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« Reply #1940 on: October 10, 2008, 08:26:51 PM »

DirtyHand holds the key to the secrets of the SlanderFoot Clan
And who has the Elder SlanderFoot contacted in Babylon? (listening to elder)
Hidden whispers, plans for the future.
OMERTA    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omerta

Let's try this:

Van der Straaten holds the key to the secrets of the van der Sloots.
And who has Paulus contacted in Holland?
Secret plans being made
Mafia connections.


Replace any name you want in there as Dirty Hand and see how it works.  Now, you have to ask yourself what did that poster know and how?  Interesting thoughts to say the least.


Shango Says:June 26th, 2005 at 9:19 pm
DirtyHand is not an Arawak

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:35 pm
DirtyHand is not an Arawak

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:42 pm
Arawaks hold singing card from babylon
There is also a trio. One Babylonian. 2 Shivas.
Arawaks can’t let babylonian Card sing because hand holding it dirty too. (Arawak dirty hand)

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 10:01 pm
Arawaks often go to play (the game) in small houses of Babylon with the offspring of the Elders

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 10:37 pm
DirtyHand is not a child of Babylon (child of Arawak?)

but the foundations of the house of babylon will shake
even harder if Arawak Dirty Hand is revealed (Babalu....DirtyHand=the link)

Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 10:55 pm
Why do they leave the Maze open?
Why hasn’t an Arawak probed it’s fetid depths. (!!!???)

Shango Says: June 28th, 2005 at 12:11 am
All the Arawaks know the Maze which plays the poison songs (dirty Hand!)

Seek ye DirtyHand and the Fetid Arawak King who wishes to blame the babylonians (JVDS, K2) for the behaviour of lowly minions (elder, DirtyHand).

Colombo - definition of 'Fetid"

fetid
One entry found.

Main Entry: fet·id 
Pronunciation: \ˈfe-təd, especially British ˈfē-tid\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin foetidus, from foetēre to stink
Date: 15th century
: having a heavy offensive smell <a fetid swamp>

—Synonyms - malodorous, smelly, noisome.

...why he leaves all his dead dogs there...

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« Reply #1941 on: October 10, 2008, 08:30:30 PM »

SS...from what Johan and I went over a while back and some old posts I found, 1991 doesn't add up! Plus Anita said 1990 in the interview she did defending Lorenzo they don't know!


the Lorenzo that drove a polis car....at least on one occasion???? wonder whether they caught him carrying the keys

LOL COLOMBO,  I have read that there were 2 Lorenzo's, which is the one that drove the police car?

Please?....Thanks!

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2007/06/26/aruba-lorenzo-van-rijn-suspects-custody-extended-one-happy-drug-bust/#more-4392




LOL...I am confused...do you think that was Lorenzo?

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« Reply #1942 on: October 10, 2008, 08:37:07 PM »

SS...Two Steve Croes...Of Course...

 

Somebody got paid big bucks to think all this out...

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« Reply #1943 on: October 10, 2008, 08:58:41 PM »

SS...from what Johan and I went over a while back and some old posts I found, 1991 doesn't add up! Plus Anita said 1990 in the interview she did defending Lorenzo they don't know!


the Lorenzo that drove a polis car....at least on one occasion???? wonder whether they caught him carrying the keys

LOL COLOMBO,  I have read that there were 2 Lorenzo's, which is the one that drove the police car?

Please?....Thanks!

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2007/06/26/aruba-lorenzo-van-rijn-suspects-custody-extended-one-happy-drug-bust/#more-4392




LOL...I am confused...do you think that was Lorenzo?



the one that drove the polis car
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« Reply #1944 on: October 10, 2008, 09:10:29 PM »

Checkme sounds like a male to me....

757. Checkme   
Should NH’s family face the fact that she may never be recoverd? Does she have info so that she knows she will be recovered? Or are we seeing the process of denial-anger-acceptance? I think the boyz did not do anything. I am happy I always dropped my dates off at their door and checked that they went in OK. Something like this could have happened to me the same. I do believe she was nabbed before she reached her hotel room. Swimming out of the question, current does not take you away at palm beach… But after she was nabbed by bad adults, possibly even people here for the soul festival, “disposed off” at the north coast. I can also believe that the boyz saw how NH was nabbed but left her anyhow, lied about it etc.

