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"It's the gangster in me that I've met back '
By Menno van Dongen and Maud Effting
published on June 24, 2008 08:31, updated on June 24, 2008 09:38
Patrick van der Eem (35) led Joran van der Sloot for hidden cameras statements about his role in the case of Natalee Holloway in Aruba in 2005. After the TV broadcast of Peter R. de Vries in February he says in the book Wednesday Discards his story.
Saturday you all five rounds with Joran van der Sloot under the coke?
"One hundred percent. Did not you show me to my nose? "
How much you spent per day?
'Two, three grams. Man, I was seven months under the cocaine. "
Why did you do that then?
"Joran felt something. I myself had imposed and I felt that he thought, ho, breeding, where did this guy come from? Is it not a policeman? And when I started to sniffing for his nose. Every day. Thus, the doubts about him.
'Cocaine makes you emotieloos. That I needed, otherwise I had a little boy who calls. At the end I slept two or three hours per night. But listen: I can hang up a beautiful story, but nobody has said that I had. I'm an addict. You manipulates yourself. I wanted sniffing, man. I spent a year not more, but I was looking for an excuse. "
Used Joran also coke?
"Joran did gesnoven agree with me. Not in the car. And even for the journeys. In the beginning I also once smoked crack on his nose. Joran then lifting, but it's nothing for him. He became panicky. Crack is also my weakness. I can sniffing so much I want, but do I get a crack devil. Paranoid. With a gun behind the door. "
Saturday you with a gun on Joran flat?
"Yes, that I had often with me, do you? It is purely to show who you are. And to avoid problems in the environment. "
Did ABC, the American broadcaster who bought the broadcast, that you used cocaine in the car?
"I do not know for sure. Peter R. de Vries has images from the raw material cut and against ABC said: this is all. In order to protect me - even though I had not asked. "
Why was never said that you used?
'Because it did not matter. It is about what Joran told. I have all the questions that Peter gave me,. On my way. "
De Vries writes in the foreword that you have a good job, but he calls you hufterig and unacceptable by the coke. You tried him and regarded him as commander you bitch. " It was wait and see who they found: Good or Bad Patrick Patrick. De Vries has a couple of times at the point before stopping.
"What Peter writes, is correct. It is the gangster in me that I've met back. Joran was looking for someone so. He was very excited. I had the gangster away when I stepped from the drug trade. I was previously mandatory. A manipulator. This can not in one go off. And it's still there. If someone aankijkt me, I think what you're breeding must boy? "
Were you the biggest drug dealer of Arnhem?
'If you're 300, 400 grams of heroin per day sells, you're a pretty long way. On my 18th I had several homes in Arnhem where dealers sold to me. I had made money and tackle everything. With whores, everything. I paid for everyone. If we had a feast, we took just 50 grams of coke and that we snov. We had evenings where we 15 thousand guilders in a single format. Clothes? That I once wore. Then I threw them away.
"If I Joran at that time had met, and I had not believed him, then I had him taken to the forest. Then I have to ensure that everything he told me, haha. And if Natalee had been my child, I had him driven through his head shot. "
To show off a little Joran told you about the first corpse that you saw. Zag you that much?
"I've seen similar, but not from people I've dealt with something. I have seen a man that the finger was cut off. Tsjak. But I will never name names. I can keep secrets. I think that I am not yet in this book eenvijftigste of my past have told. Later perhaps. But I've still things that need to be extinguished. "
What about now with your scar?
"I still got money from a boy. Because he is not paid, I sold him badly cut heroin, and when he came back angry. Because I trusted him, I set up my honkbalknuppel down. Then he grabbed a knife and cut me.
"I've never done declaration. I thought, but you wait. One day I gave him aangereden. He wanted to cross and I thought, okay, bam. I rode hard. He flew as the car around. I grabbed a bat and wanted to kill him. But a friend gave me. I've never seen that boy. "
You come from a wealthy family. What they found your drugscarrière?
'It was a tragedy for them. I have incredibly smart parents. It is not fine if the police against you say your son is one of the whole. But what could they do? My father gave me great cars when I was working with him, but I'm an entrepreneur. I had my own 'franchise'.
"When I was 15, I no longer lived at home and I was caught with 66 grams of heroin and 8,000 guilders and cash. That is not normal.
"The turnaround came on my 22th. My wife became pregnant. When I later had to sit a year for drugs, I knew: never again. My father is multimillionaire. He has helped me my business. I sell hydraulic hoses and make annual 200 thousand euros profit. "
Why would you deal with Joran?
"Because of the suffering that he has dealt with Aruba. And to the mother of Natalee. But my ego also played a role. I am a man, I have a piemel and piemels be hard. At the moment you just do what others can not, the FBI, the CIA, the police ... Anyone looking for, and Patrick find. Well, then I feel it tough. "
Why did you Peter R. de Vries' fokking amateur '?
"I have great respect for Peter, but he said there is easy. Sometimes I came home with the images and then cause them to look away immediately. Then I thought: get the cancer man, I'm not a whore. I grab you, I cut your throat loose, do you, Mr. De Vries? This was also the coke hear. I sat all that time in excitement and then driving away as you? That you can not create. "
Before you went to De Vries, you spoke with the police. You wanted Joran with a wietkwekerij creation and leave him there eavesdropping. Since the police do not cooperate?
'Come on. They have containers with cocaine inside emerge during the IRT affair. What is a wietplantage? They had months to eavesdropping. If they had done this, that case was one hundred percent sure. "
Why you demanded 300 thousand euros from the police?
"I invented but an amount. It fell to negotiate. I have three times with the Criminal Intelligence Unit talk. But the only thing they wanted was that I was drugsinfiltrant. They had no interest in Joran van der Sloot. Total not. The third time I said: breeding you. When detective who said: ga but to Peter R. de Vries.
"I've De Vries 250 thousand euros requested. But that was not me. That is obvious, because I took pleasure with 25 thousand euros expenses and almost half of the revenue from the sale of nieuwsclips. That would yield little, they said. Nevertheless, I received 300 thousand euros, because ABC paid 830 thousand dollars. Europe also yielded money. "
You know who Natalee dumped into the sea, eh?
'That is speculate. But I know it. Joran has me in the beginning of a name. He said that no boy who has done something, but that he done a lot with him. When I called to the police in Aruba gave, they were crazy, because it confirmed their own suspicions. They were two names. One is the day after the disappearance of Natalee departed from Aruba. He is a queer from a wealthy family. The police asked me if Joran bisexual tendencies. "
Why is Justice does not go with the research, do you think?
"I do not know. The OM has a trump card. Before the end of the year, they agreed. How do I know? I have long arms. I think they make good chance for a breakthrough. That is my only hope. "
Joran goes far freely. Is the operation has not failed?
"I had found the fine when he was arrested, but it's beyond my power. The most important thing is that Natales mother knows what happened. In my book I want everything shut down. It is a bestseller. I want to go to America, to Oprah Winfrey. That will succeed. "
You got to the coke and your wife left you almost. Was it worth it?
"All I had received nothing, then it was worth it. I have enough human misery and contempt now give back what I once. It is not about money. I am a millionaire. And there are still many millions. I have smuggled cocaine and slangetjes I can sell. I can both very good. And I am the allerbekendste slangenverkoper of the world.
"The rehabilitation is heavy, but the last three weeks I have no more coke. Yet there comes a day I again ga sniffing. It is far too good, man. But daily use is not an option. I would now a good father and husband. "
Do you have contact with Joran?
'No. I have nothing with him. He's just a psychopath, man. He asked me: Patrick, did you ever been my friend? I said, but wait until the broadcast. He's just a project. "