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« Reply #40 on: June 14, 2008, 04:37:00 PM »

When my daughter went to a friend's Mexican condo, their group met some locals.  They invited the locals to go with them to one of the resort's bars. The locals said, "we aren't allowed in there". Luckily, my daughter's group did not accompany the locals to their spot.  But if I was Aruba, I would crack down on the locals.  Everybody knows the game.  Time for game "over".   
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« Reply #41 on: June 14, 2008, 04:37:08 PM »

BBL Monkeys...errands to run...
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« Reply #42 on: June 14, 2008, 04:41:43 PM »

I thought this was interesting,brought over from the last thread....post made by Janet.
Same name as the new AG in aruba?


Noraina Pietersz - Defence Attorney
Associated Press
June 9, 2005

Under Aruban law, only serious suspicion from investigators not solid evidence is needed for a judge to rule that suspects can be held, Pietersz said.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8079019/
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« Reply #43 on: June 14, 2008, 04:42:57 PM »

Thanks to SS...called the HI 011l297 586 3600

Told them that I and 5 other girlfriends were planning a vacation to Aruba, and planning on staying at the HI...but, That I got an emial from one of our group...about the article regarding the assault of one of their customers...person I was talking with in english...then started talking very rapidly to someone else, another woman, I could hear them in Pap...then I was passed to another line, that was picked up by a woman named Brenda...she claimed to be the manager of HI...she said she know nothing about any assault...I told her a friend of mine had emailed me an article about the assault...Brenda then said she is going to check it out right now...that maybe an assault did take place, but it was not reported to her, because the assault happened on the beach...Brenda asked me what beach was in the article...I told her Eagle Beach...Brenda assured me and my group. that Eagle Beach was not even close to the HI...and that if there was a HI guest that got very drunk and was assaulted...they might not want to report it to the HI.  Brenda then assured me that Aruba is VERY SAFE...and that when my group gets there, to please come visit her at the HI for some complimentary goodies...nice huh...


Destiny

"Brenda" has probably been told to watch her tongue by the "Powers that be" in Aruba after being instrumental in revealing to Beth and Jug shortly after they arrived on the Island that Joran van der Sloot was not a "tourist from Holland" and ... underage Joran gambled at the Excelsior and ... Joran "preyed" on female tourists.

Janet

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Following our brief conversation, we all walk immediately to the fron desk to ask about someone named Joran who is staying in the hotel and plays in the casino here.  The Holiday Inn night manager, Brenda, knows him by name.  "Oh! yes ... yes ... Joran.  He gambles in the Excelsior Casino here.  He likes to prey on young female tourists.  Especially the blonds.   He is tall.  Good-looking boy.  Like a Dutch marine."   My mouth drops wide open.  "Where is he from?" I ask her.  She replies.  "He lives in Aruba."   I stutter.  "He's ... he's not a tourist just here for the summer?"  "Non, non," she says.

It takes a few moments to absorb this information.  The supposed tourist who befriended some of Natalee's classmates and who told them he was staying at their hotel lied tothem.  He isn't a tourist.  He isn't staying here.
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« Reply #44 on: June 14, 2008, 04:44:47 PM »

If anyone has access to CAPS, would you please contact him and alert him that an American rape victim needs help from whomever is there from the States?  Thanks.
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« Reply #45 on: June 14, 2008, 04:45:53 PM »

I thought this was interesting,brought over from the last thread....post made by Janet.
Same name as the new AG in aruba?


Noraina Pietersz - Defence Attorney
Associated Press
June 9, 2005

Under Aruban law, only serious suspicion from investigators not solid evidence is needed for a judge to rule that suspects can be held, Pietersz said.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8079019/


Thanks Karma - they will be telling us it's another one of those common names in Aruba like Croes, Tromp, etc.
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« Reply #46 on: June 14, 2008, 04:45:55 PM »

Frankly, I am surprised Brenda still has a tongue after all this time...but I digress...sorry.

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« Reply #47 on: June 14, 2008, 04:46:35 PM »

If anyone has access to CAPS, would you please contact him and alert him that an American rape victim needs help from whomever is there from the States?  Thanks.


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« Reply #48 on: June 14, 2008, 04:47:43 PM »

Thanks to SS...called the HI 011l297 586 3600

Told them that I and 5 other girlfriends were planning a vacation to Aruba, and planning on staying at the HI...but, That I got an emial from one of our group...about the article regarding the assault of one of their customers...person I was talking with in english...then started talking very rapidly to someone else, another woman, I could hear them in Pap...then I was passed to another line, that was picked up by a woman named Brenda...she claimed to be the manager of HI...she said she know nothing about any assault...I told her a friend of mine had emailed me an article about the assault...Brenda then said she is going to check it out right now...that maybe an assault did take place, but it was not reported to her, because the assault happened on the beach...Brenda asked me what beach was in the article...I told her Eagle Beach...Brenda assured me and my group. that Eagle Beach was not even close to the HI...and that if there was a HI guest that got very drunk and was assaulted...they might not want to report it to the HI.  Brenda then assured me that Aruba is VERY SAFE...and that when my group gets there, to please come visit her at the HI for some complimentary goodies...nice huh...


