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« Reply #1160 on: August 03, 2008, 09:40:07 PM »

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 4:50 pm
Some people on the other side of the pond know more than what they are saying. There testimony, there’s security footage, there are witnesses.

Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 10:45 pm
Windows looking onto Babylon are being opened by the ThreadSurfers

Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 11:29 pm
Some windows overlooking Babylon have been opened
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« Reply #1161 on: August 03, 2008, 09:40:30 PM »

Yes, it was a battle of egos for sure.  Simian was outmatched by Shango, though.  Simian's sources fizzled after that and he went back to his guitar playing.  I think he was more afraid of his relatives than Shango. Can't say I blame him either.
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« Reply #1162 on: August 03, 2008, 09:47:00 PM »

Yes, it was a battle of egos for sure.  Simian was outmatched by Shango, though.  Simian's sources fizzled after that and he went back to his guitar playing.  I think he was more afraid of his relatives than Shango. Can't say I blame him either.

Maybe they both stopped posting because they knew the cover-up was complete and Natalee would never be found????
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« Reply #1163 on: August 03, 2008, 09:57:45 PM »

Yes, it was a battle of egos for sure.  Simian was outmatched by Shango, though.  Simian's sources fizzled after that and he went back to his guitar playing.  I think he was more afraid of his relatives than Shango. Can't say I blame him either.

Maybe they both stopped posting because they knew the cover-up was complete and Natalee would never be found????

Possibly.  Simian stopped posting as Simian and began his Merian/Mono/Baboon stage.  I think he just got tired of it all, because no one was listening to him and he quit OR he was told to knock it off because he was working with some of these people and it was detrimental to his own cousin's future.

Shango probably morphed into another poster OR went back to his education or work.  Shango and Simian both led us away from the Klapoes and also Joran.  Both wanted us to see it was someone else that was responsible for Natalee's disappearance.   Shango blamed the workings of the "game" for it and Simian blamed the 5th suspect.  The only game I can figure out was the one Shango and Simian and Checkme and Shockthemonkey were playing with the FP posters.
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« Reply #1164 on: August 03, 2008, 10:02:33 PM »

You may be right about both of them playing a game with us.  What is intriguing to me is that they were angry with each other.  If both had the same objective, do you think it was really about egos?  Or, was Shango a little more open about the political and sociological issues on Aruba than Simian was.  If Simian was just a musician posting what he was told to post, what was Shango's motive??
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« Reply #1165 on: August 03, 2008, 10:27:19 PM »

You may be right about both of them playing a game with us.  What is intriguing to me is that they were angry with each other.  If both had the same objective, do you think it was really about egos?  Or, was Shango a little more open about the political and sociological issues on Aruba than Simian was.  If Simian was just a musician posting what he was told to post, what was Shango's motive??

I think Simian began posting because of all the attention he got from the posters that were here in the USA craving any tidbit of info from Aruba.  He was related to one of the many people questioned and he also was hearing talk from Rufo at the time.  He was clearly getting info and I think Checkme was wondering how he got his info.  Checkme was about as accurate as Simian was in his information too.  Everyone fell over themselves to speak to Checkme and I think Simian was jealous. Simian had a little knowledge that proved to be true. 

Shango saw this and knew who Simian was.  Shango was more into telling the story of how this mess would affect tourism and the economy on Aruba.  Shango knew that and he knew how the "game" worked.  High rollers talking advantage of young women and the like.  Shango tells us what the ugly side of Aruba is like.
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« Reply #1166 on: August 03, 2008, 10:51:02 PM »

Gosh! I have been here all day.  This has been a good day of conversation and speculation in here.  Keep it going.  I have revisited all my old thoughts and theories again.  Ahhhh!  I felt really good.  See you guys later.
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« Reply #1167 on: August 04, 2008, 08:57:11 AM »

While Shango is composing this post:

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:12 pm
Cowboys must behave in Indian territory
The arawaks need pemmican, they have been without wampum, 1 Moon
The Arawaks keep the singing card
One singing Babylonian and two Hindu chanters are enough
His lordships presence guarantees a trio
The key to edens door did not exist
The refrain has already begun


Simian provides this defense of the system:

Simian Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:10 pm
The system is built so that innocent are always protected. One shred of doubt is enough to thrown a case out.

