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« Reply #860 on: June 26, 2008, 12:30:11 AM »

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« Reply #861 on: June 26, 2008, 12:37:54 AM »

I believe this is from his old Zorpia site:

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« Reply #862 on: June 26, 2008, 12:43:41 AM »

SS - that's not Feddy, it doesn't look at all like him IMO
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« Reply #863 on: June 26, 2008, 12:47:50 AM »

*******...Nanner Basket Wink

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« Reply #864 on: June 26, 2008, 12:48:39 AM »

November 2006 - Freddy on the right at CnC:

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« Reply #865 on: June 26, 2008, 12:51:35 AM »

KLAAS...hot nanners....
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« Reply #866 on: June 26, 2008, 12:54:50 AM »

KLAAS...hot nanners....

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« Reply #867 on: June 26, 2008, 12:58:37 AM »

SS - that's not Feddy, it doesn't look at all like him IMO




I think you're right, but I wanted to bounce it off of everyone before I eliminated him.
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« Reply #868 on: June 26, 2008, 01:01:32 AM »

Interesting name for this night club. Is it a brand new club? That lady in this picture looks a lot like Angela Reppas(Sp) MO

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« Reply #869 on: June 26, 2008, 01:09:35 AM »

SS - that's not Feddy, it doesn't look at all like him IMO




I think you're right, but I wanted to bounce it off of everyone before I eliminated him.

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« Reply #870 on: June 26, 2008, 01:10:57 AM »

Interesting name for this night club. Is it a brand new club? That lady in this picture looks a lot like Angela Reppas(Sp) MO

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« Reply #872 on: June 26, 2008, 01:17:15 AM »

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« Reply #873 on: June 26, 2008, 01:21:18 AM »

GOODNIGHT ALL!



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Funny thing, last week I sent KG a friend request and he declined.  Do ya think he went thru my friends and found my friend "Help Find Natalee"?    I guess that would be a turn off for him huh?
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« Reply #875 on: June 26, 2008, 03:53:30 AM »

Research into criminal past Patrick
The Daily Press was the first medium that searched  the backgrounds of Patrick van der Eem . The Press spoke in Spanish Marbella with his father Leon van der Eem, a former franchiseer with nine branches of the hamburger keten McDonald's, who confirmed that his son has a criminal past. Leon van der Eem was as director of importing "Aruba Liquor" - among other importer of Budweiser beer - a business contact of the controversial Aruban Jossy Mansur. This Mansur, who for many years a local trustee of the Holloway family, the father of Patrick van der Eem helped financially to the McDonald's branches in Duiven and Animals to launch it.
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« Reply #876 on: June 26, 2008, 03:58:25 AM »

 Patric house

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« Reply #877 on: June 26, 2008, 04:29:05 AM »