729. Checkme   
I consider myself pretty intelligent and so do those around me. But I have done some very stupid things that could have gotten me hurt or killed. I have just been very lucky. At 18, I felt nothing could hurt me. Especially not right after graduating from high school. I am not saying anything about NH. Just saying that this could have happened to me, having nothing to do with, or maybe because of, my (supposedly) intelligent brain.

699. Checkme   
Sorry for the delay.
Lucy, you did get the name right this time (van Rijn versus van Sijn). He is absoluteley not related to the vdSloots. I read this too some places and it made me lol.
I guess it’s the nature of people but the junk that gets thrown around in these rooms is incredible. The moderators are doing a fine job keeping it all in check (no pun intended)
Many people seem to think this has to do with sex, rape and slavery. I just don’t think so.
Have you checked back with “blogger info”? He talked about and agency called ICE and agents going through venezuela…

659. Checkme   
Vanessa, please, don’t act like that, how old are you? Why are you asking me if I am male/female? You have not been paying attention. Ask CRS, he/she will be able to tell you my gender. Where are you from? Do you really want to know about this area of the world? Why are you reading these blogs? How come you know you care for me?

652. Checkme   
Vanessa,
Backround info, it is scary, on one hand, that persons whom I do not know, get to know me while I am online, on the other hand I sense some distrust. Knowing that the topic we talk about involves a young woman and an entire nation with peoples there is no doubt in my mind that we have onlookers that have agendas. However, I cannot help but share what I hear, see and know so that the world may know the Truth. That’s all. I have shared a couple of times that what happened to Joran could have happened to me many times, adolescent innocence, in a grown up world.

568. Checkme   
I came here around the same time, 1969. Things have changed indeed.

570. Checkme   
Sigur cu si, playa a keda playa.
My first girlfriend (Colombiana) also went to school in Massachusetts… many moons ago.

Checkme Says:
June 24th, 2005 at 9:11 pm
Ally, don’t. I would not want my woman to talk like that to another man.

233. Checkme   
Ally, how was your bday? Sounds like you had a very fun time… 32 did you say?
Jun 27, 1:26 PM —

217. Checkme   
Checkme is a man, who does not want to teach Ally’s man anything. Ally should take a vacation to Aruba, alone. But considering the topic we are all talking about I think that is suggestion in vain. LOL…

169. Checkme   
Simian does not always say the Truth. The double makes it harder to read him sometimes.
Jun 28, 1:44 PM —

150. Checkme   
Hey you ally, read your posts. Missed you too. Now I have to worry every damn day you go to work???

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« Reply #1945 on: October 10, 2008, 09:38:39 PM »

Lala's - this is for you     allyinmiami knew all of them.  I wonder if simian, merian ernest, and checkme were all Armin??? 

374. ydave   
Elaine said it all. Paul Van Der Sloot knows the aruban justice system, and believes he can beat it. The Kalpoes and Steve Croes believed in him, and son Joran continues to believe in him. Mother VDS believe her husband want to beat the system. Checkme and simian are Paul VDS spokepersons.


342. Checkme   
Simian,
I cannot agree yet that they have hard evidence against PvdS and that that is the reason for arresting him. There could very well be holes, conflicts, suspucions and accusations against him. It seems that the results are in from the Dutch forensics (why so very late). Possibly comparing DNA samples with NH parents. vdS could be covering something and the hard evidence could show this, but this will still not implicate a criminal act. It would have to be cells from NH in that case.
Did anybody notice that “all of a sudden” the MSM is using the words “kidnap” more often?
The joke about the arrest is not funny.

