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ldstlou
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #758 6/14 -
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Need help. I think there were 3 girls from Aruba as well as some here in the states.
Is Janet awake yet? Need our researcher..lol
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so much attention has been given to joran lately because of all his antics, but lets not forget he did not do this alone. There were 4 people at that poolside meeting the next morning planning the coverup!!!
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #758 6/14 -
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08-23-2005
Today’s Diario Newspaper:
There is a girl of 17 years old who apparently will press charges against Joran to the authorities for rape. According to this information that reached our editorial desks, apparently there are 3 girls who want to press charges, but that two of them have not yet decided, but that the other does have the intention of pressing charges soon.
And:
I can understand why a 17 year old, living on a small island, being afraid to come forward. The son of a local judge, judge in training, powerful man (whatever), even here, in a small town, there would be intimidation (sp).
But I wonder if he used the date rape drug, how she remembers it? I thought I had read that you don't remember.
a question !!!::::
Do you remember that someone give you rapedrugs , the next day ?
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Quote from: ldstlou on June 17, 2008, 08:39:38 AM
Need help. I think there were 3 girls from Aruba as well as some here in the states.
Is Janet awake yet? Need our researcher..lol
Morning Lisa...Not Janet by any means...LOL...I posted who I thought they were yesterday...will find my post
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Quote from: johan555 on June 17, 2008, 08:42:07 AM
08-23-2005
Today’s Diario Newspaper:
There is a girl of 17 years old who apparently will press charges against Joran to the authorities for rape. According to this information that reached our editorial desks, apparently there are 3 girls who want to press charges, but that two of them have not yet decided, but that the other does have the intention of pressing charges soon.
And:
I can understand why a 17 year old, living on a small island, being afraid to come forward. The son of a local judge, judge in training, powerful man (whatever), even here, in a small town, there would be intimidation (sp).
But I wonder if he used the date rape drug, how she remembers it? I thought I had read that you don't remember.
a question !!!::::
Do you remember that someone give you rapedrugs , the next day ?
good job johan!!
I was slipped one once...fortunately nothing bad happened after...long story...you remember not remembering...does that make sense? You are definately conscious of stuff right after...then bits and pieces when the drug is in full affect. It took me 2 days to feel normal again after...so I definately knew I had been slipped one.
Strange thing about Hayley to me was they took a urine sample to test. So does that mean they were back to their tricks while they were being investigated?
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #758 6/14 -
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Quote from: MumInOhio on June 17, 2008, 08:50:27 AM
Quote from: ldstlou on June 17, 2008, 08:39:38 AM
Need help. I think there were 3 girls from Aruba as well as some here in the states.
Is Janet awake yet? Need our researcher..lol
Morning Lisa...Not Janet by any means...LOL...I posted who I thought they were yesterday...will find my post
morning MUM!! You all are on the ball!!! Man...I still need a few more cups of coffee..lol
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Quote from: ldstlou on June 17, 2008, 08:39:38 AM
Need help. I think there were 3 girls from Aruba as well as some here in the states.
Is Janet awake yet? Need our researcher..lol
Natalee Holloway / Natalee Holloway / Re: Natalee Case Discussion #758 6/14 - on: June 16, 2008, 06:13:15 AM
Catching up…I believe these were 2 of the girls that complained about being drugged and the involuntary sex, that Beth had referred to and no charges were ever acted on. Carmen may have been the third. Dennis Jacobs???
Name: Karen Martina
Date: 23 June 2005113:55
Pages: 6
Writer/Initiator: Dennis Jacobs / Juan Boezem
Description: witness statement by a friend of Van der Sloot and Arrambatzis
Name: Karen Martina
Date: 24 June 2005 / 13:50
Pages: 5
Writer/Initiator. Dennis Jacobs / Marcelino Ras
Description: witness statement
Name: Stefany Mejia Cortes
Date: 23 August 2005
Pages: 5 (attachments of photographs)
Writer/Initiator: Dennis Jacobs/ Eric Soemers
Description: witness statement/complaint
Name: Stefany Mejia Cortes
Date: 24 August 2005
Pages: 3
WriteriInitiator.. Dennis Jacobs/ Eric Soemers
Description: witness statement/complaint
Name: Carmen Aurora Pacheco
Date: 29 August 2005
Pages: 3
Writer/Initiator: Dennis Jacobs/ Eric Soemers
Description: witness statement
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #758 6/14 -
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Redskin cheerleaders return from Aruba
By Anthony Brown | June 16th, 2008
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The First Ladies of Football returned home from their photo-shoot for the 2008-09 Swimsuit Calendar last night. The Ladies were required to fly to Aruba for the session.
