Natalee Case Discussion #760 6/22 - 6/26/08

[hotping]

 BRYN, MARK JESQUIRE (Age 55)

Associated names:

 BRYN, JEAN 
 BRYN, MARK J ESQ
 BRYN, MARK JESQ
 BRYNN, MARK J
 MARK,  BRYN

Possible Employment / Business Associations:

 ADHAERO TECHNOLOGIES INC
 BB SPORTS INC Sporting Goods Stores and Bicycle Shops
 CHILD FOUNDATION INC Social Sciences and Humanities
 G GORDON LIDDY PRODUCTIONS INC
 ORTHOPAEDIC DEVELOPMENT LLC Land Subdividers and Developers, Except Cemeteries
 3 SPEED, INC
 ACCESS DEVELOPERS, INC
 AMERICA WHAT ARE WE, INC
 ARCHITECTURAL ART GLASS, INC
 BB SPORTS, INC  Offices At Pinecrest 7695 Southwest 104th St , MIAMI, FL 33156
Bay Harbor Dr  #4B, BAY HARBOR ISLANDS, FL 33154
Bay Harbor Dr , BAY HARBOR ISLANDS, FL 33154
Bay Harbor Dr  #413, BAY HARBOR ISLANDS, FL 33154
69th St  #8P, MIAMI, FL 33138
Bay Harbor Dr  #B4, BAY HARBOR ISLANDS, FL 33154
Treeline Ave , FORT MYERS, FL 33913
Biscayne Blvd  #2680, MIAMI, FL 33131
30th Ter , DORAL, FL 33122
48th St , MIAMI, FL 33155
Brickell Ave  #750, MIAMI, FL 33131
Brickell Ave  #415, MIAMI, FL 33131
Equine Ln , WELLINGTON, FL 33414
Brickell Ave  #1620, MIAMI, FL 33131
69th St , MIAMI, FL 33138
Brickell Ave  #2101, MIAMI, FL 33131
Brickell Ave  #21, MIAMI, FL 33131
Biscayne Blvd  #3599, MIAMI, FL 33131
69th St  #8P, MIAMI, FL 33138
Biscayne Blvd  #3599, MIAMI, FL 33131
Biscayne Blvd , MIAMI, FL 33131
Brickell Ave  #12, MIAMI, FL 33131
Bay Harbor Dr , BAY HARBOR ISLANDS, FL 33154
Biscayme Bv #3599, MIAMI, FL 33131
62nd St , MIAMI, FL 33138
Biscayne Bl #3599, MIAMI, FL 33131
Van Aken Blvd , CLEVELAND, OH 44120
Biscayne Tower #3599, MIAMI, FL 33131
Rivergate #750, MIAMI, FL 33131
C/O Irwin M Frost Brickell 1200, MIAMI, FL 33131   02/24/1953 374-0501
(305) 374-0501
(305) 663-3333
(305) 751-7381
(305) 864-6212  Possible Relatives:

MARKJBRYN, ESQUIRE
BRYN, KRISTINA BUTLER (Age 57)
BRYN, BUTLER K (Age 48)
BRYN, J
BRYN, KRISTINA L (Age 48)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

MANCINO, ALBERT E
DEERMINY, CARMEN
MARINI, RONALD ALBERT (Age 51)
PEREZBASHA, OMAIRA (Age 66)
CULVERHOUSE, HUGH FJRPAATTY (Age 89)
NUTTALL, SADELA
GILMAN, MARTIN B (Age 87)
BARBOUTH, ELSA E (Age 60)
FIELDS, MICHAEL
TORRES, ANTONIA (Age 55)
GOLDSTEIN, DAYNA B (Age 52)
DEPONTIS, GEORGE J (Age 62)
NUTTALL, JAMES S (Age 55)

[Lala'sMom]

For the record...I am still giving Jossy the benefit of the doubt with this company.  He has been very support of Natalee's family and without him they would have been lost in Aruba. He helped them when others would not. Having said that, being involved in the family business is still a possibility even if at a distance. My premise for asking about these businesses actually had more to do with Ernesto and not Jossy.  Things just took off from there. Sorry if I confused everyone.

