Natalee Case Discussion #760 6/22 - 6/26/08

[Dayhiker]

Parliamentary investigation
PVV'er Hero Brinkman recently brought the note 'The West Indies - Mafia within the Kingdom' with 170 cases of alleged corruption, which he mainly from the Antillean media had met.
 

The Mafia? Say it ain't so! It appears Hero has turned over some rocks. About time somebody did.

[caesu]

Parliamentary investigation
PVV'er Hero Brinkman recently brought the note 'The West Indies - Mafia within the Kingdom' with 170 cases of alleged corruption, which he mainly from the Antillean media had met.
 

The Mafia? Say it ain't so! It appears Hero has turned over some rocks. About time somebody did.

the majority of the parliament didn't support the motion of Brinkman to start an inquiry into the corruption.

but now Bijleveld - state secretary for kingdom affairs, she works for the minister of interior, says Brinkman is right.
interesting to see how this develops.

Bijleveld is from the same political party as the prime minister (Balkenende) and the justice minister (Ballin).

[Lala'sMom]

at least on St. Maarten they are doing something.
all top officials of the police force behind bars. imagine that for a second!! 

might be a good idea to do same thing on Aruba.
but with Rudy Croes in power that won't happen.

They can start by dragging Jan van der Straten's lame butt back to Aruba from Bonnaire and bring Karin Jannsen back from Holland. Put this pair on trial for all to see how crooked they are.

She added that currently all the top officials of the Police Force were behind bars. The positive part about the situation is that people have been caught, the article quoted the State Secretary as saying.

So who is watching them?   

[Lala'sMom]

Parliamentary investigation
PVV'er Hero Brinkman recently brought the note 'The West Indies - Mafia within the Kingdom' with 170 cases of alleged corruption, which he mainly from the Antillean media had met.
 

The Mafia? Say it ain't so! It appears Hero has turned over some rocks. About time somebody did.

the majority of the parliament didn't support the motion of Brinkman to start an inquiry into the corruption.

but now Bijleveld - state secretary for kingdom affairs, she works for the minister of interior, says Brinkman is right.
interesting to see how this develops.

Bijleveld is from the same political party as the prime minister (Balkenende) and the justice minister (Ballin).

I don't want to rain on anyone's parade here...but.  The corruption is way too deep for this to actually be brought forth. I doubt much will happen.  All these political people are in it for the power...it's been that way for centuries. Even in our own gov't the power struggles have always led to corruption that the other side is powerless to do any more than lip service to.  I hope you are right.  One person is all it takes, but to succeed you need a group for safety.

[GBMW]

Did any other Dutch poster just saw the news on SBS6?

I only saw the end of a quote from Peter R. de Vries....about Joran being in Thailand. "He should enjoy it while he can because there might come a different time for Joran van der Sloot" (said with sarcasm)....then the reporter asks "Are you convinced of this?" He says: "Yes."

I've missed the beginning of this report...has anyone seen the rest?

[carpe noctem]

Did any other Dutch poster just saw the news on SBS6?

I only saw the end of a quote from Peter R. de Vries....about Joran being in Thailand. "He should enjoy it while he can because there might come a different time for Joran van der Sloot" (said with sarcasm)....then the reporter asks "Are you convinced of this?" He says: "Yes."

I've missed the beginning of this report...has anyone seen the rest?

Thanks for the report, GBMW!

[klaasend]

Did any other Dutch poster just saw the news on SBS6?

I only saw the end of a quote from Peter R. de Vries....about Joran being in Thailand. "He should enjoy it while he can because there might come a different time for Joran van der Sloot" (said with sarcasm)....then the reporter asks "Are you convinced of this?" He says: "Yes."

I've missed the beginning of this report...has anyone seen the rest?

Would be nice but I won't hold my breath 

[Lala'sMom]

Did any other Dutch poster just saw the news on SBS6?

