I think he already knew who Shango was. 

Maybe.  One thing for sure...he cared later on when the two di get into a verbal sparing match.
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« Reply #1158 on: August 03, 2008, 09:18:27 PM »

Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 9:48 pm
Babalu knew who dirty hand was at half past 12 (note: dirty hand)

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:42 pm
Arawaks hold singing card from babylon
There is also a trio. One Babylonian. 2 Shivas.
Arawaks can’t let babylonian Card (DirtyHand) sing because hand holding it dirty too.
Many teepees fall. No Wampum.

Shango Says:June 26th, 2005 at 9:19 pm
DirtyHand is not an Arawak

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 5:22 pm
The babylonians knew it was dangerous to trade among the arawaks

Babalú Says: June 27th, 2005 at 12:30 am
Concerned: No, I guess he is head of some local official corps. He is the guy that knows everything and that has been in the house of Babylonians NOT seeking pleasure for himself, so Shango says. So maybe he went to search for (see) Natalee and he is the chief of Polis.


Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 10:01 pm
Arawaks often go to play ("the game") in small houses of Babylon with the offspring of the Elders

DirtyHand is the link
He holds the real key
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« Reply #1159 on: August 03, 2008, 09:28:43 PM »

was DirtyHand held:

he will go back to babylon (from?), broken but anonymous

he walked with the fallen elder (6/26?)
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