[hotping]

I don't know if this is the same Mark J Bryn but the companies are interesting...

BRYN, MARK J

Possible Employment / Business Associations:

 ADHAERO TECHNOLOGIES, INC
 COMMUNICATION CONCEPTS & INVESTMENTS, INC
 CYAD CELLULAR DISTRIBUTORS, INC
 INTERNATIONAL DIALING SERVICES, INC  Park Of Commerce Blvd  #200, BOCA RATON, FL 33487
Park Of Commerce Blvd  #A-44, BOCA RATON, FL 33487         Possible Roommates / Associates:

LEVINSON, LAWRENCE 

[sirensong]

Yes, ALOT of interesting companies.  Check out the Child Foundation with Byrn and Greenburg. 

http://www.corporationwiki.com/Florida/Miami/Jeffrey-M-Greenberg-p457177.aspx

Jeffrey M. Greenberg
Record Map Web Jeffrey M. Greenberg


10840 SW 113th Pl
Miami, FL 33176
Miami-Dade County
70 Companies at this address   

Jeffrey M. Greenberg
10840 SW 113th Pl
Miami, FL 33176
Miami-Dade County   

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Mark J. Bryn Child Foundation, Inc. Miami FL
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Registered AgentCompany Company Status City State
Chicken Strips Properties, LLC Active Miami Florida
Today Intermedia, LLC Active Miami Florida
1370 Venetian, LLC Active Miami Florida
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[sirensong]

http://www.corporationwiki.com/Search.aspx?keywords=Jossy+Mansur

More info?  I am checking through it.  I am surprised to find alot of these names, Greenburg, Mansur and a few others also trace to something in Chicago.  Interesting stuff, but kinda scary too.  Something bigger than me going on here.

[Maggie]

When Natalee first disappeared, I remember a broadcast that stated someone was following a car with Natalee in it. I think I remember it was a reporter, and it was a live broadcast. Does anyone else remember this?  If true, was this the car that was following De-pox?

[IBE]

When Natalee first disappeared, I remember a broadcast that stated someone was following a car with Natalee in it. I think I remember it was a reporter, and it was a live broadcast. Does anyone else remember this?  If true, was this the car that was following De-pox?

Yes, if my memory is correct it was Jossy, very early on, right just when media coverage was beginning, saying that something was developing previously and ongoing and his reporter was tailing the car. I gathered from Jossy's stance, workding, eyes, he felt it was important.

then poof we heard nothing... perhaps from the media not following up for things were fast and fury then or maybe the reporter was following the Gardener or the car known to be following Depak et all.

I had the gut feeling it was followed through, important info found and either lost by the ALE or kept my Jossy for more leads or nice info to have, either was.

[MumInOhio]

http://www.corporationwiki.com/Search.aspx?keywords=Jossy+Mansur

More info?  I am checking through it.  I am surprised to find alot of these names, Greenburg, Mansur and a few others also trace to something in Chicago.  Interesting stuff, but kinda scary too.  Something bigger than me going on here.

Thanks Sirensong....Chicago - I wonder if we can make any connection to Michael Posner?....

Been checking on E. Barry Mansur...he is the father of Austin, another associate/relative of Damilice, and his associates.

Anyone have Michael Posner's full name and any other aliases?  TIA

[Observer]

When Natalee first disappeared, I remember a broadcast that stated someone was following a car with Natalee in it. I think I remember it was a reporter, and it was a live broadcast. Does anyone else remember this?  If true, was this the car that was following De-pox?

Good Morning

That was a reporter by the name of Hubert Tiel who works for Diario.

[SS]

For the record...I am still giving Jossy the benefit of the doubt with this company.  He has been very support of Natalee's family and without him they would have been lost in Aruba. He helped them when others would not. Having said that, being involved in the family business is still a possibility even if at a distance. My premise for asking about these businesses actually had more to do with Ernesto and not Jossy.  Things just took off from there. Sorry if I confused everyone.

