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MumInOhio
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #4
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August 15, 2008, 08:45:39 AM »
COLUMBO'S link took me back to reading the tni.org document. Found this interesting and want to keep it all here for future reference. Plus the business connections bother me…
Hendrick Croes is directly tied to the Mansur families’ business dealings. He and Jossy appear to be the 2 leading political figures on the island, opposite parties. Hendrick’s brother Betico was a political leader of the same party as Jossy. Hendrick Croes is also the Lawyer for the government of Aruba.
A Smugglers' Paradise
The Intercon Financial Bank on Aruba is represented by the law-firm Croes & Wever. One of the partners is former Minister of Justice Hendrik Croes. The firm's trust-company Arulex was implicated in setting up the bank. "Yes, we are involved with that bank," says Croes. "We still handle all their legal affairs, but we don't know anything of their financial accounts." (70)
Hendrik Croes – a brother of the island's legendary leader, the late Betico Croes who guided Aruba to its semi-independent status in the Dutch realm – is one of the leading political figures on the island. He led several election campaigns for the MEP, now in the opposition. The Croes Family has been accused of ties with Cuntrera-Caruana. The Sicilian mafiosi payed for a trip of another brother, Rudy Croes (who succeeded Hendrik as Minister of Justice in a previous MEP government) as party secretary to a meeting of the Socialist International in Turkey. This has not been denied.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3128.460
Reply #467 on: July 28, 2008, 04:58:29 PM » Quisp
Another snip..."The Cuntrera-Caruana clan had links with another Aruban bank: the Interbank. The bank granted a credit to the Cuntrera company "Investeringen Tweehonderd en Tien" for 1.8 million Aruban guilders (approximately one million dollars). Why the Cuntreras who own several investment companies in Venezuela needed the loan is unknown.One could speculate, however, this was a 'loan-back' operation to launder money. An amount of money is deposited cash at a bank and the bank lends the money back: now there is a clean and legitimate source of earnings.
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The Interbank is owned by the Mansur Family. If anybody owns 60 per cent of the island, it is this powerful family.
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Jossy Mansur is the owner and chief editor of the biggest newspaper on the island, "Diario". "When I read an article in Diario, I know what will be the next action of the government,"says Hendrik Croes, adding that the Mansurs create a climate of fear and intimidation on Aruba."
Reply #474 on: July 28, 2008, 05:26:34 PM » Pita
I don't know how Hendrik Croes could make a statement about now knowing anything about financial accounts when Arulex, among others, is listed as a corporate body of Intercon Financial Bank.
Hendrik Croes is a Managing Director of Arulex N.V.
INTERCON FINANCIAL BANK N.V.
Business address PUNTA BRABO Z/N, ORANJESTAD WEST
Legal form LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY
Name of the company INTERCON FINANCIAL BANK N.V.
Statutory seat ARUBA
Date of incorporation 8 DECEMBER 1989
DIRECTORS - AUTHORIZED PERSONS AND CORPORATE BODIES - SUPERVISORY BOARD:
ARULEX N.V.
Established at ARULEX CENTER, PUNTA BRABO Z/N, ORANJESTAD, ARUBA
Position MANAGING DIRECTOR
Since 8 DECEMBER 1989 ****************************************************************
ARULEX N.V.
Business address PUNTA BRABO Z/N, ORANJESTAD WEST
Legal form LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY
Name of the company ARULEX N.V.