Redskins.com TV has a video report of the trip that you can watch – over and over again.
I tell you, there are few thrills more enticing than watching scantily clad cheerleaders play tackle football on the beach. Someone, probably me, need to coach those girls on how to snap a football.
This entry was posted on Monday, June 16th, 2008 at 7:03 pm and is filed under Washington Redskins Cheerleaders. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site.
http://mvn.com/nfl-redskins/2008/06/16/redskin-cheerleaders-return-home-from-aruba/
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #758 6/14 -
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Quote from: ldstlou on June 17, 2008, 08:51:49 AM
Quote from: MumInOhio on June 17, 2008, 08:50:27 AM
Quote from: ldstlou on June 17, 2008, 08:39:38 AM
Need help. I think there were 3 girls from Aruba as well as some here in the states.
Is Janet awake yet? Need our researcher..lol
Morning Lisa...Not Janet by any means...LOL...I posted who I thought they were yesterday...will find my post
morning MUM!! You all are on the ball!!! Man...I still need a few more cups of coffee..lol
LOL...too much coffee here...I need breakfast!!!
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #758 6/14 -
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Quote from: MumInOhio on June 17, 2008, 08:53:08 AM
Quote from: ldstlou on June 17, 2008, 08:39:38 AM
Need help. I think there were 3 girls from Aruba as well as some here in the states.
Is Janet awake yet? Need our researcher..lol
Natalee Holloway / Natalee Holloway / Re: Natalee Case Discussion #758 6/14 - on: June 16, 2008, 06:13:15 AM
Catching up…I believe these were 2 of the girls that complained about being drugged and the involuntary sex, that Beth had referred to and no charges were ever acted on. Carmen may have been the third. Dennis Jacobs???
Name: Karen Martina
Date: 23 June 2005113:55
Pages: 6
Writer/Initiator: Dennis Jacobs / Juan Boezem
Description: witness statement by a friend of Van der Sloot and Arrambatzis
Name: Karen Martina
Date: 24 June 2005 / 13:50
Pages: 5
Writer/Initiator. Dennis Jacobs / Marcelino Ras
Description: witness statement
Name: Stefany Mejia Cortes
Date: 23 August 2005
Pages: 5 (attachments of photographs)
Writer/Initiator: Dennis Jacobs/ Eric Soemers
Description: witness statement/complaint
Name: Stefany Mejia Cortes
Date: 24 August 2005
Pages: 3
WriteriInitiator.. Dennis Jacobs/ Eric Soemers
Description: witness statement/complaint
Name: Carmen Aurora Pacheco
Date: 29 August 2005
Pages: 3
Writer/Initiator: Dennis Jacobs/ Eric Soemers
Description: witness statement
So Hayley was not from Aruba?
It was just eye opening when Heli stated they would not have the statement if it were not used to build a case against j2k!!
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #758 6/14 -
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The "timeshare" parties
Joran's (in 2005) 'girlfriend' and mother have a timeshare (house)in the area .
The other question is: would Joran indeed had a key to THIS apartment/house?
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Quote from: johan555 on June 17, 2008, 08:58:32 AM
The "timeshare" parties
Joran's (in 2005) 'girlfriend' and mother have a timeshare (house)in the area .
The other question is: would Joran indeed had a key to THIS apartment/house?
like he would really need a key to get in...lol...career criminal!!!
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #758 6/14 -
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Quote from: johan555 on June 17, 2008, 08:29:22 AM
Quote from: ldstlou on June 17, 2008, 08:16:50 AM
Morning Monkeys!!!
Do you remember how I was quite fixated on the Hayley Saganos statement and urine tests lists listed in the Dr. Phil suit?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
IS THAT THIS IDSTLOU ?
