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« Reply #720 on: June 25, 2008, 03:16:51 PM »

Agreed on that, Johan...

They have plenty to put him in jail until he has a nervous breakdown. RIGHT NOW!


They are playing with themselves.

There must be more then only Joran !
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« Reply #721 on: June 25, 2008, 03:19:50 PM »

Do you mean more perpetrators?
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« Reply #722 on: June 25, 2008, 03:22:54 PM »

yes 2 or 3
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« Reply #723 on: June 25, 2008, 03:23:58 PM »

SHHH!!!  Everyone straighten up...Klaas is back.

um....Klaas they were good, they behaved like angels...er...monkeys...er...good monkeys. 



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« Reply #724 on: June 25, 2008, 03:24:06 PM »

Posted 13. June 2005
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Tourists come in masses to Aruba! Aruba is already 2 weeks free propaganda of the international media

From observation of the taxi drivers at the airport last weekend shows that more than 4000 tourists arrived in 3 days. This surpasses all expectations. Despite negative media reports about Aruba thinks the Americans otherwise. Most tourists arrived'd like Carlos n 'Charlie's and the California Lighthouse visits by the taxi drivers.
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« Reply #725 on: June 25, 2008, 03:25:07 PM »

Is Rob here?  I need map help.
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« Reply #726 on: June 25, 2008, 03:25:57 PM »

Did any other Dutch poster just saw the news on SBS6?

I only saw the end of a quote from Peter R. de Vries....about Joran being in Thailand. "He should enjoy it while he can because there might come a different time for Joran van der Sloot" (said with sarcasm)....then the reporter asks "Are you convinced of this?" He says: "Yes."

I've missed the beginning of this report...has anyone seen the rest?


I love it when Peter Devries talks dirty.  Thanks GBMW!
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« Reply #727 on: June 25, 2008, 03:27:26 PM »

With all due respect, Johan...


They should have Joran, the Kalpoes, Paulus Van der sloot

and yes... even Steve Croes behind bars for as long as they

possibly can, until a story comes together.

They are playing with themselves. They arrested and held the two

security guards on NOTHING.

NOT ONE STITCH of evidence!

They make the rules up as they go along. Different rules for different people.


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« Reply #728 on: June 25, 2008, 03:29:27 PM »

Re:  Patrick and cocaine

Pulllleeeeeaaze!  Law enforcement agencies around the globe use informants who are often low-level criminals in order to get those higher up in the criminal food chain.  Why people are acting as though this somehow diminishes what Joran said to Patrick is beyond me.  They can't even question Joran based on his confession of murder, yet there's a big uproar over Patrick admitting he used cocaine.  Someone please hand me the barf bag. 
 




Ain't that the damn truth! If they'd quit making excuses for doing their job they might get the job done!!!
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« Reply #729 on: June 25, 2008, 03:30:49 PM »

Posted 14. June 2005 06:34 AM
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The lawyer of one of the guards released, Chris Lejuez, according to the Algemeen Dagblad declared that Van der S.have said in his cell   that he took Holloway (18) into his house and saw her  there for the  last time . According to Van der S. He then remained at home, while the Surinamese brothers  brought  her to her hotel.
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« Reply #730 on: June 25, 2008, 03:31:30 PM »

With all due respect, Johan...


They should have Joran, the Kalpoes, Paulus Van der sloot

and yes... even Steve Croes behind bars for as long as they

possibly can, until a story comes together.

They are playing with themselves. They arrested and held the two

security guards on NOTHING.

NOT ONE STITCH of evidence!

They make the rules up as they go along. Different rules for different people.



Also helps when you have interrogators who follow up with hard questions. Looking over the Aruba Police statements it's very clear they didn't want to get the truth out of any of them.
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« Reply #731 on: June 25, 2008, 03:33:23 PM »

Re:  Patrick and cocaine

Pulllleeeeeaaze!  Law enforcement agencies around the globe use informants who are often low-level criminals in order to get those higher up in the criminal food chain.  Why people are acting as though this somehow diminishes what Joran said to Patrick is beyond me.  They can't even question Joran based on his confession of murder, yet there's a big uproar over Patrick admitting he used cocaine.  Someone please hand me the barf bag. 
 