Statutory seat ARUBA
Date of incorporation 28 MARCH 1973
Last amendment in the articles 20 JULY 1988
DIRECTORS - AUTHORIZED PERSONS AND CORPORATE BODIES - SUPERVISORY BOARD:
CROES, HENDRIK SEFERINO;
Residing in SEROE PITA 22, PARADERA, ARUBA
Born in ARUBA on 8 JANUARY 1942
Nationality DUTCH
Position MANAGING DIRECTOR
Effective 19 SEPTEMBER 1975 Authority FULL
TCHONG, PETRUS JOANNES;
Residing in BYRONSTRAAT 13, ORANJESTAD, ARUBA
Born in ARUBA on 26 DECEMBER 1944
Nationality DUTCH Position MANAGING DIRECTOR
Effective 26 OCTOBER 1995
Authority FULL
WEVER, IRIS;
Residing in ESMERALDA 37, NOORD, ARUBA
Born in THE NETHERLANDS, NIJMEGEN on 8 FEBRUARY 1965
Nationality DUTCH
Position MANAGING DIRECTOR
Effective 1 SEPTEMBER 1997
Authority FULL
WEVER-CROES, EVELYN CHRISTINA;
Residing in SEROE BLANCO 245, ORANJESTAD, ARUBA
Born in ARUBA on 5 DECEMBER 1966
Nationality DUTCH
Position MANAGING DIRECTOR
Effective 11 MARCH 2004
Authority FULL
PASSCHIER, DAVID MARTIN;
Residing in SEROE BIENTO 15-A, SANTA CRUZ, ARUBA
Born in ARUBA on 14 OCTOBER 1973
Nationality DUTCH
Position MANAGING DIRECTOR Effective 11 MARCH 2004
Authority FULL
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #4
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More background on Hendrick...
Hendrik S. Croes (Aruba 1942) Admitted to practice Aruba 1967, Netherlands Antilles 1967 and Supreme Court of the Kingdom of the Netherlands 1967. Educated at Leiden University LL.M. 1967.
Minister of Education and Constitutional Affairs 1973-76, Minister of Justice and Constitutional Affairs 1979-81, Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Preparing Aruba for New Constitutional Status 1984-85 and Minister of Public Health Sept 1985 to Dec 1985 Netherlands Antilles. Minister of Justice Feb 1989 to March 1993 Aruba. Member Kingdom Committee to advise on all aspects of Aruba's independence 1982 and Member Kingdom Committee to advise on the relations with European Union 2004.
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Quote from: MumInOhio on August 14, 2008, 10:38:32 PM
Lala’s…
Leila and AG…AUA - Another Useless Acronym
Clues on Nativelingo…
NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 4:54 pm
Natalee’s mother just spotted walking in the renaissance mall. Kid you NOT….
NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 4:56 pm
She’s with a group of people, and looks rather “slow”….decoy?? I can’t imagine that..
NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 4:58 pm
No Idea mwood, I own a store in the mall, and 3 other tenants have called me sofar with the same story…. WTH????
arubagirl on June 11th, 2005 5:00 pm
Oh, you do native? I was just there today.
NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 5:02 pm
Been there for 7 years…….
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2005/06/11/natalee-holloway-comments-post-4/#comments
NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 9:31 pm
Arubagirl….have you ever been to maui?
NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 9:49 pm
Arubagirl…..true….I had the same experiences here and in the US
NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 10:27 pm
Arubagirl…astrid is just 14 years old….. a smart 14 yr old
NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 10:35 pm
Biggy….r u from aua?
Biggy on June 11th, 2005 10:36 pm
Yes but living across the atlantic for 2 years now
FYI...Red met Native Lingo and AG when he was on Aruba...he knows who they are. NL last name at the time was Croes if I remember correctly and she owned a business on Aruba in the mall.
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #4
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Quote from: MumInOhio on August 15, 2008, 07:19:08 AM
Bringing this post of mine forward as I still need help...
Reply #949 on: April 25, 2008, 02:59:29 PM » Rob
Caps there are 5 Dirty Hands
Dirty Hand
DirtyHand
Dirty hand
dirty hand
dirtyhand
Shango on June 27th, 2005 9:44 pm
Babalu opened a window looking into babylon on his 12:31 A.M. Post
DirtyHand is alive
Shango on June 27th, 2005 9:48 pm
Babalu knew who dirty hand was at half past 12
Help! I am a little confused, as usual with Shango and his posts. Isn’t he saying here that DirtyHand and dirty hand are the same person? I like Rob always thought there was 5...now I am not so sure.