Destiny

"Brenda" has probably been told to watch her tongue by the "Powers that be" in Aruba after being instrumental in revealing to Beth and Jug shortly after they arrived on the Island that Joran van der Sloot was not a "tourist from Holland" and ... underage Joran gambled at the Excelsior and ... Joran "preyed" on female tourists.

Janet

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Following our brief conversation, we all walk immediately to the fron desk to ask about someone named Joran who is staying in the hotel and plays in the casino here.  The Holiday Inn night manager, Brenda, knows him by name.  "Oh! yes ... yes ... Joran.  He gambles in the Excelsior Casino here.  He likes to prey on young female tourists.  Especially the blonds.   He is tall.  Good-looking boy.  Like a Dutch marine."   My mouth drops wide open.  "Where is he from?" I ask her.  She replies.  "He lives in Aruba."   I stutter.  "He's ... he's not a tourist just here for the summer?"  "Non, non," she says.

It takes a few moments to absorb this information.  The supposed tourist who befriended some of Natalee's classmates and who told them he was staying at their hotel lied tothem.  He isn't a tourist.  He isn't staying here.

WOW Janet...so the woman who called herself Brenda *is* a manager at the HI...THANKS!!!

Destiny
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« Reply #49 on: June 14, 2008, 04:49:54 PM »

I thought this was interesting,brought over from the last thread....post made by Janet.
Same name as the new AG in aruba?


Noraina Pietersz - Defence Attorney
Associated Press
June 9, 2005

Under Aruban law, only serious suspicion from investigators not solid evidence is needed for a judge to rule that suspects can be held, Pietersz said.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8079019/


 

Great catch!!!

IIRC ... Noraina Pietersz was the Security Guard's attorney.

As Beth says everybody is related on the Island of Aruba.

 

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12205086/
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« Reply #50 on: June 14, 2008, 04:50:21 PM »

I also wonder why the 2 front desk ladies...who started feaking out in Pap...passed me off to Brenda??? I didn't ask to be connected with anyone else...

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« Reply #51 on: June 14, 2008, 04:52:40 PM »

I thought this was interesting,brought over from the last thread....post made by Janet.
Same name as the new AG in aruba?


Noraina Pietersz - Defence Attorney
Associated Press
June 9, 2005

Under Aruban law, only serious suspicion from investigators not solid evidence is needed for a judge to rule that suspects can be held, Pietersz said.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8079019/


Thanks Karma - they will be telling us it's another one of those common names in Aruba like Croes, Tromp, etc.
You're welcome Klaas
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They should just name them all like 6 different names total,so confusing.
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« Reply #52 on: June 14, 2008, 04:54:11 PM »

Thanks to SS...called the HI 011l297 586 3600

Told them that I and 5 other girlfriends were planning a vacation to Aruba, and planning on staying at the HI...but, That I got an emial from one of our group...about the article regarding the assault of one of their customers...person I was talking with in english...then started talking very rapidly to someone else, another woman, I could hear them in Pap...then I was passed to another line, that was picked up by a woman named Brenda...she claimed to be the manager of HI...she said she know nothing about any assault...I told her a friend of mine had emailed me an article about the assault...Brenda then said she is going to check it out right now...that maybe an assault did take place, but it was not reported to her, because the assault happened on the beach...Brenda asked me what beach was in the article...I told her Eagle Beach...Brenda assured me and my group. that Eagle Beach was not even close to the HI...and that if there was a HI guest that got very drunk and was assaulted...they might not want to report it to the HI.  Brenda then assured me that Aruba is VERY SAFE...and that when my group gets there, to please come visit her at the HI for some complimentary goodies...nice huh...


Destiny

"Brenda" has probably been told to watch her tongue by the "Powers that be" in Aruba after being instrumental in revealing to Beth and Jug shortly after they arrived on the Island that Joran van der Sloot was not a "tourist from Holland" and ... underage Joran gambled at the Excelsior and ... Joran "preyed" on female tourists.

Janet

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Beth Holloway
LOVING NATALEE
Page 39


Following our brief conversation, we all walk immediately to the fron desk to ask about someone named Joran who is staying in the hotel and plays in the casino here.  The Holiday Inn night manager, Brenda, knows him by name.  "Oh! yes ... yes ... Joran.  He gambles in the Excelsior Casino here.  He likes to prey on young female tourists.  Especially the blonds.   He is tall.  Good-looking boy.  Like a Dutch marine."   My mouth drops wide open.  "Where is he from?" I ask her.  She replies.  "He lives in Aruba."   I stutter.  "He's ... he's not a tourist just here for the summer?"  "Non, non," she says.

