Natalee Case Discussion #757 6/8 - 6/14/08

[klaasend]

[Rob]

Rob, What can we do to put pressure on ALE so that they will be less likely to dimiss the plight of woman? 

That website you found is now set to private.

SS - this website?

http://www.awe24.com/

that one is not set to private...Klaas found that one.

I have no idea what to do - they don't care down there.

No, the one with the pond pictures.  Only some pictures are now available.  The rest is gone.

SS
ohh... that one... you would have to ask the owner of that blog when you see him again. Someone forwarded me that link.

maybe someone asked him to remove them? I really don't know the answer.

[Rob]

Rob
That guy doesn't look like a cop, now does he?  I hope he's not the perp..he's not handcuffed and he's walking behind the cop...why am I getting angry now? 

Lala'smom
The problem we are facing was kind of touched on by wreck. There are no checks and balances in the Dutch legal system. There is no one to make sure the laws are followed. That's Parliament's job and they neglect to do anything. Congress is the oversight for the Executive branch here. And they do what the should do most of the time. On Aruba - it's full time neglect and this kind of thing is rampant.

it's literally impossible to know who that guy is.

[klaasend]

Ministerio Publico a haya PG temporal        
Saturday, 14 June 2008 - 00:00 
Ayera mainta Minister di Husticia sr. Rudy croes a duna un conferencia di prensa di ultimo ora pa elabora tocante e asunto di e PG nobo. Mr Robert Franklin Pietersz a ser nombra temporalmente, como PG nobo pa Ministerio Publico. Click play pa asina por scucha declaracion di Minister Croes:

http://www.24ora.com/content/view/5056/18/#jc_allComments

I wonder if any relation to the Pietersz at Boost Unit Aruba?

I knew that name was familiar!  Oh my goodness.

Spelling not the same but still.......    :



http://www.racejunkies.com/?

[Rob]

I enlarged it a little more

He looks like he has on the same colored pants as the cops, but I don't see a stripe down the leg.

[klaasend]

I enlarged it a little more

He looks like he has on the same colored pants as the cops, but I don't see a stripe down the leg.

[Lala'sMom]

I think that guy is going to be the perp...he doesn't look like a cop to me...I mean he isn't acting like he is a cop...well...heck...I have no idea...just need to stop thinking about it.  I could see ALE putting the rapist in the car with the victim...yes, I could see that easily.

[SS]

I think that guy is going to be the perp...he doesn't look like a cop to me...I mean he isn't acting like he is a cop...well...heck...I have no idea...just need to stop thinking about it.  I could see ALE putting the rapist in the car with the victim...yes, I could see that easily.

Could he be a lacky that the hotel sent to accompany her?

[Buckeye]

He is probably the (paid) witness to say she was coming on to the perp.  They probably have the casino employees ready to testify that she drank nothing but rum with a splash of coke. Or he could be the drug dealer in to say she bought drugs.

[SS]

Do we know the name of the hotel where she was staying?

[wreck]

Time to round-up all the black security guards on the island.

[klaasend]

Do we know the name of the hotel where she was staying?

No, the article doesn't say which hotel.

[klaasend]

O/T Watch the space shuttle Discovery land in 10 minutes:

http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html

[Pita]

Surinamese brothers sue Dr. Phil for defamation
Daily News Wire
Article Last Updated: 06/13/2008 08:52:49 AM PDT


LOS ANGELES - Two brothers who filed an $800 million defamation suit against Dr. Phil McGraw and CBS over a broadcast concerning the disappearance of Natalee Holloway are already too tarnished to claim libel, according to attorneys for the defendants.

Holloway, of Mountain Brook, Ala., was vacationing with friends on the Caribbean island resort of Aruba when the 18-year-old vanished the night of May 30, 2005. Her body was never found.

A lawsuit filed in December 2006 by Surinamese brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe maintains they were defamed in a Sept. 15, 2005, "Dr. Phil" show, when it was alleged they gave Holloway a date-rape drug and had non- consensual group sex with her. They also contend the episode implied they helped kill Holloway and dispose of her body.

The "Dr. Phil" segment included statements by Deepak Kalpoe that were "significantly manipulated and altered," the suit alleges. In addition to defamation, the Kalpoes' suit alleges invasion of privacy, emotional distress, fraud, deceit and civil conspiracy.

But in court papers filed Wednesday, attorneys for CBS, McGraw and Kay Skeeters -- widow of Jeremy Skeeters, a private investigator hired by McGraw to interview Deepak Kalpoe -- maintain the brothers are "libel-proof."

