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« on: June 24, 2008, 02:25:44 PM »



Arambatzis – going to post what I have in a couple of posts and hopefully it will make more sense. These are the Arambatzis name connections that have been found so far. There are documents and certificates for some of the relationships, and many addresses and properties have been checked. Vms, Sharon, Hotping, Lala’s, and probably Monkeys unknown to me researched this, and this is a summary of all that was found.

3 or more preliminary people searches were used to come up with the family connections. Hotping and myself, both found Mayra Smalley separately, and by different means, and IIRC it was on the same day! Our research comes up with Mayra Smalley as the mother of Ernesto. Since Ernesto was probably born in Venezeula, his race would not be listed as white. Mayra’s is listed as white. Mayra would be the daughter of Nicholas, Greek, and Editha, Dutch, Arambatzis of Florida,  and Ernesto the grandson. Mayra comes up related to D.Arambatzis, is this Ernesto D. or are we missing a link?

Venezuela

http://www.esdata.info/centro/38162/electores/1

REP de Diciembre de 2007.
ARAMBATZIS PEREZ ROBBY GERARDUS – 51 years old
         
Aruba
ARAMBATZIS-RODRIGUEZ ALBERT, LILIAN REGINA, MONTANJA, 39-F

Robby Arambatzis.
http://solodipueblo.com/index.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_view&gid=102

United States

Nicolas and Editha Arambatzis aka Edithavict

Mayra Smalley…Greek father Dutch Mother – multiple marriages – related to D. Arambatzis This is Ernesto’s middle initial. Mayra’s dob. Oct 24th 1956. A son Victor. Vms has marriage certificates for Mayra…Smalley and Ribeiro. Not sure where the Prada comes in. Have seen her connected to a D. Arambatzis. She is known as Mayra Prada on property records connected to Nicholas Arambatzis…Hotping has this.

Maria T. Arambatzis married to Victor Manuel Arambatsis. Vms-marriage cert.

Victor Manuel Arambatzis.married to Maria-Vms-marriage cert.Julio Cesar Arambatzis dob Dec.13th. 1958 married to Tania M Cardozo-vms-marriage cert.

Sandra J Arambalzis related to Nicholas and Julio

Ernesto Arambatzis DOB 8/18/77  related to D.Arambatzis, Nicholas and Editha

D Arambatzis??

Arambatzis,Perez Bradenton, FL This is a listed address for Ernesto             
         


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« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2008, 02:40:08 PM »

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Continued…going to post the name associations last as I will have to take some time on it.

Arambatzis is a Greek name…The links to Mayra below say that she lived in Venezuela. One says 12 years and the other 25 years. (other Monkeys have compared the 2 pics and come to the conclusion that they are the same Mayra Arambatzis.)  Daughter of a Greek father and a Dutch mother. Arambatzis appears to be a Greek name.

Robby Gerardus Arambatzis Perez, from Venezuela related to the Arambatzis from Florida how?  Since this is the only family we have found, so far, Robby would have to be the son of Nicholas and Editha, or be Mayra’s husband and for some reason taken her name.

Lilian Regina Arambatzis-Rodriguez Albert from Aruba related how? It appears that her maiden name is Arambatzis. Then she would have to be a sister to Mayra, and daughter of Nicholas and Editha.  Only problem here is that the Chamber records for 2004 listed her as Dutch. Which means she was Dutch or Aruban, considered to be Dutch. An Arambatzis born in Venezuela would not be considered Dutch.

If the Arambatzis is Lilian’s married name, would she keep it after being remarried?
Robby seems to be Lilian’s son, but haven’t much info on him, except the newspaper link.  Freddy?…Still looking at Zedan…most likely in the US, as Aruba and Venezuelaen searches have come up empty. Regardless, cannot make a connection with the above family relationships as to Ernesto and Freddy being half-brothers or step-brothers. Klaas has suggested a link through Sasha Rodriguez.


