Natalee Case Discussion #756 6/5 -6/8/08

[Miss Scarlet]

FOM - I'll do a search and see if I can find it that way.  Maybe I'll get lucky 

O/T - Found it 

Look at this image close up and you will see Albert Einstein, step a few feet away and you will see Marilyn Monroe!

It does!  Weird.

[Miss Scarlet]

http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/136581/f376f0d3/joran_op_vakantie.html%5B/img%5D




Poor Joran 

That's Joran?  For real? 

The shirt the girl is wearing . . . 

[Tamikosmom]

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0508/02/ng.01.html

GRACE: Welcome back, everybody. I`m Nancy Grace. We are live in Aruba. And the search that goes on for Natalee Holloway.

To Jossy Mansur, with "Diario" newspaper. Jossy, what`s the latest regarding the search for Joran Van Der Sloot`s shoes? Now, didn`t he tell police he lost them that night? How do you lose your shoes?

MANSUR: He did say that he lost two shoes, blue and white, tennis- type shoes. But I want to show you a picture, if I can.

GRACE: OK. OK.

MANSUR: And I will hold it to my chest.

GRACE: Before we lose the -- hold on. OK, go ahead.

MANSUR: Look at Joran`s shoes here in this photo.

GRACE: OK. Zoom in, Liz.

MANSUR: Do those look to you like blue or white or tennis-type shoes?

GRACE: No.

MANSUR: They look like boots, no?

GRACE: They look like boots. They look like work boots.

MANSUR: Brown boots. OK.

GRACE: Now, wait a minute...

MANSUR: He was wearing those at...

GRACE: Was that what he was wearing the night Natalee went missing?

MANSUR: Yes, ma`am. This is the photo -- 
You see, when all this became so complicated about the shoes, we went back in our files and we started to look at all of the pictures that we have. And we find some very interesting one, including this one that shows what he was wearing that night.

GRACE: Uh-oh, the Bruno Maglis of the Holloway case.

Everybody, with me is Jossy Mansur. Let`s see if we can zoom back in on that. Jossy, I didn`t realize at first what you were showing me.

What you`re seeing, according to Jossy with "Diario," is a photo from the night Natalee went missing and all this business about his blue and white K-Swiss size 14s is B.S. That`s a technical legal term, because here are his feet, unless Mansur has somehow Photo Shopped another foot on him.

You know, so, Jossy, have you handed this over to police?

MANSUR: Yes, we have. We did so today. We hand everything over to the police, because I have total confidence in our police corps. I think they`re doing a good job.

I think that, in the beginning, there was some interference because they had some problems with the minister. But then everything fell into place. Now we have a new team working on this. And my confidence has not slackened in our police force one second.

GRACE: With us, Jossy Mansur with "Diario" there in Aruba. And cases have been cracked on things a lot less minor than a missing shoe, which leads us to the question, if the shoes don`t matter, why would he continue to lie about them? Do they hold evidence?


So, to the police, Urine claimed that he lost blue and white sneakers.  Those would have been the ones in the award presentation, not the plain white K-Swiss sneakers that he wore in the interview and bought in the US as a limited edition during the Spring of 2005.  He was either lying to the police or lying in the interview.  How unusual.  The K-Swiss sneakers that were recently found near the lighthouse are not blue and white. 

It was determined that Jossy was mistaken regarding the date that the photo was taken.  It was a photo taken prior to May 29, 2005.

Janet

[friend of monkeys]

scarlett..i know...freaky isn't it...?

p.s. your avatar is perfect

[klaasend]

Thanks FOM 

[klaasend]

Janet - Yes, we corrected Jossy while he was still on the air, lol

[Miss Scarlet]

scarlett..i know...freaky isn't it...?

p.s. your avatar is perfect

Thanks!  CBB is sooo talented!   

[friend of monkeys]

Thanks FOM 

seriously, u are amazing...glad u are feeling better too !

ughhhh,,,as far as the shoes......mama mia...my head still hurts..trying to figure it out

[friend of monkeys]

scarlett..i know...freaky isn't it...?

p.s. your avatar is perfect

Thanks!  CBB is sooo talented!   

we are a lucky bunch of bannanas..i am computer illiterate...lol.Klass always helps me get dressed -other wise i'd be one nakked monkey....lol

[friend of monkeys]

Janet - Yes, we corrected Jossy while he was still on the air, lol

nice...... monkeys rule

keep the faith..for Natalee

[klaasend]

Sam Sam is a bar in Hua Hin Thailand.  It's on the coast:

[friend of monkeys]

i rather joran be in jail.  glad he is not in the US.

[Tamikosmom]

Janet - Yes, we corrected Jossy while he was still on the air, lol

 

Nevertheless ... Joran claims in his June 9, 2005 declaration that his shoes were "white shoes" or "cream coloured boots".  The in his June 14, 2005 declaration ... Joran describes his shoes as "white and blue".

Then on the Greta interview he implies the missing shoes were identical to the pair he was wearing.  The pair he was wearing were solid white.

 

Janet

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Joran Van der Sloot
Suspect Statement
June 9, 2005

I wore a white/blue shirt, a blue/white jeans trouser or a three-quart black trouser and a couple of white shoes or crème coloured boots.


Joran Van der Sloot
Suspect Statement
June 14, 2005

I told Deepak that I left my shoes at the Marriot Hotel. Deepak told me not to worry that he would go back the next day and pick them up for me. I had left a pair of white and blue shoes of the make "K-Swiss", size "14" on the beach. These shoes I bought in the USA.

[klaasend]

i rather joran be in jail.  glad he is not in the US.

I agree!

[friend of monkeys]

i rather joran be in jail.  glad he is not in the US.

I agree!

ugghh..he is a pathological and sociopathic perverted nut job.  I can not decipher the trail of his lies.
"Red foot, blue foot, i'm a lying vandersloot.."
We all know he used, abused, and killed Nat.
He should be the target of hunting rifles, not cameras at the SAM SAM

[Observer]

i rather joran be in jail.  glad he is not in the US.

I agree!

ugghh..he is a pathological and sociopathic perverted nut job.  I can not decipher the trail of his lies.
"Red foot, blue foot, i'm a lying vandersloot.."
We all know he used, abused, and killed Nat.
He should be the target of hunting rifles, not cameras at the SAM SAM

"Red foot, blue foot, i'm a lying vandersloot.."
Well said FOM 

[friend of monkeys]

karma will get him..i have faith in karma.

nite monkeys

[klaasend]

Nite FOM

[Patti]

That's Joran in the Middle East?

He looks like Paulus!

He looks old and perverted!

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Klaas:

I have a double post on the front page.

Can you please take out the first one I posted?

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Hello Everyone...

[klaasend]

Patti - yes, Joran in Thailand May 2, 2008.

Deleted that duplicate post for you!