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« Reply #700 on: June 17, 2008, 07:26:48 PM »

What happened to Rene'e Gielens big documentary on Natalee Holloway that came out two weeks ago?  Did everyone just laugh in her face when she tried to find takers? Or did they just shake there head at her? 
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« Reply #701 on: June 17, 2008, 07:33:21 PM »

Are there any good pictures of tattoos from Lorenzo VR's group?  The one's that were arrested awhile ago?

Scorpion on his neck



Tattoo on his arm




Wow, thanks Pita!  So is there a drug significance to the scorpion?  Anyone know?
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« Reply #702 on: June 17, 2008, 07:50:02 PM »

I DO wonder what Robin thinks of chunky rat now.

charlierat wrote:

Um, the FBI was invited to participate in the investigation. That happened less than a week after Natalee was reported missing.

Rep. Bachus told us in December of 2005 that he was in regular contact with the FBI regarding the progress of the investigation and that he had given the FBI a standing order to inform him if, at any time, they felt that they were being shut out of the investigation and they never (not even once) reported any problems in that regard. If they had been denied access to any portion of the investigation, Bachus' office would have intervened via diplomatic channels. The need never arose.

Even if the FBI was only relegated to observor status, they were still in an ideal position to observe (1) corruption or (2) incompetence if there had been any and there were no such reports. For the record, Rep. Bachus opined that the reason that the FBI had not assumed a larger role in the investigation was because the FBI itself had chosen not to. At the time it sounded to me like Bachus and the FBI had a lot of confidence in ALE.

So, in December 2005, when Rep. Bachus told the world that the investigation on Aruba was "thorough and professional" and that the amount of resources that they had devoted to the case was "astounding," I believe he knew what he was talking about.


I imagine that Joran van der Sloot's defence was behind the reason that Karin Janssen did not comply with Prime Minister Nelson Oduber's request to turn over the Natalee Holloway case file to the FBI.  David Kock's motion to prevent documents/audio/evidence ...

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Aruba PM: Give FBI documents on missing teen U.S. agency has been assisting in investigation but without access to papers
Associated Press July 22, Updated: 8:58 p.m. ET July 22, 2005


ORANJESTAD, Aruba - Aruba’s prime minister has urged investigators to give the FBI all documents related to the disappearance of Alabama teenager Natalee Holloway, according to a letter released late Friday.

Prime Minister Nelson Oduber asked in the letter to Attorney General Karin Janssen that the bureau be allowed “complete access to the dossier, including transcripts, audio tapes or video registration of interrogations, plus all materials that are connected to this case, in as much as our judicial system allows.”

FBI agents have been advising Aruban authorities in the 6-week-old investigation but have not had access to case records, said government spokesman Ruben Trapenberg.

FBI spokeswoman Judy Orihuela said the FBI has pressed for access to the documents.

Trapenberg said Janssen had not yet responded to the government’s request. The attorney general could not immediately be reached for comment Friday.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8672318/


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Page 184


Then FBI agent Bill comes by and delivers the final blow. "The FBI has never received one single document from the Arubans. Not one tape. Nothing." he says sadly. Depite our personal pleas to authorities here and our broadcast appeals to Aruba to let the FBI lend a hand, and regardless of Aruba's public response that it would welcome FBI assistance, the island never let FBI agents in on the investigation. Never passed them the ball. Not even for one minute.


Beth Twitty
NANCY GRACE
September 28, 2005


TWITTY: You know, Nancy, I really don`t know, you know, as this case has gone and how frustrating it`s been and how little information we`re allowed to get, and even now, with the FBI not even able to receive a single piece of evidence. So we`ll just have to try.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0509/28/ng.01.html

 
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HARRIS FAULKNER, "A CURRENT AFFAIR": Well, you know, Nancy, the biggest news so far has been our exclusive interview with Joran Van Der Sloot, and that is something that Natalee`s mom had said all along that she wanted to see words from Joran. So as soon as we got that tape, we showed it to Beth. And you know, I have to say, in the watching it -- and I know you guys here have watched it on your show -- there are so many nuances in that tape and so many things that pop up that Beth then reacted to that gave us new information.

For instance, I never knew until talking with Beth this week that the FBI was never given a single document, audio or visual, in this case. And now we`ve confirmed that, and I know you have done so, too. All along, we had thought this summer, you know, maybe they were being held at bay because of Dutch or Aruban law. And then we saw the Aruban prime minister about a month ago come out and say, FBI, come on in, inviting them in, I thought in a more substantive manner. Maybe we all thought that, too. But when Beth told me, sure, there was a Dutch official who flew from Holland all the way to Quantico to share information, but didn`t leave a single thing in the hands of the FBI.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0509/28/ng.01.html


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ORANJESTAD, Aruba (10 Aug 2005) -- Defense lawyers on Wednesday appealed a judge's ruling that Aruban authorities could share information with the FBI about missing teen Natalee Holloway.

