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« Reply #260 on: June 15, 2008, 02:35:13 PM »

Destiny - in due respect, there is nothing upscale about Moomba's.  It's a bar and a restaurant on the beach in Aruba.  Nothing fancy or upscale about the restaurant or bar.

http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/1401214942046394805TETsEC

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http://travel.webshots.com/photo/2279111790062685536InSMtS

Klaas...is the link I posted for MoomBas...not the right Moombas? 
The photos in the link look very different....maybe a remodel job?

TIA....Des
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« Reply #261 on: June 15, 2008, 02:47:42 PM »

I just wanted to wish a Happy Father's Day ...

Take a look at the FP post and watch the video ... I think Father's Day may be put into a perspective that few of us ever thought about.

Its a must see video of Rick and Dick Hoyt, A fathers love for his son for the ages ...

HAPPY FATHERS DAY 2008 Ö Dick and Rick Hoyt, a Father and Sonís Love for the Ages

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/06/15/happy-fathers-day-2008-dick-and-rick-hoyt-a-father-and-sons-love-for-the-ages/
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« Reply #262 on: June 15, 2008, 03:08:19 PM »

Destiny - in due respect, there is nothing upscale about Moomba's.  It's a bar and a restaurant on the beach in Aruba.  Nothing fancy or upscale about the restaurant or bar.

http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/1401214942046394805TETsEC

http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/1401213811046394805SrUpwA

http://travel.webshots.com/photo/2473703950062685536xKCack

http://travel.webshots.com/photo/2279111790062685536InSMtS

Klaas...is the link I posted for MoomBas...not the right Moombas? 
The photos in the link look very different....maybe a remodel job?

TIA....Des

You posted the link to the correct Moomba's.  It's just that some of the photos on the website are deceptive.  It's just a beach bar and restaurant.  It's not a fancy restaurant by any means.
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« Reply #263 on: June 15, 2008, 03:13:50 PM »

Whew....TY Klaas....yeppers Aruba...deceptive in all ways....
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« Reply #264 on: June 15, 2008, 03:35:35 PM »

Got it Destiny, thanks.    I had forgotten that the bar was right on the beach next to the holiday Inn.  I was thinking it was in downtown area close to C &C.  This is not the one that burned down i guess, was that No Name?  How did she end up being raped on Eagle beach some 20 to 25 minute walk south of the Holiday Inn?

It is not beyond the realm of possibility that NH was first raped in Moombas as the boys stopped there.  Could have been in the bathrooms or a downstars room.  We really do not know for sure how long they stayed in there when Depak stopped (and admitted) stopping at this bar.  MIP6 and that gang have been too against the H/T family not to have been involved.  It is my understanding that this bar has had some remodeling done.  Also something to do with a bar or some part of the HI where NH was staying.  This came from very old posts when the case first began.
I remember very clearly reading this.They could have then gone to the sloot residence, then possibly she was taken to a room back in the HI and later removed along with the bloody mattress if that did not come fro Pvs home.    Jackb

PS:  The bar that burned down was, according to what I read; Choose a Name bar.   Jackb
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« Reply #265 on: June 15, 2008, 03:36:48 PM »

Whew....TY Klaas....yeppers Aruba...deceptive in all ways....

In case you missed it, this is one of the bartenders at Moomba's, Mark Purcell's (MIP6) son:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=14761846

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« Reply #266 on: June 15, 2008, 03:38:01 PM »

Jackb - yes Choose a Name burned but so did Moomba's
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« Reply #267 on: June 15, 2008, 03:40:37 PM »

Klaas...I just got off the phone with Beach Patrol...talked with someone different than yesterday...but, someone I have talked with before in the past....I was trying to see if they have computer records of the current Eagle Beach assault on record yet...he was doing some checking for me...couldn't find that one...BUT...he did find a record from 9 days ago...of another assault reported by an AMERICAN woman by the name of xxxxxxxxxxxx...who was staying at the Marriott...this woman filed a report with beach patrol that she was assauled at the Marriot...don't know if inside or out...the hotel...he told me to call back in half an hour to talk with someone else...also said this woman is 38 yrs old...and it does not sound like the first woman at all...that first woman was staying at the Holiday Inn...

