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Topic: Natalee Case Discussion #758 6/14 - 6/18/08 (Read 260905 times)
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #758 6/14 -
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June 14, 2008, 04:37:00 PM »
When my daughter went to a friend's Mexican condo, their group met some locals. They invited the locals to go with them to one of the resort's bars. The locals said,
"we aren't allowed in there"
. Luckily, my daughter's group did not accompany the locals to their spot. But if I was Aruba, I would crack down on the locals. Everybody knows the game. Time for game "over".
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #758 6/14 -
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BBL Monkeys...errands to run...
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #758 6/14 -
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June 14, 2008, 04:41:43 PM »
I thought this was interesting,brought over from the last thread....post made by Janet.
Same name as the new AG in aruba?
Noraina
Pietersz
- Defence Attorney
Associated Press
June 9, 2005
Under Aruban law, only serious suspicion from investigators — not solid evidence — is needed for a judge to rule that suspects can be held, Pietersz said.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8079019/
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #758 6/14 -
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June 14, 2008, 04:42:57 PM »
Quote from: Destiny on June 14, 2008, 04:17:22 PM
Thanks to SS...called the HI 011l297 586 3600
Told them that I and 5 other girlfriends were planning a vacation to Aruba, and planning on staying at the HI...but, That I got an emial from one of our group...about the article regarding the assault of one of their customers...person I was talking with in english...then started talking very rapidly to someone else, another woman, I could hear them in Pap...
then I was passed to another line, that was picked up by a woman named Brenda...
she claimed to be the manager of HI...she said she know nothing about any assault...I told her a friend of mine had emailed me an article about the assault...Brenda then said she is going to check it out right now...that maybe an assault did take place, but it was not reported to her, because the assault happened on the beach...Brenda asked me what beach was in the article...I told her Eagle Beach...Brenda assured me and my group. that Eagle Beach was not even close to the HI...and that if there was a HI guest that got very drunk and was assaulted...they might not want to report it to the HI. Brenda then assured me that Aruba is VERY SAFE...and that when my group gets there, to please come visit her at the HI for some complimentary goodies...nice huh...
Destiny
"Brenda" has probably been told to watch her tongue by the "Powers that be" in Aruba after being instrumental in revealing to Beth and Jug shortly after they arrived on the Island that Joran van der Sloot was not a "tourist from Holland" and ... underage Joran gambled at the Excelsior and ... Joran "preyed" on female tourists.
Janet
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Beth Holloway
LOVING NATALEE
Page 39
Following our brief conversation, we all walk immediately to the fron desk to ask about someone named Joran who is staying in the hotel and plays in the casino here. The Holiday Inn night manager, Brenda, knows him by name. "
Oh! yes ... yes ... Joran. He gambles in the Excelsior Casino here. He likes to prey on young female tourists. Especially the blonds. He is tall. Good-looking boy. Like a Dutch marine." My mouth drops wide open. "Where is he from?" I ask her. She replies. "He lives in Aruba."
I stutter. "He's ... he's not a tourist just here for the summer?" "Non, non," she says.
It takes a few moments to absorb this information. The supposed tourist who befriended some of Natalee's classmates and who told them he was staying at their hotel lied tothem. He isn't a tourist. He isn't staying here.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #758 6/14 -
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June 14, 2008, 04:44:47 PM »
If anyone has access to CAPS, would you please contact him and alert him that an American rape victim needs help from whomever is there from the States? Thanks.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #758 6/14 -
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Quote from: KarmaRoundUp on June 14, 2008, 04:41:43 PM
I thought this was interesting,brought over from the last thread....post made by Janet.
Same name as the new AG in aruba?
Noraina
Pietersz
- Defence Attorney
Associated Press
June 9, 2005
Under Aruban law, only serious suspicion from investigators — not solid evidence — is needed for a judge to rule that suspects can be held, Pietersz said.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8079019/
Thanks Karma - they will be telling us it's another one of those common names in Aruba like Croes, Tromp, etc.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #758 6/14 -
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Frankly, I am surprised Brenda still has a tongue after all this time...but I digress...sorry.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #758 6/14 -
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Quote from: SS on June 14, 2008, 04:44:47 PM
If anyone has access to CAPS, would you please contact him and alert him that an American rape victim needs help from whomever is there from the States? Thanks.