354. Simian   
The Kalpoes know nothing. They will remain locked up for lying and obstructing the investigation.
Did I say something about a blue van? I don’t think so.
However, I feel CheckMe is jumping on my bandwagon. E ta OK swa…

359. ydave   
Checkme and simian coordinated their story about blue van, and their arrival on this forum, to shift the focus on something else.
But Paul and Joran van der Sloot, and the Kalpoes know where Natalee is. And pressure will be exerted on them to tell the truth.

296. Checkme   
Lucy, could be, Simian’s posts have been strange lately… I have been lucky I have not been cloned

250. Babalú   
Regalee
Tomorrow the’ll let Steve go and nothing much will happen. But the day after tomorrow, they’ll bring again whom Simian calls suspect #5, which I think is the Lorenzo guy, which by the way, Checkme has been talking about him for a long time now. I think he is the guy in the blue van with the huge speakers on top. On Shango’s terms, I dont’t know if he ’s a Babylonian, an Arawak or a Sumerian. He’s probably a Fu__ing A– Hole.

Simian Says:
June 28th, 2005 at 2:01 am
The Simian is getting out. Knows Shango, knows Shock me, knows Checkme. Do not underestimate the power of the ping. Shango is a dumb copycat. Maybe the Simian should place a call on you. Get you 8 days with a hole to take a dump in. Complementary peanut butter on stale bread for you, you fool. The Simian is angry. Over and out.

190. Simian   
The Simian doesn’t make predictions. Only gives the group information ahead of time. Predictions are for fools. This is the Simian.
(I thought he told VMS that he just reported only what was already in the news!

169. Checkme   
Simian does not always say the Truth. The double makes it harder to read him sometimes.

260. ydave   
Gare du Nord is Checkme.

50. ydave   
New girl and Checkme are afraid of the truth, because it involves Paulus and Joran VDS.
They are part of the team sent to distract readers and true Monkeys.

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« Reply #1946 on: October 10, 2008, 09:55:34 PM »

Well, for what it's worth, I have always thought Checkme was
Charles Croes.
I know that Lalas will correct me, but his writing style and old
maidishness figure right into that thought process, as well as
his protecting Joran.
 
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« Reply #1947 on: October 11, 2008, 06:12:32 AM »

Weren’t they all protecting Joran?

Seems the cast is getting bigger…What about Shock, Gordo and Alcazar?

One knew Simian would come back in another form, which he did a couple of hours later as Mono. Shango saying "Goodbye" wasn't that final to me, but one poster sure read it that way!

Also seems to be confusion over whether a few of them were male or female? Simian, Checkme … and even Shango has been questioned here as being a bitchy female.

Then we have posters like Native Lingo mimicking Charles’s post of June 2nd, think there are one or two others as well that copied him.

Maybe one of the scriptwriters was female…or just old-maidish!
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« Reply #1948 on: October 12, 2008, 09:01:44 AM »

Weren’t they all protecting Joran?

Seems the cast is getting bigger…What about Shock, Gordo and Alcazar?

One knew Simian would come back in another form, which he did a couple of hours later as Mono. Shango saying "Goodbye" wasn't that final to me, but one poster sure read it that way!

Also seems to be confusion over whether a few of them were male or female? Simian, Checkme … and even Shango has been questioned here as being a bitchy female.

Then we have posters like Native Lingo mimicking Charles’s post of June 2nd, think there are one or two others as well that copied him.

Maybe one of the scriptwriters was female…or just old-maidish!




 
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« Reply #1949 on: October 12, 2008, 10:26:36 AM »

Lala's & Mum   as I was snooping around for Florida 'information sites' this one just caught my eye    Something to do with the 'title' 


https://www.searchsystems.net/link_login.php

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Attorneys - Elder Law
Description: Search the membership directory of the Academy of Florida Elder Law Attorneys by name, company, an/or city.

 

 
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« Reply #1950 on: October 12, 2008, 07:58:54 PM »

Lala's & Mum   as I was snooping around for Florida 'information sites' this one just caught my eye    Something to do with the 'title' 


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Interesting what you can find that rings a bell, isn't it?
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« Reply #1951 on: October 14, 2008, 07:18:48 AM »

Reviewing Freddy...again...

First one with Freddy and Deepak footage at C&C's. The other two after he was arrested.