I wonder if JM has a role that would be like Godfather of the island and he is the one who keeps peace among all  of the various groups and businesses.  Even though I suspect him as Dirty Hand, I still recognize that he was helpful to Beth and Dave.  Dirty Hand wasn't at the event, he just knows about it and holds a key.

[Observer]

Murder Victims' Mothers Give To Those Who Helped



AURORA, Colo. (CBS4) ― The mothers of two murder victims in Colorado are giving back to those who gave them justice.

District attorneys, police and lawmakers turned out for the third annual Javad Marshall-Fields and Vivian Wolfe Community Awards Celebration.

The couple was killed just days before Marshall-Fields was to testify in a murder trial. The killer, Sir Mario Owens, was sentenced to death Monday.

The victims' mothers held a ceremony Friday night in honor of those who helped them through the three month trial including Jeanne Smith, who serves as executive director of the Witness Protection Board for Colorado.

"When I see the families and all you've been through and what you are able to accomplish, I feel very insignificant," Smith said.

Beth Holloway, whose daughter Natalee has been missing in Aruba, was the guest speaker. She also received an award.

Holloway says her life is changed forever by the two Colorado moms, all giving each other support.

http://cbs4denver.com/local/javad.marshall.fields.2.754321.html

[SS]

When Natalee first disappeared, I remember a broadcast that stated someone was following a car with Natalee in it. I think I remember it was a reporter, and it was a live broadcast. Does anyone else remember this?  If true, was this the car that was following De-pox?

Good Morning

That was a reporter by the name of Hubert Tiel who works for Diario.

Good Morning *******,

Does anyone remember what the explanation for that was?  How could something like that event just vanish from existance?  Does anyone know where the reporter is now?

[Observer]

When Natalee first disappeared, I remember a broadcast that stated someone was following a car with Natalee in it. I think I remember it was a reporter, and it was a live broadcast. Does anyone else remember this?  If true, was this the car that was following De-pox?

Good Morning

That was a reporter by the name of Hubert Tiel who works for Diario.

Good Morning *******,

Does anyone remember what the explanation for that was?  How could something like that event just vanish from existance?  Does anyone know where the reporter is now?

No explanation and he still works for Diario.

[johan555]

Aruba behind with payments coastguard21 Jun, 2008, 17:18 (GMT -04:00)

 WILLEMSTAD/DEN HAAG – Aruba still has to pay the Netherlands 7.9 million guilders in coastguard payment arrears for the period of 1999-2002. The Netherlands has also not received the payments for 2007 yet, while the bill was sent early this year.

Defence-minister Eimert van Middelkoop (ChristenUnie) says that as answer on questions asked by the standing committees for Defence and for the Neth.Antillean- and Aruban Affairs. The committees say that the Neth.Antilles canceled all their payments for the coastguard.

Middelkoop writes that the coastguard is going to aim more for the control of human trafficking and illegal migration. The ministers of Justice of the three countries of the Kingdom have ordered that as part of judicial priorities for the coastguard. They did this because the Leeward- as well as the Windward Islands are being used as stepping stone for human trafficking purposes. Besides, the human trafficking was also mentioned in the recent report of the Scientific Research and Documentation Centre on Organized Crime and the Maintenance of Law and Order on St. Maarten.

In his letter to the Lower House, Minister Van Middelkoop also goes into the developments of the cross-border transportation of drugs to or from the Antilles. He says that there is an impression that qua method as well as route, the transporters of drugs use other routes than before. This is derived from among others the decrease in the number of drugs confiscated and the use of other vessels that the go-fasts, like regular fishermen boats and container ships.

ON the question which means the coastguard will use to set forth and intensify the cooperation process with France regarding the placing of radars on St. Maarten, Van Middelkoop reminds that a decision-making must first take place in the Minister Council for the Kingdom. “Possibilities to more operational cooperation with France, for example like placing some radar stations on the French part of St. Maarten and exchanging of information, will be considered.” The Netherlands brought the possibilities for cooperation in the field of people control and border traffic on St. Maarten to the attention of the French authorities in Paris during the bilateral judicial deliberation. “The good operational contacts between the coastguard and the French maintenance of law and order services in St. Maarten can be helpful as part of implementation questions”, said the minister.
 
