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« Reply #320 on: June 19, 2008, 08:15:16 PM »

O/T  sorta,  just got my Elle magazine and there are grafetti high tops for women!!!

White or blue?
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« Reply #321 on: June 19, 2008, 08:17:04 PM »

 Looks like we picked up Ponson for the minors. Humpfff

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 June 19 (Reuters) - Sports news in brief from around the world.

Baseball - The New York Yankees signed veteran right-handed pitcher Sidney Ponson to a minor league contract on Wednesday.

Ponson, 31, was designated for assignment by the Texas Rangers on June 6 but off-field incidents prompted the Rangers to release him.

The move will give the Yankees more pitching depth. They are currently missing Wang Chien-ming and young starters Phil Hughes and Ian Kennedy.


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« Reply #322 on: June 19, 2008, 08:17:26 PM »

O/T  sorta,  just got my Elle magazine and there are grafetti high tops for women!!!
You should buy a pair and a skateboard,it will save you money from not using gas 

Destiny posted the numbers on that very limited production. They actually made more womens then men.

The model name of the shoe in the image was called the "Classic LX
Graffiti".  In men's we produced roughly 7,666 pair and in women's we
produced 9,788 pair.***.it was produced in the 2nd. quarter of 2005.
That model of shoe was distributed in the US only
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« Reply #323 on: June 19, 2008, 08:18:45 PM »

DID ARUBA EVER FIND THE MAN THAT RAPED THIS AMERICAN WOMAN? 

Woman Claims Rape Where Missing Teen Was Last Seen In Aruba
Other Vacationers Say Island Is Safe


POSTED: 6:13 pm EDT June 6, 2005
UPDATED: 6:37 pm EDT June 6, 2005


BOSTON -- With its year-round warmth and nearly rain-free climate, Aruba has become a vacation oasis for thousands of Massachusetts residents. But in recent days, a dark side has emerged.

Amalia Barreda Reports On Aruba

NewsCenter 5's Amalia Barreda reported that a local woman said she was raped after leaving the same bar in Aruba where missing Alabama teen Natalee Holloway was last seen.

"Aruba is not as safe as the commercials make it out to be," said Marie, who withheld her last name.

Marie said she made four trips to Aruba with friends and believed the island was safe. That's why she had no qualms about traveling there alone for Christmas 2001. She stayed at the same Holiday Inn where Holloway and her high school classmates booked their rooms. On Christmas Eve, Marie said she went to Carlos 'N Charlie's, the same bar where the missing Alabama teen was last seen.

When she left, Marie said a man pulled her into his car, drove away and raped her.

"As I was being pulled into vehicle, screams came out of me that I couldn't imagine ever coming out of me of me and people did nothing," said Marie.
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« Reply #324 on: June 19, 2008, 08:18:57 PM »

A couple of thoughts on Sidney Ponson. He was given his unconditional release this week by the Texas Rangers despite a 3.88 ERA and a 4-1 record (by far best on the Rangers.) What did he do?? He tried to beat-up the bartender from a Hotel they were staying in because he was cut-off late at night. Ponson who was PITCHING the next afternoon was shellacked both the night before as well as in his start). The Rangers have another player with a LONG history of being a tempermental ass -- Milton Bradley. Milton was quoted yesterday about Ponson : "MAN, now THAT guy (Ponson) has some serious issues!!" LOL

Ponson would fit right in with the rest of the thugs on Aruba. I'm just a little sympathetic though as I commend him for actually hitting an Aruba judge!!


when Milton Bradley recognizes someone else has issues - you know that is DAMM serious!!! 

too funny

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that's not very happy if you ask me. 
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« Reply #325 on: June 19, 2008, 08:25:29 PM »

The whorehouses are closed on sunday nights so the islanders get a free pass if they have the urge to rape a tourist. Its there god given right as a Aruban citizen to have cocaine and sex available to them at all times 
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« Reply #326 on: June 19, 2008, 08:35:04 PM »

Oh.....another tourist dead in Aruba,  Renee Tiano, 2000.

http://tinyurl.com/6cycxd
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« Reply #327 on: June 19, 2008, 08:39:07 PM »

The shoes are white hightop sneakers with black lettering.  Ok, I am taking orders, how many of you want some???
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« Reply #328 on: June 19, 2008, 08:45:47 PM »