Done.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #758 6/14 -
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Quote from: Tamikosmom on June 14, 2008, 04:42:57 PM
Quote from: Destiny on June 14, 2008, 04:17:22 PM
Thanks to SS...called the HI 011l297 586 3600
Told them that I and 5 other girlfriends were planning a vacation to Aruba, and planning on staying at the HI...but, That I got an emial from one of our group...about the article regarding the assault of one of their customers...person I was talking with in english...then started talking very rapidly to someone else, another woman, I could hear them in Pap...
then I was passed to another line, that was picked up by a woman named Brenda...
she claimed to be the manager of HI...she said she know nothing about any assault...I told her a friend of mine had emailed me an article about the assault...Brenda then said she is going to check it out right now...that maybe an assault did take place, but it was not reported to her, because the assault happened on the beach...Brenda asked me what beach was in the article...I told her Eagle Beach...Brenda assured me and my group. that Eagle Beach was not even close to the HI...and that if there was a HI guest that got very drunk and was assaulted...they might not want to report it to the HI. Brenda then assured me that Aruba is VERY SAFE...and that when my group gets there, to please come visit her at the HI for some complimentary goodies...nice huh...
Destiny
"Brenda" has probably been told to watch her tongue by the "Powers that be" in Aruba after being instrumental in revealing to Beth and Jug shortly after they arrived on the Island that Joran van der Sloot was not a "tourist from Holland" and ... underage Joran gambled at the Excelsior and ... Joran "preyed" on female tourists.
Janet
+++++++++++
Beth Holloway
LOVING NATALEE
Page 39
Following our brief conversation, we all walk immediately to the fron desk to ask about someone named Joran who is staying in the hotel and plays in the casino here. The Holiday Inn night manager, Brenda, knows him by name. "
Oh! yes ... yes ... Joran. He gambles in the Excelsior Casino here. He likes to prey on young female tourists. Especially the blonds. He is tall. Good-looking boy. Like a Dutch marine." My mouth drops wide open. "Where is he from?" I ask her. She replies. "He lives in Aruba."
I stutter. "He's ... he's not a tourist just here for the summer?" "Non, non," she says.
It takes a few moments to absorb this information. The supposed tourist who befriended some of Natalee's classmates and who told them he was staying at their hotel lied tothem. He isn't a tourist. He isn't staying here.
WOW Janet...so the woman who called herself Brenda *is* a manager at the HI...THANKS!!!
Destiny
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #758 6/14 -
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June 14, 2008, 04:49:54 PM »
Quote from: KarmaRoundUp on June 14, 2008, 04:41:43 PM
I thought this was interesting,brought over from the last thread....post made by Janet.
Same name as the new AG in aruba?
Noraina
Pietersz
- Defence Attorney
Associated Press
June 9, 2005
Under Aruban law, only serious suspicion from investigators — not solid evidence — is needed for a judge to rule that suspects can be held, Pietersz said.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8079019/
Great catch!!!
IIRC ... Noraina Pietersz was the Security Guard's attorney.
As Beth says everybody is related on the Island of Aruba.
Janet
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Beth Twitty
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April 6, 2006
TWITTY: ... So you know, they‘re all very connected on that island. It‘s hard to find someone who‘s not a relative or a cousin.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12205086/
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Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
_____
“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #758 6/14 -
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June 14, 2008, 04:50:21 PM »
I also wonder why the 2 front desk ladies...who started feaking out in Pap...passed me off to Brenda??? I didn't ask to be connected with anyone else...
Destiny
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #758 6/14 -
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June 14, 2008, 04:52:40 PM »
Quote from: klaasend on June 14, 2008, 04:45:53 PM
Quote from: KarmaRoundUp on June 14, 2008, 04:41:43 PM
I thought this was interesting,brought over from the last thread....post made by Janet.
Same name as the new AG in aruba?