Last week, a judge struck down a motion by the defense to prohibit file sharing with the American law enforcement agency, which is acting in an advisory role in the high-profile case.

"It's not a question of having something to hide but about the legality of their (FBI) involvement," said defense lawyer David Kock.

Kock, one of three lawyers who argued the appeal Wednesday in a closed court session, said a decision was expected Monday.

FBI agents have been on the Dutch Caribbean island as observers since Holloway disappeared May 30. They were granted access to material last month at the urging of the Aruban prime minister.

Lawyers for Joran van der Sloot, a Dutch teenager who has been detained in the disappearance, and two Surinamese brothers have argued the FBI didn't have jurisdiction and shouldn't have access to the investigation.

http://www.cdnn.info/news/travel/t050810a.html
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« Reply #703 on: June 17, 2008, 08:13:53 PM »

I DO wonder what Robin thinks of chunky rat now.

charlierat wrote:

Um, the FBI was invited to participate in the investigation. That happened less than a week after Natalee was reported missing.

Rep. Bachus told us in December of 2005 that he was in regular contact with the FBI regarding the progress of the investigation and that he had given the FBI a standing order to inform him if, at any time, they felt that they were being shut out of the investigation and they never (not even once) reported any problems in that regard. If they had been denied access to any portion of the investigation, Bachus' office would have intervened via diplomatic channels. The need never arose.

Even if the FBI was only relegated to observor status, they were still in an ideal position to observe (1) corruption or (2) incompetence if there had been any and there were no such reports. For the record, Rep. Bachus opined that the reason that the FBI had not assumed a larger role in the investigation was because the FBI itself had chosen not to. At the time it sounded to me like Bachus and the FBI had a lot of confidence in ALE.

So, in December 2005, when Rep. Bachus told the world that the investigation on Aruba was "thorough and professional" and that the amount of resources that they had devoted to the case was "astounding," I believe he knew what he was talking about.


I imagine that Joran van der Sloot's defence was behind the reason that Karin Janssen did not comply with Prime Minister Nelson Oduber's request to turn over the Natalee Holloway case file to the FBI.  David Kock's motion to prevent documents/audio/evidence ...

Janet

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Aruba PM: Give FBI documents on missing teen U.S. agency has been assisting in investigation but without access to papers
Associated Press July 22, Updated: 8:58 p.m. ET July 22, 2005


ORANJESTAD, Aruba - Aruba’s prime minister has urged investigators to give the FBI all documents related to the disappearance of Alabama teenager Natalee Holloway, according to a letter released late Friday.

Prime Minister Nelson Oduber asked in the letter to Attorney General Karin Janssen that the bureau be allowed “complete access to the dossier, including transcripts, audio tapes or video registration of interrogations, plus all materials that are connected to this case, in as much as our judicial system allows.”

FBI agents have been advising Aruban authorities in the 6-week-old investigation but have not had access to case records, said government spokesman Ruben Trapenberg.

FBI spokeswoman Judy Orihuela said the FBI has pressed for access to the documents.

Trapenberg said Janssen had not yet responded to the government’s request. The attorney general could not immediately be reached for comment Friday.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8672318/


Beth Holloway
LOVING NATALEE
Page 184


Then FBI agent Bill comes by and delivers the final blow. "The FBI has never received one single document from the Arubans. Not one tape. Nothing." he says sadly. Depite our personal pleas to authorities here and our broadcast appeals to Aruba to let the FBI lend a hand, and regardless of Aruba's public response that it would welcome FBI assistance, the island never let FBI agents in on the investigation. Never passed them the ball. Not even for one minute.


Beth Twitty
NANCY GRACE
September 28, 2005


TWITTY: You know, Nancy, I really don`t know, you know, as this case has gone and how frustrating it`s been and how little information we`re allowed to get, and even now, with the FBI not even able to receive a single piece of evidence. So we`ll just have to try.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0509/28/ng.01.html

 
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September 28, 2005


HARRIS FAULKNER, "A CURRENT AFFAIR": Well, you know, Nancy, the biggest news so far has been our exclusive interview with Joran Van Der Sloot, and that is something that Natalee`s mom had said all along that she wanted to see words from Joran. So as soon as we got that tape, we showed it to Beth. And you know, I have to say, in the watching it -- and I know you guys here have watched it on your show -- there are so many nuances in that tape and so many things that pop up that Beth then reacted to that gave us new information.

