Natalee Case Discussion #759 6/18 - 6/22

[sharon]

Learn something every day...Thanks Sharon!


 

I just emailed You more info on this....I hope it helps...

Did you get your answers?

JUST West of Miami International Airport. Area surrounds the Doral Spa and Golf Club.

Doral may include the DUTY FREE ZONE (or it is very near to it).

Doral is part of Miami. May be trying to become it's own city -- or close to it. Maybe they already voted.

An area of tremendous residential and commercial growth over the past few years.

Hope this helped.

[dennisintn]

http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl=en&u=http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_43643.php   
i bet this is going to be an interesting article.  it's "frido" ? croes answer to borg's farewell speech and croes says borg is admitting to being a failure on aruba.  i hope somebody can get the "subscriber only" copy for us.
dennisintn

Did you use spell check? I can always tell..Especially when Klaas is called Klaus  I hope Jorg  lights up major fireworks before he leaves in the next week..He is not the failure and it is obvious who is. This guy is not afraid to be vocal and I am praying he teams up with people like Rudy Lampe,Brinkman and others who are sick of these mobsters posing as politicians.

lol, i didn't use spellcheck, but it was google translator.  i am in total agreement with you on who has failed miserably on aruba, and it isn't borg.  of course rudy considers the situation as a total victory on his part because he was able to keep borg from throwing his ass in jail along with all his cronies.
dennisintn

[WhiskeyGirl]

Thanks for checking *******...now I think I'll run my computer through the dishwasher...

Your welcome. I still have a ton of unfinished work on this subject as it is time consuming,sick and a huge headache trying to link some things together. I run 3 programs when I do..Virus Protection(AVG),Adaware and another Spyware program,Plus the firewall and a program that came with XP..Constantly I was being hit by Trojan Horses and other malicious viruses. There is a joker out of NY that set up hundreds of traps,so I would be very carefull when searching certain sites especially his. He uses all the keywords that we would google that lead right to him.

I'm MAC flavored...don't get the nasty bugs....

I saw one of those the other day and I want one!  Real slick....fast...just plain cool.   

[Lala'sMom]

Learn something every day...Thanks Sharon!


 

I just emailed You more info on this....I hope it helps...

Did you get your answers?

JUST West of Miami International Airport. Area surrounds the Doral Spa and Golf Club.

Doral may include the DUTY FREE ZONE (or it is very near to it).

Doral is part of Miami. May be trying to become it's own city -- or close to it. Maybe they already voted.

An area of tremendous residential and commercial growth over the past few years.

Hope this helped.

Still confused.  What is the Duty Free Zone? 

[bleachedblack]

 duty free zone (DFZ)
Definition

Bounded and bonded area where foreign merchandise is brought in without import duties, for further processing or re-exporting. Import-duty must be paid on these goods if are released in the local market.

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I believe Jossy owns the Duty Free Zones in Aruba?

[San]

duty free zone (DFZ)
Definition

Bounded and bonded area where foreign merchandise is brought in without import duties, for further processing or re-exporting. Import-duty must be paid on these goods if are released in the local market.

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I believe Jossy owns the Duty Free Zones in Aruba?

What doesn't Jossy own in Aruba.

[Rob]

Grande has this listed as Jossy Mansur.



http://s66.photobucket.com/albums/h254/chicagoutfit/?start=all

Same address - now you tell me???

[Rob]

This is also Grande's - the Plainview / North Valle Cartel. Look at the very first entry. Do you notice the N.V.??? That's a Dutch company - possibly on Aruba.

[Tamikosmom]

Viewed on Joran's computer May 31st

Back Seat Bangers.com

IP Location:  Netherlands Antilles - Curacao -   

Owned by Vista Distribution, Aruba
Santa Cruz 62

(Brough's underage xxx films Little April, Teen Revenue
registered with Vista Distribution, Aruba)

Nasty Dollars.com
Downloads 2 films
(Private Video Vault)
705 Washington Ave.
Miami, FL

All Sites Access.com
705 Washington Ave.
Miami, FL
______________________________________________

RK Net Media, Inc.
Registers: AllSitesAccess -NastyDollars-etc.
Owners: Kristopher Hinson & Robert L. Garner III
705 Washington Ave.
Miami FL 33139