I agree.  It's stupid and naive to think that someone who is in a position to be a confidential informant or mole has a squeaky clean background.  Just doesn't happen. 


They treat the people on their side like pariahs and treat the guilty ones like guests.
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« Reply #732 on: June 25, 2008, 03:34:22 PM »

Destiny
I have info I would like them to see...please email me cindoal@yahoo.com

Thanks a bunch!!

Lala's...check your banana basket... Wink

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« Reply #733 on: June 25, 2008, 03:36:18 PM »

Posted 14. June 2005 06:34 AM
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The lawyer of one of the guards released, Chris Lejuez, according to the Algemeen Dagblad declared that Van der S.have said in his cell   that he took Holloway (18) into his house and saw her  there for the  last time . According to Van der S. He then remained at home, while the Surinamese brothers  brought  her to her hotel.

Well, we known now that did not happen.
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« Reply #734 on: June 25, 2008, 03:36:37 PM »

...and that lame phrase...

the bar keeps getting higher and higher to arrest them everytime...


is really just code speak to let you know the corruption is getting

worse and worse.


They are full of it! They could have them all in jail this afternoon if they

wanted to.

You said it Carpe!  I'm tired of the OM BS too!

Like the BS about how wiretapping in an investigation is not legal.......except sometimes.



Xactly Helen, they make up the laws as they go along and have been since day one. Mos is just like the rest of them, no better. In fact he acts like more of a chickenshit than Jannsen did.
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« Reply #735 on: June 25, 2008, 03:45:43 PM »

Julia Renfro posted letters on several forums in 2005   how safe Aruba is 

who is the writer  ? Julia  

Dear Ms. Renfro
My husband and I have been to Aruba the past two years, although we haven’t traveled extensively,
we did alot of research before choosing Aruba for our vacations the past two years. We fell in
love with Aruba and it’s people!

We are saddened by the stories we have heard and read from
the American press eluding to Aruba being an unsafe island where drugs and prostitution run
rampant and it is unsafe for people to visit. Have these people ever been to Aruba??? We can’t
understand where they are coming from, that is certainly not the Aruba we have spent time in.

We toured the entire island on our own and never felt unsafe, were never harassed or anything.
Our hearts go out to the family of Natalee Holloway and to the Aruba people as they are very
saddened by this we know.

The people of Aruba have given up their time and have prayed
endlessly for Natalee and her family and should be commended for this.

I am sure this is an isolated incident and we will return to Aruba as soon as possible and encourage
others to do the same.

Sincerely,

Daphne & Rob Michigan USA

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Dear Ms. Renfro,

I wanted to write and let you know that Natalee, her family, and the people of Aruba are in our
prayers.

We have been coming to Aruba for five years, and will be returning again for three weeks in the
fall to celebrate our 26th wedding anniversary. We would not think of going anywhere else. We
have always felt safe, both in the daytime and in the evening.

The people on your beautiful island have always gone out of their way to assist us in every way
possible when we visit. It is so nice to know that, although some things change each year when
we are in Aruba, the friendliness of the Aruban people has never changed.

There are many of us who feel Aruba has been misrepresented by the news networks. Every
chance we have, we spread the word about the best vacation place in the Caribbean - Aruba!
Counting the days till our vacation,

Wanda and Bob Laidacker
Maryland

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Dear Aruban friends: Please accept this letter as a thank you “MASHA
DANKI” for all you have done and continue to do for the “Missing Girl
Case” Ms. Natalee Holloway. Our prayers are with her and her family for
Natalee’s Safe Return.

Also please accept our “Most Sincere Apology” for any negative news that
was reported. Please know that the mayority of the American People that
have visited Aruba will continue to return to the island and are also very
upset the way some stories are told.

We have been coming to Aruba for 13 years and we have found “ARUBA”
to be the “SAFEST PLACE ON THIS EARTH”. What makes Aruba most
beautiful is “It’s People”.

You have made us feel at home. Always polite always willing to help.
Always greeting us with a smile and welcoming us back. So many times
our car has broken down and every time someone stopped and helped us,
even late at night.

Anytime we went to the Nightclubs the security guards always kept an eye
(since we are girls) to make sure that no one was bothering us. They
always made sure we got to our car safe.