Simian Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:11 pm
The system is built so that the innocent are always protected. One shred of doubt is enough to thrown a case out.



Shango responds with:

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:14 pm
Simian your Dopple has resumed position
Bird on the wire


No one has posted as Simian during this time.  We have often thought Shango's reference to Dopple (short for doppleganger) meant someone else posting as Simian.  But...the actual definition is a ghostly double or counterpart of a living person.  I believe Shango was referring to whoever it was that was telling Simian what to say.

Simian does not post again until 9:27 pm.  For over five hours Shango holds the attention of audience for the early evening hours.  Could Simian be in a "strategy session" during this time?


Truthseeker..what is your opinion of Simian’s double posts?…there are many…and he also posts similar posts under different topics. I have thought this was because he was being forwarded information, multi tasking and lost where he was at. Here he tried to post the word casino twice, it appears from reading the FP…this was in reference to his “boyfriend from earlier in the week…met at the same casino”. Was he trying to imply he knew more and could not say what he wanted? TIA

Reply #978 on: July 23, 2008, 07:36:03 AM » Mum   
 
More on Simian’s posts…From the FP on June 22nd. 2005

“Your post is awaiting moderation”
“Your post is awaiting moderation”
“Can’t say what I want”…

LOL…So intelligent he needed another poster to point out that he couldn’t post the word “casino”… 

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2886.msg401255#msg401255
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« Reply #1168 on: August 04, 2008, 09:06:38 AM »



Bringing these forward regarding van der Straten, Jossy and the AVP….

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2886.msg401855#msg401855

Reply #1007 on: July 26, 2008, 03:15:49 PM »   
 


subdude on June 30th, 2005 10:59 pm
Hope: It is the Polis Chief retiring unless asked to stay on, per Checkme.
Checkme: Who asks Chief to stay on? Prime Minister? Minister of Justice?

Checkme on June 30th, 2005 11:01 pm
Dude, if they ask him. But since he is of the wrong color and was an appointee of the previous (different) party he is gone. With elections coming soon, they want their guys in asap.
Checkme on June 30th, 2005 11:02 pm
but min of justice would have to ask.

Checkme on June 30th, 2005 11:05 pm
Hope you are absolutely correct. But on TV he was mentioning his pension… So I guess his contrac t was up to his pension age. But I will double check this tomorrow. The only difference this factor makes is that now this case will become an even larger political game. Bad for the investigation, exactly the same pattern as in many things here…

Checkme on June 30th, 2005 11:10 pm
new girl, the only way the Dutch benefit is keeping the Arubans happy in their own land. They would emigrate by the thousands to Holland in one month if things go sour here. But the true beneficiaries here are the American travel corporations/hotels here, none of which are owned by Arubans. Only the secondary industry are for Arubans. The major political players are of course backed by some families here, who have total control over what goes. Small island, so thi is quicly apparent. it happens all over the world but here it’s just very apparent.

Checkme on June 30th, 2005 11:12 pm
dude, yeah, PM is doing a good job, he can stay. his group is not perfect of course, but at least they are not ripping off the islanders so criminally as the previous regime.

Lucy on June 30th, 2005 11:15 pm
Subdude
But many Arubans have Babylonian last names and have been in the island for over 300 years, so they don’t sound Babylonian to me. He may be a van der Straaten whose great, great great, great grand papa arrived when the Dutch acquired the island from the Spanish.

Yliana on June 30th, 2005 11:16 pm
subdude - the police commissioner is Dutch. He’s been here in Aruba for almost 10 yrs I think.

From Silverfox…page 2 of this thread…

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2886.20


Remember, the current economic situation in Aruba effects his pocketbook too...

Politically his hands may be tied because he still lacks the clout in their parliament to protect his interests if hell is unleashed in the form of public disclosure of all the corruption and cover-up.  If you are an insider like Shango aludes to be you might feel that the 4th estate really does have "Dirty Hands".

The population of Aruba and island size is way to small ... Everyone knows everyone else and has something on everyone else -- but few are in the position to really report the truth to the masses and the world...

Yes, if Jossy were to sing Aruba would be shut down...IMHO

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The Interbank is owned by the Mansur Family. If anybody owns 60 per cent of the island, it is this powerful family.