Old address of registrant RK Media:
444 Brickell Ave. #1001
Miami, FL  33131


Bang Bros. Entertainment, Inc.   
444 BRICKELL AVENUE
SUITE 1001
MIAMI FL 33131

Registrant: RK Netmedia, Inc.
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PLAINVIEW FLORIDA, INC
701 BRICKELL AVE., SUITE 1600
MIAMI FL 33131

ARUBA ALOE OF AMERICA, INC
701 BRICKELL AVENUE., Suite 1400
MIAMI FL 33131

Mr Pink Productions
PO BOX 1122
Miami, FL 33131

It sure looks like Mr Pink/Brough could be Bang Bros. etal.
and/or is associated with Michael Posner.

Most likely the reason Paulus went to Florida.  To get back the film.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2068.20

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PLAINVIEW!!!

Lala'smom ... you are the expert on Shango's riddle.  IIRC .. I believe that way back you pointed out a connection between  Plainview, Florida and Shango's Riddle.

I apologize if this has all been hashed over in the recent discussions.  I haven't time to look back ... gotta get ready for church.

Have a good day Monkeys.

Janet

Is there a Monkey who follows the Shango Riddle able to connect "PLAINVIEW" to "in plain view"?

IIRC ... there was a perceived connection shared a while back on the Natalee forum.  I cannot figure it out.

Thanks

Janet
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jackb
Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #2
« Reply #550 on: April 01, 2008, 12:15:05 AM »

Gods of the cowboys know there was a game in the great house,
and so DirtyHand was discovered

<snipped>

Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 9:57 pm

The gods of Babylon have orchested the refrain for the Arawak choir
the music which holds the answers lies within the maze

The threadsurfers are opening the door to babylon
be careful of the lions
DirtyHand does not have them tamed
but he can enter the den
tell the cowboys

Find the music
Only David left the den alive

Eyes of god may look from afar with great acuity.

The resolution to find Mary lies with the Arawak Nation

Dirty Hand has bound the Arawak Nation with Babylonian Rope

The Lamb and the two Shivas whisper in the dark,
while the lions pace silently in the bush.

Dirty Hand is the link!

The lamb, the shivas, the elder whispering, exiting like theives in the night, clothed with invisible armor

The lamb shall run anew in virgin fields, cropping sweet grass which should remain untouched.

The Lamb has sins, but the lions have sharper teeth.

A new key must be found to open unknown doors.

The first concern of the Arawak nation is wampum.

But unseen tides pull babylonian seas through Arawak Moats, bittering the waters.

DirtyHand and the Lions must see the light of Arawak Day, or forever walk in plentiful fields.

The dead shall eternally sleep if a clamour is not made.

Lamb and the Elder are stepping stones into the fetid pool of deception.

The rule of the Arawak King is the Final word.

DirtyHand has fouled the air for all nearby, but the Arawak Nation will claim Babylonian Authority prevents them from hunting Lions, and DirtyHand.

But the Arawak king controls destiny of all. The Arawak king has DirtyHands and DirtyFeet. If he is to reign anew, he cannot be soiled more.

The babylonians have ruled the Arawak Nation through deception and stealth, and their charges, the Arawaks, speak now with the same forked tongue, on behalf of their king.

The lions pace silently in the bush, while the king seeks pleasures with his concubines.

Threadsurfers! What is sought is not hidden.

Seek ye DirtyHand and the Fetid Arawak King who wishes to blame the babylonians for the behaviour of lowly minions.

If the head of the beast is in plain view it is folly to attack protected flanks.

Threadsurfers, DirtyHand is more vulnerable than the Arawak King and your lances should point in his direction.

Shango looks from afar but speaks with truth. He does not converse with the Simian, or any other worldly sources, and attempts to bring direction to speculation

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2733.msg369681;topicseen#msg369681

[Rob]

This one in interesting because Barranquilla was the place someone said Natalee was taken and was working in a whore house against her will. I had never even heard of Barranquilla before that and here it is.

[klaasend]

duty free zone (DFZ)
Definition

Bounded and bonded area where foreign merchandise is brought in without import duties, for further processing or re-exporting. Import-duty must be paid on these goods if are released in the local market.

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I believe Jossy owns the Duty Free Zones in Aruba?

I'm not finding anything in the Aruba Chamber that links Jossy or any Mansur to the Duty Free Zone in Aruba.