New charges for Joran?
Aug. 23: Beth Holloway Twitty and former FBI Profiler Clint Van Zandt talk to Joe about the desperate search for answers about what happened the night Natalee Holloway disappeared. While prime suspect Joran Van der Sloot remains in jail several women have reportedly come forward claiming that they have been drugged and sexually assaulted by Joran in the past. Beth, Clint, and Joe tell you what this could mean to the Natalee investigation.



Aruba arrests
Aug. 26: MSNBC-TV's Lisa Daniels discusses the arrest of Deepak and Satish Kalpoe and a young man named Freddy A with a panel. The Kalpoes are brought in by the prosecutor on suspicion of rape and murder in connection with the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.




Aruba arrests
Aug. 26: Aruban authorities re-arrested Deepak and Satish Kalpoe on suspicion of rape and murder in the Holloway case. MSNBC-TV's Dan Abrams talks to Natalee's father, Aruban attorneys and journalists.

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« Reply #1952 on: October 14, 2008, 07:48:30 AM »

Another video discussing Freddy's arrest.

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« Reply #1953 on: October 14, 2008, 08:49:56 AM »

VMS - do you think that the confusion about Freddy's name was because of media errors in the very beginning, or do you think that it was a concerted effort by the higher powers to protect him?  I do think that there is a Freddy Zedan with a sister named Natasha Zedan, but is he the person that we have been led to believe he is?
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« Reply #1954 on: October 14, 2008, 08:53:00 AM »

Steve Croes' Mother:

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« Reply #1955 on: October 14, 2008, 08:55:34 AM »

This is Freddy Zedan and Natasha Zedan with the man who I believe is the mysterious Mr. Zedan before he "died".  Julia Renfro was part of the information about Freddy's father being ill and dying.  Was this part of her disinformation campaign?  From what we have learned Freddy was connected to Julia with the pornography videos.  Was Julia protecting him?
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« Reply #1956 on: October 14, 2008, 08:59:31 AM »

VMS - do you think that the confusion about Freddy's name was because of media errors in the very beginning, or do you think that it was a concerted effort by the higher powers to protect him?  I do think that there is a Freddy Zedan with a sister named Natasha Zedan, but is he the person that we have been led to believe he is?

Well IMO, the media made a lot of errors in the beginning in the push and/or competition to be the first to get the reports on air. I think Freddy is the same Freddy from the beginning but I also believe the Steve Croes shown and reported in the media was the one arrested and not someone else...if that makes sense...Laughing
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« Reply #1957 on: October 14, 2008, 09:04:15 AM »

Steve Croes' Mother:





I can see a resemblance in the face. Do we have a picture of Steve's father?  Our elusive friend found some information in a government data base that said Steve's father was Hendrick Croes.  I think we have pretty much determined that this Hendrick Croes is not the brother of Rudy, but could be a relative.  We have also heard that Steve's father owns the newspaper on Curacao and/or is some kind of a government official or lawyer.  Do we have any information on this guy.  Steve has been a pretty high profile suspect for three and a half years, but his father is a mystery.  Why has he been protected from the media?  I think we also finally figured out that Rufo's wife is the sister of Steve's father, because Steve's grandparents also have the last name Croes.
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« Reply #1958 on: October 14, 2008, 09:07:12 AM »

This is Freddy Zedan and Natasha Zedan with the man who I believe is the mysterious Mr. Zedan before he "died".  Julia Renfro was part of the information about Freddy's father being ill and dying.  Was this part of her disinformation campaign?  From what we have learned Freddy was connected to Julia with the pornography videos.  Was Julia protecting him?

I dunno, SS. That was from the bartender contest in November of 2006. That guy could just be another bartender at the Marriott...
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« Reply #1959 on: October 14, 2008, 09:16:17 AM »

VMS - the batender photograph was different.  It was a group shot.  This photograph was found when I visited Natasha once.  The bartender photograph is below.

An additional thought - wasn't Steve Croes originally implicated as the DJ in Amy Bradley's disappearance?
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