It takes a few moments to absorb this information.  The supposed tourist who befriended some of Natalee's classmates and who told them he was staying at their hotel lied tothem.  He isn't a tourist.  He isn't staying here.

WOW Janet...so the woman who called herself Brenda *is* a manager at the HI...THANKS!!!

Destiny
HAHA!Guess Brenda is going back on nights.
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« Reply #53 on: June 14, 2008, 04:54:50 PM »

I also wonder why the 2 front desk ladies...who started feaking out in Pap...passed me off to Brenda??? I didn't ask to be connected with anyone else...

Destiny

Because Brenda understands and speaks English better?
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« Reply #54 on: June 14, 2008, 04:55:11 PM »

Is this assault story a big news item in Aruba?  Were stories like this previously published in the media?

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« Reply #55 on: June 14, 2008, 04:55:24 PM »

Thanks to SS...called the HI 011l297 586 3600

Told them that I and 5 other girlfriends were planning a vacation to Aruba, and planning on staying at the HI...but, That I got an emial from one of our group...about the article regarding the assault of one of their customers...person I was talking with in english...then started talking very rapidly to someone else, another woman, I could hear them in Pap...then I was passed to another line, that was picked up by a woman named Brenda...she claimed to be the manager of HI...she said she know nothing about any assault...I told her a friend of mine had emailed me an article about the assault...Brenda then said she is going to check it out right now...that maybe an assault did take place, but it was not reported to her, because the assault happened on the beach...Brenda asked me what beach was in the article...I told her Eagle Beach...Brenda assured me and my group. that Eagle Beach was not even close to the HI...and that if there was a HI guest that got very drunk and was assaulted...they might not want to report it to the HI.  Brenda then assured me that Aruba is VERY SAFE...and that when my group gets there, to please come visit her at the HI for some complimentary goodies...nice huh...


Destiny

"Brenda" has probably been told to watch her tongue by the "Powers that be" in Aruba after being instrumental in revealing to Beth and Jug shortly after they arrived on the Island that Joran van der Sloot was not a "tourist from Holland" and ... underage Joran gambled at the Excelsior and ... Joran "preyed" on female tourists.

Janet

+++++++++++


Beth Holloway
LOVING NATALEE
Page 39


Following our brief conversation, we all walk immediately to the fron desk to ask about someone named Joran who is staying in the hotel and plays in the casino here.  The Holiday Inn night manager, Brenda, knows him by name.  "Oh! yes ... yes ... Joran.  He gambles in the Excelsior Casino here.  He likes to prey on young female tourists.  Especially the blonds.   He is tall.  Good-looking boy.  Like a Dutch marine."   My mouth drops wide open.  "Where is he from?" I ask her.  She replies.  "He lives in Aruba."   I stutter.  "He's ... he's not a tourist just here for the summer?"  "Non, non," she says.

It takes a few moments to absorb this information.  The supposed tourist who befriended some of Natalee's classmates and who told them he was staying at their hotel lied tothem.  He isn't a tourist.  He isn't staying here.

WOW Janet...so the woman who called herself Brenda *is* a manager at the HI...THANKS!!!

Destiny

IF the two "Brendas" are the same person.  How many "Brendas" do you know?  I only know one?  I would say that chances are good it is the same Brenda.

Janet
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« Reply #56 on: June 14, 2008, 04:55:51 PM »

I thought this was interesting,brought over from the last thread....post made by Janet.
Same name as the new AG in aruba?


Noraina Pietersz - Defence Attorney
Associated Press
June 9, 2005

Under Aruban law, only serious suspicion from investigators not solid evidence is needed for a judge to rule that suspects can be held, Pietersz said.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8079019/


 

Great catch!!!

IIRC ... Noraina Pietersz was the Security Guard's attorney.

As Beth says everybody is related on the Island of Aruba.

 

Janet

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Beth Twitty
'Rita Cosby
April 6, 2006


TWITTY:  ... So you know, theyre all very connected on that island. Its hard to find someone whos not a relative or a cousin.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12205086/
Yeah,the new AG is probably her brother or uncle.
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« Reply #57 on: June 14, 2008, 04:56:30 PM »

I also wonder why the 2 front desk ladies...who started feaking out in Pap...passed me off to Brenda??? I didn't ask to be connected with anyone else...

Destiny


Perhaps they were soiling their underware because the Americans had found out about the rape so quickly.
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« Reply #58 on: June 14, 2008, 04:59:16 PM »

Was it the "last night" on the island for the victim -- or did the locals screw up the M.O.??????
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« Reply #59 on: June 14, 2008, 05:00:01 PM »

Is this assault story a big news item in Aruba?  Were stories like this previously published in the media?



Not big news yet.  It was reported in awe24 which seems to be the fastest right now at reporting police action in Aruba.  It's even faster than 24ora. 
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