Jossy Mansur is the owner and chief editor of the biggest newspaper on the island, "Diario". ""When I read an article in Diario, I know what will be the next action of the government","says Hendrik Croes, adding that the Mansurs create a climate of fear and intimidation on Aruba. Their newspapers force others off the market. Furthermore, ""their annual income is bigger than the yearly budget of the government.

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In the way of background, on October 5, 2005, Jossy Mansur, the editor of the Diario newspaper, opined that the racial problems in investigation of missing Alabama teen, Natalee Holloway, were between the Dutch and the Arubans. See 1 -- "The principal suspect is Dutch, the lead investigator was Dutch, the prosecutor is Dutch and the five judges involved are Dutch. If you think about it, an attempted boycott against Aruba is unjust, because it is misdirected and won't achieve the desired results."

Jossy Mansur is considered the godfather of the Arubanese Volks Partij (AVP).

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Update [hat tip - George( comments below)] : For confirmation that the Mansur clan has dirty hands in drug trafficking, money laundering and worse, look at their connections to terrorism, such as with Hezbollah:

    (...) According to El Espectador, Mohamed Ali Farhad has been linked to a money laundering investigation that involved the Aruba-based Mansur clan of Eric and Alexander Mansur, who controlled cigarette smuggling in the 1990s through the Mansur Free Zone Trading Company N.V., with its main offices in the Netherlands Antilles. 120 The Mansurs inherited a smuggling and drug trafficking empire established in the islands by the Cosa Nostra's Cuntrera-Caruana clan, when it began to work in Venezuela with Cali Cartel organizations.

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« Reply #1169 on: August 04, 2008, 09:13:01 AM »

While Shango is composing this post:

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:12 pm
Cowboys must behave in Indian territory
The arawaks need pemmican, they have been without wampum, 1 Moon
The Arawaks keep the singing card
One singing Babylonian and two Hindu chanters are enough
His lordships presence guarantees a trio
The key to edens door did not exist
The refrain has already begun


Simian provides this defense of the system:

Simian Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:10 pm
The system is built so that innocent are always protected. One shred of doubt is enough to thrown a case out.

Simian Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:11 pm
The system is built so that the innocent are always protected. One shred of doubt is enough to thrown a case out.



Shango responds with:

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:14 pm
Simian your Dopple has resumed position
Bird on the wire


No one has posted as Simian during this time.  We have often thought Shango's reference to Dopple (short for doppleganger) meant someone else posting as Simian.  But...the actual definition is a ghostly double or counterpart of a living person.  I believe Shango was referring to whoever it was that was telling Simian what to say.

Simian does not post again until 9:27 pm.  For over five hours Shango holds the attention of audience for the early evening hours.  Could Simian be in a "strategy session" during this time?


Truthseeker..what is your opinion of Simian’s double posts?…there are many…and he also posts similar posts under different topics. I have thought this was because he was being forwarded information, multi tasking and lost where he was at. Here he tried to post the word casino twice, it appears from reading the FP…this was in reference to his “boyfriend from earlier in the week…met at the same casino”. Was he trying to imply he knew more and could not say what he wanted? TIA

Reply #978 on: July 23, 2008, 07:36:03 AM » Mum   
 
More on Simian’s posts…From the FP on June 22nd. 2005

“Your post is awaiting moderation”
“Your post is awaiting moderation”
“Can’t say what I want”…

LOL…So intelligent he needed another poster to point out that he couldn’t post the word “casino”… 

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2886.msg401255#msg401255


I can't really tell if there was a specific motive behind the double posts.  Sometimes I think it may have been because of the slow reponse time of the sight and he may have thought his first one did not go through.  And, yes, sometimes I think he was viewing so many pages and posts that he would post a response on the wrong page and then go and post it on the page he originally meant to post on.  (hmmm....lol....I've done that before.  And no, I am not Simian.  lol)

Was casino a 'banned' word on the Front Page back then?
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« Reply #1170 on: August 04, 2008, 09:13:19 AM »

Research on Simian/Merian/Mono/Baboon's identity.  Thought there might be some that don't know this yet.