For instance, I never knew until talking with Beth this week that the FBI was never given a single document, audio or visual, in this case. And now we`ve confirmed that, and I know you have done so, too. All along, we had thought this summer, you know, maybe they were being held at bay because of Dutch or Aruban law. And then we saw the Aruban prime minister about a month ago come out and say, FBI, come on in, inviting them in, I thought in a more substantive manner. Maybe we all thought that, too. But when Beth told me, sure, there was a Dutch official who flew from Holland all the way to Quantico to share information, but didn`t leave a single thing in the hands of the FBI.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0509/28/ng.01.html


Defense attorneys want FBI out of Aruba
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ORANJESTAD, Aruba (10 Aug 2005) -- Defense lawyers on Wednesday appealed a judge's ruling that Aruban authorities could share information with the FBI about missing teen Natalee Holloway.

Last week, a judge struck down a motion by the defense to prohibit file sharing with the American law enforcement agency, which is acting in an advisory role in the high-profile case.

"It's not a question of having something to hide but about the legality of their (FBI) involvement," said defense lawyer David Kock.

Kock, one of three lawyers who argued the appeal Wednesday in a closed court session, said a decision was expected Monday.

FBI agents have been on the Dutch Caribbean island as observers since Holloway disappeared May 30. They were granted access to material last month at the urging of the Aruban prime minister.

Lawyers for Joran van der Sloot, a Dutch teenager who has been detained in the disappearance, and two Surinamese brothers have argued the FBI didn't have jurisdiction and shouldn't have access to the investigation.

http://www.cdnn.info/news/travel/t050810a.html
Thank you Janet
When it's all said and done the FBI never did get access to any of those files and that's a shame.
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« Reply #704 on: June 17, 2008, 08:58:13 PM »

Is that Dennis Jacobs?


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« Reply #705 on: June 17, 2008, 08:58:34 PM »

I DO wonder what Robin thinks of chunky rat now.

charlierat wrote:

Um, the FBI was invited to participate in the investigation. That happened less than a week after Natalee was reported missing.

Rep. Bachus told us in December of 2005 that he was in regular contact with the FBI regarding the progress of the investigation and that he had given the FBI a standing order to inform him if, at any time, they felt that they were being shut out of the investigation and they never (not even once) reported any problems in that regard. If they had been denied access to any portion of the investigation, Bachus' office would have intervened via diplomatic channels. The need never arose.

Even if the FBI was only relegated to observor status, they were still in an ideal position to observe (1) corruption or (2) incompetence if there had been any and there were no such reports. For the record, Rep. Bachus opined that the reason that the FBI had not assumed a larger role in the investigation was because the FBI itself had chosen not to. At the time it sounded to me like Bachus and the FBI had a lot of confidence in ALE.

So, in December 2005, when Rep. Bachus told the world that the investigation on Aruba was "thorough and professional" and that the amount of resources that they had devoted to the case was "astounding," I believe he knew what he was talking about.


I imagine that Joran van der Sloot's defence was behind the reason that Karin Janssen did not comply with Prime Minister Nelson Oduber's request to turn over the Natalee Holloway case file to the FBI.  David Kock's motion to prevent documents/audio/evidence ...

Janet

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Aruba PM: Give FBI documents on missing teen U.S. agency has been assisting in investigation but without access to papers
Associated Press July 22, Updated: 8:58 p.m. ET July 22, 2005


ORANJESTAD, Aruba - Aruba’s prime minister has urged investigators to give the FBI all documents related to the disappearance of Alabama teenager Natalee Holloway, according to a letter released late Friday.

Prime Minister Nelson Oduber asked in the letter to Attorney General Karin Janssen that the bureau be allowed “complete access to the dossier, including transcripts, audio tapes or video registration of interrogations, plus all materials that are connected to this case, in as much as our judicial system allows.”

FBI agents have been advising Aruban authorities in the 6-week-old investigation but have not had access to case records, said government spokesman Ruben Trapenberg.

FBI spokeswoman Judy Orihuela said the FBI has pressed for access to the documents.

Trapenberg said Janssen had not yet responded to the government’s request. The attorney general could not immediately be reached for comment Friday.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8672318/


Beth Holloway
LOVING NATALEE
Page 184


Then FBI agent Bill comes by and delivers the final blow. "The FBI has never received one single document from the Arubans. Not one tape. Nothing." he says sadly. Depite our personal pleas to authorities here and our broadcast appeals to Aruba to let the FBI lend a hand, and regardless of Aruba's public response that it would welcome FBI assistance, the island never let FBI agents in on the investigation. Never passed them the ball. Not even for one minute.


