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« Reply #1200 on: August 05, 2008, 12:51:36 PM »

I know where you are coming from, Lala's.  And I agree.  Why would Simian blatantly ignore such direct confrontation from Shango?  He was quick to respond to others who disagreed, but not Shango.  My theory is that  Shango was "getting it right" and Simian was trying to get someone to "ping" him to find out who he was.  I'm not sure Simian could ping, but I think he was concerned about Shango.

I don't think Simian cared.  I think he already knew who Shango was. 

Maybe.  One thing for sure...he cared later on when the two did get into a verbal sparring match.

Can some-one point me to this, please. I am not sure if I am thinking of what is being referred to.  TIA

three chock full o' nuggets threads/links below

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mid afternoon june 26 thru early afternoon june 27
just prior to/during the start of TES Moko quarry search

sim ignoring shango/competition for posters' attention

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2005/06/26/natalee-holloway-breaking-aruba-news-croes-released/#comments

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41. new girl on June 27th, 2005 12:34 pm
One post made yesterday by Simian was a confirmation for me that he’s got legit inside information. At 4:04 pm he posted:

Simian Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:04 pm
The wire has been shaken. The bird has left.

When news broke at around 6 pm that elder VDS had been ordered released by the judge and had been already released from custody, it seemed clear to me that Simian knew this at 4:04.


http://scaredmonkeys.com/2005/06/27/mountain-brook-community-turns-out-for-natalee-holloway/#comments

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shango to sim: "I told you so": nothing found in quarry

422. Shango on June 27th, 2005 11:48 pm
The Simian was incorrect about the package from the Hague
I told the Simian, but the Simian would not listen
The simian is not a simian, but an austrolopithecus


sim out-ed as female/cat fight begins around 2am june 28

623. Simian on June 28th, 2005 1:43 am
The Simian has a handicap of 12.

648. Simian on June 28th, 2005 2:01 am
The Simian is getting out. Knows Shango, knows Shock, knows Checkme. Do not underestimate the power of the ping.

Shango is a dumb copycat. Maybe the Simian should place a call on you. Get you 8 days with a hole to take a dump in. Complementary peanut butter on stale bread for you, you fool.

The Simian is angry. Over and out.

669. Robalo33 on June 28th, 2005 2:21 am
J’aime mieux passer les temps avec un femme comme vous Simian.
[I like/enjoy spending time with a female/woman like you Simian.]

697. Simian on June 28th, 2005 2:53 am
Shango, whenever you think you can get on the inside of the real Aruban society give me a sign, you probably were picking up the trash.

You have been pinged. Bai drumi! Ta laat caba.
[Go to sleep! It is late.]

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2005/06/27/riehl-world-has-interesting-news/#comments

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« Reply #1201 on: August 05, 2008, 01:46:14 PM »

There is a Josh(ua) Posner listed as :

Owner at Aruba Aloe
Director of E-Commerce at Aruba Aloe

He attended The College of Wooster and graduated in 2006.  Just about Natalee's age.

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/4/a96/390

Seems he was also interested in magic.

http://www.wooster.edu/voice/20020920/features_magic.html

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« Reply #1202 on: August 05, 2008, 01:50:20 PM »

Yes, Finngirl, that is some of what I was referring to this weekend.  Shango had a few choice words for Simian as well:

Shango Says: June 28th, 2005 at 2:59 am
The Simian Doppleganger is upset because the arawak nation is hiding the truth from the cowboys
DirtyHand knows
Simian knows
The Simian stated for 2 days, the key would come from the hague the next day
Shango said no two times
Is Simian a DirtyHand too
Has the Simian played with the lions
in the houses of ill-repute and poison notes
where the innocent flies are lured?
Has the Simian, primate that he is, fed with the other animals?
Back ye fetid mongrel, as the 46th are you; delegate of the 7th level of inferno,
not birthed, but spewed from the dark chasm of a nightmare!
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« Reply #1203 on: August 05, 2008, 02:29:34 PM »

Shango Says: June 28th, 2005 at 2:59 am
The Simian Doppleganger is upset because the arawak nation
is hiding the truth from the cowboys

DirtyHand knows

Simian knows

The Simian stated for 2 days,
the key would come from the hague the next day

Shango said no two times
 
Is Simian a DirtyHand too

Has the Simian played with the lions
in the houses of ill-repute and poison notes
where the innocent flies are lured?

