Natalee Case Discussion #760 6/22 - 6/26/08

[always 1]

Someone in the Shango posts were asking about a possible "prince" link to all of this.  Maybe, the Lions of the Netherlands??

[klaasend]

I can't find any info on Atlantic Entertainment, Inc. in Miami, and I know they are now "inactive".

The only Atlantic Entertainment, Inc. I can find in the US is as follows:

Atlantic Entertainment Inc
201-944-0114

335 E Brinkerhoff Ave
Palisades Park, NJ 7650

Categories: Adult Entertainment
 

If it is confirmed that Atlantic Entertainment, Inc. in Miami who lists director as Jossy Mansur was actually Jossy Mansur of Aruba, even though it is inactive as a company, there would be a connection through the same incorporating attorney, Mark J. Bryn, as BangBros, LLC,  Jeffery Greenberg. 

Perhaps Rob can confirm with Grande whether or not the Jossy Mansur connected to Atlantic Entertainment, Inc. in Miami, is in fact Jossy Mansur of Aruba.

Helen ... it most likely is the same Jossy Mansur.  However ... according to a quote I posted on the first page of this thread ... the connection ended in 1993 ... twelve years prior to  the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.

Janet

I don't think there is any connection between the current Atlantic Entertainment Inc in NJ and the one from the 90's in Miami that Jossy was connected with. 

[Helen Back]

I can't find any info on Atlantic Entertainment, Inc. in Miami, and I know they are now "inactive".

The only Atlantic Entertainment, Inc. I can find in the US is as follows:

Atlantic Entertainment Inc
201-944-0114

335 E Brinkerhoff Ave
Palisades Park, NJ 7650

Categories: Adult Entertainment
 

If it is confirmed that Atlantic Entertainment, Inc. in Miami who lists director as Jossy Mansur was actually Jossy Mansur of Aruba, even though it is inactive as a company, there would be a connection through the same incorporating attorney, Mark J. Bryn, as BangBros, LLC,  Jeffery Greenberg. 

Perhaps Rob can confirm with Grande whether or not the Jossy Mansur connected to Atlantic Entertainment, Inc. in Miami, is in fact Jossy Mansur of Aruba.

Helen ... it most likely is the same Jossy Mansur.  However ... according to a quote I posted on the first page of this thread ... the connection ended in 1993 ... twelve years prior to  the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.

Janet

I don't think there is any connection between the current Atlantic Entertainment Inc in NJ and the one from the 90's in Miami that Jossy was connected with. 

I don't either, Klaas.  I have never suspected Jossy of being anything other than an advocate for Natalee and the Holloway family. 

I just happened to "google" Atlantic Entertainment, Inc, and got "adult entertainment".  What are the chances I would land on something like that?

But are you saying that the Atlantic Entertainment in Miami from the 90's is confirmed to be "our" Jossy? 

If it is demonstrated that Atlantic Entertainment, Inc. in Miami was "our" Jossy Mansur, and shared the same incorporating attorney in FL as BangBros, LLC, then I might start to get nervous. 

[always 1]

Helen, I like your avator the best of all.  That little monkey is just sleeping right?

[klaasend]

I can't find any info on Atlantic Entertainment, Inc. in Miami, and I know they are now "inactive".

The only Atlantic Entertainment, Inc. I can find in the US is as follows:

Atlantic Entertainment Inc
201-944-0114

335 E Brinkerhoff Ave
Palisades Park, NJ 7650

Categories: Adult Entertainment
 

If it is confirmed that Atlantic Entertainment, Inc. in Miami who lists director as Jossy Mansur was actually Jossy Mansur of Aruba, even though it is inactive as a company, there would be a connection through the same incorporating attorney, Mark J. Bryn, as BangBros, LLC,  Jeffery Greenberg. 

Perhaps Rob can confirm with Grande whether or not the Jossy Mansur connected to Atlantic Entertainment, Inc. in Miami, is in fact Jossy Mansur of Aruba.

Helen ... it most likely is the same Jossy Mansur.  However ... according to a quote I posted on the first page of this thread ... the connection ended in 1993 ... twelve years prior to  the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.

Janet

I don't think there is any connection between the current Atlantic Entertainment Inc in NJ and the one from the 90's in Miami that Jossy was connected with. 

I don't either, Klaas.  I have never suspected Jossy of being anything other than an advocate for Natalee and the Holloway family. 