The dirty past  of Patrick van der Eem


The past of The Dutch Scarface. "He drew people are criminal world
within, in the same way as he has done with Joran. With much talk, with many
Show. "
In the  Arnhem Zuid they will Patrick van der Eem not fast
forget. "When Patrick was a year or twelve, he came with us on the floor," says
a former neighbor. "We had a Commodore 64 and Patrick played there together
with my son. Then you could already see that it is an impatient person. If they are in a
what higher level and he did not understand immediately, he became irritated and then held
it soon for Patrick. Later my son said: pap, I would no longer play with Patrick.
Whatever the precise cause was, I did not know exactly. But that Patrick a very different way
was over, we were clear. All young he went on the wrong path.
Patrick had an own will and was not meeloper, so I assume that he himself
criminal existence had chosen. "
We find ourselves at the Bergumlaan in the district Holthuizen. A small villa with
neat, mostly older residents. There giert a piercing wind through the streets. A Mr.
makes a detour. "Oh, you come entirely from Amsterdam? Jaahh, the Van der Eems
we still here. "Over 5 house, he says, lived from about 1984 to 1994
Van der Eem the family. Father Leo, mother Carla and their sons Perry (1971) and Patrick
(1973). The spacious villa is distinguished from the rest by the underground garage.
The family was neergestreken from the Antilles, where Leo van der Eem fortune had made.
From the Arnhemse began Van der Eem (born on May 7, 1945 in Bloemendaal)
november 1985 on a franchise with two McDonaldsrestaurants
he would develop to a chain of nine. A business success.
"Leo was a hard worker, we rarely saw him. With Carla sometimes we talked ',
tells us a couple living in the doorway to speak. "Carla complained that they
Patrick a difficult and cumbersome child, "she says. 'At the opening of the
McDrive in Duiven Leo had invited the whole neighborhood. Since we could see how that
hamburgers were fired and that they be discarded after ten minutes when they do not
be sold. That was interesting. Their son Perry also worked in the McDonalds.
I remember that when Carla said: Patrick we do not quickly see. "
Perry was the braver of the two brothers. He sat on the Lorentz College in Arnhem. About
Patrick's school is little known. "Saturday he at school?" Says
the overbuurman sarcastic. Another residents: "I think it places on the mavo Saturday,
but whether he has finished… "
We are invited by neighbors who for years across from the Van der Eems
lived. The two suspected why Patrick had little meaning to the McDonalds
to work, because he had found a faster way to come to money:
drug trafficking. Patrick dealde, says the man, from the parental home. 'Let me so
formulate: we saw many notable cars for a very short time to stop the
Houses in the Van der Eems. Patrick was still very young. Less than eighteen, treasure
me. His father has tried in vain to him under his wings. I'm glad
Now that Patrick still on the straight path is concerned and has become a successful businessman,
at least what I've learned from the media. "
On February 3 wrote Peter R. de Vries televisiegeschiedenis with his broadcast on the
disappearance of Natalee Holloway. In the programme, which the Dutch language fortified
with expressions like 'viesss…' and 'coño', did Joran van der Sloot, to lurkend
stickies, in a recording behangen Range Rover a book open in front
his new 'friend' Patrick van der Eem. By Pauw & Witteman told The Dutch
Scarface about his motives for Joran means to unmask an undercover.
He did it for Aruba, the Netherlands, for America, and of course Natales
mother Beth. In a broadcast on ABC he became even downright emotion when he
talked about it. Financial motives would have played no role, only
'Civic', but Patricks bank may nevertheless be gespekt. Are
cooperated with the program of De Vries earned him a relatively modest
sum of 25,000 euros. But now he put the finishing touches on a book with the
Disposed title (Weggewerkt) and the royal rights will undoubtedly have been paid.
An exclusive prepublication of the book was offered last week to media
to Dutch standards for the exorbitant sum of 50,000 euros.