Rob

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« Reply #486 on: April 21, 2008, 03:28:16 PM »
   
Quote from: Lala'sMom on April 21, 2008, 03:25:17 PM
Quote from: Rob on April 21, 2008, 03:22:21 PM
omg - this could be me and Sandy. We were there on that date and that was our 9th trip....

Merian Ernest Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 3:29 pm Post subject: Be fair...
Spoke a to a confessed right-wing couple in Aruba. It was their ninth visit. They have no problem with the way the case has been handled and understand that as long as there is no proof you cannot hold somebody responsible.

Well, did anyone look like AG or Clyde? LOL

I saw Rufo Solongier's son the night before. 



http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2787.480


The good stuff starts right after this post.  I can't do a screen capture or I would bring VMS response here.  You will just have to go to that link and read it for yourself.  This is why I am certain about Simian.  It is several pages long and actually begins on page 23. 
   






Thanks Lala's...somewhere in those pages Rob posts that Armin called Ronnie Bernadino "Uncle". not sure if he was a real uncle or not, but Ronnie was FBI trained...

Van der straten said he picked up 1 FBI agent at the airport on IIRC June 2nd...why do the Arubans and the van der Sloots insist that the FBI was on the case from Day 1??
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« Reply #1171 on: August 04, 2008, 09:22:38 AM »

Mum,

I remember those posts regarding the Mansurs.  Those posts do cause some raised eyebrows, especially when you dig into the possible motives of Shango.  Thanks for bringing them back out.  I don't think we can move forward too much without stuff like this being considered.

I have never crossed Jossy off of my list as a possible Shango author.  He is not the only one on my list, though.
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« Reply #1172 on: August 04, 2008, 11:41:10 AM »

Mum,

I remember those posts regarding the Mansurs.  Those posts do cause some raised eyebrows, especially when you dig into the possible motives of Shango.  Thanks for bringing them back out.  I don't think we can move forward too much without stuff like this being considered.

I have never crossed Jossy off of my list as a possible Shango author.  He is not the only one on my list, though.

Such wise people we have on here.  Good decision.  Jossy is always on the list in one way or the other.  I still hold to the keep your enemies closer theory on most things concerning Aruba.  When it comes to political parties and Aruba those thoughts can never be far from the front. 
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« Reply #1173 on: August 04, 2008, 01:27:13 PM »

While Shango is composing this post:

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:12 pm
Cowboys must behave in Indian territory
The arawaks need pemmican, they have been without wampum, 1 Moon
The Arawaks keep the singing card
One singing Babylonian and two Hindu chanters are enough
His lordships presence guarantees a trio
The key to edens door did not exist
The refrain has already begun


Simian provides this defense of the system:

Simian Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:10 pm
The system is built so that innocent are always protected. One shred of doubt is enough to thrown a case out.

Simian Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:11 pm
The system is built so that the innocent are always protected. One shred of doubt is enough to thrown a case out.



Shango responds with:

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:14 pm
Simian your Dopple has resumed position
Bird on the wire


No one has posted as Simian during this time.  We have often thought Shango's reference to Dopple (short for doppleganger) meant someone else posting as Simian.  But...the actual definition is a ghostly double or counterpart of a living person.  I believe Shango was referring to whoever it was that was telling Simian what to say.

Simian does not post again until 9:27 pm.  For over five hours Shango holds the attention of audience for the early evening hours.  Could Simian be in a "strategy session" during this time?


Truthseeker..what is your opinion of Simian’s double posts?…there are many…and he also posts similar posts under different topics. I have thought this was because he was being forwarded information, multi tasking and lost where he was at. Here he tried to post the word casino twice, it appears from reading the FP…this was in reference to his “boyfriend from earlier in the week…met at the same casino”. Was he trying to imply he knew more and could not say what he wanted? TIA

Reply #978 on: July 23, 2008, 07:36:03 AM » Mum   
 
More on Simian’s posts…From the FP on June 22nd. 2005

“Your post is awaiting moderation”
“Your post is awaiting moderation”
“Can’t say what I want”…

LOL…So intelligent he needed another poster to point out that he couldn’t post the word “casino”… 

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2886.msg401255#msg401255


I can't really tell if there was a specific motive behind the double posts.  Sometimes I think it may have been because of the slow reponse time of the sight and he may have thought his first one did not go through.  And, yes, sometimes I think he was viewing so many pages and posts that he would post a response on the wrong page and then go and post it on the page he originally meant to post on.  (hmmm....lol....I've done that before.  And no, I am not Simian.  lol)

Was casino a 'banned' word on the Front Page back then?