Mayra, Victor and Ernesto

http://letsmakeupwithmayra.com/Biographies.html

Mayra

Professional Makeup Artist from Venezuela speaks English & Spanish

Independant Sales Director with Mary Kay Cosmetics

Makeup trainer for Let's Makeup! Cosmetologist

26 years of experience, worked at many makeup counters

Privet service for Weddings, Quinces, Proms, Pictures, TV,

Theater, Parties, Corrective Makeup, Extream Makeovers,

Before & after, Persona & Business Image

One of the official Makeup Artist for the Miss Universe  Pagent in Miami

The owner of Mayra's Nails & Makeup (1991-1997)

Victor Smalley             

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Dancer & part owner of Stars Dance Studio

Young Entrepenour 19 years old

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Of course there are two…. Mayras -from Venezuela

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There is a pic of Mayra and Victor here…if some-one could post…TIA

http://letsmakeupwithmayra.com/Biographies.html

A pic of Mayra here

www.vozcatolica.org/70/sanacion.htm - 22k

Ernesto

http://www.facebook.com/people/Ernesto_Arambatzis/720931412

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfmfuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=105566154

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=227493

   




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« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2008, 03:05:20 PM »

NAMES AND ASSOCIATIONS

Editha Arambatzis             North Bay Village, FL        D Arambatzis
                                                                     Nicolas Arambatzis

Nicolas Arambatzis             North Bay Village, FL        D Arambatzis
                                                                     Editha Arambatzis

Ernesto Arambatzas   30   Miami,Fl                       Editha Arambatzis
Ernest D Arambatzis         North bay Village, Fl       Nicholas Arambatzis
Ernesto Arambatzis          Miami Beach,Fl
Ernesto E Arambatzis        Saco, Me
Ernesto L Arambatzis
Ernesto M Arambatzis
Ernesto P Arambatzis
Ernesto D Arambtzis
Arambatzis Ernesto   

Ernesto D Arambatzis      Miami, FL   

Sandra J Arambalzis
Sandra V Arambatzis                                     
Sandra L Smith     48                Weston, FL         Julio C Arambatzis
                                                                                   Nicholas Arambatzis

Ernest D Arambatzis                         Miami,FL
Arambatzis Ernesto  30                     Miami Beach, FL                                          

Ernesto Arambatzis                   Bradenton, FL

Editha D Arambatzis      Miami, FL
    
Nicolas Afambatzis   73                    Fort Lauderdale      Editha V. Arambatzis
Nicolas Arambalzis                           Weston,FL             Julio C.
Nicholas Arambatzis
Nicolas Arambatzis

Editha V Alambatzis                         Fort Lauderdale      Nicholas Arambatzis
Editha V Arambatzis  73                    Weston
                                                    Miami

Nicholas Arambatzis   71   Fort Lauderdale, FL

Edita Arambatzis                   Fort Lauderdale, FL

Edita Arambatzis
Editha V Arambatzis      Fort Lauderdale, FL

Julio C Arambatzis                   Weston, FL        Nicholas Arambatzis

Peter Arambatzis                             Minneapolis               Tina Arambatzis

Tina Arambatzis…………………….Minneapolis                           Peter Arambatzis

To be continued....   








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« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2008, 03:12:03 PM »

Continued....

Maura S Arambatzis     51……Miami,Fl                                   D. Arambatzis
Mayra Prada
Mayra A Prada
Mayra M Prada
Maura Smalley
Mayra Smalley
Mayra A Smalley
Mayra M Smalley
Mayra Smally

Maria T Arambatzis     45     Clarksville,Tn               Edithavict C Arambatzis
Maria Arambatzis                Colorado Springs,Co      Nicholas D.
Maria Irizarr Arambatzis
Maria Teresa Arambatzis
Maria T Irizarry
Maria Teresa Irizarry
Maria T Shcumate
Maria T Shumate
Maria Teresa Shumate
Marie A Shumate
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« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2008, 03:21:23 PM »

Could some-one please post the pics for me...TIA...There is a pic of Mayra and Victor here…if some-one could post…TIA

http://letsmakeupwithmayra.com/Biographies.html

A pic of Mayra here

www.vozcatolica.org/70/sanacion.htm - 22k

Ernesto

http://www.facebook.com/people/Ernesto_Arambatzis/720931412

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfmfuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=105566154

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=227493

   
Sorry vms...I seemed to have messed up the link for Mayra's pic...lost one of the IMG things...LOL

Please feel free to comment on anything that may have been overlooked, or a wrong path taken....sometimes things are much clearer when they are posted!