WTF is going on????

Destiny....will email her name to you in a second...gonna go smoke a ciggy...
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« Reply #268 on: June 15, 2008, 03:49:03 PM »

Klaas...I just got off the phone with Beach Patrol...talked with someone different than yesterday...but, someone I have talked with before in the past....I was trying to see if they have computer records of the current Eagle Beach assault on record yet...he was doing some checking for me...couldn't find that one...BUT...he did find a record from 9 days ago...of another assault reported by an AMERICAN woman by the name of xxxxxxxxxxxx...who was staying at the Marriott...this woman filed a report with beach patrol that she was assauled at the Marriot...don't know if inside or out...the hotel...he told me to call back in half an hour to talk with someone else...also said this woman is 38 yrs old...and it does not sound like the first woman at all...that first woman was staying at the Holiday Inn...

WTF is going on????

Destiny....will email her name to you in a second...gonna go smoke a ciggy...

I'm sure female tourists are assaulted all the time in Aruba but most go unreported. 
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« Reply #269 on: June 15, 2008, 04:06:40 PM »

Klaas...I just got off the phone with Beach Patrol...talked with someone different than yesterday...but, someone I have talked with before in the past....I was trying to see if they have computer records of the current Eagle Beach assault on record yet...he was doing some checking for me...couldn't find that one...BUT...he did find a record from 9 days ago...of another assault reported by an AMERICAN woman by the name of xxxxxxxxxxxx...who was staying at the Marriott...this woman filed a report with beach patrol that she was assauled at the Marriot...don't know if inside or out...the hotel...he told me to call back in half an hour to talk with someone else...also said this woman is 38 yrs old...and it does not sound like the first woman at all...that first woman was staying at the Holiday Inn...

WTF is going on????

Destiny....will email her name to you in a second...gonna go smoke a ciggy...

I'm sure female tourists are assaulted all the time in Aruba but most go unreported. 

The population in the county where I live is smaller but the land mass of that island is pretty much the same. The crimes of this nature is a seldom happening, a rareity here, as what is going on weekly in Aruba.  I am beginning to wonder if that island is not some kind of  experiment for the social ramifications of using Viagra.  That is some kind of creepy.  They are having trouble because they have no belief systems in place.  They have no law because they do not believe in justice or Truth.  It is like they are a stepping stone into hell.  I hope the decent people leave that island.  That is like being trapped on an island of thugs with no conscious.   Jackb
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« Reply #270 on: June 15, 2008, 04:29:34 PM »

Destiny
great job girl!! now all we need to know is:
were these three guys american.. or were they the (usual pimps.).. I seriously doubt they were american.!!! it just seems to Arubanish to me.
how do we  publicize it and make  the american public aware of the dangers of traveling to aruba....
I get so upset when I read the comments made by the ale.
Comments like the girls was drunk and wanted sex with three men!!
doesnt add up and they continue to look like fools everytime they open their mouths.
the goverment of Aruba is narcisistic!! they produce that kind of population....
as evidenced by their comments and the arogance of  the officials and the criminals...
how long will americans continue to be victimized on that god forsaken island..

it is totaly sickening what  is said and done there by  aruban officials...

boycott continues.. until we see justice served...
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« Reply #271 on: June 15, 2008, 04:46:17 PM »

so I ask!!
If there is just a tiny hint of alcohol breath (not drunk)  they will no doubt say that you were drunk.. no wonder there is so much crime in Aruba..
no one is held accountable or should I say no male is held accountable against any sex crime against a women..
It is always blamed on the female victim..
what a message they are sending...  tourists expect to go there to : relax , take in the sun, scenery  and have  themselves a few tropical drinks!!

how can these idiots expect to keep people coming to aruba if they continue to not recogize  crimes against tourists. 
they have no regards for american tourists...no respect whatsoever...
whats wrong with this picture!
what is wrong is that they have a different mind set...
they dont think or act normal..
this isnt the end of americans being victimized..

