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« Reply #940 on: June 14, 2008, 01:54:39 PM »

I simply cannot fathom the fact that they are wasting valuable American tax payer

dollars on these two worthless Surinamese toid balls, when they aided and abetted

in the death of a United States citizen.  (a one Natalee Ann)

Only in the US of A, folks!!!

UN-FRIGGIN-BUH-LIEVABLE.
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« Reply #941 on: June 14, 2008, 01:57:00 PM »

KLAAS...just got off the phone...you are not gonna believe this!!!  Please promise me that you will take this over to the new thread, when you lock this one K?
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Straight from the mouth of the ALE...The rape victim is a US/American tourist...early 30's...staying at Holiday Inn...went to Moombas Bar...there ALE said she got very drunk...then left with THREE guys and went to the beach with them at night...TO HAVE SEX WITH THEM...sheesh...

This part reels my mind!!!...ALE told me she wanted to have sex with all 3 of the guys...sworn statements from the guys are all the same to this account...the American tourist woman only got mad when the 3 guys started taking pictures of her...so she has filed a false report to get the 3 guys in trouble...I DON'T FU*KIN' BELIEVE IT!!!

Also...they are trying to talk her out of filing charges against the 3 guys...but, she wants to pursue the charges...but...ALE told me that she got herself into this situation by getting drunk at Moombas...and leaving with 3 guys she didn't know...and ALE told me she wanted to have sex with all 3 of them...

Klaas...I will send to your banana basket the name and number of the ALE dude who told me all of this...

Destiny
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« Reply #942 on: June 14, 2008, 02:00:16 PM »

Janet

I have no legal background.

I remember Dompig saying he had four other specialists looking at the Dr. Phil tape.  It very well could be a fight of the specialists.  I believe Jaime that the tape is real and Deepak said as claimed.

You can sue a doctor because he is stupid but you must also show you were injured by his stupidity.  If you have not been injured, there is no claim, no matter how stupid he is.  It could be the same here.  Even if there is a debate regarding the tape, if the "defamed" can not show injury, then there is no reward.

IIRC  Deepak said on the tape something like, "my life is over".  Obviously, his life must have been over, before the tape was broadcast.  Not sure how he can claim Phil ended it...

Buckeye, yes, that's right. One must first possess character for it to be damaged. They were damaged before the Skeeters tapes, they damaged themselves.  Also, when the Kalpoes filed the lawsuit they knew that the documents existed (they are the suspects and have all documents) and appear to have entered the suit all the while holding back (possibly) important documents. Seems like fraud to me. It certainly would have been grounds for appeal had it ever been discovered after a verdict in the Kalpoes favor - should that exist.
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« Reply #943 on: June 14, 2008, 02:01:23 PM »

KLAAS...just got off the phone...you are not gonna believe this!!!  Please promise me that you will take this over to the new thread, when you lock this one K?
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Straight from the mouth of the ALE...The rape victim is a US/American tourist...early 30's...staying at Holiday Inn...went to Moombas Bar...there ALE said she got very drunk...then left with THREE guys and went to the beach with them at night...TO HAVE SEX WITH THEM...sheesh...

This part reels my mind!!!...ALE told me she wanted to have sex with all 3 of the guys...sworn statements from the guys are all the same to this account...the American tourist woman only got mad when the 3 guys started taking pictures of her...so she has filed a false report to get the 3 guys in trouble...I DON'T FU*KIN' BELIEVE IT!!!

Also...they are trying to talk her out of filing charges against the 3 guys...but, she wants to pursue the charges...but...ALE told me that she got herself into this situation by getting drunk at Moombas...and leaving with 3 guys she didn't know...and ALE told me she wanted to have sex with all 3 of them...

Klaas...I will send to your banana basket the name and number of the ALE dude who told me all of this...

Destiny


OMG - this is huge.  Moombas (MIP6)
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« Reply #944 on: June 14, 2008, 02:03:54 PM »

KLAAS...just got off the phone...you are not gonna believe this!!!  Please promise me that you will take this over to the new thread, when you lock this one K?
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Straight from the mouth of the ALE...The rape victim is a US/American tourist...early 30's...staying at Holiday Inn...went to Moombas Bar...there ALE said she got very drunk...then left with THREE guys and went to the beach with them at night...TO HAVE SEX WITH THEM...sheesh...