I just happened to "google" Atlantic Entertainment, Inc, and got "adult entertainment".  What are the chances I would land on something like that?

But are you saying that the Atlantic Entertainment in Miami from the 90's is confirmed to be "our" Jossy? 

If it is demonstrated that Atlantic Entertainment, Inc. in Miami was "our" Jossy Mansur, and shared the same incorporating attorney in FL as BangBros, LLC, then I might start to get nervous. 

It looked to me like the Mansur's of Atlantic Entertainment Inc (Miami 90's) are the same Mansur family as Jossy.  Let me go back and look again but that's what it looked like to me.

[Tamikosmom]

Time for a game of Scrabble.

Klaas ... would you please change my post to 12 years prior to the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.

I have been going around in a fog all day and ... climbing the walls ... no coffee.  I am trying to cut caffeine out of my diet but ... I don't think it is working.

 

Have you been successful at quitting smoking.  I hope so.

Good Night Monkeys

Janet
9:10 PM

[windy city]

Hi Monkeys!

Very interesting discussion tonight re; Jossy.

I'm not sure what to think of him at this point.  He did seem to be of huge help for Beth and Dave in the beginning.

Couple of things about him that have me a little uneasy.  If memory serves he made Karin J  "woman of the year" or supported her or something.  (I don't save any links and go strictly on memory) and I believe he also backed Jan van der Stratten and called him a friend.  How could any unbiased journalist think these two didn't help scumbag Paulus and his missing link of a son?

If he was connected to porn past or present, he's a dirtbag too, imo.

I hope I'm wrong and way out of line.

[klaasend]

Helen - I don't see where BangBus has the same LLC Attorney?  Is it posted and I missed it?  I know the address is similar but that's a large building with many suites:


Atlantic Entertainment, Inc.
Bryn, Mark J.
444 Brickell Ave (Suite ???)
Miami, FL 33131 


Bang Bros. Entertainment, Inc.   
444 BRICKELL AVENUE
SUITE 1001
MIAMI FL 33131

[Helen Back]

Helen, I like your avator the best of all.  That little monkey is just sleeping right?

LOL, Always 1.  That little monkey is a frog, and he has his hands around the throat of the Pelican that is trying to swallow him.  "Fighting while apparently on the the way out, hence the "never give up".

Are we talking about my avatar?    I wish it was a lil monkey intead of a frog!

[klaasend]

Time for a game of Scrabble.

Klaas ... would you please change my post to 12 years prior to the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.

I have been going around in a fog all day and ... climbing the walls ... no coffee.  I am trying to cut caffeine out of my diet but ... I don't think it is working.

 

Have you been successful at quitting smoking.  I hope so.

Good Night Monkeys

Janet
9:10 PM

Yes, 100% successful!  Nite Janet!

[Helen Back]

Helen - I don't see where BangBus has the same LLC Attorney?  Is it posted and I missed it?  I know the address is similar but that's a large building with many suites:


Atlantic Entertainment, Inc.
Bryn, Mark J.
444 Brickell Ave (Suite ???)
Miami, FL 33131 


Bang Bros. Entertainment, Inc.   
444 BRICKELL AVENUE
SUITE 1001
MIAMI FL 33131

Hey Klaas, sorry for the confusion.  It's the same attorney as BangBros, and Jeffery Greenberg. 

Here's the Sunbiz link:  http://tinyurl.com/54nxrh

[klaasend]

Helen - I don't see where BangBus has the same LLC Attorney?  Is it posted and I missed it?  I know the address is similar but that's a large building with many suites:


Atlantic Entertainment, Inc.
Bryn, Mark J.
444 Brickell Ave (Suite ???)
Miami, FL 33131 


Bang Bros. Entertainment, Inc.   
444 BRICKELL AVENUE
SUITE 1001
MIAMI FL 33131

Hey Klaas, sorry for the confusion.  It's the same attorney as BangBros, and Jeffery Greenberg. 

Here's the Sunbiz link:  http://tinyurl.com/54nxrh

Swell    Still, we are talking about Jossy's involvement with a company back in 1993 and that company may have very well been legit. 

[Helen Back]

Helen - I don't see where BangBus has the same LLC Attorney?  Is it posted and I missed it?  I know the address is similar but that's a large building with many suites:


Atlantic Entertainment, Inc.
Bryn, Mark J.
444 Brickell Ave (Suite ???)
Miami, FL 33131 


Bang Bros. Entertainment, Inc.   
444 BRICKELL AVENUE
SUITE 1001
MIAMI FL 33131

Hey Klaas, sorry for the confusion.  It's the same attorney as BangBros, and Jeffery Greenberg. 