Hmm Did they ever catch that attempted rapist and abductor by the fishermans huts right before natalee arrived in Aruba? He sure looks like Steve Croes brother Cheremy Croes  Even more interesting was Cheremy's choice for a attorney when he was nailed as being one of the top people in distributing fake drivers licenses and id's,he chose the infamous Paul Van Der Sloot to represent him. It's a good thing that friend and co worker Dompig was a main witness in this case and PVDS was able to question him on the stand. Unfortunately Gerald Dompig the person in charge said all the records and evidence was lost when they moved the bldg. So Cheremy Croes walked away a free man...again..Caps said all of Aruba was shaking there heads after reading that 
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« Reply #329 on: June 19, 2008, 08:45:55 PM »

Oh.....another tourist dead in Aruba,  Renee Tiano, 2000.

http://tinyurl.com/6cycxd

BB - here's a kind of funny line from Aruba. just typical.

In fact, the medical examiner concluded that Renee had had intercourse in the hours before she died, and had a blood alcohol level of .196, more than twice Massachusetts' legal driving limit.


first of all - she not in Massachusetts.
second - did she drive off the balcony?
third - if she was from St. Petersburg Russia would the line says and had a blood alcohol level of .196 less than half the legal driving limit in St. Petersburg?

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« Reply #330 on: June 19, 2008, 08:48:42 PM »

O/T  sorta,  just got my Elle magazine and there are grafetti high tops for women!!!

Bet all this damn talk about them made K-Swiss think they might be popular again...LOL....
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« Reply #331 on: June 19, 2008, 08:57:40 PM »

I've been catching up...all this stuff is really creeping me out...    icky-bad...   

I was hoping to some day visit the beautiful beaches, soft waves, and tempting restaurants.   

Now, all I think about is dead people on the beaches...ewww....

Stinky dirty gym shoes...

Thugs...

Maybe I'm just being oversensitive...
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« Reply #332 on: June 19, 2008, 08:59:04 PM »

For those who've been there...

What was Aruba like in the olden days?
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« Reply #333 on: June 19, 2008, 09:01:42 PM »

After looking at the bodies that washed a shore one last time..They are not even close in there stage of decomposing. I seriously doubt they died at the same time.
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« Reply #334 on: June 19, 2008, 09:02:40 PM »

If this offends anyone let me know and I will delete the picture. I am posting it because I wanted to show how skeletal the remains are and I am not so sure the other body was in the water as long as this one.


http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/3137/floater7re8.jpg

Whoa,is this a image of the 2nd body to wash up or the 3rd?

I did not have time to look at it closer last night to confirm it is the no 2 as it appears to be the same part of that beach and similar material placed on top of the body. I was just amazed how skeletal the remains were,something I did not see in the other pictures the previous days.

Exactly *******,that's why I thought this image was the 3rd body because it looked so different from the first 2 I saw.



I thought I recall body #1 missing flesh left leg, body #2 had both legs, and now this last one #3 is missing essentially flesh from both legs.
That's what I remember seeing too BleachedBlack.Of course I only looked real close at the 1st image of the 1st body and real quick at the 2nd and 3rd images.Sorry,if this was already discussed....I am behind and haven't read ahead.
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« Reply #335 on: June 19, 2008, 09:06:20 PM »

I have a bunch of questions...these darn things have been nagging at me and since my mower battery is dead and I am recharging I have time to ask them...so here goes.  Didn't want to cut grass today anyway. LOL