Beth Twitty
NANCY GRACE
September 28, 2005


TWITTY: You know, Nancy, I really don`t know, you know, as this case has gone and how frustrating it`s been and how little information we`re allowed to get, and even now, with the FBI not even able to receive a single piece of evidence. So we`ll just have to try.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0509/28/ng.01.html

 
Harris Faulkner
NANCY GRACE
September 28, 2005


HARRIS FAULKNER, "A CURRENT AFFAIR": Well, you know, Nancy, the biggest news so far has been our exclusive interview with Joran Van Der Sloot, and that is something that Natalee`s mom had said all along that she wanted to see words from Joran. So as soon as we got that tape, we showed it to Beth. And you know, I have to say, in the watching it -- and I know you guys here have watched it on your show -- there are so many nuances in that tape and so many things that pop up that Beth then reacted to that gave us new information.

For instance, I never knew until talking with Beth this week that the FBI was never given a single document, audio or visual, in this case. And now we`ve confirmed that, and I know you have done so, too. All along, we had thought this summer, you know, maybe they were being held at bay because of Dutch or Aruban law. And then we saw the Aruban prime minister about a month ago come out and say, FBI, come on in, inviting them in, I thought in a more substantive manner. Maybe we all thought that, too. But when Beth told me, sure, there was a Dutch official who flew from Holland all the way to Quantico to share information, but didn`t leave a single thing in the hands of the FBI.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0509/28/ng.01.html


Defense attorneys want FBI out of Aruba
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ORANJESTAD, Aruba (10 Aug 2005) -- Defense lawyers on Wednesday appealed a judge's ruling that Aruban authorities could share information with the FBI about missing teen Natalee Holloway.

Last week, a judge struck down a motion by the defense to prohibit file sharing with the American law enforcement agency, which is acting in an advisory role in the high-profile case.

"It's not a question of having something to hide but about the legality of their (FBI) involvement," said defense lawyer David Kock.

Kock, one of three lawyers who argued the appeal Wednesday in a closed court session, said a decision was expected Monday.

FBI agents have been on the Dutch Caribbean island as observers since Holloway disappeared May 30. They were granted access to material last month at the urging of the Aruban prime minister.

Lawyers for Joran van der Sloot, a Dutch teenager who has been detained in the disappearance, and two Surinamese brothers have argued the FBI didn't have jurisdiction and shouldn't have access to the investigation.

http://www.cdnn.info/news/travel/t050810a.html

it's amazing how much chunky and friends conveniently forget when they're trying to make official aruba into something it definitely isn't.
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« Reply #706 on: June 17, 2008, 09:00:26 PM »

Is the place the bodies were found near each other?  Were either found near the painted rocks area?  IIRC wasn't the painting of the rocks with 2 weeks of Natalee disappearing?

Hi Kippy and Cage Mates...just taking a coffee break...and logging in for a few...I think the 3 columbians that were mentioned in the big bust on the speed boat...the bust where the police said the 3 men on the boat jumped overboard..and swam to shore...it's just a bunch of horse puckey...that story don't fly with me...why didn't the police just pick them up out of the water...huh?...surely the police in their boat could move faster than 3 dudes swimming!

What I think happened, is the police...did get the 3 guys...removed all their clothing..weighted them down with something...and tossed them over the side...now the 3 guys are starting to bloat...break away from their weights...and head to shore....2 down...one to go..or come...whatever....

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« Reply #707 on: June 17, 2008, 09:04:53 PM »

Are there any good pictures of tattoos from Lorenzo VR's group?  The one's that were arrested awhile ago?

Scorpion on his neck



Tattoo on his arm




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Thanks *******, just posted a piece of that flight cutbacks article.

But can you imagine what a terrorist attack on a cruise ship would do? Holy cow!


What happened during the hijacking of the Italian cruise ship Achille Lauro in 1985?

On October 7, 1985 four heavily armed terrorists representing the Palestine Liberation Front (PLF) hijacked the Italian cruise ship Achille Lauro, with some 100 mostly elderly passengers on board, in Egyptian waters. The hijackers demanded that Israel free 50 Palestinian prisoners, and to prove their determination, they shot and killed a disabled American tourist, 69-year-old Leon Klinghoffer, and threw his body overboard with his wheelchair. After a two-day drama, the Egyptian government, unaware that Klinghoffer had been murdered, provided the hijackers with safe passage in exchange for freeing the ship and its passengers.

