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« on: June 17, 2008, 11:48:32 PM »

Obama's Red Roots

By INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY | Posted Tuesday, June 17, 2008 4:20 PM PT

Election '08: The word is that Barack Obama is a mainstream politician who sometimes attracts fringe leftists. The record tells a different story that he has sought out radicals. What does that say of his agenda?

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It's natural to be skeptical of excessive claims about Obama's radical associations. After all, there are so many. But one bears attention because it helped him get his start in politics. In 1996, he won an Illinois state senate seat on a "fusion" ticket of the Democratic Party and leftist group called the "New Party."

The New Party, founded in 1992 with 7,000 members at its peak, had been an explicitly anti-capitalist party of ex-Communists, socialists and activists from ACORN, the hard-left group that's constantly in trouble over voter fraud. The New Party didn't ask for Obama's association; he asked for the New Party's endorsement.

Blogger Rick Moran of the American Thinker has found disturbing particulars. First, the New Party didn't give its support and campaign volunteers to just anyone. Obama actually had to audition for it. According to a September-October 1995 update on the New Party-aligned Chicago Democratic Socialists of America Web site:

"About 50 activists attended the Chicago New Party membership meeting in July. The purpose of the meeting was to . . . to hear appeals for NP support from four potential political candidates."

Anyone wanting a New Party endorsement had to "be approved via a NP political committee. Once approved, candidates must sign a contract with the NP. The contract mandates that they must have a visible and active relationship with the NP," the Web site said.

So Obama signed on with this group and now remains in its debt.

That raises questions about what was in the New Party platform that drew in Obama. Maybe its own statements saying it was formed "to break the stranglehold that corporate money and corporate media have over the political process."

Sound familiar? One of the few things Obama reveals in his vague "change" agenda are plans to punish corporations. He rails against "corporate profits" and even worked in a condemnation of them in his first defense of Rev. Jeremiah Wright. So there's little doubt he shares a lot of what the New Party believes.

The New Party also has advocated a bill of rights for children, a shorter work week, a universal "social" wage and military spending cuts. These will undermine parental rights, lower competitiveness, lard up welfare and make the U.S. less secure. All are echoed in Obama's proposals. They are the hardest battle cries of the left.

Obama should come clean on why he sought these radicals' support and, better still, disclose just how he intends to pay them back.
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« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2008, 12:07:44 AM »

yes, that is just another version of that "Obama Sought Endorsement of Marxist Third Party in 1996" article that appeared two weeks ago.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2910.msg390437#msg390437

all right wing lemming blogs will start copy-pasting it from eachother. 

without checking any facts about the New Party and ACORN of course.

republicans are desperately seeking something and keep coming up with the same old stuff.
they think anything left of democrat must be marxist.

so predictable and laughable.

if in one of the debates McCain is stupid enough to bring up such a smear.
and the main stream media will start fact checking it, McCain will be toast.
so it think he won't be that dumb.

so it will probably will keep going around on the copy-paste blogs for people without independent thought process abilities.



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« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2008, 12:14:02 AM »

Caseu, I know you vote in our election, the reason for the keen interest.  If not voting in our election, I assume you are either Muslim or lean that way.  Do you work or just get a check?
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« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2008, 12:18:01 AM »

just assume away as much as you like.
i noticed you are good at that. 
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« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2008, 12:44:25 AM »

Oh, the Acorn, that practices such vile and illegal tactics, that the courts have threatened them with being brought up on RICO charges.  The ACORN that illegally registered dead people, people who did not exist and many people registered several times.  That ACORN?   No.  Thank you.  That's an organization that I want no part of.  I do things legally. 
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« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2008, 12:26:36 PM »

the way you describe ACORN, it sounds a bit like GOP election fraud.
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« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2008, 09:35:50 PM »

"Vote early and often."  That is the refrain often attributed to Machine politics in Chicago.

Round up the voters from the graveyards and homeless shelters.

I am a strong believer in one man (or woman) = one vote.

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« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2008, 10:34:00 AM »

    I, too, have wondered if caesu works or like someone else on BFN, collects dissability, and has the time to constantly be ON the Internet??
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« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2008, 06:42:44 PM »

    I, too, have wondered if caesu works or like someone else on BFN, collects dissability, and has the time to constantly be ON the Internet??

this seems to be an attempt to distract from the subject and try to start a smear.
you learned that well from the republican smearers.

i don't have to defend myself but i can tell you, your are wrong - again.

try something else for a change - if you can.
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« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2008, 09:26:54 PM »

the way you describe ACORN, it sounds a bit like GOP election fraud.

Now who is engaging in smear?  Once again, your socialist attitude shows your lazy intellectual prowess.
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« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2008, 10:06:28 PM »

the way you describe ACORN, it sounds a bit like GOP election fraud.