Shango says there
are
many dirty hands. I take that to mean there is more than one...would that not fit what Shango said was a window also? van der Straten, Duetekom...etc. Shango meant one in particular in certain posts, but he called one an Arawak Dirty Hand and also said dirty hand is not an Arawak. So by that, I am thinking there is more than one.
Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 6:19 pm
There are
many DirtyHands
among the Arawak, and so it has been for centuries…
Shango Says:June 26th, 2005 at 9:19 pm
DirtyHand is not an Arawak
The singing card can not be played
The cowboys would circle the wagons
The arawaks are preparing the sacrifice
light the fires
the gods are talking
Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 5:32 pm
The sacrifice is the correct food to appease the gods, arawaks, and cowboys
but the foundations of the house of babylon will shake
even harder if
Arawak Dirty Hand
is revealed
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COLOMBO
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #4
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Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:42 pm
Arawaks hold singing card from babylon
There is also a trio. One Babylonian. 2 Shivas.
Arawaks can’t let babylonian Card (DirtyHand) sing because
hand holding it dirty too.
Many
teepees fall
. No Wampum.
(Arawaks worried about teepees)
Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 10:01 pm
Arawaks often go
to play
in small houses of Babylon with the
offspring of the Elder
s
------->
Babalú Says: June 27th, 2005 at 12:30 am
Concerned: No, I guess he is head of some
local official
corps (ARAWAK!). He is the guy that knows everything and that has been in the house of Babylonians NOT seeking pleasure for himself, so Shango says. So maybe he went to search for Natalee (TO PLAY!) and he is the chief of Polis.
The Arawaks want the truth to come out
As long as DirtyHand is not found
Gods of the cowboys know there was
a game
in the great house,
and so DirtyHand was discovered
http://www.ca11.uscourts.gov/opinions/ops/200214306.pdf
(pg 4: the "game")
DirtyHand is not a child of Babylon
He holds the real key (key to what? the car or the house? the third act?)
The Arawaks fear his exposure
Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 11:43 pm
Mary rolled into the maze
to play with lions
but
it was not a game
the lamb ran bleating (they "play" in the maze-but this was not a "game")
Shango Says: June 28th, 2005 at 12:23 am
Follow the notes
to the poison house (DirtyHand holds the real key)
where the children of the babylonians (who play in the maze)
and the arawak nation (Arawaks!)
meet
, under cover of delusion.
(DirtyHand is the link!)
In the maze
the lions which play
shall be found.
The gamblers also took note.
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #4
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August 15, 2008, 04:29:45 PM »
Quote from: COLOMBO on August 15, 2008, 04:27:01 PM
Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:42 pm
Arawaks hold singing card from babylon
There is also a trio. One Babylonian. 2 Shivas.
Arawaks can’t let babylonian Card (DirtyHand) sing because
hand holding it dirty too.
Many
teepees fall
. No Wampum.
(Arawaks worried about teepees)
Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 10:01 pm
Arawaks often go
to play
in small houses of Babylon with the
offspring of the Elder
s
------->
Babalú Says: June 27th, 2005 at 12:30 am
Concerned: No, I guess he is head of some
local official
corps (ARAWAK!). He is the guy that knows everything and that has been in the house of Babylonians NOT seeking pleasure for himself, so Shango says. So maybe he went to search for Natalee (TO PLAY!) and he is the chief of Polis.
The Arawaks want the truth to come out
As long as DirtyHand is not found
Gods of the cowboys know there was
a game
in the great house,
and so DirtyHand was discovered
http://www.ca11.uscourts.gov/opinions/ops/200214306.pdf
(pg 4: the "game")
DirtyHand is not a child of Babylon
He holds the real key (key to what? the car or the house? the third act?)
