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« Reply #960 on: June 22, 2008, 07:44:49 PM »



Company Profile for:
Atlantic Entertainment, Inc.
Incorporated by Jossy Mansur, Atlantic Entertainment, Inc. is located at 2750 SW 26th Ave Ste 750 Miami, FL 33133. Atlantic Entertainment, Inc. was incorporated on Wednesday, September 16, 1992 in the State of FL and is currently not active. Bryn, Mark J. represents Atlantic Entertainment, Inc. as their registered agent.


Company Web Atlantic Entertainment, Inc.
FEIN: 650357948


Mailing Address:
2750 SW 26th Ave Ste 750
Miami, FL 33133
Miami-Dade County
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State of Florida Incorporation Record for Atlantic Entertainment, Inc.
State:    FL
State #: V64387
Filing Type: Domestic for Profit
Created: 9/16/1992
Status: Inactive

Officer Jossy Mansur


2750 SW 26th Ave
Miami, FL 33133
Miami-Dade County
7 Companies at this address  President
Director
 

Jossy Mansur
2750 SW 26th Ave
Miami, FL 33133
Miami-Dade County   

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Registered Agent Map Web Bryn, Mark J.
444 Brickell Ave
Miami, FL 33131   

Bryn, Mark J.
444 Brickell Ave
Miami, FL 33131   

 http://www.corporationwiki.com/Florida/Miami/atlantic-entertainment-inc-4837647.aspx


It says that the company is inactive...

Looks like the registered agent is the connection.  His office was probably the corporation mail drop for these companies.


Bryn, Mark J.....Is an Attorney!
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« Reply #961 on: June 22, 2008, 07:47:37 PM »

Bryn, Mark J.....Is an Attorney!

Yep, the registered agent for a corporation or LLC is usually the attorney who incorporated them. 

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« Reply #962 on: June 22, 2008, 07:59:09 PM »

duty free zone (DFZ)
Definition

Bounded and bonded area where foreign merchandise is brought in without import duties, for further processing or re-exporting. Import-duty must be paid on these goods if are released in the local market.

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I believe Jossy owns the Duty Free Zones in Aruba?

And...I believe Jossy kept us from getting more info on *the shoe*.....
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« Reply #963 on: June 22, 2008, 08:15:54 PM »

duty free zone (DFZ)
Definition

Bounded and bonded area where foreign merchandise is brought in without import duties, for further processing or re-exporting. Import-duty must be paid on these goods if are released in the local market.

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I believe Jossy owns the Duty Free Zones in Aruba?

And...I believe Jossy kept us from getting more info on *the shoe*.....

Klaas...you know why I *feel* this is true...I sent you a private email concernig the letter...and Jossy asking my contact...certain questions regarding the conversation I had with them....

Destiny...sorry I don't trust Jossy....
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« Reply #964 on: June 22, 2008, 08:19:41 PM »

duty free zone (DFZ)
Definition

Bounded and bonded area where foreign merchandise is brought in without import duties, for further processing or re-exporting. Import-duty must be paid on these goods if are released in the local market.

++++++++++++

I believe Jossy owns the Duty Free Zones in Aruba?

And...I believe Jossy kept us from getting more info on *the shoe*.....

Klaas...you know why I *feel* this is true...I sent you a private email concernig the letter...and Jossy asking my contact...certain questions regarding the conversation I had with them....

Destiny...sorry I don't trust Jossy....

Yes, I know.  I just don't know what to think to be honest.
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« Reply #965 on: June 22, 2008, 08:20:41 PM »

The OM,Jossy,Patrick and Peter Schouten have no business in the boycott group or the google groups for Travel Shows. I am suprised all of them signed up to be on the list as they are not welcome there.
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« Reply #966 on: June 22, 2008, 08:23:52 PM »

The OM,Jossy,Patrick and Peter Schouten have no business in the boycott group or the google groups for Travel Shows. I am suprised all of them signed up to be on the list as they are not welcome there.

You don't get on those lists easily it seems, I'm not even on those lists and I have no idea how to get on them.   
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« Reply #967 on: June 22, 2008, 08:23:59 PM »

This is also Grande's - the Plainview / North Valle Cartel. Look at the very first entry. Do you notice the N.V.??? That's a Dutch company - possibly on Aruba.