Why does Rudy Croes not remove the Sloots from the island? He is friends with Paulus.
Has Joran not seen any of his family lately? If he can't go to Aruba, how does mommy keep up with him? I would say Joran has seen his family but we haven't heard it.
Where does all this money to fly around the globe come from? Dirty Money.
How much money does Paulus get to play lawyer? What is that in comparison to what that family spends?  According to Arubagirl he didn't make much.
How can Val fly around the world too?  Where is the money?  Hidden bank accounts.
What is Anita's salary?
If the shoe is not Joran's and it's not someone else's what was the purpose of the photos?
What happened to Daury?  Still in jail? Don't know.
Why does a U.S. judge continue to allow the Kalpoe suit to be in play? He is going to set them up.
Who told the Kalpoes that lawsuit was a good idea? What was the motive? $800,000,000 is one way for Aruba to make their money back they invested in the coverup.
Has Satish ever graduated? He is waiting for his sister to catch up.
Where is Momma K?  Does she work?  Probably doesn't work.  Has been paid off.
How much would Deepak's car sell for in Aruba when it was new?  Don't know.
Can he make that kind of payment working at a cyber cafe? No.
Where is Mr. Pink these days? Hiding.
What ever happened to Lorenzo? Nothing happened to him.  Business as usual.
How do we know he has a basement where they make films? Who told us that?  I heard that in the beginning of the case.  Don't know who told us.Why won't the FBI say anything? Same reason they won't give Aruba any of the files they have requested.  They have something and aren't showing their cards.
Who is Andres Meneses?  Where does he fit into this? Don't know.If they have a legal document that asserts Paulus picked up Joran at 4 AM, why has nothing been said about it since?  Who was that witness?  They are probably dead.
What is the only method of disposal that insure no body?  Cremation?  or buried in a place no one will look.Would Paulus take that chance?
How can Paulus pay off all these people?  Dirty money.
Why do the Sloots live in such a less than fancy house and still wield so much power?  They don't have the power Rudy Croes does.Why haven't they moved? 
What is on their property?  EVIDENCE OR POSSIBLY A BODY.
Where is Joran now?  Is he in school?  Drinking himself to death.
Where did the money come from to take care of this mess?  MAFIA/DRUGS
How much would a drug runner get to move drugs around the island?  We would have to ask Lorenzo.
Why is the family so silent lately?  Because they are watching Joran make a fool of himself.  Silence is golden.
When is the next hurricane due by Aruba? Soon, because we didn't fall for their crap.  If at first you don't succeed try try again.

I don't expect too many answers but I keep thinking about these things and more...just thought I should stop now.

My answers in red and JMO.
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« Reply #336 on: June 19, 2008, 09:07:04 PM »

The shoes are white hightop sneakers with black lettering.  Ok, I am taking orders, how many of you want some???

ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!...I only need *one* shoe...it's for a friend in thailand....
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« Reply #337 on: June 19, 2008, 09:15:00 PM »

If you add up all the drinks Joran bought just in the 30 minutes or so it would be around $100 including tips. Thats a lot of money for a 17 year old to spend when arriving just 30 minutes before the bar was closing on a school night.


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Think about it.  Underage Joran had the run of these drinking and gambling establishments.  I suspect that Joran, Deepak, Satish and the pimps along with Freddy's camera were all participants of one aspect of the underground ecomony of Aruba ... pornography.

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Well it certainly was not Drug Dealing as far as I am concerned,at least not Joran or Satish and I doubt Deepak. Joran may have sold a little X but I do not see anything more then that. I can't prove it but I am sure they were involved in pornography,not necesarily making much money off of it but thats what these Pimps did for there own conquests and enjoyment. I still believe there is a connection to bangbus and the pink patrol and that is why PVDS went to FLA and probably the motive for that night.

As far as how Joran got his money? Thats a good question as I would think that link would be the casino,probably the Excelsior. I do not believe these pimps made much money from pornography nor do I believe they drugged many female tourists,I believe Joran graduated from drugging a few local girls and taking pictures of them. They took it to the next level after meeting a porn producer or a older sexual deviant with $$.IMO

There was a dialogue a while back on this forum that implied that  there was a room set up at the HI for pornographic purposes.

According to Joran's declaraction ... he tried immediately after leaving C&C's to convince Natalee to go back to the Holiday Inn.  However ... Natalee rejected this suggestion.

I think that they is the "quick stop" within a block of C&C ... the "quick stop" that David Kock referred to ... was all about contacting the pimps that there was a change of plans ... the VDS' residence was the meeting place.

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Then Satish, Natalee and myself walked to Deepak's car. Natalee and I walked hand in hand. When we arrived at the car Deepak was already waiting for us. We got into the car and before Deepak drove off I told Deepak and Satish that Natalee wanted to go to my house but that I could not take her there because my father and brothers were home. After I told Deepak and Satish this they said it was OK. Then I told the girl that I could not take her to my house but that I could come to her hotel room. She answered me that she did not want to go to her hotel room and that she wanted to go to the North coast to watch the sharks.

To your question as to what Natalee meant by wanting to go to my house, I answer you the following. With this Natalee according to me meant that she wanted to have fleshly intercourse with me. I could see from her body language that she wanted to have fleshly intercourse me.
He talks just like a dang predator rapist.Fleshly intercourse?Is there another kind of intercourse you know about joran?
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« Reply #338 on: June 19, 2008, 09:18:49 PM »

Ha!!! Good one Destiny!!
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« Reply #339 on: June 19, 2008, 09:19:32 PM »

San...I liked your answers to Lala's questions!
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