Has the Simian, primate that he is, fed with the other animals?

Back ye fetid mongrel, as the 46th are you;
delegate of the 7th level of inferno,
not birthed, but spewed from the dark chasm of a nightmare!


Dants'e Inferno/The Circles of Hell
Virgil guides Dante through the nine circles of Hell.

Seventh Circle
This circle houses the violent. Its entry is guarded by the Minotaur, and it is divided into three rings:

Outer ring, housing the violent against people and property, who are immersed in Phlegethon, a river of boiling blood, to a level commensurate with their sins.

Middle ring: In this ring are the suicides, who are transformed into gnarled thorny bushes and trees. They are torn at by the Harpies.

Inner ring: The violent against God (blasphemers), the violent against nature (sodomites), and the violent against order (usurers), all reside in a desert of flaming sand with fiery flakes raining from the sky.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Divine_Comedy


Level 7
Guarded by the Minotaur, who snarls in fury, and encircled within the river Phlegethon, filled with boiling blood, is the Seventh Level of Hell. The violent, the assassins, the tyrants, and the war-mongers lament their pitiless mischiefs in the river, while centaurs armed with bows and arrows shoot those who try to escape their punishment. The stench here is overpowering. This level is also home to the wood of the suicides- stunted and gnarled trees with twisting branches and poisoned fruit. At the time of final judgement, their bodies will hang from their branches. In those branches the Harpies, foul birdlike creatures with human faces, make their nests. Beyond the wood is scorching sand where those who committed violence against God and nature are showered with flakes of fire that rain down against their naked bodies. Blasphemers and sodomites writhe in pain, their tongues more loosed to lamentation, and out of their eyes gushes forth their woe. Usurers, who followed neither nature nor art, also share company in the Seventh Level.
http://www.4degreez.com/misc/dante-inferno-information.html


userer: One who lends money at interest,
especially at an exorbitant or unlawfully high rate:
loanshark

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« Reply #1204 on: August 05, 2008, 02:32:48 PM »

There is a Josh(ua) Posner listed as :

Owner at Aruba Aloe
Director of E-Commerce at Aruba Aloe

He attended The College of Wooster and graduated in 2006.  Just about Natalee's age.

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/4/a96/390

Seems he was also interested in magic.

http://www.wooster.edu/voice/20020920/features_magic.html



Hear Josh "read" his report on Aloe Vera:

http://jbreitenbuch.wooster.edu/~jonb/itredo/files/biology_of_tropics_npr/Josh_Posner.mp3
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« Reply #1205 on: August 05, 2008, 02:33:15 PM »

Dants'e Inferno/The Circles of Hell

should be: Dante's Inferno/The Circles of Hell

 Rolling Eyes

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« Reply #1206 on: August 05, 2008, 02:38:13 PM »

There is a Josh(ua) Posner listed as :

Owner at Aruba Aloe
Director of E-Commerce at Aruba Aloe

He attended The College of Wooster and graduated in 2006.  Just about Natalee's age.

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/4/a96/390

Seems he was also interested in magic.

http://www.wooster.edu/voice/20020920/features_magic.html


Now that is interesting. Very interesting.

The young age, and the magic and the Aruba Aloe company that's "hidden in PLAIN VIEW".

Two boys. Two fathers.

One boy was late for school, the other boy was on time.

The reminder phone call ringing in the background during Papa sloot's sweating bullets interview in his home.

MAGIC:
the grey whisper said "...the talisman in his hand is running out of charms... the broomsticks are enchanted, but their master may regret the dance now that it has been set..."  Who is the 'master' - GRANDPA POSNR?

So who was calling Paulus on his home phone during his sweating bullets interview? GRANDPA?

Did Paulus go to FL to discuss not ending his babylonian offspring with GRANDPA?

Shango says: "The fallen judge agreed to sing because he can hum any tune. He needs to sing for his son, or see the end of his babylonian offspring." GRANDPA COULD DEFINITELY MAKE THAT HAPPEN!


PLAINVIEW FLORIDA, INC
701 BRICKELL AVE., SUITE 1600
MIAMI FL 33131

ARUBA ALOE OF AMERICA, INC
701 BRICKELL AVENUE., Suite 1400
MIAMI FL 33131
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« Reply #1207 on: August 05, 2008, 02:39:17 PM »

...and does he play cricket?
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« Reply #1208 on: August 05, 2008, 02:51:37 PM »

There is a Josh(ua) Posner listed as :

Owner at Aruba Aloe
Director of E-Commerce at Aruba Aloe

He attended The College of Wooster and graduated in 2006.  Just about Natalee's age.