This part reels my mind!!!...ALE told me she wanted to have sex with all 3 of the guys...sworn statements from the guys are all the same to this account...the American tourist woman only got mad when the 3 guys started taking pictures of her...so she has filed a false report to get the 3 guys in trouble...I DON'T FU*KIN' BELIEVE IT!!!

Also...they are trying to talk her out of filing charges against the 3 guys...but, she wants to pursue the charges...but...ALE told me that she got herself into this situation by getting drunk at Moombas...and leaving with 3 guys she didn't know...and ALE told me she wanted to have sex with all 3 of them...

Klaas...I will send to your banana basket the name and number of the ALE dude who told me all of this...

Destiny

pretty much what I expected -

not at all shocked
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« Reply #945 on: June 14, 2008, 02:04:14 PM »

Hey ROOBIE,

Just when ya thought it was all gonna blow over...

Another fresh load drops!

Boy, dat really is a pizzer.

 
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« Reply #946 on: June 14, 2008, 02:05:59 PM »

KLAAS...just got off the phone...you are not gonna believe this!!!  Please promise me that you will take this over to the new thread, when you lock this one K?
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Straight from the mouth of the ALE...The rape victim is a US/American tourist...early 30's...staying at Holiday Inn...went to Moombas Bar...there ALE said she got very drunk...then left with THREE guys and went to the beach with them at night...TO HAVE SEX WITH THEM...sheesh...

This part reels my mind!!!...ALE told me she wanted to have sex with all 3 of the guys...sworn statements from the guys are all the same to this account...the American tourist woman only got mad when the 3 guys started taking pictures of her...so she has filed a false report to get the 3 guys in trouble...I DON'T FU*KIN' BELIEVE IT!!!

Also...they are trying to talk her out of filing charges against the 3 guys...but, she wants to pursue the charges...but...ALE told me that she got herself into this situation by getting drunk at Moombas...and leaving with 3 guys she didn't know...and ALE told me she wanted to have sex with all 3 of them...

Klaas...I will send to your banana basket the name and number of the ALE dude who told me all of this...

Destiny

 

Somebody needs to tell her not to sign a statement unless it's in English....and she needs to report it to a US media outlet so it doesn't get swept under the rug.  Hope she doesn't trust any expats....that are offering "help"....
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« Reply #947 on: June 14, 2008, 02:06:11 PM »

Thanks Destiny! All too predictable and expected!  Women get raped all over the World,but in Aruba nothing bad can ever happen so it is always the tourists fault and rapes and murders against Americans can and will never happen in Aruba.

Like Natalee,this Lady will find that the entire justice system will be on the side of the rapists and against her the victim. She has little chance of getting Justice in Aruba and her best bet is to tell her story to the American Media. If something bad does happen to a American in Aruba it is always the Americans fault.
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« Reply #948 on: June 14, 2008, 02:06:27 PM »

I do have one question

how did she get from Moombas on Palm Beach to a hotel on Eagle Beach? That's a little far to walk at night - and drunk.
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« Reply #949 on: June 14, 2008, 02:07:11 PM »

THE SHOES

I cannot leg it go ...

 

At what point in time did Joran's "blue and white" shoes which he declared in June, 2005 became "white".  Was it in March, 2006 on the Greta show when Joran pointed to the "white" shoes he was wearing and stated that they were "exactly" like the missing shoes.

In August, 2005 Aruban authories were requesting the public's assistance in locating a pair of "blue and white" shoes.

Thank you.

Janet

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Aruban police seek suspect's shoes
Another Van der Sloot interview, landfill search expected Tuesday
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ORANJESTAD, Aruba (CNN) -- Aruban authorities investigating the disappearance of Alabama teenager Natalee Holloway are looking for a pair of size-14 tennis shoes that suspect Joran van der Sloot might have lost, a police official said.

"He says he might have lost a pair of sneakers on the beach the night Natalee disappeared," said lead police investigator Roy Tromp. "That's what he claims in one of his many statements."