Once the murder had been discovered, US Navy F-14 fighters intercepted an Egypt Air 737 airliner flying the hijackers to freedom in Tunisia and forced it to land in Sicily. The terrorists were taken into custody by Italian authorities, were tried and convicted to long prison terms.

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« Reply #709 on: June 17, 2008, 09:09:25 PM »

Are there any good pictures of tattoos from Lorenzo VR's group?  The one's that were arrested awhile ago?

Scorpion on his neck



Tattoo on his arm




Wow, thanks Pita!  So is there a drug significance to the scorpion?  Anyone know?

Found this on a google search...didn't download it though....

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Gazette - gangs2.qxp
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States to Canada as part of an international drug smuggling ring. CFSEU-BC and BCIGTF investigators ... Scorpion tattoos like this one help identify ...
www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/gazette/vol70no2/gazette_vol70no2_e.pdf - Similar pages
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« Reply #710 on: June 17, 2008, 09:14:36 PM »

Destiny - thanks, looks like the name of a Canadian gang "Scorpion Brothers":

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« Reply #711 on: June 17, 2008, 09:18:54 PM »

Looks like I'm having photobucket problems again.
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« Reply #712 on: June 17, 2008, 09:23:20 PM »

This one is interesting...

Colombia Marvels at Drug Kingpin: A Chain-Saw Killer, Too? - New ...
Today, Mr. Loaiza's scorpion brand can be found on his 5000 head of cattle, on his Colombian walking horses, and on the bottom of his swimming pool at one ...
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« Reply #713 on: June 17, 2008, 09:26:29 PM »

 po lil scorpion is just a symbol of darkness and a popular tattoo dat represents danger and power    makes some feel important   
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« Reply #714 on: June 17, 2008, 09:28:05 PM »

might also be the dude's zodiac sign
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« Reply #715 on: June 17, 2008, 09:28:54 PM »

This one is interesting...

Colombia Marvels at Drug Kingpin: A Chain-Saw Killer, Too? - New ...
Today, Mr. Loaiza's scorpion brand can be found on his 5000 head of cattle, on his Colombian walking horses, and on the bottom of his swimming pool at one ...
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Yes, from 1995:

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=990CE0D8173FF933A15755C0A963958260

World News Briefs; A Drug Cartel Leader Surrenders in Colombia

 Published: June 20, 1995

A leader of the Cali drug cartel, accused of involvement in several massacres, surrendered to the authorities here on Monday.

The trafficker, Henry Loaiza, known as the Scorpion, is considered to be a hard-line cartel member who had wanted to respond to police pressure on the cartel with violent revenge attacks.
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« Reply #716 on: June 17, 2008, 09:31:42 PM »

Destiny - thanks, looks like the name of a Canadian gang "Scorpion Brothers":

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« Reply #717 on: June 17, 2008, 09:32:24 PM »

What happened to Rene'e Gielens big documentary on Natalee Holloway that came out two weeks ago?  Did everyone just laugh in her face when she tried to find takers? Or did they just shake there head at her? 


It premiered at the Cans festival over a case of beer and six interested friends, two named Paulus and Anita, on a VCR in her den.

Seriously, good question *******. Does Aruba have a television station? I doubt anyone in Holland or U.S. is interested. All the networks here believe Joran is guilty as sin and wouldn't touch it. I would think Holland would be the same and any network of any salt in either country would get Mos' take on it before airing it. He would, of course, tell them she's a kook.
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« Reply #718 on: June 17, 2008, 09:37:25 PM »

Not in my backyard
Rural responses to gang activity
By Caroline Ross


http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/gazette/vol70no2/gang_rural_e.htm

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« Reply #719 on: June 17, 2008, 09:37:44 PM »

Is the place the bodies were found near each other?  Were either found near the painted rocks area?  IIRC wasn't the painting of the rocks with 2 weeks of Natalee disappearing?

Hi Kippy and Cage Mates...just taking a coffee break...and logging in for a few...I think the 3 columbians that were mentioned in the big bust on the speed boat...the bust where the police said the 3 men on the boat jumped overboard..and swam to shore...it's just a bunch of horse puckey...that story don't fly with me...why didn't the police just pick them up out of the water...huh?...surely the police in their boat could move faster than 3 dudes swimming!

What I think happened, is the police...did get the 3 guys...removed all their clothing..weighted them down with something...and tossed them over the side...now the 3 guys are starting to bloat...break away from their weights...and head to shore....2 down...one to go..or come...whatever....

Destiny


It does have all the hallmarks of a drug hit.
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