I surely hope someone gets in contact with the rape victim and enlighten her about natalee if she doesnt already know!!

I just dont see results coming from the ale they dont care...
they are lazy and dont ant to be bothered... there are no inter agaency reporting or alerts for reporting from one station to the other.. beth and dave went to several police stations and they found out that not everyone knew about natalee
how pitiful is that..
makes me sick!!!
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« Reply #272 on: June 15, 2008, 05:07:19 PM »

Destiny
great job girl!! now all we need to know is:
were these three guys american.. or were they the (usual pimps.).. I seriously doubt they were american.!!! it just seems to Arubanish to me.
how do we  publicize it and make  the american public aware of the dangers of traveling to aruba....
I get so upset when I read the comments made by the ale.
Comments like the girls was drunk and wanted sex with three men!!
doesnt add up and they continue to look like fools everytime they open their mouths.
the goverment of Aruba is narcisistic!! they produce that kind of population....
as evidenced by their comments and the arogance of  the officials and the criminals...
how long will americans continue to be victimized on that god forsaken island..

it is totaly sickening what  is said and done there by  aruban officials...

boycott continues.. until we see justice served...

The 3 rapists...were indeed locals to the island...ALE told me they were *beach bums*...whatever that menas....
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« Reply #273 on: June 15, 2008, 05:17:38 PM »

Destiny
great job girl!! now all we need to know is:
were these three guys american.. or were they the (usual pimps.).. I seriously doubt they were american.!!! it just seems to Arubanish to me.
how do we  publicize it and make  the american public aware of the dangers of traveling to aruba....
I get so upset when I read the comments made by the ale.
Comments like the girls was drunk and wanted sex with three men!!
doesnt add up and they continue to look like fools everytime they open their mouths.
the goverment of Aruba is narcisistic!! they produce that kind of population....
as evidenced by their comments and the arogance of  the officials and the criminals...
how long will americans continue to be victimized on that god forsaken island..

it is totaly sickening what  is said and done there by  aruban officials...

boycott continues.. until we see justice served...

The 3 rapists...were indeed locals to the island...ALE told me they were *beach bums*...whatever that menas....

Geoffrey Cromvroit comes to mind.  That is what he was called.  He worked beach patrol too as his daddy owned the security outfit.  They may have been involved, some of them as they have had an example set before them and probably had enough on the others no one will arrest or prosecute.  Wonder what GC was doing that night.
He was on beach patrol last I heard.    J/b
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« Reply #274 on: June 15, 2008, 05:35:09 PM »

Destiny, you have done such a fantastic job as usual!!! Keep up the great work!!

This story is unbelieveable!!! Pisses me off to no end. I commented on the front page the other day, of course these local youths are going to keep up the crimes, for crying out loud, joran killed a girl and there are pics of him partying naked on a beach!! There are just no consequences for their actions...and of course Aruba proves me right!!! Blame the victim again!!! Unbelieveable!!
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« Reply #275 on: June 15, 2008, 05:46:04 PM »

Here are some of the things Destiny learned from a phone call to ALE today:

1.  The woman was very drunk and picked up the 3 guys ALE thinks to pay them for sex
2.  They guys were referred to as "beach bums" around 20yrs old or so
3.  That she met them at the club (I'm assuming Moombas)
4.  ALE claims that they used HER camera to take photos of her.  Her husband saw the photos and that's why she is claiming she was raped (to cover her butt with her husband)
5.  She is still in Aruba because since she filed charges she has to stay

My point is it's really not LIKELY that a married woman goes to Aruba with her husband and then pays for sex with 3 locals.  Far more likely she was drunk or drugged and they took advantage of her because of course SHE WAS ASKING FOR IT (the mindset of the Aruban male).