The Arawaks fear his exposure
Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 11:43 pm
Mary rolled into the maze
to play with lions
but
it was not a game
the lamb ran bleating (they "play" in the maze-but this was not a "game")
Shango Says: June 28th, 2005 at 12:23 am
Follow the notes
to the poison house (DirtyHand holds the real key)
where the children of the babylonians (who play in the maze)
and the arawak nation (Arawaks!)
meet
, under cover of delusion.
(DirtyHand is the link!)
In the maze
the lions which play
shall be found.
The gamblers also took note.
Arawak Dirty Hand=Arawaks "playing" in the maze
the fifth suspect has a history of making himself out to be something he is not.....an Arawak! (No wonder he played the babylonian card!)
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #4
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Dirty Hand=singing card=5th suspect????
Are they one and the same?
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COLOMBO
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #4
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Reply #1387 on:
August 15, 2008, 08:30:20 PM »
Quote from: Lala'sMom on August 15, 2008, 04:41:24 PM
Dirty Hand=singing card=5th suspect????
Are they one and the same?
DirtyHand=singing card (babylonian, not Arawak...links young babylonians & Arawaks)
Arawak Dirty Hand (<many> "Arawaks often go to play.....")
fifth suspect (a lowly minion) has a history of making himself something he's not-an Arawak! a 'fallen judge'
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #4
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August 15, 2008, 10:12:09 PM »
Quote from: Lala'sMom on August 14, 2008, 11:59:08 PM
Why would the singing card and Dirty Hand be the same person?
Simian Says: June 26th, 2005 at 2:58 pm
The music man’s song was not on the bill.
Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:09 pm
Simian, who else plays in the orchestra? A Babylonian….
Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:10 pm
Simian, older PVDS had one ot two cards up his sleeve. They have been played, and lost. Will one of the cards sing?
And the Arawaks
keep their singing card hidden
as well
The fallen judge and
the singing card
are of the same hand, but
it is dangerous for the Arawaks to play it, because everyone would hear, including the cowboys
Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:48 pm
The card of babylon was already played
if it sings, DirtyHand will bring down the Royal House on top of the Arawak Nation
Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 10:53 pm
DirtyHand is the key
He walks with the elders
He walks in all houses
And
he walked with the fallen elder
he was the hidden card that was played
now if he sings, babylon will fall on the arawak nation
Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 6:13 pm
His lordship did not bring the key, it does not exist.
doors to eden remain closed.
The
arawaks hold the singing cards.
They have the babylonian and 2 shivas.
But the other card is dirty.
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Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:10 pm
Simian, older PVDS had one ot two cards up his sleeve. They have been played, and lost. Will one of the cards sing?
he (DirtyHand) was the hidden card (one of two) that was played (by PVDS)
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #4
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Reply #1390 on:
August 16, 2008, 09:09:47 AM »
Quote from: Lala'sMom on August 15, 2008, 11:10:39 AM
Quote from: MumInOhio on August 15, 2008, 07:19:08 AM
Bringing this post of mine forward as I still need help...
Reply #949 on: April 25, 2008, 02:59:29 PM » Rob
Caps there are 5 Dirty Hands
Dirty Hand
DirtyHand
Dirty hand
dirty hand
dirtyhand
Shango on June 27th, 2005 9:44 pm
Babalu opened a window looking into babylon on his 12:31 A.M. Post
DirtyHand is alive
Shango on June 27th, 2005 9:48 pm
Babalu knew who dirty hand was at half past 12
Help! I am a little confused, as usual with Shango and his posts. Isn’t he saying here that DirtyHand and dirty hand are the same person? I like Rob always thought there was 5...now I am not so sure.
Shango says there
are
many dirty hands. I take that to mean there is more than one...would that not fit what Shango said was a window also? van der Straten, Duetekom...etc. Shango meant one in particular in certain posts, but he called one an Arawak Dirty Hand and also said dirty hand is not an Arawak. So by that, I am thinking there is more than one.
Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 6:19 pm
There are
many DirtyHands
among the Arawak, and so it has been for centuries…
Shango Says:June 26th, 2005 at 9:19 pm
DirtyHand is not an Arawak
The singing card can not be played
The cowboys would circle the wagons
The arawaks are preparing the sacrifice
light the fires
the gods are talking
Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 5:32 pm
The sacrifice is the correct food to appease the gods, arawaks, and cowboys
but the foundations of the house of babylon will shake
even harder if
Arawak Dirty Hand
is revealed
Babalú on June 27th, 2005 12:30 am
Concerned
No, I guess he is head of some local official corps. He is the guy that knows everything and that has been in the house of Babylonians NOT seeking pleasure for himself, so Shango says. So maybe he went to search for Natalee and he is the chief of Polis.
Shango on June 27th, 2005 9:44 pm
Babalu opened a window looking into babylon on his 12:31 A.M. Post
DirtyHand is alive
Shango on June 27th, 2005 9:48 pm
Babalu knew who dirty hand was at half past 12
Lala’s…
Baby steps…So Babalu opened the window on DirtyHand and knew who dirty hand was in the same post? Thanks..
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #4
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Reply #1391 on:
August 16, 2008, 11:06:36 AM »
Quote from: Lala'sMom on August 15, 2008, 11:02:27 AM
Quote from: MumInOhio on August 14, 2008, 10:38:32 PM
Lala’s…
Leila and AG…AUA - Another Useless Acronym
Clues on Nativelingo…
NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 4:54 pm
Natalee’s mother just spotted walking in the renaissance mall. Kid you NOT….
NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 4:56 pm
She’s with a group of people, and looks rather “slow”….decoy?? I can’t imagine that..
NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 4:58 pm
No Idea mwood, I own a store in the mall, and 3 other tenants have called me sofar with the same story…. WTH????
arubagirl on June 11th, 2005 5:00 pm
Oh, you do native? I was just there today.
NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 5:02 pm
Been there for 7 years…….
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2005/06/11/natalee-holloway-comments-post-4/#comments
NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 9:31 pm
Arubagirl….have you ever been to maui?
NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 9:49 pm
Arubagirl…..true….I had the same experiences here and in the US
NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 10:27 pm
Arubagirl…astrid is just 14 years old….. a smart 14 yr old
NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 10:35 pm
Biggy….r u from aua?
Biggy on June 11th, 2005 10:36 pm
Yes but living across the atlantic for 2 years now
FYI...Red met Native Lingo and AG when he was on Aruba...he knows who they are. NL last name at the time was Croes if I remember correctly and she owned a business on Aruba in the mall.
When I read the following, it reminded me of Charles Croes' post on the aruba.com message board....I just don't have that handy, nor do I remember the date, but believe it was soon after Natalee's family & friends arrived.
NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 11:42 am
Leila, I agree, but looking at the MAGNITUDE and
far-reaching implications
of this case, I think it will affect the father…..
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #4
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Reply #1392 on:
August 16, 2008, 02:31:07 PM »
Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on August 16, 2008, 11:06:36 AM
Quote from: Lala'sMom on August 15, 2008, 11:02:27 AM
Quote from: MumInOhio on August 14, 2008, 10:38:32 PM
Lala’s…
Leila and AG…AUA - Another Useless Acronym
Clues on Nativelingo…
NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 4:54 pm
Natalee’s mother just spotted walking in the renaissance mall. Kid you NOT….
NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 4:56 pm
She’s with a group of people, and looks rather “slow”….decoy?? I can’t imagine that..
NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 4:58 pm
No Idea mwood, I own a store in the mall, and 3 other tenants have called me sofar with the same story…. WTH????
arubagirl on June 11th, 2005 5:00 pm
Oh, you do native? I was just there today.
NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 5:02 pm
Been there for 7 years…….
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2005/06/11/natalee-holloway-comments-post-4/#comments
NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 9:31 pm
Arubagirl….have you ever been to maui?
NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 9:49 pm
Arubagirl…..true….I had the same experiences here and in the US
NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 10:27 pm
Arubagirl…astrid is just 14 years old….. a smart 14 yr old
NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 10:35 pm
Biggy….r u from aua?