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« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2008, 03:51:09 PM »

Just needed to add that the addresses for Mayra Smalley and Mayra Prada are the same and there is documentation linking Mayra Prada/Smalley to Nicholas Arambatzis.

Maybe vms, Hotping, Sharon, Lala's and any unknown Monkeys could post any documentation they are comfortable posting...Thanks In Advance...
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« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2008, 04:30:16 PM »

Could some-one please post the pics for me...TIA...There is a pic of Mayra and Victor here…if some-one could post…TIA

http://letsmakeupwithmayra.com/Biographies.html

A pic of Mayra here

www.vozcatolica.org/70/sanacion.htm - 22k

Ernesto

http://www.facebook.com/people/Ernesto_Arambatzis/720931412

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfmfuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=105566154

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=227493

   
Sorry vms...I seemed to have messed up the link for Mayra's pic...lost one of the IMG things...LOL

Please feel free to comment on anything that may have been overlooked, or a wrong path taken....sometimes things are much clearer when they are posted!



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« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2008, 09:01:26 PM »

Thanks Klaas...we are still plodding away! 

Vms ... Thanks for posting the pics!

Mayra Margarita Smalley
DOB.  October 24th., 1956

First known date in the US  March 29th. 1984

June 21 1987 Mayra M Prada m. Clarence Gregory Smalley-Miami-Dade
May 20 1991 Mayra M, Arambatzis m. Emmanuel F Ribeiro-Miami-Dade

Divorce Records for Mayra in Florida
Mayra M Arambatzis/ Enrique Sergio Prada

In Venezuela  27 years  – Born 1956 + 27 =1983

Ernesto Arambatzis
DOB.  August 18th., 1977

First known date in the US -  December 12th. 1995



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« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2008, 07:05:22 AM »

Thanks Hotping...we have certificates for some of thes and will check.

Going to bring the posts from Shango here as well...

Florida Marriages
Mayra Margarita Perez 10 Jan 1996 Miami-Dade
Hazelett Lawrence Gallagher 10 Jan 1996 Miami-Dade
   
Mayra Margarita Arambatzis 21 Jun 1987 Miami-Dade   
Mayra Margarita Prada 21 Jun 1987 Miami-Dade 
 Clarence Gregory Smalley 21 Jun 1987 Miami-Dade 
   
Mayra Margarita Arambatzis 20 May 1991 Miami-Dade 
Julio Cesar Arambatzis 20 May 1991 Miami-Dade 
Emmanuel Fernando Ribeiro 20 May 1991 Miami-Dade 
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« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2008, 07:08:54 AM »

Posts start here...Thanks SS and vms

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« Reply #695 on: July 04, 2008, 02:15:07 PM » Quote 

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More for Mum.  I hope something here will help you.

http://www.geni.com/last-name/zedan

Sara Lidia Zedan
Coral Gables, Florida, United States


Frank Arambatzis
Business development manager at Bankwest
Current: Business development manager, Bankwest

Peter Arambatzis
United States: Greater Milwaukee Area
financial services 
CFO HFS North America at GE Inc.
Current: CFO HFS North America, GE Inc.