People have to realize that everyone must exercise caution no matter
where they are, in the USA, in Aruba or anywhere in the world. Especially
young girls, they must be extra extra careful. So many bad things happen
here in the USA, so they should continue to be careful when they travel
abroad.

Since we are girls and we do enjoy going to the nightclubs dancing, while
in Aruba; we can testify that we have seen many American kids and some
adults behave badly. Many of them get trashed and look for drugs and
cause trouble. We won’t go into details because we do not want to offend
anyone.

The reason why we are coming forward with this information is because
we want to avoid future problems such as the disappearance of Ms.
Natalee Holloway. In order to fix the problem we must face reality and
try to do better for next time so that “THERE IS NO NEXT TIME”.

At this point no one seems to know what happened to Ms Natalee and we
are all praying for her safe return.

Here are some tips to follow when traveling abroad: (*) Use the same
caution that you would at home when you go away abroad. (*) Parents
please speak to your children about being careful when going out. (*)
Friends do keep an eye on each other. (*) Try to go out in groups and try
to have a least one person sober.

These are just a few common sense pointers to follow. Also for the
record, we would like to add, that since we have been going to Aruba no
one has ever asked us if we wanted to buy drugs or give us drugs. We
always see the tourists go up to the locals asking for drugs, or where they
can buy some.

We feel for Ms. Natalee’s family because we had a similar situation
happen to us. We took a few high school graduates with us to Aruba. As
you can imagine they went wild.

Unfortunately, one night it took us 3 hours before we could find them and
they were the longest three hours of our lives. We were lucky that they
turned up. One was so intoxicated that we did not know if she was going
to make it. Luckily she did.

Our prayers remain with Ms. Natalee Holloway and her family. Again,
Aruba masha danki! May God help us find Natalee safe. Let’s all be safe
no matter where in the world.

Maria and Marcella Albanese Boston, MA

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Wednesday, June 15, 2005

To Julie and my Aruban Family;

It is with my heartfelt greetings that I address the newspaper
community and the Aruban people today. I would like to
comment and apologize for the relentless pursuit of the USA
media in the Natalee Holloway case. We are all praying for
her safe return, but until that happens, let me say that is has
saddened me to see the way the USA press has been badgering
the island for information and giving opinions on a legal
system they haven’t even begun to educate themselves too.

I moved to Aruba in 1993 as I married an Aruban (who has since
passed from cancer) and I came to understand in my 6 years
of living in Aruba, that although alot of things were different
from the USA, Aruba ran very efficiently and smoothly.

I figured I was coming from the USA to a tiny island that could
use my help. I was so wrong, Arubans are highly educated
and methodical in their ways.

It hurts me when I read or hear
reporters saying the Aruban officials are botching the case.
It’s so easy to sit in a chair and second guess anyone’s
investigation. Let us remember this is a country that we do
not control and let’s let the Aruban officials handle this case
with the FBI.

I am confidant that my home away from home
will resolve this matter, if we only give them a chance to do so.

I worked for the U.S. Immigration/Customs Department at
the Queen Beatrix Airport for 4 of my years on the island,
yes we confiscated drugs there, but not to the degree that
the American press would like everyone to believe.

Aruba
is, and will remain an exceptionally safe island even
after this unfortunate case plays out. I will be moving
back to Aruba once I retire and two of the reasons for that
are it’s safety and warmth of the Arubian people. It is
unmatched anywheres else in the world in my opinion.

Claudia A. Willemsberg
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« Reply #736 on: June 25, 2008, 03:45:45 PM »



Not sure this is a normal case though.....   
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« Reply #737 on: June 25, 2008, 03:48:27 PM »

 


Hans Mos,

Did you receive the telescope I sent to you to find your little pair of ballies,

the other day? It is a dandy! On a clear day it's possible to view Uranus

with it.


We need to start calling you "Galileo!"
  Sheeeeesh you're a loser, dude!
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« Reply #738 on: June 25, 2008, 03:52:16 PM »

I moved to Aruba in 1993 as I married an Aruban (who has since
passed from cancer)



He died to get away from you, Julia! It was his only way out.
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« Reply #739 on: June 25, 2008, 03:53:30 PM »

I moved to Aruba in 1993 as I married an Aruban (who has since
passed from cancer)



He died to get away from you, Julia! It was his only way out.


oopsie!!!!   
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