I only saw the end of a quote from Peter R. de Vries....about Joran being in Thailand. "He should enjoy it while he can because there might come a different time for Joran van der Sloot" (said with sarcasm)....then the reporter asks "Are you convinced of this?" He says: "Yes."

I've missed the beginning of this report...has anyone seen the rest?

We can hope. 

[johan555]

Did any other Dutch poster just saw the news on SBS6?

no !

[caesu]

Did any other Dutch poster just saw the news on SBS6?

I only saw the end of a quote from Peter R. de Vries....about Joran being in Thailand. "He should enjoy it while he can because there might come a different time for Joran van der Sloot" (said with sarcasm)....then the reporter asks "Are you convinced of this?" He says: "Yes."

I've missed the beginning of this report...has anyone seen the rest?

http://www.hartvannederland.nl/item/10075/Boekpresentatie_Patrick_van_der_Eem

book presentation Patrick van der Eem. with introduction Peter R. de Vries.

[johan555]

http://www.hartvannederland.nl/item/10075/Boekpresentatie_Patrick_van_der_Eem

Peter r de vries

[johan555]

ha ha  caesu  you was faster 

[GBMW]

Thanks!

I've heard from a friend there was an item with Patrick, a live from reporter & then an interview with Peter followed by another stand upper by the reporter.

I'll check the SBS site....maybe they've got more there later on.

[johan555]

for me that book is not so important

[johan555]

by John van den Heuvel and Bert Cottage

ORANJESTAD - The public prosecutor in Aruba yesterday with horror has taken note of the statements made by Patrick van der Eem on cocaine. Hoofdofficier Prosecutor mr Hans Mos: "Van der Eem has raised the matter himself and no fun."

The infiltrator known his drug use in a call to his own book about these undercover to promote. He suggested during all stages having used cocaine. "I felt that he thought: Ho breeding, it is not a policeman? And when I started to sniffing for his nose. Every day. Therefore, the doubts about him," said van der Eem yesterday in the Volkskrant. Van der Eem admits that he himself was addicted. Also verleidde he Joran van der Sloot. "Joran did gesnoven agree with me." And: "In the beginning I also once smoked crack on his nose. Joran then lifting, but was panicky."
Sympathy

The confession of Van der Eem is painful, because after the broadcast of the tapes Joran could count on great sympathy. In his residence after he was originally broadcast as a hero won because of his commitment to the disappearance to solve.

With the rulings he also opens the attack on Peter R. de Vries, who guided the operation and expenses paid him 20,000 euros. Van der Eem accuses De Vries sure that they have the 'drugsbeelden' deleted from the recorded material, and the immediate material sold to the U.S. broadcaster ABC. "Peter R. de Vries has images from the raw material cut and against ABC said: this is everything. In order to protect me - even though I had not asked." Whether Van der Eem this time the truth is unclear. Even at this newspaper he lied repeatedly.

Peter R. de Vries said yesterday the allegations of Van der Eem nonsense. "I knew that Patrick used cocaine, but that has never happened under our direction. We have Patrick van der Eem not selected because he did so reliable. Not even, but he had that contact with Joran. There is also pertinent non - ties tampered with. "

Van der Eem told in his promotiepraatje that his scar on his face is the result of a dispute over drugs. Previously he lied that this was the result of an automobile accident, even against this newspaper. The culprit, he would later have aangereden knowingly and with a honkbalknuppel had edited. The public prosecutor in Aruba received by Peter R. de Vries the raw footage of the undercover, but suggests that this was not enough to arrest him. Hans Mos says still not all the material of De Vries had been received. According to the crime reporter, it is actually images and sounds of private conversations of Van der Eem. "We do not believe we need to make available," said De Vries.

According to Hans Mos is the behaviour of Van der Eem not mean that a criminal case against Van der Sloot now on the job. "Should we have additional evidence and sue him, then the court must decide whether everything has gone according to the rules."