Truthseeker…That was the day…I had to check as I was not sure if it was Jake or Skippy…No-one was trying to stop Simian from saying what he wanted…he just kept trying to post “Casino”,IMO…I copied a few more posts to show what the posters thought of Simian on that day…LOL

Posts in blue are about 'casino and moderation'...

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2005/06/21/beth-twitty-and-the-van-der-sloots-meet/#comments


Snippy on June 22nd, 2005 1:31 pm
What does it mean when it says my comment is waiting Moderation..Have I said something wrong?

Snippy on June 22nd, 2005 1:39 pm
OK, I ask a question about my post..now the post in question isn’t there….I didn’t swear I merely answered someones question about the night Natalee met Van Der Sloop..what could be wrong in that for crap sake…??


Snippy on June 22nd, 2005 1:44 pm
Can anyone answer why my poist had a comment after it that said..Post being Monitored and then it was later deleted..HELP…Maybe they think I’m on to something..LOL…Guess I won’t be answering my door today or the phone


Red on June 22nd, 2005 1:45 pm
Snippy - check your email.
Question for everyone here? You can send email to answer.
Is there a reason why you guys do not use the discussion forum?
The only reason why I ask (actually more than one) is that both comments & forums are bringing up interesting points and neither side is seeing them.
Just a quick email would be appreciated Just trying to get some feedback. Would like all of you to participate under the same umbrella.
Thanks.


Snippy on June 22nd, 2005 1:48 pm
pktblc..I don’t know..I’ve hardly posted anything that could be taken as vulgar or troublemaking…I’ll check my E-Mail


Simian on June 22nd, 2005 2:59 pm
There’s not even a trace of her. At this point I am inclined to believe in a theory that has been going around on the island, but that I find difficult to post here.

crs on June 22nd, 2005 3:02 pm
Simian - just tell us - don’t offer us pudding and then eat it yourself.

Jake on June 22nd, 2005 3:03 pm
Simien:
How can you possibly find it hard to post anything here! Pls. tell me/us what is going around on the island!

Simian on June 22nd, 2005 3:11 pm
What Countrymoon is saying is true. In Aruba we wonder how come WE do not get a chance to interrogate some chaperone or the group of kids that were swimming in front of the Holiday Inn until 6 in the morning.

crs on June 22nd, 2005 3:21 pm
I guess Simian’s mom put him down for a nap finally.

Red on June 22nd, 2005 3:50 pm
Folks
Comments have to be shut down for a bit because of too much traffic. Let us deal with some server issues.
When we turn them back on, the top post will be available for comments.
Tom & Red

Simian on June 22nd, 2005 4:23 pm
The news in Aruba has reported that Joran has shut down.

crs on June 22nd, 2005 4:29 pm
Sim - Right now we hear Joran has changed his story again - what do your hear?

Simian on June 22nd, 2005 4:31 pm
I tried to, but I got a message saying that my post would bo placed in through the moderator. I tried again and got the same message. Maybe I am not allowed to say what I know.


ladyJA on June 22nd, 2005 4:43 pm
Is Simian gone??

Simian on June 22nd, 2005 4:45 pm
I hope they find her. The gov’t and the private sector should give the whole island the day off to go wave her goodbye at the Airport.

Jake on June 22nd, 2005 4:46 pm
Do you guys believe that Simien tried to send us a message and got placed in a “moderator”????? Do you think he’s for real? Or are his walls padded? Or maybe he needs a nap?

Simian on June 22nd, 2005 4:48 pm
I am here. Can’t say the things I want…


crs on June 22nd, 2005 4:50 pm
Tom/Red - can you elaborate at all on Simian?

