Natalee Case Discussion #758 6/14 - 6/18/08

[Dayhiker]

Darn right, Helen, they ran out of believability coupons a long time ago.

"They are trying to get her not to bring charges." What kind of shit is that?????? They don't believe that rape is a serious enough crime to prosecute?

Can you believe they would say this Dayhiker?  Intimidating her into not bringing charges by launching the story that she wanted to have sex with three strangers on the beach?
No one wants that.  Someone please bring forward any woman who wants that, because I would like to hear a woman say that. 

That is strictly a male fantasy straight from a porn movie.

Total BS rapist cover story.

 

This is why they need to get this girl off the island for her own protection. The longer she is there the worse they will try to make her out to be and threaten her with this kind of propaganda. You can tell they are trying to intimidate her.

[sandy leiva]

DESTINY - did you get any sense about the 3 guys that raped her, if they were also tourists or if they were locals?

Locals...

This is unbelievable!  Great job Destiny, on getting the story.  If this turns out to be true, and hits the US media.............It's a DISASTER.

Here's what gets me, that's the same spin they tried to put on Natalee. All her fault. Rapists get a free pass in Aruba.

This needs to get out to US media quickly and she needs to be interviewed before they disappear her.

The fact that they are trying to float the exact same story is going to be the nail in the coffin.  NO ONE WILL BUY THIS AND NO ONE WANTS TO HEAR THIS LAME SH*T FROM ARUBA AGAIN.

Remember, someone from the "State/s" is on the island.


sent a copy to gretawire.com

[Dayhiker]

we need to know the names of these animals that seem to think all consensual sex involves multiple males and one drunk female.

We need to know these names as soon as possible. And it won't take us long to connect these new alleged criminals to ones we have already been tracking... we all know that they all know each other...this will be simple because we have a three year head start.

we may not find out the woman's name, but we need the names of these guys and where the live.

I bet we will find some more amazing stuff.

and Klaas, regarding your comment on the other thread - I think this is huge. It's a pattern that makes most of us want to vomit and never ever take anyone we love to that death trap again.

They have a lot of audacity Rob, to try to talk a victim out of pressing charges. What kind of cop does that?

[Tamikosmom]

Janet


This one?  It's still there for me?  Sometimes I have connection problems, where the connection might be weak and all of the icons don't show up.  You could try rebooting and see if that helps. 

Thanks Klaas.

No ... I cannot see that icon but ... youngest son is working on my computer while hubby and I are on a "date" tonight.  He is backing up my files ... upgrading security ... deleting cookies.  I do not have clue what "cookies" is but son claims it is a cause of a lot of my complaints.

Destiny and SS ... thank you for your efforts.

Have a nice evening Monkeys.

Janet
2:30 PM

BOYCOTT ARUBA!!!

[Destiny]

ROB...does it say in the article...which hospital she was taken to?   TIA....and Big Thanks for #s SS..Des

[Destiny]

we need to know the names of these animals that seem to think all consensual sex involves multiple males and one drunk female.

We need to know these names as soon as possible. And it won't take us long to connect these new alleged criminals to ones we have already been tracking... we all know that they all know each other...this will be simple because we have a three year head start.

we may not find out the woman's name, but we need the names of these guys and where the live.

I bet we will find some more amazing stuff.

and Klaas, regarding your comment on the other thread - I think this is huge. It's a pattern that makes most of us want to vomit and never ever take anyone we love to that death trap again.

They have a lot of audacity Rob, to try to talk a victim out of pressing charges. What kind of cop does that?

Aaaahhhh...one in lockstep with AHATA....my guess....need those tourist dollars to meet those paychecks....

[sandy leiva]

Thanks to SS...called the HI 011l297 586 3600

Told them that I and 5 other girlfriends were planning a vacation to Aruba, and planning on staying at the HI...but, That I got an emial from one of our group...about the article regarding the assault of one of their customers...person I was talking with in english...then started talking very rapidly to someone else, another woman, I could hear them in Pap...then I was passed to another line, that was picked up by a woman named Brenda...she claimed to be the manager of HI...she said she know nothing about any assault...I told her a friend of mine had emailed me an article about the assault...Brenda then said she is going to check it out right now...that maybe an assault did take place, but it was not reported to her, because the assault happened on the beach...Brenda asked me what beach was in the article...I told her Eagle Beach...Brenda assured me and my group. that Eagle Beach was not even close to the HI...and that if there was a HI guest that got very drunk and was assaulted...they might not want to report it to the HI.  Brenda then assured me that Aruba is VERY SAFE...and that when my group gets there, to please come visit her at the HI for some complimentary goodies...nice huh...

Any Aruban who tries in any way to cover up the stuff that is going on is as guilty as the perps.  Thanks for calling, Destiny.  I hope that as soon as they hung up from you, they found my email on their computer.  I contacted NBC and Associated Press in NY.  Maybe they will pick up the story.