Trade name Staten Management N.V.
Legal form Limited Liability Company
Official company name Staten Management N.V.
Statutory seat Curaçao
Date of incorporation March 27, 1981
Date last amendment June 10, 1992

Business address Berg Arrarat 1 
Curaçao
Netherlands Antilles

Object categories of the business Trust Company (International financial services)(8426)
 
 

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Official(s)
1
Function Statutory director
Title description Managing Director
Name Frank Henri Christiaan Lammers
Address Jan Sofat 40 
  Curaçao
  Netherlands Antilles
Date of birth February 18, 1969
Place of birth Rotterdam
Country of birth The Netherlands
Nationality Dutch

2
Function Statutory director
Title description Managing Director
Name Sisulawatie Antonius Soedhoe
Address Grote Berg kavel E-13 
  Curaçao
  Netherlands Antilles
Date of birth March 4, 1958
Place of birth Commewijne
Country of birth Suriname
Nationality Dutch

3
Function Proxy holder
Title description A
Name Rense Gerard Boks
Address Kwartje 16 
  Curaçao
  Netherlands Antilles
Date of birth December 6, 1970
Place of birth Emmen
Country of birth The Netherlands
Nationality Dutch
 
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« Reply #968 on: June 22, 2008, 08:29:20 PM »

The OM,Jossy,Patrick and Peter Schouten have no business in the boycott group or the google groups for Travel Shows. I am suprised all of them signed up to be on the list as they are not welcome there.

You don't get on those lists easily it seems, I'm not even on those lists and I have no idea how to get on them.   
Not only did they sign up but they were accepted and were receiving the emails..lol..I was pretty shocked to see Jossy's personal email,the OM in Aruba and somehow Peter Schouten even snuck in there. I didnt see him until he felt the urge to post a letter from Patrick saying how dissapointed he was in all of us for boycotting. He asked one thing from us after he solved the case and put beth at peace,and we couldn't fullfill that one simple request after all he did for us and the reward money he turned down.
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« Reply #969 on: June 22, 2008, 08:38:10 PM »

The OM,Jossy,Patrick and Peter Schouten have no business in the boycott group or the google groups for Travel Shows. I am suprised all of them signed up to be on the list as they are not welcome there.

You don't get on those lists easily it seems, I'm not even on those lists and I have no idea how to get on them.   
Not only did they sign up but they were accepted and were receiving the emails..lol..I was pretty shocked to see Jossy's personal email,the OM in Aruba and somehow Peter Schouten even snuck in there. I didnt see him until he felt the urge to post a letter from Patrick saying how dissapointed he was in all of us for boycotting. He asked one thing from us after he solved the case and put beth at peace,and we couldn't fullfill that one simple request after all he did for us and the reward money he turned down.

What Boycott group?  I have said this before. I like Jossy Buttttttttttttt I have had some bad feelings lately about what he is all about.  I know without him in the beginning Beth and Dave would have been lost.  But something has changed lately. I could feel  it in his last talk on Dana's show.  Just not the same.  Almost like he wishes we would just go away and get over it.
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« Reply #970 on: June 22, 2008, 08:40:46 PM »

LOL…Rob…just sharing what I found and saved…thought it might save some-one else some time…

I have come across SystemOne Technologies a couple of times, they used to be Mansur Industries.

http://www.systemonetechnologies.com/pressreleases/07_21_2000.pdf

SystemOne Technologies - Investor Relations - Press Releases
July 21, 2000 Mansur Industries Announces Name Change to SystemOne Technologies. May 11, 2000 Mansur Industries Reports First Quarter 2000 Results. ...


The last time I was following Miguel Mansur and Damilice Mansur, who is connected to Jossy Mansur.

LOL…I have read a lot of Grande’s posts and spent a lot of time searching things in his posts.
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« Reply #971 on: June 22, 2008, 08:42:06 PM »

*******, the difference in the 444 Brickell Avenue address is Manur is in suite 750 and Bang Bus is in suite 1001. That's pretty close if you ask me.

As of today ... it would appear that an attorney is occupying Suite 750 at 444 Brickell Avenue, Miami, FL.

I could be wrong.  Rob ... what sourse do you have that states that Jossy Mansur has an interest in Suite 750.

I can't believe the site I just access to verify Bang Bros. Production's suite number.