08-23-2005
KOSINSKI: Well, yes. We‘ve been hearing rumors about other young women out there for weeks. Supposedly, they have talked to police. But police won‘t tell us anything about this. Well, now this private investigator who has been working on this island for weeks says that he has tracked down one of these young ladies through her attorney. And her attorney says that this young woman claims - and she‘s 17 years old—that she was drugged and that she had unwanted sexual contact of some kind with Joran Van Der Sloot. Furthermore, she claims through her attorney that two of her classmates had a similar experience. And the private investigator sat down with his attorney, talked to her at length about this 17-year-old girl. And he says that she is now willing to go to prosecutors and try to press charges against Van Der Sloot. But keep in mind, we haven‘t been able to talk to any of these young ladies who had these allegations now that might help this case if they are proven to be true.
CLINT VAN ZANDT When I was in Aruba last week, and I knew these stories were coming out about Joran Van Der Sloot and about allegations concerning him and other women. But, you know, from my point as an FBI, a former FBI agent, I don‘t want to hurt the locals‘ case. I didn‘t want to—I didn‘t want them to say, hey, it‘s the media, who broke this story.
SCARBOROUGH: OK. Let me stop you there. Are you telling me, Clint, that you had information that authorities down there are hot on Joran‘s trail because other women are coming forward saying that he may have drugged them and then had unwanted sex with them?
VAN ZANDT: I was aware that those allegations were out there and
that they‘re coming from women from multiple countries, different nationalities
, Joe.
SCARBOROUGH: Really?
VAN ZANDT: And now it‘s—we keep saying give the police a chance to put their own case together. Well, somehow that information is—
was released down there and is going to be published in the local paper tomorrow.
I hope this is the incentive that you‘ve asked for, that Beth Twitty has asked for, that other women, if they‘ve been a victim of anyone involved in this case or anybody else down there, now‘s the time to stand up and say, I won‘t be silent. I won‘t see other women become victims also.
SCARBOROUGH: So, Clint, you—and you did tell us and other people told us that people on the inside of this investigation were looking at this Dutch kid as possibly being a sexual predator.
If that in fact is revealed tomorrow, do they believe, as you said last week, that the way to solve this case may not be on the beaches of Aruba, but in the United States, in Europe, in other countries where young women have gone down there and been victimized by this guy?
VAN ZANDT: I think that‘s going to help, Joe.
Right now, as you well know, we still don‘t have a victim. We‘ve got a missing person in Natalee‘s case. But we don‘t have a victim. We don‘t have a crime scene. We don‘t have linking physical evidence. We have statements by Joran himself that he took inappropriate liberties. But nobody can say that he or the two Kalpoe brothers did anything up to and including murder right now.
But if there are other crimes that he or others are guilty of, if other women have been victims, these are the things the authorities need to know about and start building a case, not only concerning Natalee, but concerning other women who may have been victimized who have decided, no more. Nobody else is going to be a victim of anyone like this.
SCARBOROUGH: And, more importantly, you can keep him in jail past September the 4th and continue to build your case against Natalee.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9051533/
Wow!
So was all that info released in the local papers there the next day 8/24/05?
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Quote from: texasmom on June 17, 2008, 02:57:24 AM
Destiny,
I just want to say that
Don't let any ignorance projected at other forums ever slow down your admirable ability to gain information! We've got your back sista! Thanks for all you do!
Thanks Tex...appreciate it...I do...and Thanks to all the nice things you wonderful Monkeys have said to me....I've never been the target of a disinfo campagne before...I can handle it...I think
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Quote from: ldstlou on June 17, 2008, 08:57:10 AM
Quote from: MumInOhio on June 17, 2008, 08:53:08 AM
Quote from: ldstlou on June 17, 2008, 08:39:38 AM
Need help. I think there were 3 girls from Aruba as well as some here in the states.
Is Janet awake yet? Need our researcher..lol
So Hayley was not from Aruba?
It was just eye opening when Heli stated they would not have the statement if it were not used to build a case against j2k!!
She gave a urine sample in NY for the FBI less then a week after NH went missing. Karen came forward along with two others from her class that said that she was drugged and assaulted by Joran. One of these girls Fathers gave a interview in one of the Aruban papers and said what happened to his daughter is eerily familiar with what happened to Natalee. He talked about Joran giving her a drink and it tingled her whole mouth and then she was assaulted. There are also at least two others who came forward from the states and the Dutch Investigators commented on these three Aruban girls,but added that a detective stated one of the girls was still in love with Joran so she did not press charges.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #758 6/14 -
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June 17, 2008, 09:12:08 AM »
Quote from: ldstlou on June 17, 2008, 08:57:10 AM
Quote from: MumInOhio on June 17, 2008, 08:53:08 AM
Quote from: ldstlou on June 17, 2008, 08:39:38 AM
Need help. I think there were 3 girls from Aruba as well as some here in the states.
