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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #757 6/8 -
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Reply #120 on:
June 09, 2008, 09:00:04 PM »
AHATA’s CEO Rob Smith give positive results
Monday, 09 June 2008
Last week, the Aruba Tourism and Hotel Association (AHATA) held a very informative and positive meeting for members of the press and executives in the tourism sector. The event was held at Mr. Jazz in the Paseo Herencia Mall and sponsored by Caribbean Mercantile Bank.
AHATA’s CEO Rob Smith led the meeting giving a positive presentation including recent tourism statistics and results as well as future projections referencing the economic situation in the USA as 70% of Aruba’s visitors are from USA.
The current cutbacks recently announced by American Airlines was also explained by Smith. He stated that any decrease in airlift to Aruba, even as slight as it is for Aruba compared to other Caribbean destinations will affect the island, but it will not be a devastating situation as other carriers can fill the transportation schedule to Aruba.
Good news is that on May 29, 2008, Aruba received an 'A'long term and an 'A-2'short term rating. Aruba's per capita GDP exceeded 25K in 2007 compared to 17K in 1997. 47% increase. The Tourism Sector has demonstrated flexibility and adaptability to external conditions
Smith took this opportunity to explain the recent restructuring of tourism professionals in AHATA: Rob Smith -President & CEO, Sanju Luidens-Daryanani -Director of Destination Marketing, Nathaly Wouters -Manager Revenue Development Finance & Administration, Sherry Bidgood-Flanegin-Project Manager E-Commerce, Doreen Boekhoudt -Director of Membership, PR and Communication, Anky Bruin -Office Manager, Ayerim Maduro -Meetings & Events Services Coordinator, colleen Lessard-NA Leisure Sales Manager, Adwina Arends -COOP Advertising Manager ATA/AHATA, Pim Geerdink -Trainee, StendenUniversity
2008 BOARD OF DIRECTORS: Officers of the Board: Ewald Biemans -Bucuti -Chairman, Alex Nieuwmeyer -DiviResorts -1stVice Chairman, Warren Stanley -Atlantis -2ndVice Chairman, Javier Wolter -Caribbean Mercantile Bank -Treasurer, Lisette Malmberg -De Palm Tours -Secretary
2008 BOARD OF DIRECTORS: Directors: Eduardo de Veer -Renaissance Aruba, Joe Najjar -La Cabana Beach & Racquet Club, Rick Zeolla -Aruba Marriott Resort, Guillermo Valencia -Holiday Inn SunSpreeResort, Gary Jutz -Radisson Aruba Resort & Spa, Andres Pichardo-Occidental Grand Aruba, Matt Balcik -Westin Aruba, Peter Steinmetz -Aruba Airport Authority.
The event concluded with an additional announcement of the retirement of CMB President Bill Carson and the promotion of Javier Wolters to take over his position. Carson is a long time friend of Aruba and although he and his wife Joy will be retiring in Florida, their son Justin will continue to reside on the island.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #757 6/8 -
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Quote from: Buckeye on June 09, 2008, 08:51:15 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on June 09, 2008, 08:39:37 PM
Quote from: ******* on June 09, 2008, 08:19:05 PM
Arashi Beach is over by the lighthouse.
http://www.bridgeandtunnelclub.com/bigmap/outoftown/aruba/arashibeach/index.htm
Thank you Buckeye.
Joran, Deepak and Satish all declared in their May 31, 2005 statements that they drove to the lighthouse with Natalee but ... all three stories differ in regards to why they never got out.
No cross examination by interrogators from the getgo.
Janet
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Joran van der Sloot
Witness Statement
May 31, 2005
The girl then had told me that she wanted to go to the North Coast to see sharks. I had told her that there were no sharks to be seen at the North Coast. She answered that there were sharks there and that she had seen them already. We decided to drive into that direction then.
We had driven to the "Lighthouse". On the way there the girl had asked us where we were taking her. She further told us to bring her to the Holiday Inn because the next day she would have to travel back to the United States.
We drove past the Lighthouse and after that to the Holiday Inn Hotel.
Deepak Kalpoe
Witness Statement
May 31, 2005
I drove at the request of the girl in the direction of the Lighthouse, because the girl wanted to see it.
After we drove up along side the Lighthouse, I returned to the Sasakiweg (main road?). Joran told me that the girl had fallen asleep.
Satish Kalpoe
Witness Statement
May 31, 2005
In the car, the white blonde said girl said to Joran that they should go to the North side of Aruba to see sharks. Deepak decided to drive to the North side of Aruba so that the girl could see sharks. I saw that when we were on the way to the Lighthouse, Joran was kissing and started fingering the girl. I could not hear what Joran and the girl said because the music in the car was very loud.
When we arrived at the Lighthouse, I asked my brother if Joran and the girl would get out of the car to see the sharks. I told my brother that Joran and the little girl were kissing and that they probably would not leave the car.
Well, there are Fishermen Huts at Arashi and Joran's statement of May 31 does have the addendum about going in the water....