A promotietour by the United States was thwarted because of a previous
conviction for drug offences. Reason enough for us to ask: Who is Patrick van
der Eem?
In Lathum, a village in the town of Zevenaar, lies Riverparc. It is a location with approximately
350 apartments surrounded by beautiful ponds. Permanent occupation by
the residents will be tolerated. This is the Thursday morning there muisstil. A woman leaves
her dog (and child) on one of the many bridges. 'Then at his home
All camera crews came, we knew that there was something in hand. But I had
Van der Eem have never seen. "Not strange. Because it is only half years ago that
Patrick van der Eem has rented a house here, about at the time of his beginnings as
burgerinfiltrant so. In his house on the Muggenwaard lit a lamp. We believe
someone told stommelen. But nobody does open. Patrick appears to sit in Aruba.
"He drives a Toyota Rav 4, Eric knows Rutgers. The operator of Grand Cafe Rutgers
On his wall of fame a photograph which he gearmd with Peter R. de Vries. On the
geruchtmakende Tuesday for the broadcast came here to eat with the crime reporter
a camera crew. "She had to wait at the entrance. When Patrick came out. I
I later at the park have a look and saw that he binnenliet in his house. They know
each other, I still thought. "
Riverparc shows a particular population. "Sometimes the best baking
over. A while back was a black Ferrari convertible along. That gave even say gas! There
here is sometimes a wietplantage rolled. You can now easily once something
and does not just hide inside. Secondly sixteen agents also live there.
Nice combination… "
In his current residence may Van der Eem are welcomed as a hero, in Arnhem
criminal environment, they are less enthusiastic. We meet a former uitsmijter from
Arnhemse the underworld. 'Two years ago, Patrick was still in Aruba for disposal
kick of his cokeverslaving. Aruba godbetert! Since they get the stuff about it
come! "The uitsmijter heard that Patrick has recently been beaten or seriously display
threatened. "He was refused at Club Underwear. They let nobody inside after
celebrate. And he was gone separately to 5, 6 hours, something like that. There are blacks there for the door and
who seem to have tackled him. Antilleans yes. In the environment he is seen as
a verrajer. Since they do not like. "
A story that also Patricks childhood friend Piet Quarters, owner of The coffeeshop
Penguin, knows. 'Now yes childhood… we kennen display quite. But I want nothing more
with that guy to do. That they psychopath of a Joran tackle, fine.
But if you liked this kind of useless things, you are also able to verlinken others. Therefore
He had hit, I've heard. "
Before he withdrew in Riverparc Van der Eem lived in a discreet
new housing in Almelo. "He always tough torn by the street. Since we complained
agree on, "says a neighbour. "But we had no further contact." Madam
Mol, who lived opposite Van der Eem, at number 3, he knows something better. 'Prima
neighbours. I went more with his girlfriend Heidi. They worked several days a week
Prenatal. "
With Heidi Geerlings Patrick has been a year or fortnightly one afaanrelatie,
say his
(former) friends. Heidi is the sister of the once formidable in Arnhem vechtsporter Wim
Geerlings, not unknown in the environment. "Patrick was always busy with his work. Our
daughters played together. That he was so busy with those Joran I had not expected ',
Mrs says Mol.
In Almelo is also the subsidiary of Pirtek established, where Patrick owner / manager.
A franchise in the service and repair of hydraulic hoses. Since October 2003
The company registered with the Chamber of Commerce. That the company with eight
workers a one-man, and no example, is striking, but the advantage applies
there may be no financial need to be discussed. From the headquarters of
Pirtek Luxembourg has been all communication with the media stopped. A exwerkneemster
Pirtek of Almelo says that "the company running fine." The story goes that
Father Van der Eem the first financial injection toediende. In any case stood Leo
registered as a director.
Meanwhile father and mother live Van der Eem as pensionados in Spanish
Marbella. They have their Arnhemse penthouse with scenic views of the Rhine
arrested. According to various sources, Van der Eem are McDonaldszaken
in 2000
of the hand have made for an amount of forty million guilders (18 million
euros). Businessman Ben Dekker bought two of these branches, including the office of Van
der Eem in neighbouring Giesbeek. Dekker had already McDonaldszaken since 1976.
'If
collegafranchisenemer
you saw each other regularly on openings, receptions, you voted Affairs
toward each other, "explains Dekker. 'A positive experience. Leo is a direct vent, you knew
immediately what you did to him. "Also, he sometimes at the family home. 'Friendly
people. I knew his son Perry and wife Carla who were also working at McDonalds.
Carla was hostess. A real werkersfamilie. But Patrick, I have never seen. "
"On one hand was a hard businessman Leo on the Saturday cents, on the other hand, he was for his
employees very well, "says Berry Peelen that from the very beginning as manager
with Van der Eem worked and the family well. "Leo was in the business to make money
deserve. He had in South America
seated in the drankendistributie, including
Budweiser, and also had a Toyotadealerschap
. In the early years worked for Leo himself
full account in its affairs. Son Perry also worked there until the last. His hobbies were
sailing and fishing. Perry wanted a charter to establish the West Indies. They traveled all
happy, of course, had the money for it. "