Now who is engaging in smear?  Once again, your socialist attitude shows your lazy intellectual prowess.

you didn't know how the GOP rigged elections?

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20010205/palast
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=4088097
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« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2008, 02:35:32 PM »

the way you describe ACORN, it sounds a bit like GOP election fraud.

Now who is engaging in smear?  Once again, your socialist attitude shows your lazy intellectual prowess.

you didn't know how the GOP rigged elections?

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20010205/palast
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=4088097

You act as though the GOP invented rigging elections.  LOL....The Democrats own the patent. 

The reason you wouldn't know about that is because your only source of information is what is published by Liberal organizations such as ABC.  In fact, there was a case a few years ago in the southern part of the US where white republican voters were clearly disenfranchized by a predominately black county and the coverage of the case never made it past the local papers.  Wonder why?  They were found guilty, but the "punishment" was virtually insignificant.  Wonder why? 
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« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2008, 03:34:55 PM »

the way you describe ACORN, it sounds a bit like GOP election fraud.

Now who is engaging in smear?  Once again, your socialist attitude shows your lazy intellectual prowess.

you didn't know how the GOP rigged elections?

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20010205/palast
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=4088097

Caseu, you are proof that we lost the war on drugs.
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« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2008, 06:21:58 AM »

Democrats can protest all they want about Obama's not being tied to Marxism or Communism, but the facts are the facts.

He went to a church for the last 20 years that is founded on Black Liberation Theology.  Black Liberation Theology is founded on Marxism. 

His friend and mentor from 10-18 years old was a well known communist party member, Frank Davis. Obama himself wrote about admiring Davis' ideologies. 

Both of the Obamas espouse Marxist philosophies in their speeches.  Don't believe it?  Do some basic research on Marxism, socialism and communism, and then watch some of the many videos of their speeches. 

It is what it is, folks.  If you can't see it, it's because you don't want to. 
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« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2008, 08:44:45 AM »

When I look at what is being promoted by either Democrats or Republicans, I do not see advocates for positive change.

Energy - I believe countries should strive to be independent.  Fossil fuels will run out eventually.  Why continue to focus only on one source? 

Grandma wisdom - "If your brother does not want to share the yellow crayon, pick another color.  God made flowers in every color."

The reasons for being in Iraq may never be clear (no idea myself), however since the U.S. is involved, the question remains "What to do?"

Remain?  Leave?  What will happen if we stay?  Continued losses?  What if we leave?  Chaos?  Loss of life? 

Send the military to Pakistan instead?  Maybe the Pakistanis want us to occupy their country too? 

Do any of these candidates advocate a booming economy?  Passion for new ways to do things?  Building a better mouse trap?

Are they promoting business as usual?  Living as parasites off of old money with no concern for making new money? 

How long does communism really last?  How long before it needs reforming?
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« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2008, 01:55:37 PM »

When I look at what is being promoted by either Democrats or Republicans, I do not see advocates for positive change.

Energy - I believe countries should strive to be independent.  Fossil fuels will run out eventually.  Why continue to focus only on one source? 

Grandma wisdom - "If your brother does not want to share the yellow crayon, pick another color.  God made flowers in every color."

The reasons for being in Iraq may never be clear (no idea myself), however since the U.S. is involved, the question remains "What to do?"

Remain?  Leave?  What will happen if we stay?  Continued losses?  What if we leave?  Chaos?  Loss of life? 

Send the military to Pakistan instead?  Maybe the Pakistanis want us to occupy their country too? 

Do any of these candidates advocate a booming economy?  Passion for new ways to do things?  Building a better mouse trap?

Are they promoting business as usual?  Living as parasites off of old money with no concern for making new money? 

How long does communism really last?  How long before it needs reforming?

Start paying close attention.  There are many ideas out there.  You just have to follow ideas and not denigration of the economy that has made us the greatest nation on earth.  There was so much technology that arose from Star Wars (Reagan) that it is phenomenal.  All the technologies you enjoy today were the birthchild of that era.  There are many technologies on the horizon that just need a congress and a president who will support them rather than depending on whining Nancy Pelosi and Nancy Bloomberg to tell you what is/what is not good for you.  Look at Obama, e.g., all the leftists are telling you not to smoke because it will kill you and yet Obama smokes 3 packs per day.  See, they are telling you what to do but not doing as they preach. 

About the war, my salute to the brave men and women protecting and defending and giving me the right to say here what I want, but I see the time coming when we are going to do our writers who speak the truth what has happened to Mark Steyn in Canada.

I will bid you ado with thanking the brave men and women soldiering on while some are complaining about the heat or the lack of it, the price of gas, or the lack of it.  They are doing their best, what about us?

John Stuart Mill, the English philosopher and economist, observed: A man who has nothing which he cares about more than he does about his personal safety is a miserable creature, who has no chance at being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.

God bless those better men and women who protect me and mine.
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