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/4/a96/390

Seems he was also interested in magic.

http://www.wooster.edu/voice/20020920/features_magic.html



Wonder if he played cricket...

http://www.wooster.edu/cricket/

8:41 PM the grey whisper said...
just came back from an out of country location where i could not use the internet without unwanted results. tell me, is the cricket ready to chirp?
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« Reply #1209 on: August 05, 2008, 03:09:45 PM »

There is a Josh(ua) Posner listed as :

Owner at Aruba Aloe
Director of E-Commerce at Aruba Aloe

He attended The College of Wooster and graduated in 2006.  Just about Natalee's age.

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/4/a96/390

Seems he was also interested in magic.

http://www.wooster.edu/voice/20020920/features_magic.html


Now that is interesting. Very interesting.

The young age, and the magic and the Aruba Aloe company that's "hidden in PLAIN VIEW".

Two boys. Two fathers.

One boy was late for school, the other boy was on time.

The reminder phone call ringing in the background during Papa sloot's sweating bullets interview in his home.

MAGIC:
the grey whisper said "...the talisman in his hand is running out of charms... the broomsticks are enchanted, but their master may regret the dance now that it has been set..."  Who is the 'master' - GRANDPA POSNR?

So who was calling Paulus on his home phone during his sweating bullets interview? GRANDPA?

Did Paulus go to FL to discuss not ending his babylonian offspring with GRANDPA?

Shango says: "The fallen judge agreed to sing because he can hum any tune. He needs to sing for his son, or see the end of his babylonian offspring." GRANDPA COULD DEFINITELY MAKE THAT HAPPEN!


PLAINVIEW FLORIDA, INC
701 BRICKELL AVE., SUITE 1600
MIAMI FL 33131

ARUBA ALOE OF AMERICA, INC
701 BRICKELL AVENUE., Suite 1400
MIAMI FL 33131

The similarities are interesting, but be aware that Josh, in May 2005, would have just completed his junior year of college.  Older than Joran and would not be going to school on Monday.  I don't even know if Josh Posner was on the island at that time.  I just found this today while searching for Posner and Aruba at that same time.

I don't feel right about accusing this kid of anything just yet.  Don't know enough about him.  I am still looking for more info.
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« Reply #1210 on: August 05, 2008, 03:12:06 PM »

Poochy…Posner’s son was 45 in 2005…This is how Posner “legally” managed to own a Casino.  Jossy must have known this before he did his article on Posner.

I can’t make everything “fit” with the casinos. Lol…I can’t make anything fit…

Not sure what you are referring to by 75% of Codetalkers.  Could you elaborate please?  TIA

EXCELSIOR CASINO N.V.
Business address J.E. IRAUSQUIN BLVD. 230, NOORD
Legal form LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY
Name of the company EXCELSIOR CASINO N.V.
Statutory seat ARUBA
Date of incorporation 19 JUNE 1998
Authorized capital ARUBAN FLORINS 100,000.00
Issued capital ARUBAN FLORINS 20,000.00
Paid up capital ARUBAN FLORINS 20,000.00
Fiscal year 01 JANUARY thru 31 DECEMBER
DIRECTORS - AUTHORIZED PERSONS AND CORPORATE BODIES - SUPERVISORY BOARD:
POSNER, WALTER BRETT;
Residing in 9 BANOCKBURN COURT , BANOCKBURN III, U.S.A.
Born in U.S.A., CHICAGO, ILLINOIS on 21 MAY 1960
Nationality AMERICAN
Position MANAGING DIRECTOR
Effective 23 OCTOBER 1998
Authority FULL
OBJECTIVE(S) OF THE COMPANY
TO OPERATE A CASINO AT THE "HOLIDAY IN RESORT".


So Posnr has a son age 45. The son age 45 could easily have a son age 17-25. Interesting.
 
PVDS had one or two cards up his sleeve, they have been played and lost:

#1) one's song was not on the bill = THIS WAS STEVE CROES THE SINGING CARD.
#2) the other card has been kept hidden = THIS WAS THE BABYLONIAN CARD HELD BY 'HAND HOLDING IT IS DIRTY TOO'.