Biggy on June 11th, 2005 10:36 pm
Yes but living across the atlantic for 2 years now
FYI...Red met Native Lingo and AG when he was on Aruba...he knows who they are. NL last name at the time was Croes if I remember correctly and she owned a business on Aruba in the mall.
When I read the following, it reminded me of Charles Croes' post on the aruba.com message board....I just don't have that handy, nor do I remember the date, but believe it was soon after Natalee's family & friends arrived.
NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 11:42 am
Leila, I agree, but looking at the MAGNITUDE and
far-reaching implications
of this case, I think it will affect the father…..
Just saw it yesterday, but of course couldn’t find it…Found it on Fok…Look at the date????
----------------------------------------------------------------------------CHARLES CROES - WHAT HAPPENED?
http://bb.visitaruba.com/showthread.php?p=18418
June 2, 2005
Author: Charles (—.setardsl.aw) Date: 06-02-05 09:01
There are issues in this case that can go beyond the obvious in their implications. It will take time for all the information regarding this lovely child to come out. Some of it will be hard to handle and some of it will be expected. With regards to the family of this missing child, my prayers are with you. I was with them on the first night they arrived to ARuba (looking for their daughter) from midnight until 5:30 AM and have kept in touch. In my opinion, this issue has far reaching implications for all those involved. I wish all of us strength
charles croes aruba
fastphones.com
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Quote from: MumInOhio on August 16, 2008, 02:31:07 PM
Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on August 16, 2008, 11:06:36 AM
Quote from: Lala'sMom on August 15, 2008, 11:02:27 AM
Quote from: MumInOhio on August 14, 2008, 10:38:32 PM
Lala’s…
Leila and AG…AUA - Another Useless Acronym
Clues on Nativelingo…
NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 4:54 pm
Natalee’s mother just spotted walking in the renaissance mall. Kid you NOT….
NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 4:56 pm
She’s with a group of people, and looks rather “slow”….decoy?? I can’t imagine that..
NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 4:58 pm
No Idea mwood, I own a store in the mall, and 3 other tenants have called me sofar with the same story…. WTH????
arubagirl on June 11th, 2005 5:00 pm
Oh, you do native? I was just there today.
NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 5:02 pm
Been there for 7 years…….
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2005/06/11/natalee-holloway-comments-post-4/#comments
NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 9:31 pm
Arubagirl….have you ever been to maui?
NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 9:49 pm
Arubagirl…..true….I had the same experiences here and in the US
NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 10:27 pm
Arubagirl…astrid is just 14 years old….. a smart 14 yr old
NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 10:35 pm
Biggy….r u from aua?
Biggy on June 11th, 2005 10:36 pm
Yes but living across the atlantic for 2 years now
FYI...Red met Native Lingo and AG when he was on Aruba...he knows who they are. NL last name at the time was Croes if I remember correctly and she owned a business on Aruba in the mall.
When I read the following, it reminded me of Charles Croes' post on the aruba.com message board....I just don't have that handy, nor do I remember the date, but believe it was soon after Natalee's family & friends arrived.
NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 11:42 am
Leila, I agree, but looking at the MAGNITUDE and
far-reaching implications
of this case, I think it will affect the father…..
Just saw it yesterday, but of course couldn’t find it…Found it on Fok…Look at the date????
----------------------------------------------------------------------------CHARLES CROES - WHAT HAPPENED?
http://bb.visitaruba.com/showthread.php?p=18418
June 2, 2005
Author: Charles (—.setardsl.aw) Date: 06-02-05 09:01
There are issues in this case that can go beyond the obvious in their implications. It will take time for all the information regarding this lovely child to come out. Some of it will be hard to handle and some of it will be expected. With regards to the family of this missing child, my prayers are with you. I was with them on the first night they arrived to ARuba (looking for their daughter) from midnight until 5:30 AM and have kept in touch. In my opinion, this issue has far reaching implications for all those involved. I wish all of us strength
charles croes aruba
fastphones.com
Mrs. Charles Croes?