Is Janet awake yet? Need our researcher..lol
Natalee Holloway / Natalee Holloway / Re: Natalee Case Discussion #758 6/14 - on: June 16, 2008, 06:13:15 AM
Catching up…I believe these were 2 of the girls that complained about being drugged and the involuntary sex, that Beth had referred to and no charges were ever acted on. Carmen may have been the third. Dennis Jacobs???
Name: Karen Martina
Date: 23 June 2005113:55
Pages: 6
Writer/Initiator: Dennis Jacobs / Juan Boezem
Description: witness statement by a friend of Van der Sloot and Arrambatzis
Name: Karen Martina
Date: 24 June 2005 / 13:50
Pages: 5
Writer/Initiator. Dennis Jacobs / Marcelino Ras
Description: witness statement
Name: Stefany Mejia Cortes
Date: 23 August 2005
Pages: 5 (attachments of photographs)
Writer/Initiator: Dennis Jacobs/ Eric Soemers
Description: witness statement/complaint
Name: Stefany Mejia Cortes
Date: 24 August 2005
Pages: 3
WriteriInitiator.. Dennis Jacobs/ Eric Soemers
Description: witness statement/complaint
Name: Carmen Aurora Pacheco
Date: 29 August 2005
Pages: 3
Writer/Initiator: Dennis Jacobs/ Eric Soemers
Description: witness statement
So Hayley was not from Aruba?
It was just eye opening when Heli stated they would not have the statement if it were not used to build a case against j2k!!
Here is Hayley's, Lisa...done in the US...FBI
Name/Title/Description: Hayley Carroro Sagona
Date: 06/06/2005
Pages: 3
File #: 163a-bb-1426
Location: Jamaica, NY
Writer/Initiator: SA Gregory T. Mchugh
Name/Title/Description: Hayley Sagona (urine samples)
Date: 06/07/2005
Pages: 1
File #: 163a-bb-1426
Location: Huntington NY
Writer/Initiaton Nurse Marie 0' Brain
Name/Title/Description: Hayley Sagona (results of examination)
Date: 14 June 2005
Pages: 2
File #: 163a-bb-1426
Location: Quantico,VA 22135
Writer/lnitiator. Madeline A. Montgomery,BS / Chemistry Unit
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Klaas posted this link yesterday, this link has a lot more pictures.
IMO this is not fake, and they are in the water getting him out
http://www.24ora.com/content/view/5082/8/
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June 17, 2008, 09:16:33 AM »
Quote from: ******* on June 17, 2008, 09:05:59 AM
Quote from: ldstlou on June 17, 2008, 08:57:10 AM
Quote from: MumInOhio on June 17, 2008, 08:53:08 AM
Quote from: ldstlou on June 17, 2008, 08:39:38 AM
Need help. I think there were 3 girls from Aruba as well as some here in the states.
Is Janet awake yet? Need our researcher..lol
So Hayley was not from Aruba?
It was just eye opening when Heli stated they would not have the statement if it were not used to build a case against j2k!!
She gave a urine sample in NY for the FBI less then a week after NH went missing. Karen came forward along with two others from her class that said that she was drugged and assaulted by Joran. One of these girls Fathers gave a interview in one of the Aruban papers and said what happened to his daughter is eerily familiar with what happened to Natalee. He talked about Joran giving her a drink and it tingled her whole mouth and then she was assaulted. There are also at least two others who came forward from the states and the Dutch Investigators commented on these three Aruban girls,but added that a detective stated one of the girls was still in love with Joran so she did not press charges.
Hi *******...I found three girls from New England...Conn., I think, on the Dr Phil log, and tracked one's myspace or facebook. She was a couple of years older than Natalee, I wonder if these may have been the other US complaints. I believe they were all interviewed within a day or two of each other.
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June 17, 2008, 09:18:08 AM »
Quote from: MumInOhio on June 17, 2008, 09:12:08 AM
Quote from: ldstlou on June 17, 2008, 08:57:10 AM
Quote from: MumInOhio on June 17, 2008, 08:53:08 AM
Quote from: ldstlou on June 17, 2008, 08:39:38 AM
Need help. I think there were 3 girls from Aruba as well as some here in the states.