Noraina
Pietersz
- Defence Attorney
Associated Press
June 9, 2005
Under Aruban law, only serious suspicion from investigators — not solid evidence — is needed for a judge to rule that suspects can be held, Pietersz said.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8079019/
Thanks Karma - they will be telling us it's another one of those common names in Aruba like Croes, Tromp, etc.
You're welcome Klaas
Ppppsshhht!
They should just name them all like 6 different names total,so confusing.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #758 6/14 -
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June 14, 2008, 04:54:11 PM »
Quote from: Destiny on June 14, 2008, 04:47:43 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on June 14, 2008, 04:42:57 PM
Quote from: Destiny on June 14, 2008, 04:17:22 PM
Thanks to SS...called the HI 011l297 586 3600
Told them that I and 5 other girlfriends were planning a vacation to Aruba, and planning on staying at the HI...but, That I got an emial from one of our group...about the article regarding the assault of one of their customers...person I was talking with in english...then started talking very rapidly to someone else, another woman, I could hear them in Pap...
then I was passed to another line, that was picked up by a woman named Brenda...
she claimed to be the manager of HI...she said she know nothing about any assault...I told her a friend of mine had emailed me an article about the assault...Brenda then said she is going to check it out right now...that maybe an assault did take place, but it was not reported to her, because the assault happened on the beach...Brenda asked me what beach was in the article...I told her Eagle Beach...Brenda assured me and my group. that Eagle Beach was not even close to the HI...and that if there was a HI guest that got very drunk and was assaulted...they might not want to report it to the HI. Brenda then assured me that Aruba is VERY SAFE...and that when my group gets there, to please come visit her at the HI for some complimentary goodies...nice huh...
Destiny
"Brenda" has probably been told to watch her tongue by the "Powers that be" in Aruba after being instrumental in revealing to Beth and Jug shortly after they arrived on the Island that Joran van der Sloot was not a "tourist from Holland" and ... underage Joran gambled at the Excelsior and ... Joran "preyed" on female tourists.
Janet
+++++++++++
Beth Holloway
LOVING NATALEE
Page 39
Following our brief conversation, we all walk immediately to the fron desk to ask about someone named Joran who is staying in the hotel and plays in the casino here. The Holiday Inn night manager, Brenda, knows him by name. "
Oh! yes ... yes ... Joran. He gambles in the Excelsior Casino here. He likes to prey on young female tourists. Especially the blonds. He is tall. Good-looking boy. Like a Dutch marine." My mouth drops wide open. "Where is he from?" I ask her. She replies. "He lives in Aruba."
I stutter. "He's ... he's not a tourist just here for the summer?" "Non, non," she says.
It takes a few moments to absorb this information. The supposed tourist who befriended some of Natalee's classmates and who told them he was staying at their hotel lied tothem. He isn't a tourist. He isn't staying here.
WOW Janet...so the woman who called herself Brenda *is* a manager at the HI...THANKS!!!
Destiny
HAHA!Guess Brenda is going back on nights.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #758 6/14 -
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Quote from: Destiny on June 14, 2008, 04:50:21 PM
I also wonder why the 2 front desk ladies...who started feaking out in Pap...passed me off to Brenda??? I didn't ask to be connected with anyone else...
Destiny
Because Brenda understands and speaks English better?
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Is this assault story a big news item in Aruba? Were stories like this previously published in the media?
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June 14, 2008, 04:55:24 PM »
Quote from: Destiny on June 14, 2008, 04:47:43 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on June 14, 2008, 04:42:57 PM
Quote from: Destiny on June 14, 2008, 04:17:22 PM
Thanks to SS...called the HI 011l297 586 3600
Told them that I and 5 other girlfriends were planning a vacation to Aruba, and planning on staying at the HI...but, That I got an emial from one of our group...about the article regarding the assault of one of their customers...person I was talking with in english...then started talking very rapidly to someone else, another woman, I could hear them in Pap...
then I was passed to another line, that was picked up by a woman named Brenda...
she claimed to be the manager of HI...she said she know nothing about any assault...I told her a friend of mine had emailed me an article about the assault...Brenda then said she is going to check it out right now...that maybe an assault did take place, but it was not reported to her, because the assault happened on the beach...Brenda asked me what beach was in the article...I told her Eagle Beach...Brenda assured me and my group. that Eagle Beach was not even close to the HI...and that if there was a HI guest that got very drunk and was assaulted...they might not want to report it to the HI. Brenda then assured me that Aruba is VERY SAFE...and that when my group gets there, to please come visit her at the HI for some complimentary goodies...nice huh...