 

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Legal Professionals, Miami, Florida (FL)

Hahn Susan J Attorney
444 Brickell Avenue Suite 750
Miami, FL 33131-2406
Phone: (305) 374-8077
Business Types: Attorneys

Hahn Susan J Attorney
444 Brickell Avenue Suite 750
Miami, FL 33131-2406
Phone: (305) 374-8008
Business Types: Attorneys

http://fl.allpages.com/miami/professional/legal-professionals/index-26.html

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18 U.S.C. 2257 Record-Keeping Requirements Compliance Statement
18 U.S.C. Section 2257 Compliance


Bang Bros. Production
Mirka Kroftova
444 Brickell Ave
Suite 1001
Miami, FL 33131
http://www.wholesale-adult-toys.net/wholesale/custodian.jsp

Bang Bros. Entertainment, Inc.   
444 BRICKELL AVENUE
SUITE 1001
MIAMI FL 33131
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2068.20
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« Reply #972 on: June 22, 2008, 08:44:24 PM »

LOL…Rob…just sharing what I found and saved…thought it might save some-one else some time…

I have come across SystemOne Technologies a couple of times, they used to be Mansur Industries.

http://www.systemonetechnologies.com/pressreleases/07_21_2000.pdf

SystemOne Technologies - Investor Relations - Press Releases
July 21, 2000 Mansur Industries Announces Name Change to SystemOne Technologies. May 11, 2000 Mansur Industries Reports First Quarter 2000 Results. ...


The last time I was following Miguel Mansur and Damilice Mansur, who is connected to Jossy Mansur.

LOL…I have read a lot of Grande’s posts and spent a lot of time searching things in his posts.



SystemOne Tech/ Mansur Industries Miami Florida

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« Reply #973 on: June 22, 2008, 08:47:19 PM »

*******, the difference in the 444 Brickell Avenue address is Manur is in suite 750 and Bang Bus is in suite 1001. That's pretty close if you ask me.

Wasn't Ernesto's address something about Apt. 1001.  Nevermind, that can't be the same thing...the location was different.


Now, are you saying that Jossy is involved in the ownership of Bangbus?  Someone, please help me out here...I am confused.




Dirty hand stays hidden, but all are well-fed.

We must have a sacrifice
Hide dirty hand

If cowboys see dirty hand, many teepees fall. House of Babylon falls.
we must have a sacrifice to feed the cowboys.
they go back to the fort with no loot.

Arawaks worried about being caught with dirty hand

The sacrifice is the correct food to appease the gods, arawaks, and cowboys
but the foundations of the house of babylon will shake
even harder if Arawak Dirty Hand is revealed

Arawaks fear wrath of cowboys for DirtyHand
But babylonians live in teepees too
If the house of babylon is to remain erect, it must protect the babylonians who have lived in teepees, among the arawaks, for a long time.
babylon will agree to a sacrifice of newer teepee dwellers to prevent the story of dirtyhand being made public
Dirtyhand scares arawaks too
the sacrifice will be the correct sacrifice to appease the gods and cowboys
cowboys will leave without loot

The Arawaks are not going to sacrifice a scapegoat
Babylon needs to allow one sacrifice to keep DirtyHand hidden
Babylon scared of DirtyHand
Arawaks scared of DirtyHand
If sacrifice is made, teepees are safe, villagers and cowboys happy
If DirtyHand discovered, House of Babylon falls, Teepees crushed under great house


The babylonians are to blame.
The arawaks were worried about teepees and the cowboys.
They did not bring DirtyHand into the Tribe!

Even if you play cards in the house of babylon as an arawak, you still have DirtyHand.
If DirtyHand comes out of hiding, Babylon will fall and the cowboys will circle the wagons.
DirtyHand can destroy the Arawaks and Babylon.

DirtyHand is well known

All fear DirtyHand

DirtyHand is alive and well

As long as DirtyHand is not found
Aruba is preserved and Babylon will pay the price

DirtyHand and the fallen judge may not be crucified

DirtyHand is not an Arawak
Many pioneers have settled with the tribe

The card of babylon was already played
if it sings, DirtyHand will bring down the Royal House on top of the Arawak Nation

DirtyHand walks with the elders

DirtyHand knows the Babylonians that provided escort after the 2 shivas left

Are the children of the elders there, or did they flee to Babylon?
DirtyHand knows, this is his Power

DirtyHand walks in ALL houses
houses of the Arawaks, and houses of Rave
He can break the alibi

DirtyHand can break the Alibi, he walks all circles
The Simian knows this

Find DirtyHand! He too walked in this house of Babylon.
But not to satiate desire.