Here's the Sunbiz link:  http://tinyurl.com/54nxrh

Swell    Still, we are talking about Jossy's involvement with a company back in 1993 and that company may have very well been legit. 

I agree, but a very large coincidence in a shared attorney, of all the attorneys in Florida!  There's gotta be a million!  Sometimes I find out just enough to be dangerous.   

But if my antenna really goes up, watch out!

[klaasend]

Not sure how accurate this is:

http://www.corporationwiki.com/Florida/Miami/Mark-J-Bryn-p43786.aspx

[klaasend]

Not sure how accurate this is:

http://www.corporationwiki.com/Florida/Miami/Mark-J-Bryn-p43786.aspx

http://www.lawyers.com/Florida/Miami/Bryn-and-Associates-P.A.-2674735-f.html

Bryn & Associates P.A. practices in the following areas of law:
Corporate and Business Organization/Transaction, Securities.
Firm Size: 3

Mark J. Bryn (Member) admitted to bar, 1978, Ohio; 1981, Florida. Education: Boston University (B.A., magna cum laude, 1975); Cleveland Marshall College of Law, Cleveland State University (J.D., magna cum laude, 1978); Georgetown Law Center, Georgetown University (LL.M.). Article Editor, Cleveland State Law Review, Boston University, 1977-1978. Senior Attorney and Assistant Branch Chief, Division of Corporate Finance, U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, 1978-1981. Member: The Florida Bar. Practice Areas: Corporate Organization; Business Organization; Corporate Transaction; Business Transaction; Securities. Email: Mark J. Bryn
——————————
Candice Gidney (Associate) born Miami, Florida, October 1, 1979; admitted to bar, 2005, New York; 2007, Florida. Education: Brandeis University (B.A., 2001); New York Law School (J.D., 2004). Formerly with: Wellspring Media; Sony Pictures TV; Genius Products; Warner Bros.; Sony Music Entertainment; The Weinstein Co.; Ferrante PLLC. Member: Dade County Bar (Member, Professionalism Committee) and American Bar Associations; New York City Bar (Member, 2004 and Board Member, 2005-2007, Entertainment Law Committee); Association of Women Lawyers (Member, Entertainment Law Committee). Practice Areas: Corporate Law; Business Transactions; Contracts. Email: Candice Gidney

Jessica L. Kone (Associate) born Baltimore, Maryland, April 16, 1981; admitted to bar, 2006, Florida. Education: Maryville College (B.A., 2002); University of Florida (J.D., 2005). Practice Areas: Corporate Law; Business Transactions; Contracts. Email: Jessica L. Kone

[klaasend]

Not sure how accurate this is:

http://www.corporationwiki.com/Florida/Miami/Mark-J-Bryn-p43786.aspx

http://www.lawyers.com/Florida/Miami/Bryn-and-Associates-P.A.-2674735-f.html

Bryn & Associates P.A. practices in the following areas of law:
Corporate and Business Organization/Transaction, Securities.
Firm Size: 3

Mark J. Bryn (Member) admitted to bar, 1978, Ohio; 1981, Florida. Education: Boston University (B.A., magna cum laude, 1975); Cleveland Marshall College of Law, Cleveland State University (J.D., magna cum laude, 1978); Georgetown Law Center, Georgetown University (LL.M.). Article Editor, Cleveland State Law Review, Boston University, 1977-1978. Senior Attorney and Assistant Branch Chief, Division of Corporate Finance, U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, 1978-1981. Member: The Florida Bar. Practice Areas: Corporate Organization; Business Organization; Corporate Transaction; Business Transaction; Securities. Email: Mark J. Bryn
——————————
Candice Gidney (Associate) born Miami, Florida, October 1, 1979; admitted to bar, 2005, New York; 2007, Florida. Education: Brandeis University (B.A., 2001); New York Law School (J.D., 2004). Formerly with: Wellspring Media; Sony Pictures TV; Genius Products; Warner Bros.; Sony Music Entertainment; The Weinstein Co.; Ferrante PLLC. Member: Dade County Bar (Member, Professionalism Committee) and American Bar Associations; New York City Bar (Member, 2004 and Board Member, 2005-2007, Entertainment Law Committee); Association of Women Lawyers (Member, Entertainment Law Committee). Practice Areas: Corporate Law; Business Transactions; Contracts. Email: Candice Gidney

Jessica L. Kone (Associate) born Baltimore, Maryland, April 16, 1981; admitted to bar, 2006, Florida. Education: Maryville College (B.A., 2002); University of Florida (J.D., 2005). Practice Areas: Corporate Law; Business Transactions; Contracts. Email: Jessica L. Kone

FYI - regarding the "corporationwiki".  I know for a fact there is at least one member of RU that is an active updater of Wikipedia files and has edited Wiki pages in this case to favor Joran.