Considering Joran, Deepak and Satish declare in their respective May 31, 2005 statements that they did not get out of the vehicle at the Lighthouse ... "Natalee wanted to go back to the hotel." ... "Natalee and Joran were kissing." ... "Natalee was asleep" ... I tend to believe the addendum to Joran's May 31, 2005 statement was referring to the Marriot Beach. I could be wrong.
Janet.
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I, Shanira Baldrik Kelly, officer at the Korps Police Aruba, at the Recherche district 2, state the following:
On Tuesday May 31 2005 around 11:20 I, Kelly have interrogated J.A. VAN DER SLOOT.
During the interrogation I, KELLY, have asked the witness, who was in the company of his father if they had stopped somewhere before they dropped of the girl at the hotel.
The witness VAN DER SLOOT had told me that they, in the neighborhood of the Fisherman's huts had stopped briefly.
I, KELLY had further asked the witness VAN DER SLOOT if they had went in the water. The witness VAN DER SLOOT answered that he and the girl only had went into the water up to their feet. During me putting the statement on paper I KELLY, have forgotten to put this in the statement.
Of which I KELLY, made under oath of duty closed and signed on Bubali May 31 2005.
SB Kelly. (signed)
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Same article I posted a few days ago but in english. Confirmation that Valentijn will be headed to Emerson College in Boston.
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Valentijn will be best served to keep a low profile while attending college in Boston.
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Quote from: klaasend on June 09, 2008, 09:29:11 PM
Valentijn will be best served to keep a low profile while attending college in Boston.
Someone here noted that Emerson has a campus in The Netherlands -- I bet THAT is where he will be heading.
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Janet
DEEPAK 6/11/2005 STATEMENT and ADDENDUM
“I had been driving on, in the direction of Arashi. When I arrived at Arashi I stopped the car on the asphalted section. I got out because I had to take a pee”
Sander June 16:
Joran said that they drove in the direction the "Lighthouse" and that the girl in the neighborhood of Arashi fell asleep. Joran said they turned around at the “Lighthouse”
Not sure I think they were at the beach...but if they were, I think Arashi....more secluded and known for nightime beach parties...
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #757 6/8 -
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Quote from: klaasend on June 09, 2008, 09:29:11 PM
Valentijn will be best served to keep a low profile while attending college in Boston.
Somebody will kill him, Paulus, IMHO.
I don't think he'll live to meet his roomie, dude.
You're all just as stupid as everyone thought you were... arrogant SOB too.
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Quote from: klaasend on June 09, 2008, 09:29:11 PM
Valentijn will be best served to keep a low profile while attending college in Boston.
You got that right.
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http://capslockwizard.spaces.live.com/photos/
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Nine kids in the graduating class and the top two are headed for the same college? It sounds like ISA has a sweet deal with Emerson College.
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Quote from: Buckeye on June 09, 2008, 09:32:25 PM
Janet
DEEPAK 6/11/2005 STATEMENT and ADDENDUM
“I had been driving on, in the direction of Arashi. When I arrived at Arashi I stopped the car on the asphalted section. I got out because I had to take a pee”
Sander June 16:
Joran said that they drove in the direction the "Lighthouse" and that the girl in the neighborhood of Arashi fell asleep. Joran said they turned around at the “Lighthouse”
Not sure I think they were at the beach...but if they were, I think Arashi....more secluded and known for nightime beach parties...
I don't have a clue.
Joran changed his story later on to imply that they never drove to the Lighthouse but ... the Kalpoes maintain they did. Other than Deepak's declaration which states he got out of the vehicle to relieve himself ... there is no indication that they ever got out of the vehicle.
EXCEPT!!!
The June 10, 2005 Confession that "Something bad happened" ...
Why was Natalee's family search for her at "the old stone lighthouse beside Arisha beach"?
Janet
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Aruba Case Appears Stalled
ORANJESTAD, Aruba, June 12, 2005
Holloway's family rushed late Friday to an old stone lighthouse beside Arisha beach after Deputy Police Commissioner Gerold Dompig told The Associated Press that one of three young men in custody admitted that "something bad happened" to Holloway and was leading police to the scene of the alleged crime.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/06/10/national/main700829.shtml
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Quote from: ******* on June 09, 2008, 09:00:04 PM
AHATA’s CEO Rob Smith give positive results
Monday, 09 June 2008
Last week, the Aruba Tourism and Hotel Association (AHATA) held a very informative and positive meeting for members of the press and executives in the tourism sector. The event was held at Mr. Jazz in the Paseo Herencia Mall and sponsored by Caribbean Mercantile Bank.
AHATA’s CEO Rob Smith led the meeting giving a positive presentation including recent tourism statistics and results as well as future projections referencing the economic situation in the USA as 70% of Aruba’s visitors are from USA.
The current cutbacks recently announced by American Airlines was also explained by Smith. He stated that any decrease in airlift to Aruba, even as slight as it is for Aruba compared to other Caribbean destinations will affect the island, but it will not be a devastating situation as other carriers can fill the transportation schedule to Aruba.