Destiny
"Brenda" has probably been told to watch her tongue by the "Powers that be" in Aruba after being instrumental in revealing to Beth and Jug shortly after they arrived on the Island that Joran van der Sloot was not a "tourist from Holland" and ... underage Joran gambled at the Excelsior and ... Joran "preyed" on female tourists.
Janet
+++++++++++
Beth Holloway
LOVING NATALEE
Page 39
Following our brief conversation, we all walk immediately to the fron desk to ask about someone named Joran who is staying in the hotel and plays in the casino here. The Holiday Inn night manager, Brenda, knows him by name. "
Oh! yes ... yes ... Joran. He gambles in the Excelsior Casino here. He likes to prey on young female tourists. Especially the blonds. He is tall. Good-looking boy. Like a Dutch marine." My mouth drops wide open. "Where is he from?" I ask her. She replies. "He lives in Aruba."
I stutter. "He's ... he's not a tourist just here for the summer?" "Non, non," she says.
It takes a few moments to absorb this information. The supposed tourist who befriended some of Natalee's classmates and who told them he was staying at their hotel lied tothem. He isn't a tourist. He isn't staying here.
WOW Janet...so the woman who called herself Brenda *is* a manager at the HI...THANKS!!!
Destiny
IF the two "Brendas" are the same person. How many "Brendas" do you know? I only know one? I would say that chances are good it is the same Brenda.
Janet
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Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
_____
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #758 6/14 -
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Reply #56 on:
June 14, 2008, 04:55:51 PM »
Quote from: Tamikosmom on June 14, 2008, 04:49:54 PM
Quote from: KarmaRoundUp on June 14, 2008, 04:41:43 PM
I thought this was interesting,brought over from the last thread....post made by Janet.
Same name as the new AG in aruba?
Noraina
Pietersz
- Defence Attorney
Associated Press
June 9, 2005
Under Aruban law, only serious suspicion from investigators — not solid evidence — is needed for a judge to rule that suspects can be held, Pietersz said.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8079019/
Great catch!!!
IIRC ... Noraina Pietersz was the Security Guard's attorney.
As Beth says everybody is related on the Island of Aruba.
Janet
++++++++
Beth Twitty
'Rita Cosby
April 6, 2006
TWITTY: ... So you know, they‘re all very connected on that island. It‘s hard to find someone who‘s not a relative or a cousin.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12205086/
Yeah,the new AG is probably her brother or uncle.
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Quote from: Destiny on June 14, 2008, 04:50:21 PM
I also wonder why the 2 front desk ladies...who started feaking out in Pap...passed me off to Brenda??? I didn't ask to be connected with anyone else...
Destiny
Perhaps they were soiling their underware because the Americans had found out about the rape so quickly.
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Was it the "last night" on the island for the victim -- or did the locals screw up the M.O.??????
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Quote from: WhiskeyGirl on June 14, 2008, 04:55:11 PM
Is this assault story a big news item in Aruba? Were stories like this previously published in the media?
Not big news yet. It was reported in awe24 which seems to be the fastest right now at reporting police action in Aruba. It's even faster than 24ora.
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===> Crimes Against Children, Elderly and the Disabled
===> Crimes of Passion/Anger
===> Serial Killers and Their Possible Victims
===> Unsolved Crimes
=====> Finally Solved
===> Haleigh Marie Cummings - Florida
===> Adji Desir - Florida
===> Somer Renee Thompson 7 yo, Orange Park FL 10/19/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Tracy Ocasio - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Shaniya Nicole Davis, 5 Fayetteville, NC Missing 11/10/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Holly Bobo, 20yrs old missing Parsons, TN 4/13/11
===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
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=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
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=> Natalee Holloway
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