Natalee Case Discussion #760 6/22 - 6/26/08

[Blonde]

I miss Deetch, I hope he's OK.

[Dayhiker]

I think it's much simpler...she died from being drugged.  The devil is in the details.

    Kinda think it was simple too, Las. Might even have been prosecuted had it not been for the "higher-ups" Joran says helped him out. That may have been one of the most overlooked statements of all that came out of his soirees with Patrick.

[Rob]

Just listened to the PatrickVDEem pressconference ( http://tinyurl.com/549pwh ) It's explicitly said there that Joran didn't take cocaine during the rides with Patrick. Patrick only saw Joran take cocaine once or twice in seven months. And the spokesman of Patrick pressed on the fact that Joran wasn't high on marihuana on ALL the rides.

(Off to bed now. Good night.)

thank you and good night EURobert.

So, he only did it twice in the presence of Patrick. So, he probably does it infrequently, when he CAN afford it. Like when he's rippin' off Mart Bakx. I believe Joran DOES COKE. When he can have it for free, and that alone is probably often, and I believe he buys coke.

sue me!

[Rob]

I don't want to sound dumb...but is 2-3 gr. of cocaine a lot to do in a day??  I have no idea how much an addict uses.  What would be the price per day??

That amount would be used by the heaviest of cocaine addicts. Thats like $150-200 a day but obviously he is buying in big amounts,especially if he is sharing it with Joran and the whores they picked up together.

 

I hate to say it,but Peter could have easily been responsible if Patrick Overdosed. What was he paying him like 5,000 euros a month? Is that what they bought there cocaine with? He had to of known this was a addict and Patrick said himself that De Vries almost stopped it all.

truly excellent point.

[Buckeye]

Just listened to the PatrickVDEem pressconference ( http://tinyurl.com/549pwh ) It's explicitly said there that Joran didn't take cocaine during the rides with Patrick. Patrick only saw Joran take cocaine once or twice in seven months. And the spokesman of Patrick pressed on the fact that Joran wasn't high on marihuana on ALL the rides.

(Off to bed now. Good night.)

thank you and good night EURobert.

So, he only did it twice in the presence of Patrick. So, he probably does it infrequently, when he CAN afford it. Like when he's rippin' off Mart Bakx. I believe Joran DOES COKE. When he can have it for free, and that alone is probably often, and I believe he buys coke.

sue me!

In his book, he talked of using the urine, of the only kid in KIA, that didn't "blow".  I'm thinking that he wasn't talking marijuana....  never heard that called blow.

[Dayhiker]

And what better person to help him get on with his life than his FATHER?  "I would do anything for my son".

And on Pustus' anything short list would be murder, disposal of a body, aiding and abetting a criminal, lying under oath. Just to name a few.

[Buckeye]

Lucky that Patrick didn't wreck the Landrover.

[Observer]

In his book, he talked of using the urine, of the only kid in KIA, that didn't "blow".  I'm thinking that he wasn't talking marijuana....  never heard that called blow.

For sure that means cocaine but apparently in Aruba it means smoking pot 

[Dayhiker]

In his book, he talked of using the urine, of the only kid in KIA, that didn't "blow".  I'm thinking that he wasn't talking marijuana....  never heard that called blow.

Doubt seriously they even bother to check for weed in the bloodstream. Marijuana is the national pastime of Aruba.

[Rob]

 

[Dayhiker]

I miss Deetch, I hope he's OK.

I do too Blonde and hope he will re-appear. Can't say AHATA feels the same.  

[Observer]

Doubt seriously they even bother to check for weed in the bloodstream. Marijuana is the national pastime of Aruba.

I disagree..I think it's cocaine. They have one of the highest percentages of cocaine users in the world.

[imnoangel]

over here in holland smoking pot is called 'blowing'' or smoking a blow.
not taking coke.
hi all 

[SS]

Just listened to the PatrickVDEem pressconference ( http://tinyurl.com/549pwh ) It's explicitly said there that Joran didn't take cocaine during the rides with Patrick. Patrick only saw Joran take cocaine once or twice in seven months. And the spokesman of Patrick pressed on the fact that Joran wasn't high on marihuana on ALL the rides.

(Off to bed now. Good night.)

thank you and good night EURobert.

So, he only did it twice in the presence of Patrick. So, he probably does it infrequently, when he CAN afford it. Like when he's rippin' off Mart Bakx. I believe Joran DOES COKE. When he can have it for free, and that alone is probably often, and I believe he buys coke.

sue me!

In his book, he talked of using the urine, of the only kid in KIA, that didn't "blow".  I'm thinking that he wasn't talking marijuana....  never heard that called blow.

I wonder how much Paulass ended up paying the kid for sharing his clean urine.

[carpe noctem]

Just listened to the PatrickVDEem pressconference ( http://tinyurl.com/549pwh ) It's explicitly said there that Joran didn't take cocaine during the rides with Patrick. Patrick only saw Joran take cocaine once or twice in seven months. And the spokesman of Patrick pressed on the fact that Joran wasn't high on marihuana on ALL the rides.

(Off to bed now. Good night.)

thank you and good night EURobert.

So, he only did it twice in the presence of Patrick. So, he probably does it infrequently, when he CAN afford it. Like when he's rippin' off Mart Bakx. I believe Joran DOES COKE. When he can have it for free, and that alone is probably often, and I believe he buys coke.

sue me!

Sue ya, Rob?

Chit, I'll kiss yaaaaa!!!!

I'd give the boy all he wants... if I did the stuff.

Hand him his bicycle, take away his special helmet,

and let him drive his azz right into a wall.

[dennisintn]

The "Natalee was taken off island" people have long held she was bought for a rich dude.  I just don't see that...I can see some of Caps theories being more plausible.  I just can't bring myself to think about the sex slave angle...it just boggles my mind and makes my tummy ache too.

I think what happened to her was very close to what Joran said on tape happened to her. She died at the hands of a sociopathic teenager and her body was disposed of so he could get on with his "sporter" lifestyle.

i'm with you on that, btg.  that natalee died at his hand is the only part i believe though.  i would bet money that natalee had to be hidden because of what autopsy would show that had happened to her by his hand.
dennisintn

[Observer]

over here in holland smoking pot is called 'blowing'' or smoking a blow.
not taking coke.
hi all 

Hello there Thanks for confriming that! Here in the states blow is cocaine.

[Dayhiker]

The "Natalee was taken off island" people have long held she was bought for a rich dude.  I just don't see that...I can see some of Caps theories being more plausible.  I just can't bring myself to think about the sex slave angle...it just boggles my mind and makes my tummy ache too.

I think what happened to her was very close to what Joran said on tape happened to her. She died at the hands of a sociopathic teenager and her body was disposed of so he could get on with his "sporter" lifestyle.

i'm with you on that, btg.  that natalee died at his hand is the only part i believe though.  i would bet money that natalee had to be hidden because of what autopsy would show that had happened to her by his hand.
dennisintn

Yep yep yep!

[imnoangel]

ow haha thats quite a significant difference

[EURobert]

over here in holland smoking pot is called 'blowing'' or smoking a blow.
not taking coke.
hi all 

Just wanted to say that... It's sometimes as well is revered to as 'Een blowtje roken'. (= 'Smoking a blow.')

Remember there's this song of Bob Dylan: '... blowing in the wind ...' I always thought that was a hint to smoking pot as well?