Tromp said the 17-year-old suspect described the shoes as white and blue and brand new.

http://edition.cnn.com/2005/LAW/08/01/aruba.missing/index.html





Janet, I am exactly where you are with the shoes.  They have been desribed as blue and white, white, sneakers, boots, etc.  Joran and ALE came up with the brand K-Swiss that were bought in the US.  Destiny found that those specific sneakers were a limited edition sold only in the US in the Spring of 2005.  The white shoes that were similar to the ones found recently and the ones that he was wearing in the interview were the limited edition K-Swiss.  The muddy ones that he was dancing in have been identified as Nike.  He couldn't have lost the K-Swiss ones if he was later wearing them in an interview.  The pair he was wearing onstage for the award look like they are blue and white.  I pretty much came to the conclusion that we may never know what sneakers he was wearing because as usual, he has given too many versions.  He's lying to prevent identification of the shoes.  I do believe that he lost one or more shoes, or it never would have been part of the statements.  A factual description of the shoe(s) was probably never given.  I guess we could eliminate various shoes through pictures taken after Natalee disappeared.  I have pretty much given up on the shoes because there's no way to find truth in his lies.  My biggest concern is, "where are Natalee's sandals?".  I hope that they have found Joran's sneaker's in the pond because it would at least eliminate the beach lies.

SS ... thank you for your response.

The dancing photo of Joran wearing tan boot-like shoes ... the photo revealed by Jossy Mansur turned out to have been taken prior to May 29, 2005.

Nevertheless ... Joran did imply in his June 9, 2005 declaraction that he wore "crème coloured boots".

Thanks again for your response.

Janet

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I wore a white/blue shirt, a blue/white jeans trouser or a three-quart black trouser and a couple of white shoes or crème coloured boots.


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I told Deepak that I left my shoes at the Marriot Hotel. Deepak told me not to worry that he would go back the next day and pick them up for me. I had left a pair of white and blue shoes of the make "K-Swiss", size "14" on the beach. These shoes I bought in the USA.



I was going crazy over the sneakers about a week ago.  Rob identified those dirty dancing shoes as Nikes after someone enlarged them and lightened the photograph.  The sneakers that he is wearing in that award picture are definitely blue and and white.  The sneakers that he is wearing in the Tampa Mall look like they are probably a different pair altogether.  The ones in the interview are K-Swiss white.  I picked up on the use of the word "boot" by both Joran and Jossy Mansur.  I wondered if they were possibly a pair of Uggs that he had been wearing.  There are just so many possibilities, he has changed the description several times, and I just finally decided that there would be no way to know for sure what he was wearing that night unless we could somewhere find a picture.  I wonder if the casinos cameras from earlier in the day would have a shot of his feet.
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« Reply #950 on: June 14, 2008, 02:07:48 PM »

Destiny - I've added your post and the original of Rob's regarding this rape victim to the new thread.  Thanks!
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« Reply #951 on: June 14, 2008, 02:08:03 PM »

Guess they didn't get those tourist, security, webcams, for the beaches.....installed yet...
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« Reply #952 on: June 14, 2008, 02:10:20 PM »

I wonder if the casinos cameras from earlier in the day would have a shot of his feet.
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SS: from what I saw he was wearing white sneakers in the casino video. The video was very poor so I could not tell exactly what type of shoes he was wearing earlier that night.
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« Reply #953 on: June 14, 2008, 02:10:50 PM »

ROBOTS HAAAAAATES THEM ALLLLLLLLLLL!!!
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« Reply #954 on: June 14, 2008, 02:10:55 PM »

I do have one question

how did she get from Moombas on Palm Beach to a hotel on Eagle Beach? That's a little far to walk at night - and drunk.

Maybe the hotel she was staying at was in Eagle Beach.  She could have been simply hanging out at Moombas.
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« Reply #955 on: June 14, 2008, 02:10:55 PM »

I'll earth google this new crime in one second.

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« Reply #956 on: June 14, 2008, 02:11:21 PM »

Klaas...banana basket...

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« Reply #957 on: June 14, 2008, 02:14:35 PM »

I do have one question

how did she get from Moombas on Palm Beach to a hotel on Eagle Beach? That's a little far to walk at night - and drunk.

Maybe the hotel she was staying at was in Eagle Beach.  She could have been simply hanging out at Moombas.

Destiny's source said she was staying at the Holiday Inn.
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« Reply #958 on: June 14, 2008, 02:15:24 PM »

I'll earth google this new crime in one second.

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« Reply #959 on: June 14, 2008, 02:16:05 PM »

I'll earth google this new crime in one second.

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You'za earth googlin' fooooooo, bro bro!!!

The images kick butt too,

I'm loving 'em. Good work!

Did u buy that?   Or is it the free download???
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