Well if it is her camera she must have the photo's right.

I believe the husband saw the photos and they were not from her camera.  How did these guys know she had a camera.  Was she wearing the camera around her neck when she left with them or did they try and rob her and find her camera.

This is the biggest bullshit story so far.

Do we know how long she has to stay in Aruba.

San...I sent ALL/MUCH info from my call this morning to ALE...to Klaas...I requested Klaas to post only a few things that she chose to post...some would not be wise to post at this point...I will post one small item here...I was told that the ALE have in their posession the memory card to her camera...as evidence...in hopes to prove her wrong in her rape charge against the 3 locals...what will happen to that memory card....who knows...

Destiny

So if she drops the charges will she get it back?  Or will it go into the black hole that Aruba throws all the evidence into.  That black hole must be getting full 

By the way Destiny you are doing a great job with your calls.
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« Reply #276 on: June 15, 2008, 05:46:53 PM »

the three guys were beach bums!!
as in homeless... but living as bums on the beach!!
beach squatter's possibly druggies with no where to crash so they get high and hang out on the beachs.
by the way like in the scenario with natalee.
they victimize females knowing full well that they are leaving the island and wont stay to press charges.. but than came beth with all her powers ..which was not expected  of her...
the same is continuing to happen. women tourists are raped and victimized.. the police dont care and wont take it serious.. they just dont wanna be  bothered with it... theres just to much money to count.. for looking the other way!!!
Rudy croes said that joran was non grata in aruba.. I dont believe anything that comes out of their mouths.. all lies.. he could very well be there for fathers day and we dont know it.. the thailand pics could of been to throw us off ya think...
if they were serious they would make the whole bunch of sloots non grata including the kalpoes..

watch the DNA from the rape disapppear like the bodies of many did..

those idiots need a good spell of reality check
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« Reply #277 on: June 15, 2008, 05:48:29 PM »

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« Reply #278 on: June 15, 2008, 05:50:44 PM »

Destiny
great job girl!! now all we need to know is:
were these three guys american.. or were they the (usual pimps.).. I seriously doubt they were american.!!! it just seems to Arubanish to me.
how do we  publicize it and make  the american public aware of the dangers of traveling to aruba....
I get so upset when I read the comments made by the ale.
Comments like the girls was drunk and wanted sex with three men!!
doesnt add up and they continue to look like fools everytime they open their mouths.
the goverment of Aruba is narcisistic!! they produce that kind of population....
as evidenced by their comments and the arogance of  the officials and the criminals...
how long will americans continue to be victimized on that god forsaken island..

it is totaly sickening what  is said and done there by  aruban officials...

boycott continues.. until we see justice served...

The 3 rapists...were indeed locals to the island...ALE told me they were *beach bums*...whatever that menas....
It means they are friends of Renfro 
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« Reply #279 on: June 15, 2008, 05:52:44 PM »

Destiny
great job girl!! now all we need to know is:
were these three guys american.. or were they the (usual pimps.).. I seriously doubt they were american.!!! it just seems to Arubanish to me.
how do we  publicize it and make  the american public aware of the dangers of traveling to aruba....
I get so upset when I read the comments made by the ale.
Comments like the girls was drunk and wanted sex with three men!!
doesnt add up and they continue to look like fools everytime they open their mouths.
the goverment of Aruba is narcisistic!! they produce that kind of population....
as evidenced by their comments and the arogance of  the officials and the criminals...
how long will americans continue to be victimized on that god forsaken island..

it is totaly sickening what  is said and done there by  aruban officials...

boycott continues.. until we see justice served...

The 3 rapists...were indeed locals to the island...ALE told me they were *beach bums*...whatever that menas....
It means they are friends of Renfro 

 
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