DirtyHand is not a child of Babylon
He holds the real key (video?)
The Arawaks fear his exposure
The house of babylon would tumble down on the teepees of the Arawaks
DirtyHand knows the cowboys will leave lootless.
He can break the alibi

Coverups begin with elders and the founders of the houses of Babylon
Not the minions
DirtyHand knows this

DirtyHand is the key
He walks with the elders
He walks in all houses
And he walked with the fallen elder
he was the hidden card that was played
now if he sings, babylon will fall on the arawak nation

DirtyHand has worked for the elders for a long time

DirtyHand walks with the Babylons, the Arawaks and is consort to the fallen elder

DirtyHand can bring down all houses
DirtyHand is the key
His reach is long
He walks in all circles
consort to all, except for the gods
He knows the sacrifice is not responsible

Young Babylonians and Shivas do not build sand castles
DirtyHand knows this
Children of the Elders play in the maze,
but DirtyHand is afraid to rave

The maze offers many hidden desires
deflowerings of forbidden fruits
DirtyHand knows.
So does the elder.
The lamb is a scapegoat.
DirtyHand has walked through the maze
He knows of the forbidden fruit
and the gardeners

DirtyHand does not play with the lions
but he has entered the maze
the lamb is a scapegoat
DirtyHand knows
So does the Elder

DirtyHand knows, but is afraid of the Arawak Nation





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« Reply #974 on: June 22, 2008, 08:50:00 PM »

I could be wrong.  Rob ... what sourse do you have that states that Jossy Mansur has an interest in Suite 750.

Janet - those are screen captures from 2005. The listing for Atlantic says it is now inactive. No idea why it's inactive now, but it was in business in 05. And the attorney in the suite now is probably right, but we need to look at the list from 05. In 05 according to Grande's records and screen shots that suite was used by Atlantic or an associate of Atlantic. There is also an address for Atlantic just slightly south of the Brickell address and that is listed as the mailing address. . Again, if I am understand this all correctly.
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« Reply #975 on: June 22, 2008, 08:53:05 PM »

The OM,Jossy,Patrick and Peter Schouten have no business in the boycott group or the google groups for Travel Shows. I am suprised all of them signed up to be on the list as they are not welcome there.

You don't get on those lists easily it seems, I'm not even on those lists and I have no idea how to get on them.   
Not only did they sign up but they were accepted and were receiving the emails..lol..I was pretty shocked to see Jossy's personal email,the OM in Aruba and somehow Peter Schouten even snuck in there. I didnt see him until he felt the urge to post a letter from Patrick saying how dissapointed he was in all of us for boycotting. He asked one thing from us after he solved the case and put beth at peace,and we couldn't fullfill that one simple request after all he did for us and the reward money he turned down.

I understand that, my point is that I have NO IDEA where to sign up and nobody has offered that information to me.  Now, I will say that I normally would not sign up for ANY email list but still, wouldn't you think I'd be on it?
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« Reply #976 on: June 22, 2008, 08:53:16 PM »

Thank Pita, now I remember, it was Blackmore on LG Smith - not Staten. Blackmore is the Plainview /Norte Valle Cartel entity on Aruba IIRC.
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« Reply #977 on: June 22, 2008, 08:53:23 PM »

Bryn, Mark J.....Is an Attorney!

Yep, the registered agent for a corporation or LLC is usually the attorney who incorporated them. 


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« Reply #978 on: June 22, 2008, 08:54:31 PM »

*******, the difference in the 444 Brickell Avenue address is Manur is in suite 750 and Bang Bus is in suite 1001. That's pretty close if you ask me.

Wasn't Ernesto's address something about Apt. 1001.  Nevermind, that can't be the same thing...the location was different.


Now, are you saying that Jossy is involved in the ownership of Bangbus?  Someone, please help me out here...I am confused.




Dirty hand stays hidden, but all are well-fed.

We must have a sacrifice
Hide dirty hand

If cowboys see dirty hand, many teepees fall. House of Babylon falls.
we must have a sacrifice to feed the cowboys.
they go back to the fort with no loot.