Klass is this posted on front page?  Can we post it there? just sent info out to kimberly guilfoil, greta and geraldo .Was that ok? Sorry if I shoulndt have but if we want to get this in the media these are some guys that will look into it. They promised annonimity.  sl

[Rob]

The Oduber Hospital is located in this block somewhere. I'm having trouble finding the exact building due to it's odd 1970's looking shape. I'll find it eventually

[klaasend]

Thanks to SS...called the HI 011l297 586 3600

Told them that I and 5 other girlfriends were planning a vacation to Aruba, and planning on staying at the HI...but, That I got an emial from one of our group...about the article regarding the assault of one of their customers...person I was talking with in english...then started talking very rapidly to someone else, another woman, I could hear them in Pap...then I was passed to another line, that was picked up by a woman named Brenda...she claimed to be the manager of HI...she said she know nothing about any assault...I told her a friend of mine had emailed me an article about the assault...Brenda then said she is going to check it out right now...that maybe an assault did take place, but it was not reported to her, because the assault happened on the beach...Brenda asked me what beach was in the article...I told her Eagle Beach...Brenda assured me and my group. that Eagle Beach was not even close to the HI...and that if there was a HI guest that got very drunk and was assaulted...they might not want to report it to the HI.  Brenda then assured me that Aruba is VERY SAFE...and that when my group gets there, to please come visit her at the HI for some complimentary goodies...nice huh...

Any Aruban who tries in any way to cover up the stuff that is going on is as guilty as the perps.  Thanks for calling, Destiny.  I hope that as soon as they hung up from you, they found my email on their computer.  I contacted NBC and Associated Press in NY.  Maybe they will pick up the story.

Klass is this posted on front page?  Can we post it there? just sent info out to kimberly guilfoil, greta and geraldo .Was that ok? Sorry if I shoulndt have but if we want to get this in the media these are some guys that will look into it. They promised annonimity.  sl

Hi Sandy - not posted on the front page of SM yet.  I think Red is waiting to get more info from his contacts in Aruba.  Great idea sending to Greta, Kimberly and Geraldo!

[Destiny]

The Oduber Hospital is located in this block somewhere. I'm having trouble finding the exact building due to it's odd 1970's looking shape. I'll find it eventually

I have the number *thanks SS* to that hosp...will call that one now...

[Helen Back]

Maybe Caesu and Johan will pop in soon.  The media in the NL should be pretty interested in this story.

 

[Nut44x4]

DESTINY - did you get any sense about the 3 guys that raped her, if they were also tourists or if they were locals?

Locals...

I wonder of teeny weenie...came home for Father's Day...do they celebrate that in Aruba?

Nice work Destiny...interesting, but not surprising. Echos of an all too familiar story, indeed. Pathetic.

AND.........LMFAO @ large letters above, lmaooooooo! 

[Destiny]

For medical assistance ALL hotels have a doctor on call 24 hours a day; check with the front desk. Aruba has a first class hospital just a few minutes from the hotel sector and an emergency room staffed 24 hrs. Tel. (297) 587-4300.

Dr. Horacio Oduber Hospital
Sasakiweg, Aruba.
Tel: (297) 587-4300 Fax: (297) 587-3348
Hotels have medical doctors and dentists on call. Appointments can be made through your hotel

First man who answered the phone said that currently there is on one American in the hospital...and it is a man...he then transfered me to emergency room...man there on the phone said he cannot tell me anything...I must call the ALE with any questions...hmmmmmmmmm...so the games begin...

Destiny...

[Nut44x4]

I wish we were all mature enough for our very own 'edit' button 

[Rob]

This is the hospital - and it's hard to find on Google Earth

[Destiny]

I tried Beach Patrol...they won't tell me squat...gave me another number and name to call on Monday Morning....

NEXT:...gimme # of Moombas Club....will call them now...
Destiny

[yapperz1]

Hiya Monkeys

I am sick about the American tourist. SSDD as everyone was fed about Natalee.
I can tell you why they try to talk them out of prosecuting/reporting..
It goes against their crime stats & is more proof that damned rock needs to be sunk.

[Helen Back]

For medical assistance ALL hotels have a doctor on call 24 hours a day; check with the front desk. Aruba has a first class hospital just a few minutes from the hotel sector and an emergency room staffed 24 hrs. Tel. (297) 587-4300.

Dr. Horacio Oduber Hospital
Sasakiweg, Aruba.
Tel: (297) 587-4300 Fax: (297) 587-3348
Hotels have medical doctors and dentists on call. Appointments can be made through your hotel

First man who answered the phone said that currently there is on one American in the hospital...and it is a man...he then transfered me to emergency room...man there on the phone said he cannot tell me anything...I must call the ALE with any questions...hmmmmmmmmm...so the games begin...

Destiny...

Patient privacy and all.  I have a feeling the ALE is going to be fielding a lot of questions very soon.  Bet the scramble is on at Rudy's house.

The poor woman who was assaulted will be at the center of a huge inquiry.  I hope that she is ready and has some support.

[Destiny]

For medical assistance ALL hotels have a doctor on call 24 hours a day; check with the front desk. Aruba has a first class hospital just a few minutes from the hotel sector and an emergency room staffed 24 hrs. Tel. (297) 587-4300.

Dr. Horacio Oduber Hospital
Sasakiweg, Aruba.
Tel: (297) 587-4300 Fax: (297) 587-3348
Hotels have medical doctors and dentists on call. Appointments can be made through your hotel

First man who answered the phone said that currently there is on one American in the hospital...and it is a man...he then transfered me to emergency room...man there on the phone said he cannot tell me anything...I must call the ALE with any questions...hmmmmmmmmm...so the games begin...

Destiny...

Patient privacy and all.  I have a feeling the ALE is going to be fielding a lot of questions very soon.  Bet the scramble is on at Rudy's house.

The poor woman who was assaulted will be at the center of a huge inquiry.  I hope that she is ready and has some support.

Do you think I should not make anymore calls?

[Rob]

I'm 90% sure I have the right building - and you can see it looks nothing like the photograph when compared to the Google Earth image.

This building is hard to miss when drive up LG Smith Blvd. It sits back off the highway and is quite tall compared to the other buildings around it. So it stands out.