MOMfromMO on June 22nd, 2005 4:50 pm
Jake to Simian: Oopsey…I think Simian’s back. Maybe he could answer about the ‘padded walls’. :O

Simian on June 22nd, 2005 4:50 pm
Some people on the other side of the pond know more than what they are saying. There testimony, there’s security footage, there are witnesses.

crs on June 22nd, 2005 4:53 pm
Sim can you elaborate anymore than that? Is this your opinion or based on something mre concrete?

pktbk on June 22nd, 2005 4:53 pm
wow…..we’ve made more progress in the last five minutes than all week!!

crs on June 22nd, 2005 4:54 pm
pktbk - sim is contradicting what checkme says. Thoughts?

Simian on June 22nd, 2005 4:56 pm
The 5th suspect has an alibi so strong that he has everybody baffled.

Continued posts and questions on the alibi and boyfriend…

MOMfromMO on June 22nd, 2005 5:19 pm
Hey Sim?
Didn’t you mention earlier that when you were ‘awaiting moderation’, that it occurred when you typed (the word for a place to gamble)???


Snippy on June 22nd, 2005 5:37 pm
MOM, that was I that mentioned that gambling place called a C…just thought I’d peek in and see what the therories are now…so Sim thinks a kid on the trip did the deed? Can’t figure out for the life of me what he’s saying..SPIT IT OUT…instead of playing these word games for goodness sake.


Simian on June 22nd, 2005 5:41 pm
Simian Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.


June 22nd, 2005 at 5:40 pm
Simian Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.


June 22nd, 2005 at 5:38 pm
Checkme…check this…and please recheck:
Girl comes to Aruba. Meets cool and crazy guy in C@$ino. Goes out with him. He declares that to be the case. Can’t deny it. It’s on tape. Everybody in the C@$ino knows the group of teens, they have been drinking in there for free the whole week.
After a couple of days girl meets another boy in the same C@$ino. Goes out with him. This makes first guy really mad. So mad he confronts second boy.
First guy never denies the affair. He knows they know he was with her. However, he has an airtight alibi. Some friends say they were at home with him. Until the morning.
How can this ever be solved?


Snippy on June 22nd, 2005 5:45 pm
Sim..I get you now..THANKS…you could be right..I “See” you mentioned that dreaded C word like I did and had your post deleted…


Back to the boyfriend from earlier in the week…






























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« Reply #1174 on: August 04, 2008, 02:07:38 PM »

Odd.  I can't imagine why the word casino would have been the problem.  Just coincidence that SM was have a server overload and two posters thought the reason their post never made it through was because of that word????

Maybe Klaas can answer that.


I have all of those posts saved myself, but have not spent as much time on the early Simian posts as I have on the ones Simian made after Shango made his appearance.  It's interesting to see the difference in Simian's posting style then vs later on after Shango appeared on the site.
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« Reply #1175 on: August 04, 2008, 06:23:08 PM »

Odd.  I can't imagine why the word casino would have been the problem.  Just coincidence that SM was have a server overload and two posters thought the reason their post never made it through was because of that word????

Maybe Klaas can answer that.


I have all of those posts saved myself, but have not spent as much time on the early Simian posts as I have on the ones Simian made after Shango made his appearance.  It's interesting to see the difference in Simian's posting style then vs later on after Shango appeared on the site.


Simian was talking to the posters at the time.  In fact, it was Checkme, that brought up the sex slavery that prompted Simian's response.  Keep in mind that all posts were being reviewed before they were posted so there is some lag time between what Simian was reading and his responses being posted.  Those on Aruba were also hearing things on the local radio stations that the national media was not privy to.  I think Simian got much of his information from there instead of his relatives.  When he did start leaking info that his relatives were passing along things got nasty between him and Shango.  The police were keeping watch over the blogs too and they literally set him up.  Simian would never admit it but he got the shaft in the deal.  He came onboard as soon as Steve Croes was arrested and things began to look bad for him.  I think he was told to find out what they were saying about him and Simian got caught up in the attention he received from the other posters.   
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« Reply #1176 on: August 04, 2008, 06:47:38 PM »

Odd.  I can't imagine why the word casino would have been the problem.  Just coincidence that SM was have a server overload and two posters thought the reason their post never made it through was because of that word????

Maybe Klaas can answer that.


I have all of those posts saved myself, but have not spent as much time on the early Simian posts as I have on the ones Simian made after Shango made his appearance.  It's interesting to see the difference in Simian's posting style then vs later on after Shango appeared on the site.