[Tamikosmom]

by John van den Heuvel and Bert Cottage

ORANJESTAD - The public prosecutor in Aruba yesterday with horror has taken note of the statements made by Patrick van der Eem on cocaine. Hoofdofficier Prosecutor mr Hans Mos: "Van der Eem has raised the matter himself and no fun."

The infiltrator known his drug use in a call to his own book about these undercover to promote. He suggested during all stages having used cocaine. "I felt that he thought: Ho breeding, it is not a policeman? And when I started to sniffing for his nose. Every day. Therefore, the doubts about him," said van der Eem yesterday in the Volkskrant. Van der Eem admits that he himself was addicted. Also verleidde he Joran van der Sloot. "Joran did gesnoven agree with me." And: "In the beginning I also once smoked crack on his nose. Joran then lifting, but was panicky."
Sympathy

The confession of Van der Eem is painful, because after the broadcast of the tapes Joran could count on great sympathy. In his residence after he was originally broadcast as a hero won because of his commitment to the disappearance to solve.

With the rulings he also opens the attack on Peter R. de Vries, who guided the operation and expenses paid him 20,000 euros. Van der Eem accuses De Vries sure that they have the 'drugsbeelden' deleted from the recorded material, and the immediate material sold to the U.S. broadcaster ABC. "Peter R. de Vries has images from the raw material cut and against ABC said: this is everything. In order to protect me - even though I had not asked." Whether Van der Eem this time the truth is unclear. Even at this newspaper he lied repeatedly.

Peter R. de Vries said yesterday the allegations of Van der Eem nonsense. "I knew that Patrick used cocaine, but that has never happened under our direction. We have Patrick van der Eem not selected because he did so reliable. Not even, but he had that contact with Joran. There is also pertinent non - ties tampered with. "

Van der Eem told in his promotiepraatje that his scar on his face is the result of a dispute over drugs. Previously he lied that this was the result of an automobile accident, even against this newspaper. The culprit, he would later have aangereden knowingly and with a honkbalknuppel had edited. The public prosecutor in Aruba received by Peter R. de Vries the raw footage of the undercover, but suggests that this was not enough to arrest him. Hans Mos says still not all the material of De Vries had been received. According to the crime reporter, it is actually images and sounds of private conversations of Van der Eem. "We do not believe we need to make available," said De Vries.

According to Hans Mos is the behaviour of Van der Eem not mean that a criminal case against Van der Sloot now on the job. "Should we have additional evidence and sue him, then the court must decide whether everything has gone according to the rules."

 

Thank you johan.

Janet

[GBMW]

for me that book is not so important

What Joran said is important 

[Peaches]

Did Joran write a second book?

Any news on the expose or Anita book? 

I say the more books the better -- bring 'em on!!! The more they write -- the more we catch their lies and contradictions. Let's get them ALL on record.
[/quote]

amen to that.  they can never remember the lies they've told before and they're all covering their own butts with what they're writing now.  let renfro, paulus and anita add to the garbage dump gielen and jvds have all ready put out and then we'll see them all choke to death trying to alibi the differences. i can hardly wait.
dennisintn
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Absolutely!  Keep on talking!  Just makes the lies easier to spot.  Somebody's bound to slip up.

[LilPuma]

Re:  Patrick and cocaine

Pulllleeeeeaaze!  Law enforcement agencies around the globe use informants who are often low-level criminals in order to get those higher up in the criminal food chain.  Why people are acting as though this somehow diminishes what Joran said to Patrick is beyond me.  They can't even question Joran based on his confession of murder, yet there's a big uproar over Patrick admitting he used cocaine.  Someone please hand me the barf bag. 
 

[Observer]

for me that book is not so important

What Joran said is important 

Richardson went on record saying there was more incriminating recordings that were never released to the media. Why haven't they released all the evidence to the OM? Just does not make sense to me    Are we supposed to buy Patricks book to see what else there is? Normally in Murder cases the evidence goes to the Prosecuters and not Tv shows and books