...SO IS THERE A 3RD PERSON=DirtyHand besides the 2 above? Is #2 above a witness held for his own protection and is the '5th' - the bfriend from earlier in the week?

Or is #2 DirtyHand? (this is all so confusing) 

(MUM - 75% of the prose that is - mainly referencing casinos=via terms like gambling, cards, deck, hands, win, lost, cards up sleeve, etc. )



who do we know was brought in, but Dennis Jacobs said that he was never a suspect? somebody that cannot be revealed because it would put teepees at risk (marriages, reputations)

This would be DirtyHand, one of two cards played by PVDS......the music man's song was not on the bill........who does that leave?
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« Reply #1211 on: August 05, 2008, 03:13:51 PM »

Group pic which includes Josh Posner.  (last one on right in second row)

http://www.wooster.edu/philosophy/students/photomajors04-05.php

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« Reply #1212 on: August 05, 2008, 03:55:10 PM »

Group pic which includes Josh Posner.  (last one on right in second row)

http://www.wooster.edu/philosophy/students/photomajors04-05.php




"DirtyHand is not a child of Babylon"
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« Reply #1213 on: August 05, 2008, 04:36:29 PM »

Seek ye DirtyHand and the Fetid Arawak King who wishes to blame the babylonians for the behaviour of lowly minions.
 
Babylon holds the answers,

Why have all forgotten DirtyHand, who has aided son of SlanderFoot?

He holds the key!

DirtyHand holds the key to the secrets of the SlanderFoot Clan,

Shango Says:
June 30th, 2005 at 2:11 am
All Secrets are hidden in Plain View[/b]
Hidden in Plain View:   http://www.juvenilejusticefund.org/documents/childProstitution_summary.pdf

the game, pg 4:  http://www.ca11.uscourts.gov/opinions/ops/200214306.pdf
Both pimps and prostitutes generally referred to their activities as “the game.”




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« Reply #1214 on: August 05, 2008, 05:13:38 PM »

would add from pg 7:

"............entertained members of a municipal police force at his home on at least one occasion,
where they engaged in sexual intercourse with his prostitutes."
http://www.ca11.uscourts.gov/opinions/ops/200214306.pdf



Arawaks play in the small houses of babylon with offspring of the elder
hand holding it dirty too (among other things)
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« Reply #1215 on: August 05, 2008, 05:14:20 PM »

above is what Babalu was getting at-opening a window overlooking babylon
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« Reply #1216 on: August 05, 2008, 05:18:08 PM »

when Lorenzo was arrested more recently......had pondered whether that had been his first time behind the wheel of the polis car.......the polis must have left the keys in their pants pocket

Considering his private meeting with the judge and his subsequent release with no consequences I wonder about a lot of things.


omg.......auditioning the singing card???!!!

If you are serious, then you have to have the 5th suspect debate. LOL  Because Lorenzo could be the 5th suspect.  Interesting isn't it? 
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« Reply #1217 on: August 05, 2008, 05:19:27 PM »

Simian used the word boyfriend, Shango says something else

The maze offers many hidden desires
deflowerings of forbidden fruits
DirtyHand knows
So does the elder

DirtyHand was not seeking pleasure for himself

If it did happen, and NH was not even concious-do you think that Simian would have posted? remember-he's hiding DirtyHand

Are you saying the 5th suspect was Dirty Hand?  Simian did not speak of dirty hand until Shango brought it up.
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« Reply #1218 on: August 05, 2008, 05:23:05 PM »

PVDS=#5
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« Reply #1219 on: August 05, 2008, 05:23:34 PM »

There is a Josh(ua) Posner listed as :

Owner at Aruba Aloe
Director of E-Commerce at Aruba Aloe

He attended The College of Wooster and graduated in 2006.  Just about Natalee's age.

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/4/a96/390

Seems he was also interested in magic.

http://www.wooster.edu/voice/20020920/features_magic.html



Wonder if he played cricket...

http://www.wooster.edu/cricket/

8:41 PM the grey whisper said...
just came back from an out of country location where i could not use the internet without unwanted results. tell me, is the cricket ready to chirp?


I have always thought this meant was there someone that was about to tell all about what happened and where Natalee was.  I suppose I am wrong...again.
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