[klaasend]

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=940DE5D8163CF931A25752C1A96E948260

November 12, 1988
The G. Gordon Liddy Story Continues With Chapter 11
LEAD: A Miami-based security company co-founded by G. Gordon Liddy, the convicted Watergate burglar who became a television and movie villain, has sought protection from its creditors under the Federal Bankruptcy Code.

A Miami-based security company co-founded by G. Gordon Liddy, the convicted Watergate burglar who became a television and movie villain, has sought protection from its creditors under the Federal Bankruptcy Code.

International Security and Intelligence Inc., also known as G. Gordon Liddy & Associates, filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy on Tuesday in Federal Bankruptcy Court in Miami.

The company's services range from alerting corporate clients to the presence of listening devices to teaching courses on how to plant bugging devices, but most of its revenues come from providing armed guards in South Florida.

The two-year-old company has also advertised its ''Hurricane Force,'' which it describes as an anti-terrorist squad of former American, European and Israeli commandos that is capable of rescuing kidnapped executives.

Mr. Liddy owns 30 percent of the business, but associates say he has shown little interest in drawing a salary, holding office or running the company at its current modest size.

Mr. Liddy was not available yesterday for comment, the company's lawyer said, because he was in Canada pursuing his other, more successful, career as an actor. He was said to be filming an episode of the ABC television series ''MacGyver.,''

''Liddy does not even know the bankruptcy has occurred,'' said Mark J. Bryn, the securities lawyer with Reisman & Bryn in Miami who is representing International Security.

[Helen Back]

Not sure how accurate this is:

http://www.corporationwiki.com/Florida/Miami/Mark-J-Bryn-p43786.aspx

Can't believe an attorney is in Wiki.  (that's a reliable source, not!)  Looks like a search under registered agent at sunbiz.org. returns more records, however, essentially appears to be the same. 

Can you believe that these records display the FEIN of the company?  That's like the company's social!   Oh well.

[Helen Back]

FYI - regarding the "corporationwiki".  I know for a fact there is at least one member of RU that is an active updater of Wikipedia files and has edited Wiki pages in this case to favor Joran.

You're right about that, Klaas!  Wiki's a HOT MESS thanks to RU. 

[Helen Back]

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=940DE5D8163CF931A25752C1A96E948260

November 12, 1988
The G. Gordon Liddy Story Continues With Chapter 11
LEAD: A Miami-based security company co-founded by G. Gordon Liddy, the convicted Watergate burglar who became a television and movie villain, has sought protection from its creditors under the Federal Bankruptcy Code.

A Miami-based security company co-founded by G. Gordon Liddy, the convicted Watergate burglar who became a television and movie villain, has sought protection from its creditors under the Federal Bankruptcy Code.

International Security and Intelligence Inc., also known as G. Gordon Liddy & Associates, filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy on Tuesday in Federal Bankruptcy Court in Miami.

The company's services range from alerting corporate clients to the presence of listening devices to teaching courses on how to plant bugging devices, but most of its revenues come from providing armed guards in South Florida.

The two-year-old company has also advertised its ''Hurricane Force,'' which it describes as an anti-terrorist squad of former American, European and Israeli commandos that is capable of rescuing kidnapped executives.

Mr. Liddy owns 30 percent of the business, but associates say he has shown little interest in drawing a salary, holding office or running the company at its current modest size.

Mr. Liddy was not available yesterday for comment, the company's lawyer said, because he was in Canada pursuing his other, more successful, career as an actor. He was said to be filming an episode of the ABC television series ''MacGyver.,''

''Liddy does not even know the bankruptcy has occurred,'' said Mark J. Bryn, the securities lawyer with Reisman & Bryn in Miami who is representing International Security.

Oh no, he ditn say that!  LOL

That's just tooo funny!