Wassi Arambatzis
Independent Individual & Family Services Professional
• Germany
• outsourcing/offshoring

http://www.linkedin.com/find/a/a44/a44_25.html


El Tribunal Supremo du Justicia, Venezuela

Vista la solicitud interpuesta por el ciudadano MOISES AID ZEDAN VELAZCO, titular de la Cédula de Identidad Nº 10.412.154, residenciado en esta ciudad de Maracaibo del Estado Zulia, donde requiere la entrega del vehículo MARCA CHEVROLET, PLACAS 804AFA, SERIAL DE CARROCERIA CCD14AV213424, SERIAL DEL MOTOR T0401CEJ, MODELO C-10, AÑO 1.980, COLOR ROJO, este Tribunal para Decidir observa:


- Delegación Maracaibo, y que por el Ministerio de Transporte y Comunicaciones registra a nombre del ciudadano ZEDAN VELAZCO JOSE, titular de la cedula de identidad N° 10.412.154.
http://lara.tsj.gov.ve/decisiones/2005/agosto/546-10-S3C-109-05-1.193-05.html


Jorge Alberto Zedan Abudei

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Licenciando en Ciencias y Artes Militares A.M. V. Año 1973, Ingeniero en Sistema Escuela Superior. Argentina Año 1980, Programa Avanzado de Gerencia IESA Año 1983, Se desempeño como Director de la Academia Militar de Venezuela Durante los años 1996-1997 y 1997-1998, y fue Presidente del Instituto de Previsión Local de las Fuerzas Armadas Nacionales.
http://www.abamc.com/content/page.aspx?ID=19


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Sus hijos: Guillermo, Ada y Chichia Rahn Lara, Gloria, Helen y Reini Rahn Machado; hijos políticos: Rebeca Zedan de Rahn, Carlos Rodríguez Gómez y Nino Donzelli; sus nietos: Rahn Zedan, Briceño Rahn, Rodríguez Rahn, Rahn Pashen y Donzelli Rahn; sus cuñadas, sobrinos demás familiares y amigos. His sons: William, Ada and Chichi Rahn Lara, Gloria, Helen and Reini Rahn Machado; political children: Rebecca Zedan of Rahn, Carlos Rodriguez and Gomez Nino Donzelli; their grandchildren: Rahn Zedan, Briceño Rahn, Rodriguez Rahn, Rahn Pasha and Donzelli Rahn; their sisters, nephews other relatives and friends.
Hecho acaecido en la ciudad de Maracaibo, el día 26 de septiembre de 2003. Done occurred in Maracaibo, on September 26, 2003.
Se efectuará una misa por su eterno descanso el martes 30 de septiembre, a las 6:30 pm, en la Capilla Santa Ana, Av. There will be a Mass for his eternal rest on Tuesday, September 30, at 6:30 pm in the Chapel Santa Ana, Av. Principal de La Lagunita, con calle P3-3 El Portal. Principal of La Lagunita, with street P3-3 El Portal.
Paz a sus restos Peace be with his remains
Caracas, 28 de septiembre de 2003 Caracas, September 28, 2003
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« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2008, 07:13:34 AM »

« Reply #706 on: July 04, 2008, 10:54:02 PM » Quote SS

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Arambatziz-Zedan
Confusion over Freddy's last name is said to result from naming conventions which can be difficult for some to interpret. Apparently the name of both parents or their family names are taken at birth and Zedan may be Freddy's Mother's maiden name.

Anyone want to take a shot at this now??

ARAMBATZIS-RODRIGUEZ ALBERT              LILIAN REGINA.
ARAMBATZIS PEREZ                                ROBBY GERARDUS
ZEDAN ARAMBATZIS                               FREDDY ALEXANDER aka ARENDS
ARAMBATZIS-ZEDAN                               FREDDY ALEXANDER aka ARENDS
RODRIGUEZ ARAMBATZIS                         SASHA VICTORIA
ARAMBATZIS                                         ERNESTO
                                                          GHIS?

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OK Mum, I'm going to take wild shot at the name game......

Lilian was born Lilian Regina Rodriguez Albert.  Her father (Rodriguez) must be Hispanic and her mother (Albert) was probably Dutch.  She is married to her second husband.  The last name of Husband #2 is Arambatzis.  Her name should be Lilian Regina Arambatzis Rodriguez, but for some reason she has held on to Albert, her mother's maiden name.  So, she incorrectly calls herself Lilian Regina Arambatzis Rodriguez Albert.

