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« Reply #280 on: June 15, 2008, 05:57:50 PM »

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bb ... when you consider the above quotes you provided as well as Dave's words ... I believe that Natalee Holloway may have been inebriated.

Nevertheless ... I do believe that the last drink which Joran bought for her prior from that little bar in the back of Carlos and Charlies... was spiked with a date rape drug and ... the combination ...

Yes I agree he knew with bars closing that was likely to be the last drink, and spiked it. I actually used to think it possible that maybe the bartenders spiked the drink when given a signal of some sort by Joran. I now feel Joran was the one responsible for the drug being given.

Thanks for the additional quotes Janet.
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« Reply #281 on: June 15, 2008, 05:59:06 PM »

Hell hath no fury like a woman porned!
 

true enough!  honestly bearlythere....

having said that, if these pictures can be retrieved (and they should be able to do this even with the apparent rudimentary skill available on aruba) this should help prove or disprove the accuations.
let's hope that on top of a rape kit that the ALE were also getting  blood/urine tests for this young woman, as we know GHB etc dissipate very quickly in the bloodstream but they can be verified if done quickly enough

Knowing what we know......I would have almost advised this woman to take her own urine sample and bring it back to the US for testing. Don't imagine it is totally legal for prosecution purposes, but better than nothing, worth a shot.

I was thinking the same thing, BB.
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« Reply #282 on: June 15, 2008, 06:11:15 PM »

Klaas...I just got off the phone with Beach Patrol...talked with someone different than yesterday...but, someone I have talked with before in the past....I was trying to see if they have computer records of the current Eagle Beach assault on record yet...he was doing some checking for me...couldn't find that one...BUT...he did find a record from 9 days ago...of another assault reported by an AMERICAN woman by the name of xxxxxxxxxxxx...who was staying at the Marriott...this woman filed a report with beach patrol that she was assauled at the Marriot...don't know if inside or out...the hotel...he told me to call back in half an hour to talk with someone else...also said this woman is 38 yrs old...and it does not sound like the first woman at all...that first woman was staying at the Holiday Inn...

WTF is going on????

Destiny....will email her name to you in a second...gonna go smoke a ciggy...

I bet they all get away with this because the woman run back to America get the F*ck out of Aruba.
I can't believe they gave her name to you, see woman are treated like trash in Aruba.
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« Reply #283 on: June 15, 2008, 06:12:09 PM »

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San...I sent ALL/MUCH info from my call this morning to ALE...to Klaas...I requested Klaas to post only a few things that she chose to post...some would not be wise to post at this point...I will post one small item here...I was told that the ALE have in their posession the memory card to her camera...as evidence...in hopes to prove her wrong in her rape charge against the 3 locals...what will happen to that memory card....who knows...

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If I am recalling correctly Destiny didn't the manager or bar person at Moombas say she had been there partying the past three nights? If I am correct about this it would not be unusual for the woman to bring her camera with her to the bar and take pics of herself with some of the locals. She established a pattern in going there, and probably considered them friends/acquaintances. They probably thoroughly expected her to be at the bar that night. That is my guess. So ALE will say she had already known the 3 --her camera pics will prove it. The guys set her up.
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« Reply #284 on: June 15, 2008, 06:21:32 PM »

FYI - the Help Find the Missing forum has been hacked 
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« Reply #285 on: June 15, 2008, 06:27:02 PM »

HOLY SH*T who is star

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« Reply #286 on: June 15, 2008, 06:30:37 PM »

Looks like it might be the same hacker that hacked into some of the Aruban websites.
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« Reply #287 on: June 15, 2008, 06:31:18 PM »

Posted by SunnyInTx 8/22/2006 on LCD, brought over from RU:

Another Attempted Rape Case On Aruba

From 8/22/06 Diario


Short and sweet

A 36 ye old British woman with the B.J.L.B. reported an attempted "violation" upon her person at about 8:15 am Monday morning by a man of 5' 9" height, grey eyes and brown hair. The woman was able to fight off the purported attacker and told the police that in the struggle she had marked the mans face with scratches.
THIS IS REPORTED TO HAVE OCCURED IN THE AREA OF THE FISHERMAN HUTS.

Diario is calling on the people at the High Rise hotel - some who claim to have heard and or seen the attack to come forward with information to avoid another story that could harm tourism.

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Tracey Allen, U.S. tourist, attempted assault

“Nine days” before Holloway disappearance, she was walking just after dawn near Fisherman’s Huts. (She has a time share at the Marriott.)  A man wearing only a shirt tried to drag her into his car, which was running. She reported it to the police, gave a description and license number. Never heard back from them. When she heard (re. the Holloway case) that NH had been left near the Fisherman's Huts, she contacted FBI. On March 12, 2006, she went on Fox Big Story (Rita Cosby).

http://tinyurl.com/o8h5l --
Rita: You go to the aruban authorities and you don't get any calls back from ALE?

Tracy: No, first time I was contacted the FBI took my statement and didn't contact me again until December 2 when I did the sketch

Rita: This is the sketch you contributed to ALE..is this a local guy do you think?

Tracy: I believe he was local, he had an older car, not like a newer rental car that a tourist would have.

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Woman Claims Rape Where Missing Teen Was Last Seen In Aruba

Other Vacationers Say Island Is Safe

 June 6, 2005
BOSTON -- With its year-round warmth and nearly rain-free climate, Aruba has become a vacation oasis for thousands of Massachusetts residents. But in recent days, a dark side has emerged.