[Rob]

BB - here is part of the Plainview cartel. They rest was caught last summer in Brazil and Venezuela.

They also had a business / location on LG Smith.

[bleachedblack]

Klaas....in researching online last night and this morning I came accross a very disgusting site...I only found it through a cached google page...the original main link no longer works...the site looks like someone's culled emormous amounts of porn...every type the mind can imagine...and then some blech!  Off of other people's computers.

One of the active links on the cached page is named *Joran van der Sloots Porn*....

Do you want me to send it to you...it's really sick sick shit...I can't post it here...I don't want to post it here....what should I do? TIA...

Destiny

CAUTION! CUIDADO!
Some of you know Stephanie Good, the author, who works with the FBI to catch child predators.  Once, in chat, a long time ago, she said that IF YOU EVER COME ACROSS CHILD PORN DELETE IT.  DO NOT OPEN, DO NOT FORWARD, DO NOT CALL AUTHORITIES.  GET IT OFF YOUR COMPUTER.  She said it's illegal to have this and you could be arrested.  We were surprised that we shouldn't call the police, but she said just close it, delete it.  So if  you come across something like that and feel you must do something,  check with her through Red or Dana, but don't keep anything like that on your computer. 

This is true. If you have anything on your computer and you have to take it in for example to be repaired......they can-and may even be legally obligated to call authorities. I knew of this one guy ...that was how he got arrested. But --he was a perv--and he needed to be arrested.

[klaasend]

duty free zone (DFZ)
Definition

Bounded and bonded area where foreign merchandise is brought in without import duties, for further processing or re-exporting. Import-duty must be paid on these goods if are released in the local market.

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I believe Jossy owns the Duty Free Zones in Aruba?

I'm not finding anything in the Aruba Chamber that links Jossy or any Mansur to the Duty Free Zone in Aruba.

Still looking but I did find the Chemaly's and FreeZone:

ALFRED CHEMALY & SONS FREEZONE N.V. 
 
Business address ORANJESTAD VRIJE ZONE BLVD, ORANJESTAD WEST 
Legal form  LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY 
Name of the company  ALFRED CHEMALY & SONS FREEZONE N.V. 
Statutory seat  ARUBA 
Date of incorporation  24 JANUARY 1984 
     
Authorized capital  ARUBAN FLORINS 50,000.00 
Issued capital  ARUBAN FLORINS 10,000.00 
Paid up capital  ARUBAN FLORINS 10,000.00 
THIS COMPANY HAS BEEN CANCELLED ON 6 OCTOBER 1992 
   
DIRECTORS - AUTHORIZED PERSONS AND CORPORATE BODIES - SUPERVISORY BOARD: 
 
CHEMALY, JOHN ALFRED; 
Residing in  L.G. SMITH BLVD. 111, NOORD, ARUBA 
Born in  ARUBA on 11 MAY 1945 
Nationality  DUTCH 
Position  MANAGING DIRECTOR 
Effective  24 JANUARY 1984 
Authority  FULL 
   
OBJECTIVE(S) OF THE COMPANY 

[Rob]

duty free zone (DFZ)
Definition

Bounded and bonded area where foreign merchandise is brought in without import duties, for further processing or re-exporting. Import-duty must be paid on these goods if are released in the local market.

++++++++++++

I believe Jossy owns the Duty Free Zones in Aruba?

I'm not finding anything in the Aruba Chamber that links Jossy or any Mansur to the Duty Free Zone in Aruba.

I never heard he owned the Duty Free Zone either, just that he / his family may have sold Marlboro cigarettes there and the airport. And Grande says he owned / or was part owner of King Ocean Import / Export. Not sure how he could even own the Duty Free Zone. I think that's a government thing. But I could be wrong.