Is Janet awake yet? Need our researcher..lol
Natalee Holloway / Natalee Holloway / Re: Natalee Case Discussion #758 6/14 - on: June 16, 2008, 06:13:15 AM
Catching up…I believe these were 2 of the girls that complained about being drugged and the involuntary sex, that Beth had referred to and no charges were ever acted on. Carmen may have been the third. Dennis Jacobs???
Name: Karen Martina
Date: 23 June 2005113:55
Pages: 6
Writer/Initiator: Dennis Jacobs / Juan Boezem
Description: witness statement by a friend of Van der Sloot and Arrambatzis
Name: Karen Martina
Date: 24 June 2005 / 13:50
Pages: 5
Writer/Initiator. Dennis Jacobs / Marcelino Ras
Description: witness statement
Name: Stefany Mejia Cortes
Date: 23 August 2005
Pages: 5 (attachments of photographs)
Writer/Initiator: Dennis Jacobs/ Eric Soemers
Description: witness statement/complaint
Name: Stefany Mejia Cortes
Date: 24 August 2005
Pages: 3
WriteriInitiator.. Dennis Jacobs/ Eric Soemers
Description: witness statement/complaint
Name: Carmen Aurora Pacheco
Date: 29 August 2005
Pages: 3
Writer/Initiator: Dennis Jacobs/ Eric Soemers
Description: witness statement
So Hayley was not from Aruba?
It was just eye opening when Heli stated they would not have the statement if it were not used to build a case against j2k!!
Here is Hayley's, Lisa...done in the US...FBI
Name/Title/Description: Hayley Carroro Sagona
Date: 06/06/2005
Pages: 3
File #: 163a-bb-1426
Location: Jamaica, NY
Writer/Initiator: SA Gregory T. Mchugh
Name/Title/Description: Hayley Sagona (urine samples)
Date: 06/07/2005
Pages: 1
File #: 163a-bb-1426
Location: Huntington NY
Writer/Initiaton Nurse Marie 0' Brain
Name/Title/Description: Hayley Sagona (results of examination)
Date: 14 June 2005
Pages: 2
File #: 163a-bb-1426
Location: Quantico,VA 22135
Writer/lnitiator. Madeline A. Montgomery,BS / Chemistry Unit
thanks Sweetie!!! Couldn't get it to copy and paste!!! lol
So she had to have thought she still had the drug in her system to be tested!!
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #758 6/14 -
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This Karen ******* ?
Karen Theresa Paulina
Allegedly was in porn video taped by Freddy. Joran admits to having sex with her multiple times.
PROCES-VERBAAL
We, Dennis Domenico JACOBS and Luigi Angelo Giovanni CROES, head-officer and officer-first class with the Korps Politie Aruba, first mentioned attaced to the robbery project team (Atraco Team) and the latter with the section often occurring crimes district 2, declare the following.
On Friday, June 24th, at approximately 18.40 hours, we, the reporting officers, interrogated/interviewed the suspect:
Joran Andreas Petrus van der SLOOT born in Arnhem, the Netherlands on August 6th 1987, without occupation student (International School of Aruba) and living Montanja 19 on Aruba, for further information.
His statement that was given in Papiamento was translated and transcribed by me, JACOBS, into Dutch and goes as follows.
Before we, the reporting officers, started the interview, I, JACOBS, informed the suspect that he was not obliged to make any statement.
I, JACOBS, also informed the suspect that this interview is being taped.
"You are informing me that you have several questions for me and want to hear an answer to those questions. I am prepared to give them.
To your question whether I know a girl named "Karen" and whether I had a sexual relationship with her, I answer you the following. I know the girl named "Karen". I do not know Karen's last name. I had a sexual relationship with her but I do not remember the time period. (By Karen we mean the witness "Karen Theresa Paulina MARTINA"; remark JACOBS).