"Patrick was different," says Peel. "Typical of such cases the youngest son of rich
parents who upsets. Patrick gereld came to the matter in a thick mercedes, but he
had not even a driving licence at that time. There were certain than uh ... ladies on the
back seat. A real player, yes. When they asked him if he does not agree what to study or
Work had to do, he always spoke the words: 'Why? I need only to wait
pap to death. "
'If I remember correctly it was around 1992 that he suddenly ran with that scar, "says
Peelen. 'If you are in the criminal environment does not meet certain commitments and, let them
signature behind, it was explained to me then. Perry told a lot about his younger
brother. Patrick was a nightmare for those parents. Pa was harder, mother is still
sometimes about her heart, what stopped him regularly. Because so, in the criminal've mileu
one day you thick tackle money in your pocket and the other time you have nothing. "
Another former business: "Carla was a very dear wife, she did everything
Patrick wanted, just gave him a cheque. Since I was in itself. "
Back to ArnhemZuid.
In the eighties and nineties was the district Holthuizen
plagued by burglaries. Among other things, at one of the neighbours of the Van der Eems. 'Behind
in the garden were the wheelbarrows. There was audio equipment stolen. Striking
that our house was only a half hour left unattended, "says the neighbor.
"We had a suspicion that Patrick had agreed to do. But the police have the
never solved. "Whether the suspect had any basis, is unknown. But that Patricks
bad name him at that time in the road Saturday, is obvious. And one of the intimus
family still has a remarkable story. "One day Leo came to me. It will
around 1988, 1989 have been convicted. While they were on vacation, was their whole house
plundered. That in itself is annoying, but certainly when the offender was arrested the…
showed them to his own son Patrick. I think Patrick still interrogated by the police.
But the family Van der Eem has obviously made no declaration and the case is in the
cover stopped. There was then a social worker at Patrick or put someone on youth
family care. Leo ashamed to death. "
"He has done his parents much grief," confirms a childhood friend who still
maintains contact with members of the family. "Patrick dealde in hard drugs. I think that
its drive for money. His family had a lot of money, but his father gave him the
not. I could not understand his behaviour. From everything he got home. A moped on his
sixteenth, a car at the age of eighteen. But he looked up at the major drug traffickers.
He saw how easy that their money earned. Patrick has always been that goal in mind
had: a big boy in the criminal environment and many poen deserve. "
"I know how he did in the environment," says the childhood friend. 'Suddenly tough to do with great
bales money. That vondie
beautiful. Until he joined the police had come. He is
twice arrested. From the first conviction, I know nothing. At the second he was already out
house. Lived it somewhere in Charlemagne, Malden. His brother was then also arrested. Oh,
they went wrong with such people. If they earned money. "
Why Patrick has participated in the undervoveroperatie by Peter R.? "It goes
he simply about money? I've also seen on ABC that reportage. Since he almost crying.
Well, I almost started to laugh. That is not normally how he played. It is a
beautiful story, but they are crocodile tears. I believe there is nothing at all. If he
not in each other. You know, he's just a businessman. He will not appear, but
wants to make money. A bit of emotion there, I can imagine. But it was formerly a
very tough boy. Although ... if there quarrel came, his brother had to solve. "
"A burglary? No way, that's never happened, "responds Patricks mother Carla. After two
Call days, we finally contact one of the parents. "We are now in San
Sebastian, "says Carla through her cellphone. "We go over a few days to Canada
where we see Patrick. "
"How we deal with his new status as a known Dutchman? I leave it simply
me coming. I do not know how it handles Patrick. This whole thing had on me
gehoeven. I do not like to enter the center of attention.
Patrick is a man in itself, a story in itself. Of course I'm proud of him. I've
a very dear son. He loves his mother and he calls almost every day. He's just
very sweet, which is also evident from the conversations he has with me. "
About Patricks criminal youth: "Of course we have concerns. But we
have ensured good for him. He comes from good parents. Of course, we had by
criminal things that he undertook. We tried it declines to help. There are very
what calls home. I do believe now that he has learned his lesson. He has
a woman and two children. It will never happen again. Everyone makes mistakes sometimes, right? "

