"I will stand with the Muslims..."

[truthseeker2]

Believing that the cold war is over is to be very naive.  Sorry, but it's true.  And yes, I know what liberalism and socialism are.  Socialists will use the liberals to push their agenda.  It's been going on for decades and took a firm hold in this country shortly after Gorby lost his hold on Russia.

The posting of that map says it all.  We are being overrun by government control.  Yes, people should do the right thing, and yes sometimes they do not.  But as a strict Federalist, I say you have to leave it up to each state to make it's own laws.  Many states are passing state constitutional amendments to ban gay marriage.  That is what the people want.  If the Federal government steps in and forces states to allow gay marriage they will have taken another step in the subversion of the Constitution and the Republic that were perfectly crafted.

Socialism goes after the souls of the people and destroys the individual from the core.  That is why the Liberals are such good "workers".  They are easy to deceive and they are foolish enough to believe that if it sounds good it must be good.  Most liberals are lazy and do not think for themselves.  Revisionist history is easier to listen to than actually checking the facts yourself.  A socialist knows this and uses this.

As for gay marriage...I have no desire to discriminate.  As a matter of fact I detest discrimination in any form.  But....to dilute the idea of marriage as many people have come to see it is what I do not like.   Civil unions would be no problem, but in order to push the socialist agenda that would not work.  The Socialist agenda is to breakdown what exists.  That is what this is really about.  It's not about "protection" or "fairness".  It's a step in the Socialist process.

[Dihannah1]

None wrote: "Louise - why don't you commit to defining Obama's platform for each of us, I'd like to see you commit to that since you're so determined you understand every nuance of him and his candidacy. I have to fly out for work but I hope to see some real and vivid effort from you when I return on Thursday. Should be interesting since most of the somewhat honest political analysts are already stating Obama's largest weakness is his lack of firm commitment and detail to a platform we can sink our teeth into. Prove me wrong Louise, go for it."
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None,
 
I love you but I will no longer reply to dares and sarcasm. To argue is a big waste of my time. Let's stop.
 
When and why did you become so combative about MY political viewpoint?

We have a two party system, right?

I can vote for either candidate and I don't have to state my reasons to anyone for my decisions. Right?

I am nobody. Do you expect that because I'm on this board that I should be a Republican?

Hi mama LV,

As you know I try not to get into name calling and offending those who disagree with me, I attempt only display my passion and seek the truth.   I know I have asked you before, what CBB is asking and aware you don't owe me or anybody else an answer.  However, I ask as a genuine curiosity as to what his 'platform' is, what he truly stands for, his 'real' plans of change are, besides, just the word "CHANGE".   Besides all the obvious reasons IMO, NOT to vote for him,  I want to know what his supporters see specifically what he's going to do for the benefit of America.   I really have not heard what his planned implementation of his goals are.  Though you don't owe me, I truly want to know what you see and how he will help, outside of his charisma.  My curiosity also goes beyond that in regards to you, as a respected jewish woman, who in my opinion, should be even more concerned.

With Love,

Di

[nonesuche]

Dihannah - THANK YOU for you did interpret my post correctly and I appreciate your support and clarification for Louise.

Louise - I didn't dare you to do anything, I challenged you, there is a vast difference. I found your post to Tyler offensive for you tossed off her opinion as if it were an infintesimal contribution to this debate. Yet you feel your opinion is more worthwhile? Debate is not about personal attacks but about having the wherewithall to defend your opinion. If that makes you uncomfortable then that's something you should be able to manage through without making personal attacks.

Instead of working on the plane this week I decided to purchase several periodicals (5 in fact) with a variety of leanings (liberal, conservative, independent), and read myself into a stupor trying to gain some measure of understanding around what Obama's platform might be. Know what? What I read concerns me even more, there is not a clear picture on where he stands with the exception of taxes and diversity, IMO. His stance on taxes is so full of risk that even the analysts are scratching their heads over why any candidate who says he wants to win would even be so foolish as to promise some of these tax reductions.

Then during my busy work week as I furiously dress while watching CNN from my hotel room - voila - Obama has now changed his stance on his campaign financing for now he wants to utilize/captitalize on his growing war chest. I notice ADS on the header of cnn.com advertising for CONTRIBUTIONS for Obama. I listen to analysts discuss Al Gore's recent endorsement and list concern after concern around why it came so late and what that implies.