Good news is that on May 29, 2008, Aruba received an 'A'long term and an 'A-2'short term rating. Aruba's per capita GDP exceeded 25K in 2007 compared to 17K in 1997. 47% increase. The Tourism Sector has demonstrated flexibility and adaptability to external conditions
Smith took this opportunity to explain the recent restructuring of tourism professionals in AHATA: Rob Smith -President & CEO, Sanju Luidens-Daryanani -Director of Destination Marketing, Nathaly Wouters -Manager Revenue Development Finance & Administration, Sherry Bidgood-Flanegin-Project Manager E-Commerce, Doreen Boekhoudt -Director of Membership, PR and Communication, Anky Bruin -Office Manager, Ayerim Maduro -Meetings & Events Services Coordinator, colleen Lessard-NA Leisure Sales Manager, Adwina Arends -COOP Advertising Manager ATA/AHATA, Pim Geerdink -Trainee, StendenUniversity
2008 BOARD OF DIRECTORS: Officers of the Board: Ewald Biemans -Bucuti -Chairman, Alex Nieuwmeyer -DiviResorts -1stVice Chairman, Warren Stanley -Atlantis -2ndVice Chairman, Javier Wolter -Caribbean Mercantile Bank -Treasurer, Lisette Malmberg -De Palm Tours -Secretary
2008 BOARD OF DIRECTORS: Directors: Eduardo de Veer -Renaissance Aruba, Joe Najjar -La Cabana Beach & Racquet Club, Rick Zeolla -Aruba Marriott Resort, Guillermo Valencia -Holiday Inn SunSpreeResort, Gary Jutz -Radisson Aruba Resort & Spa, Andres Pichardo-Occidental Grand Aruba, Matt Balcik -Westin Aruba, Peter Steinmetz -Aruba Airport Authority.
The event concluded with an additional announcement of the retirement of CMB President Bill Carson and the promotion of Javier Wolters to take over his position. Carson is a long time friend of Aruba and although he and his wife Joy will be retiring in Florida, their son Justin will continue to reside on the island.
This guy is off his flippin' nut.
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Quote from: Rob on June 09, 2008, 09:49:05 PM
http://capslockwizard.spaces.live.com/photos/
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Quote from: ******* on June 09, 2008, 09:00:04 PM
AHATA’s CEO Rob Smith give positive results
Monday, 09 June 2008
SNIP
The current cutbacks recently announced by American Airlines was also explained by Smith. He stated that any decrease in airlift to Aruba, even as slight as it is for Aruba compared to other Caribbean destinations will affect the island, but it will not be a devastating situation as other carriers can fill the transportation schedule to Aruba.
Anybody here seen any airline companies adding flights lately? Did they miss the U.S. news reports that flight fares were going to double and triple in the coming months?
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Quote from: carpe noctem on June 09, 2008, 10:10:33 PM
Quote from: ******* on June 09, 2008, 09:00:04 PM
AHATA’s CEO Rob Smith give positive results
Monday, 09 June 2008
Last week, the Aruba Tourism and Hotel Association (AHATA) held a very informative and positive meeting for members of the press and executives in the tourism sector. The event was held at Mr. Jazz in the Paseo Herencia Mall and sponsored by Caribbean Mercantile Bank.
AHATA’s CEO Rob Smith led the meeting giving a positive presentation including recent tourism statistics and results as well as future projections referencing the economic situation in the USA as 70% of Aruba’s visitors are from USA.
The current cutbacks recently announced by American Airlines was also explained by Smith. He stated that any decrease in airlift to Aruba, even as slight as it is for Aruba compared to other Caribbean destinations will affect the island, but it will not be a devastating situation as other carriers can fill the transportation schedule to Aruba.
This guy is off his flippin' nut.
With the rates going up we are going to see that only those who have to fly will fly. Most will drive to the vacation destinations. This is actually good news for tourism in the U.S. as fewer people will be leaving the country for vacations.
Smith is just doing his Monty Python routine.
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Quote from: Rob on June 09, 2008, 09:49:05 PM
http://capslockwizard.spaces.live.com/photos/
Great pics! Thanks Caps, and Rob for posting the link.
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these are NOT my images
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http://capslockwizard.spaces.live.com/photos/
My first impression from looking at these photos? Looks like a good place for kids to go hang out, park and neck (and other things) if you need a place away from public view.... is capslockwizard suggesting that this may be the actual location of where Nat was taken to begin with?
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Quote from: carpe noctem on June 09, 2008, 10:10:33 PM
This guy is off his flippin' nut.
Carpe, where they'll really get slammed is high season starting in November. People will be booking those flights in the coming months, or should I say WOULD HAVE BEEN booking their flights.
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Quote from: Dayhiker on June 09, 2008, 10:19:29 PM
Quote from: Rob on June 09, 2008, 09:49:05 PM
http://capslockwizard.spaces.live.com/photos/
Great pics! Thanks Caps, and Rob for posting the link.
Dayhiker,
don't thank Caps... thank me... he didn't share.. I did.
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===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
===> Joran Statements/PV's
===> Paulus Statements/PV's
===> Deepak Statements/PV's
===> Satish Statements/PV's
===> Misc Statements/PV's
=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
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=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
===> Hugely Popular TV Shows
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=> The Monkey Lounge
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=> Inspirational
===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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