They say the brothers' reputations were irreparably stained by prior published accounts of the Holloway case, meaning they cannot claim to have been damaged by the "Dr. Phil" broadcast.

After the Kalpoes were arrested for the
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first time in June 2005, they were in custody for 25 days and became the subject of international media publicity, the defense court papers state.

Joran van der Sloot, who, like the Kalpoes, was arrested and later released, told police in June 2005 that "he thought (Deepak) had raped the girl and thereupon murdered her," the defense court papers state.

The Kalpoes also adversely affected their own reputations prior to the broadcast by falsely saying they last saw Holloway with two security guards, who were questioned and later released, defense attorneys say.

Deepak Kalpoe later confided to one of the guards that he had lied to the police and apologized for getting him and his fellow guard into "that mess," according to the defense's court papers.

The brothers also did not ask for a correction of the "Dr. Phil" broadcast in time and are limited public figures, meaning they have to prove malice by CBS and the other defendants, the defense attorneys argue.

The defense attorneys have a motion pending Aug. 5 to dismiss the case on grounds the plaintiffs' lawyers disobeyed court orders to turn over information.

http://origin.dailynews.com/breakingnews/ci_9575645

(edited to add link only)

[klaasend]

Surinamese brothers sue Dr. Phil for defamation
Daily News Wire
Article Last Updated: 06/13/2008 08:52:49 AM PDT


LOS ANGELES - Two brothers who filed an $800 million defamation suit against Dr. Phil McGraw and CBS over a broadcast concerning the disappearance of Natalee Holloway are already too tarnished to claim libel, according to attorneys for the defendants.

Holloway, of Mountain Brook, Ala., was vacationing with friends on the Caribbean island resort of Aruba when the 18-year-old vanished the night of May 30, 2005. Her body was never found.

A lawsuit filed in December 2006 by Surinamese brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe maintains they were defamed in a Sept. 15, 2005, "Dr. Phil" show, when it was alleged they gave Holloway a date-rape drug and had non- consensual group sex with her. They also contend the episode implied they helped kill Holloway and dispose of her body.

The "Dr. Phil" segment included statements by Deepak Kalpoe that were "significantly manipulated and altered," the suit alleges. In addition to defamation, the Kalpoes' suit alleges invasion of privacy, emotional distress, fraud, deceit and civil conspiracy.

But in court papers filed Wednesday, attorneys for CBS, McGraw and Kay Skeeters -- widow of Jeremy Skeeters, a private investigator hired by McGraw to interview Deepak Kalpoe -- maintain the brothers are "libel-proof."

They say the brothers' reputations were irreparably stained by prior published accounts of the Holloway case, meaning they cannot claim to have been damaged by the "Dr. Phil" broadcast.

After the Kalpoes were arrested for the
Advertisement
first time in June 2005, they were in custody for 25 days and became the subject of international media publicity, the defense court papers state.

Joran van der Sloot, who, like the Kalpoes, was arrested and later released, told police in June 2005 that "he thought (Deepak) had raped the girl and thereupon murdered her," the defense court papers state.

The Kalpoes also adversely affected their own reputations prior to the broadcast by falsely saying they last saw Holloway with two security guards, who were questioned and later released, defense attorneys say.

Deepak Kalpoe later confided to one of the guards that he had lied to the police and apologized for getting him and his fellow guard into "that mess," according to the defense's court papers.

The brothers also did not ask for a correction of the "Dr. Phil" broadcast in time and are limited public figures, meaning they have to prove malice by CBS and the other defendants, the defense attorneys argue.

The defense attorneys have a motion pending Aug. 5 to dismiss the case on grounds the plaintiffs' lawyers disobeyed court orders to turn over information.

 

[Destiny]

Does that story about the tourist that was raped indicate the nationality of the perp?  I bet he is not Dutch.  What paper was that in? 

Does anyone know the nationality of the tourist?  I sure do hope that it isn't an American citizen who didn't heed the call to boycott Aruba.  If it's an American citizen, I would like to start flooding our press with emails for coverage so that this woman doesn't get swept under the carpet like Natalee was.

SS -
you can pretty much assume it's an American due to the lack of the exact identification... they always include that...unless of course - anywhooo

I notice she is carrying a little bag from Little Switzerland - she probably didn't want to leave behind whatever is in that bag because while she was at the hospital - her room would probably be wiped clean by the black squad and all of her stuff stolen.

poor woman - I really feel bad for her

some people just don't know what's good for them or bad for them - until something happens.

Maybe Destiny could ask her source about this woman.

I will Lala's...I'll be talking with them Monday am...I have some other things to talk with them about...so I'll add this to the list....Thanks for reminding me....