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Quote from: MumInOhio on August 16, 2008, 02:31:07 PM
Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on August 16, 2008, 11:06:36 AM
Quote from: Lala'sMom on August 15, 2008, 11:02:27 AM
Quote from: MumInOhio on August 14, 2008, 10:38:32 PM
Lala’s…
Leila and AG…AUA - Another Useless Acronym
Clues on Nativelingo…
NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 4:54 pm
Natalee’s mother just spotted walking in the renaissance mall. Kid you NOT….
NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 4:56 pm
She’s with a group of people, and looks rather “slow”….decoy?? I can’t imagine that..
NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 4:58 pm
No Idea mwood, I own a store in the mall, and 3 other tenants have called me sofar with the same story…. WTH????
arubagirl on June 11th, 2005 5:00 pm
Oh, you do native? I was just there today.
NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 5:02 pm
Been there for 7 years…….
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2005/06/11/natalee-holloway-comments-post-4/#comments
NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 9:31 pm
Arubagirl….have you ever been to maui?
NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 9:49 pm
Arubagirl…..true….I had the same experiences here and in the US
NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 10:27 pm
Arubagirl…astrid is just 14 years old….. a smart 14 yr old
NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 10:35 pm
Biggy….r u from aua?
Biggy on June 11th, 2005 10:36 pm
Yes but living across the atlantic for 2 years now
FYI...Red met Native Lingo and AG when he was on Aruba...he knows who they are. NL last name at the time was Croes if I remember correctly and she owned a business on Aruba in the mall.
When I read the following, it reminded me of Charles Croes' post on the aruba.com message board....I just don't have that handy, nor do I remember the date, but believe it was soon after Natalee's family & friends arrived.
NativeLingo on June 11th, 2005 11:42 am
Leila, I agree, but looking at the MAGNITUDE and
far-reaching implications
of this case, I think it will affect the father…..
Just saw it yesterday, but of course couldn’t find it…Found it on Fok…Look at the date????
----------------------------------------------------------------------------CHARLES CROES - WHAT HAPPENED?
http://bb.visitaruba.com/showthread.php?p=18418
June 2, 2005
Author: Charles (—.setardsl.aw) Date: 06-02-05 09:01
There are issues in this case that can go beyond the obvious in their implications. It will take time for all the information regarding this lovely child to come out. Some of it will be hard to handle and some of it will be expected. With regards to the family of this missing child, my prayers are with you. I was with them on the first night they arrived to ARuba (looking for their daughter) from midnight until 5:30 AM and have kept in touch. In my opinion, this issue has far reaching implications for all those involved. I wish all of us strength
charles croes aruba
fastphones.com
Yes, having spent hours on RWV, message boards and especially here, I knew it was soon after Beth & company arrived on Aruba. Thank you, Mum for spending the time to find it with the date. Now, could NativeLingo be CC's young wife, or am I off the beaten path...which is okay....It's the S&S thread and I'm consistently lost.
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Sorry messed up the link...didn't go there so I don't even know if it still works!
http://bb.visitaruba.com/showthread.php?p=18418
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Quote from: MumInOhio on August 16, 2008, 02:41:56 PM
Sorry messed up the link...didn't go there so I don't even know if it still works!
http://bb.visitaruba.com/showthread.php?p=18418
Yes, it still works. I didn't notice a messed up link...maybe I can fix it.
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Hi 2NJSons...Well Lala's posted that her name was Croes...She's been to the US and Maui...Owns a shop in the Renaissance Mall, which is pricey.
What else do we know about Charles Croes wife?
I am still wondering who the 14 year old Astrid is, some-one NativeLingo knows, as I didn't see Astrid post that herself!
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Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on August 16, 2008, 02:44:08 PM
MUM!!!
It has the date tied into the link where I first posted it...I think...
It is either Charles, his wife or they are posting from the same script.
Great catch 2NJS..
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