NewsCenter 5's Amalia Barreda reported that a local woman said she was raped after leaving the same bar in Aruba where missing Alabama teen Natalee Holloway was last seen.

"Aruba is not as safe as the commercials make it out to be," said Marie, who withheld her last name.

Marie said she made four trips to Aruba with friends and believed the island was safe. That's why she had no qualms about traveling there alone for Christmas 2001. She stayed at the same Holiday Inn where Holloway and her high school classmates booked their rooms. On Christmas Eve, Marie said she went to Carlos 'N Charlie's, the same bar where the missing Alabama teen was last seen.

When she left, Marie said a man pulled her into his car, drove away and raped her.

"As I was being pulled into vehicle, screams came out of me that I couldn't imagine ever coming out of me of me and people did nothing," said Marie.

"I have never felt threatened, felt scared. Aruba is home away from home for me and always will be," said Neely Cosentino, an Aruba homeowner.

Cosentino said she and her husband bought a second home in Aruba and spend more than half the year there. She said they made the investment because they believe the island is safe. The government does not tolerant crime because tourism is their top industry.

"Over 500,000 tourists a year visit Aruba, and if it wasn't because of us Americans, Aruba wouldn't be the way it is. So to answer your question, there is zero tolerance for anybody that is threatening or doing any damage to Americans," said Cosentino.

Marie said she managed to get away from her assailant that night. She said she did not report the attack to island police because she was alone and afraid, but mostly because she would not have been able to identify her attacker.

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« Reply #288 on: June 15, 2008, 06:34:48 PM »

Destiny wrote;

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San...I sent ALL/MUCH info from my call this morning to ALE...to Klaas...I requested Klaas to post only a few things that she chose to post...some would not be wise to post at this point...I will post one small item here...I was told that the ALE have in their posession the memory card to her camera...as evidence...in hopes to prove her wrong in her rape charge against the 3 locals...what will happen to that memory card....who knows...

Destiny

If I am recalling correctly Destiny didn't the manager or bar person at Moombas say she had been there partying the past three nights? If I am correct about this it would not be unusual for the woman to bring her camera with her to the bar and take pics of herself with some of the locals. She established a pattern in going there, and probably considered them friends/acquaintances. They probably thoroughly expected her to be at the bar that night. That is my guess. So ALE will say she had already known the 3 --her camera pics will prove it. The guys set her up.

I agree Bleached.
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« Reply #289 on: June 15, 2008, 06:35:40 PM »

WARNING - If you are a member of the Help Find the Missing forum, it has been hacked.  If you get an email from ADMIN from the HFTM forum it is from the HACKER.  DO NOT click on any links the hacker sends you!!
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« Reply #290 on: June 15, 2008, 06:54:35 PM »

I didn't mean for everyone to stop posting here, LOL    Just wanted to warn people about the HFTM site 
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« Reply #291 on: June 15, 2008, 06:57:36 PM »

FYI - the Help Find the Missing forum has been hacked 

Klaas ... why would the forum have been hacked when it is accessible for all to see?

 

I am clueless concerning so many aspects of the computer.

Thanks

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« Reply #292 on: June 15, 2008, 07:03:41 PM »

WARNING - If you are a member of the Help Find the Missing forum, it has been hacked.  If you get an email from ADMIN from the HFTM forum it is from the HACKER.  DO NOT click on any links the hacker sends you!!

YES I got 6 I sent them to SPAM
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« Reply #293 on: June 15, 2008, 07:04:14 PM »

FYI - the Help Find the Missing forum has been hacked 

Klaas ... why would the forum have been hacked when it is accessible for all to see?

 

I am clueless concerning so many aspects of the computer.

Thanks

Janet

These hackers get their jollies out of gaining access to the site.  When they do, they have access like Admin with gives them access to emails etc. 

It has nothing to do with whether the forum is open to the public or not, it's a power thing.  The hacker gets a thrill out of gaining access and control of the forum or site. 
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« Reply #294 on: June 15, 2008, 07:05:17 PM »

Blonde - I got six as well but noticed that the last 3 had links attached in the emails.  I just wanted to warn people not to click on those links.
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« Reply #295 on: June 15, 2008, 07:13:14 PM »

FYI - the Help Find the Missing forum has been hacked 

Klaas ... why would the forum have been hacked when it is accessible for all to see?

 

I am clueless concerning so many aspects of the computer.

Thanks

Janet

These hackers get their jollies out of gaining access to the site.  When they do, they have access like Admin with gives them access to emails etc. 

It has nothing to do with whether the forum is open to the public or not, it's a power thing.  The hacker gets a thrill out of gaining access and control of the forum or site. 

Thanks Klaas.

 

Janet
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« Reply #296 on: June 15, 2008, 07:16:02 PM »

Is Destiny back on the phone?
Didn't they tell her to call back in 1/2 hour.
She is amazing by the way!!
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« Reply #297 on: June 15, 2008, 07:16:28 PM »

I'm going to be gone for a while at my inlaws for Father's Day dinner.  Be back later.
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« Reply #298 on: June 15, 2008, 07:17:21 PM »

WARNING - If you are a member of the Help Find the Missing forum, it has been hacked.  If you get an email from ADMIN from the HFTM forum it is from the HACKER.  DO NOT click on any links the hacker sends you!!


Thanks....I just got 5
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« Reply #299 on: June 15, 2008, 07:18:30 PM »

Looks like it might be the same hacker that hacked into some of the Aruban websites.


mmmmmmm......that is weird.
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