Destiny

[Tamikosmom]

Surinamese brothers sue Dr. Phil for defamation
Daily News Wire
Article Last Updated: 06/13/2008 08:52:49 AM PDT


LOS ANGELES - Two brothers who filed an $800 million defamation suit against Dr. Phil McGraw and CBS over a broadcast concerning the disappearance of Natalee Holloway are already too tarnished to claim libel, according to attorneys for the defendants.

Holloway, of Mountain Brook, Ala., was vacationing with friends on the Caribbean island resort of Aruba when the 18-year-old vanished the night of May 30, 2005. Her body was never found.

A lawsuit filed in December 2006 by Surinamese brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe maintains they were defamed in a Sept. 15, 2005, "Dr. Phil" show, when it was alleged they gave Holloway a date-rape drug and had non- consensual group sex with her. They also contend the episode implied they helped kill Holloway and dispose of her body.

The "Dr. Phil" segment included statements by Deepak Kalpoe that were "significantly manipulated and altered," the suit alleges. In addition to defamation, the Kalpoes' suit alleges invasion of privacy, emotional distress, fraud, deceit and civil conspiracy.

But in court papers filed Wednesday, attorneys for CBS, McGraw and Kay Skeeters -- widow of Jeremy Skeeters, a private investigator hired by McGraw to interview Deepak Kalpoe -- maintain the brothers are "libel-proof."

They say the brothers' reputations were irreparably stained by prior published accounts of the Holloway case, meaning they cannot claim to have been damaged by the "Dr. Phil" broadcast.

After the Kalpoes were arrested for the
Advertisement
first time in June 2005, they were in custody for 25 days and became the subject of international media publicity, the defense court papers state.

Joran van der Sloot, who, like the Kalpoes, was arrested and later released, told police in June 2005 that "he thought (Deepak) had raped the girl and thereupon murdered her," the defense court papers state.

The Kalpoes also adversely affected their own reputations prior to the broadcast by falsely saying they last saw Holloway with two security guards, who were questioned and later released, defense attorneys say.

Deepak Kalpoe later confided to one of the guards that he had lied to the police and apologized for getting him and his fellow guard into "that mess," according to the defense's court papers.

The brothers also did not ask for a correction of the "Dr. Phil" broadcast in time and are limited public figures, meaning they have to prove malice by CBS and the other defendants, the defense attorneys argue.

The defense attorneys have a motion pending Aug. 5 to dismiss the case on grounds the plaintiffs' lawyers disobeyed court orders to turn over information.

http://origin.dailynews.com/breakingnews/ci_9575645

(edited to add link only)

Thank you Pita.

Janet

[Buckeye]

Surinamese brothers sue Dr. Phil for defamation
Daily News Wire
Article Last Updated: 06/13/2008 08:52:49 AM PDT


LOS ANGELES - Two brothers who filed an $800 million defamation suit against Dr. Phil McGraw and CBS over a broadcast concerning the disappearance of Natalee Holloway are already too tarnished to claim libel, according to attorneys for the defendants.

Holloway, of Mountain Brook, Ala., was vacationing with friends on the Caribbean island resort of Aruba when the 18-year-old vanished the night of May 30, 2005. Her body was never found.

A lawsuit filed in December 2006 by Surinamese brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe maintains they were defamed in a Sept. 15, 2005, "Dr. Phil" show, when it was alleged they gave Holloway a date-rape drug and had non- consensual group sex with her. They also contend the episode implied they helped kill Holloway and dispose of her body.

The "Dr. Phil" segment included statements by Deepak Kalpoe that were "significantly manipulated and altered," the suit alleges. In addition to defamation, the Kalpoes' suit alleges invasion of privacy, emotional distress, fraud, deceit and civil conspiracy.

But in court papers filed Wednesday, attorneys for CBS, McGraw and Kay Skeeters -- widow of Jeremy Skeeters, a private investigator hired by McGraw to interview Deepak Kalpoe -- maintain the brothers are "libel-proof."

They say the brothers' reputations were irreparably stained by prior published accounts of the Holloway case, meaning they cannot claim to have been damaged by the "Dr. Phil" broadcast.

After the Kalpoes were arrested for the
Advertisement
first time in June 2005, they were in custody for 25 days and became the subject of international media publicity, the defense court papers state.

Joran van der Sloot, who, like the Kalpoes, was arrested and later released, told police in June 2005 that "he thought (Deepak) had raped the girl and thereupon murdered her," the defense court papers state.

The Kalpoes also adversely affected their own reputations prior to the broadcast by falsely saying they last saw Holloway with two security guards, who were questioned and later released, defense attorneys say.