Arawaks worried about being caught with dirty hand

The sacrifice is the correct food to appease the gods, arawaks, and cowboys
but the foundations of the house of babylon will shake
even harder if Arawak Dirty Hand is revealed

Arawaks fear wrath of cowboys for DirtyHand
But babylonians live in teepees too
If the house of babylon is to remain erect, it must protect the babylonians who have lived in teepees, among the arawaks, for a long time.
babylon will agree to a sacrifice of newer teepee dwellers to prevent the story of dirtyhand being made public
Dirtyhand scares arawaks too
the sacrifice will be the correct sacrifice to appease the gods and cowboys
cowboys will leave without loot

The Arawaks are not going to sacrifice a scapegoat
Babylon needs to allow one sacrifice to keep DirtyHand hidden
Babylon scared of DirtyHand
Arawaks scared of DirtyHand
If sacrifice is made, teepees are safe, villagers and cowboys happy
If DirtyHand discovered, House of Babylon falls, Teepees crushed under great house


The babylonians are to blame.
The arawaks were worried about teepees and the cowboys.
They did not bring DirtyHand into the Tribe!

Even if you play cards in the house of babylon as an arawak, you still have DirtyHand.
If DirtyHand comes out of hiding, Babylon will fall and the cowboys will circle the wagons.
DirtyHand can destroy the Arawaks and Babylon.

DirtyHand is well known

All fear DirtyHand

DirtyHand is alive and well

As long as DirtyHand is not found
Aruba is preserved and Babylon will pay the price

DirtyHand and the fallen judge may not be crucified

DirtyHand is not an Arawak
Many pioneers have settled with the tribe

The card of babylon was already played
if it sings, DirtyHand will bring down the Royal House on top of the Arawak Nation

DirtyHand walks with the elders

DirtyHand knows the Babylonians that provided escort after the 2 shivas left

Are the children of the elders there, or did they flee to Babylon?
DirtyHand knows, this is his Power

DirtyHand walks in ALL houses
houses of the Arawaks, and houses of Rave
He can break the alibi

DirtyHand can break the Alibi, he walks all circles
The Simian knows this

Find DirtyHand! He too walked in this house of Babylon.
But not to satiate desire.

DirtyHand is not a child of Babylon
He holds the real key (video?)
The Arawaks fear his exposure
The house of babylon would tumble down on the teepees of the Arawaks
DirtyHand knows the cowboys will leave lootless.
He can break the alibi

Coverups begin with elders and the founders of the houses of Babylon
Not the minions
DirtyHand knows this

DirtyHand is the key
He walks with the elders
He walks in all houses
And he walked with the fallen elder
he was the hidden card that was played
now if he sings, babylon will fall on the arawak nation

DirtyHand has worked for the elders for a long time

DirtyHand walks with the Babylons, the Arawaks and is consort to the fallen elder

DirtyHand can bring down all houses
DirtyHand is the key
His reach is long
He walks in all circles
consort to all, except for the gods
He knows the sacrifice is not responsible

Young Babylonians and Shivas do not build sand castles
DirtyHand knows this
Children of the Elders play in the maze,
but DirtyHand is afraid to rave

The maze offers many hidden desires
deflowerings of forbidden fruits
DirtyHand knows.
So does the elder.
The lamb is a scapegoat.
DirtyHand has walked through the maze
He knows of the forbidden fruit
and the gardeners

DirtyHand does not play with the lions
but he has entered the maze
the lamb is a scapegoat
DirtyHand knows
So does the Elder

DirtyHand knows, but is afraid of the Arawak Nation








SS...So is Jossy Dirty Hand or Shango?…I think he fits somewhere!
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« Reply #979 on: June 22, 2008, 08:54:59 PM »

What do all those businesses owned by Jossy do?  I have asked this over and over.  Does anyone know if they are legit or not? 

Let's look at this as a hypothetical...

If Shango says that dirty hand it the key to everything and we assume that dirty hand or one of them is JM...then that means that Shango can not be JM since he has outed dirty hand with this info...so that leaves someone that has a grudge or a score to settle with said person.  Just thinking here...actually I have been thinking this for some time, just have a chance to throw it out there for discussion. 

My next question is one I have asked over and over too...is there a connection between Ernesto and Jossy?  Still working on that one...there are some really intelligent thinkers on here...surely someone has some thoughts on this.
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