Simian was talking to the posters at the time.  In fact, it was Checkme, that brought up the sex slavery that prompted Simian's response.  Keep in mind that all posts were being reviewed before they were posted so there is some lag time between what Simian was reading and his responses being posted.  Those on Aruba were also hearing things on the local radio stations that the national media was not privy to.  I think Simian got much of his information from there instead of his relatives.  When he did start leaking info that his relatives were passing along things got nasty between him and Shango.  The police were keeping watch over the blogs too and they literally set him up.  Simian would never admit it but he got the shaft in the deal.  He came onboard as soon as Steve Croes was arrested and things began to look bad for him.  I think he was told to find out what they were saying about him and Simian got caught up in the attention he received from the other posters.   


Lala’s…Are you saying that his posts awaiting moderation had nothing to do with the word casino? He did come back with C@$ino in the next posts.

What do you think about his double and triple, similar posts. The one about Paulus being picked up, he posted on one page, then came back on another and then returned to the first one..TIA

LOL...on 6/22, before Shango started posting they sure didn't sound very complimentary...there were more like I posted in the previous post....maybe his Mom put him down for a nap...LOL
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« Reply #1177 on: August 04, 2008, 06:52:44 PM »

Mum,

I remember those posts regarding the Mansurs.  Those posts do cause some raised eyebrows, especially when you dig into the possible motives of Shango.  Thanks for bringing them back out.  I don't think we can move forward too much without stuff like this being considered.

I have never crossed Jossy off of my list as a possible Shango author.  He is not the only one on my list, though.

Such wise people we have on here.  Good decision.  Jossy is always on the list in one way or the other.  I still hold to the keep your enemies closer theory on most things concerning Aruba.  When it comes to political parties and Aruba those thoughts can never be far from the front. 

So van der Straten was appointed by AVP, Jossy’s party, and Jossy said he did a great job. Lala’s do you recall what else he said about van der Straten? I thought he gave some comments on Scared Monkeys Radio one time? Just don't recall offhand exactly what he said. TIA

I would think that as Silverfox has alluded to previously he probably knew Betico Croes pretty well and there is a connection to Hendrick Croes’ legal firm and that Trust with the bank. Political connection to Betico, business connection to Hendrick. Still need to reread all that Mansur stuff…not enough hours….



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« Reply #1178 on: August 04, 2008, 07:21:24 PM »

I do not think there is any significance in the double postings.  Simply hitting the submit button twice will do that.  I have no idea about the word casino, but it was happening days before that. Other bloggers mentioned it on the FP also, I think.

I would need to get confirmation from someone, but when the FP was busy they couldn't approve the posts fast enough and you get that response.  I have posted on the FP and received that same message.  Klaas reviews them all and I suspect that even back then they did  the same. 
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« Reply #1179 on: August 04, 2008, 07:23:58 PM »

Mum,

I remember those posts regarding the Mansurs.  Those posts do cause some raised eyebrows, especially when you dig into the possible motives of Shango.  Thanks for bringing them back out.  I don't think we can move forward too much without stuff like this being considered.

I have never crossed Jossy off of my list as a possible Shango author.  He is not the only one on my list, though.

Such wise people we have on here.  Good decision.  Jossy is always on the list in one way or the other.  I still hold to the keep your enemies closer theory on most things concerning Aruba.  When it comes to political parties and Aruba those thoughts can never be far from the front. 

So van der Straten was appointed by AVP, Jossy’s party, and Jossy said he did a great job. Lala’s do you recall what else he said about van der Straten? I thought he gave some comments on Scared Monkeys Radio one time? Just don't recall offhand exactly what he said. TIA

I would think that as Silverfox has alluded to previously he probably knew Betico Croes pretty well and there is a connection to Hendrick Croes’ legal firm and that Trust with the bank. Political connection to Betico, business connection to Hendrick. Still need to reread all that Mansur stuff…not enough hours….





I do remember because one of Jossy's responses to a question was from me.  He said he still trusted van der Straten and had no reason to think he was not doing everything possible to find a resolution in the case.  As far as I can tell, Jossy has not changed his mind on that yet.  Then again, he said he had faith in Karen Jansen too.
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