[klaasend]

Bleachedblack - I did find this but it's not "the" Jossy:

UNITED DISTRIBUTORS FREEZONE ARUBA NV 
 
Business address STA. HELENASTRAAT 9, ORANJESTAD WEST 
Legal form  LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY 
Name of the company  UNITED DISTRIBUTORS FREEZONE ARUBA NV 
Statutory seat  ARUBA 
Date of incorporation  23 SEPTEMBER 1994 
     
Authorized capital  ARUBAN FLORINS 50,000.00 
Issued capital  ARUBAN FLORINS 10,000.00 
Paid up capital  ARUBAN FLORINS 10,000.00 
Fiscal year  01 JANUARY thru 31 DECEMBER 
THIS COMPANY HAS BEEN STRICKEN FROM OUR FILES 29 JANUARY 2001 
   
DIRECTORS - AUTHORIZED PERSONS AND CORPORATE BODIES - SUPERVISORY BOARD: 
 
MANSUR, JOSSY ELIE; 
Residing in  IERLANDSTRAAT 10, ORANJESTAD, ARUBA 
Born in  VENEZUELA, PUERTO CABELLO on 22 JUNE 1962  
Nationality  DUTCH 
Position  MANAGING DIRECTOR 
Effective  23 SEPTEMBER 1994 
Authority  FULL 

[klaasend]

There are MANY "free zone" "duty free zone" companies in Aruba owned by many different people.

[bleachedblack]

duty free zone (DFZ)
Definition

Bounded and bonded area where foreign merchandise is brought in without import duties, for further processing or re-exporting. Import-duty must be paid on these goods if are released in the local market.

++++++++++++

I believe Jossy owns the Duty Free Zones in Aruba?

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I'm not finding anything in the Aruba Chamber that links Jossy or any Mansur to the Duty Free Zone in Aruba.

I recall reading it...still looking.......always thought Free Trade Zone and Duty Free Zone were interchangeble No?
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"Jossy Mansur is the owner and chief editor of the biggest newspaper on the island, "Diario". ""When I read an article in Diario, I know what will be the next action of the government","says Hendrik Croes, adding that the Mansurs create a climate of fear and intimidation on Aruba. Their newspapers force others off the market. Furthermore, ""their annual income is bigger than the yearly budget of the government. And you may guess how they make that kind of money”."""Jossy Mansur is not impressed claiming that accusing people of drug trafficking and money laundering ""has become a political tool to discredit them”." (75) Jossy Mansur acts as the family's mouthpiece, Ruben and the elder Alex are the patriarchs, and Elias 'Don' Mansur is the family's whizz-kid. Elias graduated at Notre Dame University, and was Minister of Economic Affairs in Eman's first cabinet. As representative for the Free Trade Zone entrepreneurs in a mixed Dutch-Aruban commission he has to recommend measures to tighten regulations in the FTZ to prevent money laundering and contraband, together with Dutch government officials. (76)

http://tinyurl.com/45dkq8

[always 1]

A duty free zone could even be like a commisary on an army base.  It is just the goods in that building.  Right?

[hotping]

duty free zone (DFZ)
Definition

Bounded and bonded area where foreign merchandise is brought in without import duties, for further processing or re-exporting. Import-duty must be paid on these goods if are released in the local market.

++++++++++++

I believe Jossy owns the Duty Free Zones in Aruba?

I'm not finding anything in the Aruba Chamber that links Jossy or any Mansur to the Duty Free Zone in Aruba.

Still looking but I did find the Chemaly's and FreeZone:

ALFRED CHEMALY & SONS FREEZONE N.V. 
 
Business address ORANJESTAD VRIJE ZONE BLVD, ORANJESTAD WEST 
Legal form  LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY 
Name of the company  ALFRED CHEMALY & SONS FREEZONE N.V. 
Statutory seat  ARUBA 
Date of incorporation  24 JANUARY 1984 
     
Authorized capital  ARUBAN FLORINS 50,000.00 
Issued capital  ARUBAN FLORINS 10,000.00 
Paid up capital  ARUBAN FLORINS 10,000.00 
THIS COMPANY HAS BEEN CANCELLED ON 6 OCTOBER 1992 
   
DIRECTORS - AUTHORIZED PERSONS AND CORPORATE BODIES - SUPERVISORY BOARD: 
 
CHEMALY, JOHN ALFRED; 
Residing in  L.G. SMITH BLVD. 111, NOORD, ARUBA 
Born in  ARUBA on 11 MAY 1945 
Nationality  DUTCH 
Position  MANAGING DIRECTOR 
Effective  24 JANUARY 1984 
Authority  FULL 
   
OBJECTIVE(S) OF THE COMPANY 

This guy also has addresses in Doral,Cutler Bay and Miami Florida...hmmmm