To your question whether I had a sexual relationship with Karen during "Carnaval" this year, I answer you in the affirmative. During the "fakkeloptocht" this year I was dancing in the "Last-Lap". I think it was near the bridge of the "Renaissance Hotel" when I saw Karen. I saw that Karen went to dance with Jaime CAARASQUILLA, nickname "Beto". I suspect that Karen was drinking at that moment in time but I did not see that. After the "fakkeloptocht" "Jaime CARRASQUILLA", "Freddy ZEDAN", "Karen" and myself walked to "Carlos & Charlies". According to me "Koen GOTTENBOS" was also with us when we were walking to Carlos & Charlies. Inside Carlos & Charlies Karen and I walked upstairs and started french kissing. After that Karen and me walked outside and walked to the "Pier" due east of Carlos & Charlies. When we were standing on the "Pier" I asked Karen if she could give me a "blow-job". Karen agreed to this and started sucking my penis. I do not remember if I was standing upright or if I was lying down on the ground when Karen gave me the blow-job. I have to state that I wanted to have sexual relations with Karen but that I did not have a condom on me at that precise moment. After Karen had given me the blow-job Freddy ZEDAN called me on my mobile phone. Freddy told me that they were going to go home and asked me how I would get home. According to me Freddy also told me that he was at that moment in time sitting in the car of "Chato". The name of "Chato" is "Leonardo" but I do not know his last name. According to me Chato is from Mexico. Freddy, Karen and me got a ride from Chato. Chato and Freddy were in the front and Karen and me got into the back. When Karen and me were sitting in the back I think I asked whether I had a sexual relation with her, I answer you the following. I know the girl named "Karen". I do not know Karen's last name. I had Karen give me another blow-job, something that she did then do. Chato saw then that Karen was giving me head in his pick-up. Chato drives a green 4-door pick-up of the Ford make when he brought us three, meaning Freddy, Karen and myself a ride to my house. I do not know the license plate of Chato's pick-up. When we arrived at my appartment the 4 of us went inside the appartment. Chato had a hip flask containing whiskey. Chato and Karen drank from the contents. I have to say that I am not sure any more if "Freddy ZEDAN" or "Fernando VIANA" was in the appartment with us. Karen and I went to lie down on the sofa-bed and had put a blanket over us. Karen and I started fondling and having "foreplay". Chato tried to pull the blanket off of us to see what we were doing. Chato asked me to ask Karen if he and I could have sexual relations with Karen together. On Chato's request I asked Karen if she was willing to have sex with me and Chato together. Karen told me that she did not want to have sex with me and Chato. After that Chato and Freddy left. I do not know where Chato and Freddy went to. Karen and I were on the sofa-bed. We started kissing and I fingered Karen. After that I had taken my clothes off. Karen then took off her clothes. At that point I was told by Karen to put on a condom. I went to my drawer and took out a condom and put it on. After that we had sex with each other. I do not know if Karen bled when I had sex with her. At no time did Karen say to me that she did not want to have sex with me. I can also not tell you anymore what the condition was of Karen when I had sex with her in my appartment. She had been drinking but I also had been drinking. We had also both drank from Chato's hip-flask. I don't remember right know what kind of alcoholic drink was in that hip-flask. After Karen and me had sex I went to the bathroom and threw the condom into the toilet. I have no recollection of what happened after that.
I only had sex with Karen three times. The first time I had sex with Karen was on the beach close to the "Havana Niteclub". I do not remember the date, but it was during a "Moonlite Party". On the day Karen and me had sex the first time we had both had alcoholic drinks but we were not drunk.
About two months ago I had sex with Karen for the last time. This happened in my appartement and on that day Karen stayed the night with me. According to me I had told my mother that Karen would be staying for the night.
To your question whether or not I had sex with a girl named "Stephania", I answer you that I have not.
To your question whether I know the girl named "Stephany BOEKHOUWER", I answer you the following. This year, I don't remember the exact date, Freddy, Jaime and me went to a "Houseparty" in Oranjestad. We drove in Jaime's car to the houseparty. The car of Jaime is famous because we had experienced a lot of things in Jaime's car. Jaime has a 4-door green "Honda". On that day Freddy had sex with Stephany BOEKHOUWER on the backseat of Jaime's car. I gave Freddy a condom before he had sex with Stephany. While Freddy was having sex with Stephany on the backseat, Jaime and myself stood down at the trunk of the car and drank alcoholic beverages.
To your question whether I had a relationship with a girl name "Rika", I answer you the following. Rika was my girlfriend but we did not have a sexual relationship with each other. We may have done some french kissing but I did not have sexual relations with her because she is 12 years old. Rika's parents found out about our relationship and that is why we stopped the relationship. I do not know Rika's last name.
This is my statement in accordance with the truth".
J.A.P. van der SLOOT
After the suspect J.A.P. van der SLOOT had read the statement he had given, he stated he would persist in it and signed the statement.
The reporting officers,
JACOBS CROES
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