 

[klaasend]

Just tried to go to BFN and got the GODADDY website:

blogsfornatalee.com


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[klaasend]

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[SS]

I feel like I need to say something, and I realize that it's not going to be popular with some of the monkeys.  But, I still need to say it because it is reality.

The Mansur family has been involved with drugs, money laundering, and gambling in the Caribbean for many years. The family is fabulously wealthy and they have all benefited from things that the dirty money has provided.  At this point, the family owns 60% of Aruba.  Some Mansurs do seem to have legitimate businesses, but the big family money and power has come from a very dark place.  JM and his relatives know where their money has come from and they are not saints.

The reason we are gathered on this forum is to seek Justice for a high school senior who disappeared on Aruba, but how many high school seniors here in America have overdosed on heroin or cocaine that has been smuggled into the US by members of the Mansur family?  There is nothing more tragic than the funeral of a promising young person who has overdosed on recreational drugs at a party. 

I do appreciate that Jossy has helped Beth and Dave, but this doesn't exonerate him or his family from the bigger picture.  Dirty Hand or not, JM knows exactly what happened that night because he is the most powerful man on that island and it's his business to know what happened that night. He has chosen not to reveal the information although he most likely has great sympathy for Beth and Dave.  I am also not aware of any Mansur money being spent for drug clinics or drug prevention programs.  We can certainly be appreciative of the small tokens that come our way, but let's not forget the bigger picture.

[Rob]

I feel like I need to say something, and I realize that it's not going to be popular with some of the monkeys.  But, I still need to say it because it is reality.

The Mansur family has been involved with drugs, money laundering, and gambling in the Caribbean for many years. The family is fabulously wealthy and they have all benefited from things that the dirty money has provided.  At this point, the family owns 60% of Aruba.  Some Mansurs do seem to have legitimate businesses, but the big family money and power has come from a very dark place.  JM and his relatives know where their money has come from and they are not saints.

The reason we are gathered on this forum is to seek Justice for a high school senior who disappeared on Aruba, but how many high school seniors here in America have overdosed on heroin or cocaine that has been smuggled into the US by members of the Mansur family?  There is nothing more tragic than the funeral of a promising young person who has overdosed on recreational drugs at a party. 

I do appreciate that Jossy has helped Beth and Dave, but this doesn't exonerate him or his family from the bigger picture.  Dirty Hand or not, JM knows exactly what happened that night because he is the most powerful man on that island and it's his business to know what happened that night. He has chosen not to reveal the information although he most likely has great sympathy for Beth and Dave.  I am also not aware of any Mansur money being spent for drug clinics or drug prevention programs.  We can certainly be appreciative of the small tokens that come our way, but let's not forget the bigger picture.

very well said SS and I agree 110%

great post!!!

[Destiny]

I can't find any info on Atlantic Entertainment, Inc. in Miami, and I know they are now "inactive".

The only Atlantic Entertainment, Inc. I can find in the US is as follows:

Atlantic Entertainment Inc
201-944-0114

335 E Brinkerhoff Ave
Palisades Park, NJ 7650

Categories: Adult Entertainment
 

If it is confirmed that Atlantic Entertainment, Inc. in Miami who lists director as Jossy Mansur was actually Jossy Mansur of Aruba, even though it is inactive as a company, there would be a connection through the same incorporating attorney, Mark J. Bryn, as BangBros, LLC,  Jeffery Greenberg. 

Perhaps Rob can confirm with Grande whether or not the Jossy Mansur connected to Atlantic Entertainment, Inc. in Miami, is in fact Jossy Mansur of Aruba.

 

hmmmmmmmmmm...NJ USA....isn't that where Daury got busted....just thinking out loud here Monkeys....

Destiny

[Destiny]

Just tried to go to BFN and got the GODADDY website:

blogsfornatalee.com


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