If any voter takes a surface view of politics, candidates, or campaigns in this election then they are not doing their duty to our country and our freedoms. You have a responsibility to look beyond the obvious, to be sure you are educating yourself around the motivations and forces within this two-party system that are increasingly driving who runs for what now - and for my children's future and the future of all children - ensuring you know what you are talking about and voting for.

End of rant. There are so many dangerous nuances to Obama and his campaign that I predict just as he has flip-flopped quite publicly on the campaign financing........that this is only the beginning.

[Dihannah1]

Dihannah - THANK YOU for you did interpret my post correctly and I appreciate your support and clarification for Louise.

Louise - I didn't dare you to do anything, I challenged you, there is a vast difference. I found your post to Tyler offensive for you tossed off her opinion as if it were an infintesimal contribution to this debate. Yet you feel your opinion is more worthwhile? Debate is not about personal attacks but about having the wherewithall to defend your opinion. If that makes you uncomfortable then that's something you should be able to manage through without making personal attacks.

Instead of working on the plane this week I decided to purchase several periodicals (5 in fact) with a variety of leanings (liberal, conservative, independent), and read myself into a stupor trying to gain some measure of understanding around what Obama's platform might be. Know what? What I read concerns me even more, there is not a clear picture on where he stands with the exception of taxes and diversity, IMO. His stance on taxes is so full of risk that even the analysts are scratching their heads over why any candidate who says he wants to win would even be so foolish as to promise some of these tax reductions.

Then during my busy work week as I furiously dress while watching CNN from my hotel room - voila - Obama has now changed his stance on his campaign financing for now he wants to utilize/captitalize on his growing war chest. I notice ADS on the header of cnn.com advertising for CONTRIBUTIONS for Obama. I listen to analysts discuss Al Gore's recent endorsement and list concern after concern around why it came so late and what that implies.

If any voter takes a surface view of politics, candidates, or campaigns in this election then they are not doing their duty to our country and our freedoms. You have a responsibility to look beyond the obvious, to be sure you are educating yourself around the motivations and forces within this two-party system that are increasingly driving who runs for what now - and for my children's future and the future of all children - ensuring you know what you are talking about and voting for.

End of rant. There are so many dangerous nuances to Obama and his campaign that I predict just as he has flip-flopped quite publicly on the campaign financing........that this is only the beginning.

I apologize None,  I don't know why I quoted that to CBB!   Other than I respect both of you and Tyler for your passionate, educated and factful posts.
As for CNN advertising for Obama!  That is outrageous and irresponsible of ANY news channel!  I suppose SOROS, paid for that.... hhmmmpph.....That's why I watch FOX only, as they are truly the most 'fair and balanced', even if they are the most conservative news station.  It's no wonder he "appears" so charismatic,  the news channels are aiding in brainwashing people..

[Auntiem]

    You know I find it extremely hypocritical for Hilary to be jumping on the Obama bandwagon.  How could any politician (grant it the Clintons are a breed of their own), knowing what she does about Obama and well realizes what the ramifications  will very probably be, should he secure the office of Commander in Chief, flip to his side when it became obvious she no longer had a shot of being the nominee for the Democratic party.

    It reminds me of a conversation I once had with my brother, who, like my Dad, would vote only for the republican party.  I told him that he would vote for Jack the Ripper if he was the Republican running!!  I see no sense or common sense to that kind of thinking...but my brother had some justification, when he explained he felt that way because he was very pro-life and that is part of the  GOP platform.

    We are living in dangerous times.  We have terrorists breathing down our necks, ready to slice them off and I refuse to see the sense or logic in "gambling" with our Freedom and world Freedom....risking the demise of Democracy!!!
     I still feel very strongly, that every nominee should be heard and their words weighed before an intelligent decision can be made as to who will get my vote.

    McCain, is not my first choice, but his qualities, ethics, experience all put him far above Obama.  We know absolutely NOTHING about this man, his experience is limited, his ethics, questionable, to say the least...we don't know what religious beliefs he has or for that matter if he has any.  He is very confused regarding his Ethnicity, considering he is half white, yet is determined to "bury" or deny his Caucasian half ( except when it is convenient, or when he wants to mock his Maternal grandmother).  The only quality that has become evident in recent months is that he knows how to "talk"!!   And we all know, "Talk is Cheap".