According to Carla it is not wrong that Patrick wanted to McDonalds, stronger 'he was
Manager there. " Even her husband has nothing to do with Pirtek Almelo, she says. 'That company
Patrick has built itself. "Then Carla says something remarkable. "Patrick has errors
in his youth, I do not deny that. But everyone has sometimes made mistakes.
He is sure that ceased last few years. Since his case has begun. "
Remarkably, since Van der Eem in Pauw & Witteman said that he was twice
convicted, for the last time at the age of twenty. Then he was no longer in contact
with justice, "except for traffic offences."
We're talking someone who wanted the years by Patrick van der Eem intense experience.
After long hesitation last week he wanted to talk on condition of anonymity. The man
lead a respectable life for many years. "Sixteen, seventeen years ago we learned each other
know in the criminal circuit. Patrick was a trader. He acted in everything. Not
only soft. Ecstasy, cocaine, heroin ... He had connections in the Turkish underworld
which was very powerful in Arnhem. Since he moved his heroin and pills.
Patrick was foremost a drugsrunner. He dealde on the highway between Oberhausen and
Arnhem. Many German clients. I think he also arranged import of coke from the
West Indies, since he at least spoke about himself. "
"For this broadcast of De Vries, I have enormous laugh. That score is not good with his
head, I thought. How he spoke, the street that smelled - it was at Patrick feet.
The action with Joran van der Sloot fits all sides to him. Patrick thinks only
to itself. He is a big bully. Driftig, temperamentvol. "
"Hobbies he had not. Well, cokesnuiven. He looked no more striking. Contributed
labels but we all did in those years. "
"Patrick did everything a little engagement in the world. The drug abuse, the whores.
Whether he actually was, I do not know, but he profiled himself as a happy
successful pimp. He also had weapons, but I've never seen them
use. Whether you're a large or small boy are in the environment, arms hear them.
As you buy a ticket on the train. Patrick encircled themselves with a few solid
spierbundels. Arnhemse known from the environment. He schermde were agreed as they are
bodyguards. That was intimidating, and that was exactly the intention. Those
ontleenden boys are again a certain status. "
"A spider, a centipede, describes him this past relationship. "He had a number
locations where he got people to go to the deals to close. There he ronselde
other people. He could then have been concluding deals and his trade there. I cite
they are voetsoldaten. He did it with everyone that he had available. Patrick may
very compelling, it is a great manipulator. He attracted people who are criminal
world within, in the same way as he has done with Joran. With much talk,
many show. That is what he can. If your yard and if customers can also voetsoldaten yard. "
According to Peter Schouten, Van der Eems perschef, Patrick for opiumdelicten
convicted, it was indeed heroin. 'At the age of twenty. He has 11 months
seated. "Last Saturday the Volkskrant reported that the first trial - also
because of violence came
when Patrick was fifteen years old.
"I treasure that he had a few hundred customers," continues our source. "He deserved much
money, but he did everything. Not to fast cars. On coke. He multiple snoof
grams of cocaine per day. Patrick still maintains contacts with people with whom
I absolutely do not want to be seen. He surrounds itself with that kind of structural people. That
I partly from my own observation. After the age of twenty he is certainly not ceased the
drug trafficking. "
On its website described misdaadjournalist Hendrik Jan Korterink how Patrick possible
had come to his scar. In the Colombian underworld would someone so with a
mes be modified as a warning for reminders. A boca grande '(large
foot). Self had Van der Eem talk about 'one vechtpartijtje. " Against his employer said
he still a autoongeluk.
"In the period 92, 93 he came to his scar '
says our informant. 'The story was then that he has betrayed people. We
there have never been in so many words spoken about. But he has a lot
leergeld paid. He has talked with the police, so went the story. It was a great
group of people rolled up. And that was no Colombians. You need the Turkish angle
Search. "
What motivates Van der Eem? 'Money.
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« Reply #878 on: June 26, 2008, 05:38:59 AM »

on the nwo blogje :

Renee Gielen has information (bordering on evidence) that Joran is not the last that  the heavily drugged  girl have seen.
The OM of Aruba and the Aruban police have several witnesses prohibited even longer to speak with Renee Gielen… .. Why would that be?

Hans Mos don't want tot speak with RG , why is that ?
I think he have more info about Renee Gielen and her tollen team 
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« Reply #879 on: June 26, 2008, 08:44:40 AM »

I've also seen on ABC that reportage. Since he almost crying.
Well, I almost started to laugh. That is not normally how he played. It is a
beautiful story, but they are crocodile tears.



Alright, now we have a full blown character assassination campaign going on Patrick Van der eem. Which is not difficult, Fozzy Bear the Jim Henson effing Muppet could stick this cat in the can.

Why wasn't this happening in February or March of 08?

Or is it a Master at work, behind

the scenes, named Peter R. De Vries?

Maybe this is all going according to plan?

Hmmmmmmm... PONDEROUS, man.
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