Deepak Kalpoe later confided to one of the guards that he had lied to the police and apologized for getting him and his fellow guard into "that mess," according to the defense's court papers.

The brothers also did not ask for a correction of the "Dr. Phil" broadcast in time and are limited public figures, meaning they have to prove malice by CBS and the other defendants, the defense attorneys argue.

The defense attorneys have a motion pending Aug. 5 to dismiss the case on grounds the plaintiffs' lawyers disobeyed court orders to turn over information.

http://origin.dailynews.com/breakingnews/ci_9575645

(edited to add link only)

 

Thank you Pita.

[SS]

Surinamese brothers sue Dr. Phil for defamation
Daily News Wire
Article Last Updated: 06/13/2008 08:52:49 AM PDT


LOS ANGELES - Two brothers who filed an $800 million defamation suit against Dr. Phil McGraw and CBS over a broadcast concerning the disappearance of Natalee Holloway are already too tarnished to claim libel, according to attorneys for the defendants.

Holloway, of Mountain Brook, Ala., was vacationing with friends on the Caribbean island resort of Aruba when the 18-year-old vanished the night of May 30, 2005. Her body was never found.

A lawsuit filed in December 2006 by Surinamese brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe maintains they were defamed in a Sept. 15, 2005, "Dr. Phil" show, when it was alleged they gave Holloway a date-rape drug and had non- consensual group sex with her. They also contend the episode implied they helped kill Holloway and dispose of her body.

The "Dr. Phil" segment included statements by Deepak Kalpoe that were "significantly manipulated and altered," the suit alleges. In addition to defamation, the Kalpoes' suit alleges invasion of privacy, emotional distress, fraud, deceit and civil conspiracy.

But in court papers filed Wednesday, attorneys for CBS, McGraw and Kay Skeeters -- widow of Jeremy Skeeters, a private investigator hired by McGraw to interview Deepak Kalpoe -- maintain the brothers are "libel-proof."

They say the brothers' reputations were irreparably stained by prior published accounts of the Holloway case, meaning they cannot claim to have been damaged by the "Dr. Phil" broadcast.

After the Kalpoes were arrested for the
Advertisement
first time in June 2005, they were in custody for 25 days and became the subject of international media publicity, the defense court papers state.

Joran van der Sloot, who, like the Kalpoes, was arrested and later released, told police in June 2005 that "he thought (Deepak) had raped the girl and thereupon murdered her," the defense court papers state.

The Kalpoes also adversely affected their own reputations prior to the broadcast by falsely saying they last saw Holloway with two security guards, who were questioned and later released, defense attorneys say.

Deepak Kalpoe later confided to one of the guards that he had lied to the police and apologized for getting him and his fellow guard into "that mess," according to the defense's court papers.

The brothers also did not ask for a correction of the "Dr. Phil" broadcast in time and are limited public figures, meaning they have to prove malice by CBS and the other defendants, the defense attorneys argue.

The defense attorneys have a motion pending Aug. 5 to dismiss the case on grounds the plaintiffs' lawyers disobeyed court orders to turn over information.

http://origin.dailynews.com/breakingnews/ci_9575645

(edited to add link only)

 

Thank you Pita.

Could we possibly hope that Deepak could be mad enough for some retaliation against Jordan?  We really need a canary who will start singing about what really happened that night.  If these three are pitted against each other, who knows what we could learn.

[Tamikosmom]

I cannot comprehend why Phil  McGraw requires documentation from the Natalee Holloway case file when Skeeter's hard drive should stand alone in revealing that Deepak defamed himself.

I have learned that Dutch law .... does not allow case file documentation to be released while an investigation is still ongoing.

Considering Hans Mos claims the Natalee Holloway investigation is not closed ... maybe this is the current hold-up.

++++++++++++

Greta Van Susteren
On the Record w/ Greta
December 1, 2005

VAN SUSTEREN:  We are also curious what the FBI has to say about the content of this interview. I was told by Jamie Skeeters on the phone the other night that he originally "taped" this interview directly to his computer hard drive and that he gave the hard drive to the FBI. Of course this hard drive — the "original" — is what will tell us exactly what was said or not said ...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,177286,00.html


Beth Holloway Twitty
'Rita Cosby Live & Direct'
November 30, 2005

COSBY:  So there was nothing taken out of context, as they‘re even suggesting?

TWITTY:  No, not that I could see, Rita.  But you know, I know that Jamie Skeeters will have to give the information on the tapes, but I do stand by him and his validity on the tapes, Rita.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10281941/