Ernesto was born Ernesto Zedan Rodriguez Albert, if husband #1 was his Zedan father.  Otherwise, he would be Ernesto Rodriguez Albert, if he was illegitimate.  When Lilian married for the second time, Arambatzis adopted Ernesto, which does tell me that he probably was illegitimate.  So, he is either Ernesto Arambatzis Zedan Rodriguez or Ernesto Arambatzis Rodriguez (+/- Albert).  Ernesto is a model and into the night life. He came to the US to school.  He probably dropped all of the names except the adopted name of Ernesto Arambatzis.  He was probably illegitimate and some wealthy man did his paternity obligation by paying his tuitions.  Ernesto goes by his adopted last name and it is probably less embarrassing than using his mother's maiden name which tells the world that he was illegitimate.

Freddy's biological father is Zedan and Freddy's correct name is Freddy Alexander Zedan Rodriguez (+/- Albert).  His father was Lilian's first husband.  Lilian's second husband has also adopted him or he is just incorrectly using his mother's second married name. so he now goes by Freddy Alexander Zedan Arambatzis or Freddy Alexander Arambatzis Zedan (+/- Rodriguez Albert), depending if there is a special order of last names with adoptions.

Sasha Victoria Arambatzis Rodriguez (+/- Albert) is Sasha's correct name.  Current husband, Arambatzis, is probably her biological father because Zedan isn't in her name at all.

Ghis isn't a real sister and was only fooling around in the newspaper because she and Freddy are good friends and she feels like a little sister to him.

Arends is complete nonsense.  The name was probably mixed up with Max in the beginning and the newspapers just rolled with it.

Robby Gerardus Arambatzis Perez is either Lilian's husband (his mother's name is Perez), a brother-in-law of Lilian, or a cousin of Lilian's husband.

Does this make sense?   I have no clue if this is correct.  It's just a guess.   
 
 
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« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2008, 07:15:15 AM »

« Reply #714 on: July 05, 2008, 10:45:11 AM » Quote  SS

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Mum - I thought of another possiblity with the name game.

Ernesto Arambatzis-(mother's maiden name) could be the legitimate son of Robby Arambatzis.  His parents could be divorced or his mother could be dead.  When his father married Lilian, his name didn't change.  He could be Lilian's step-son, a step-brother to Freddy, and a half-brother to Sasha.  Ernesto could have other siblings or relatives named Arambatzis in Florida, that wouldn't be relatives of Freddy - only Sasha.  Ernesto could have been in Bradenton because of his biological mother or aunts and uncles.  If his mother is still alive, she could have a new name in Florida.  Have you found him living anywhere with someone?  His paternal grandparents are probably Arambatzis and Perez.

I do think that Freddy and Sasha have similar features.  Ernesto doesn't look like either of them.

IIRC, Ernesto at one point told Freddy to stop using Arambatzis?  Maybe this was because Arambatzis isn't Freddy's name at all and he just uses it because everyone else in the family uses Arambatzis.  It might be unlikely that Robby Arambatzis-Perez adopted Freddy if his Zedan father was still alive in Venezuela.  Unless he was adopted by Robby Arambatzis, his real name should be Freddy Alexander Zedan-Rodriguez (+/- Albert).Arends could be his paternal grandmother's name.  His father could likely have been Father Zedan-Arends.  Put it all together and you get Freddy Alexander Zedan Arends Rodrigues Albert, and Arambtazis is not offical at all and only used around the neighborhood to identify him with his family that uses the Arambatzis name.  His correct name is probably Freddy Alexander Zedan just as it says in the police statements.

I do think that Robby is probably Lilian's husband.  If Ernesto is Robby's biological son, this might be why Ernesto got the fancy education that Freddy and Sasha didn't get.  The Florida connection is Arambatzis and Perez, not Zedan or Rodriguez.  Ernesto is probably only related to Freddy through marriage, but he's Sasha's half-brother.

This is making me crazy.   
 
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« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2008, 07:18:37 AM »

« Reply #719 on: July 05, 2008, 01:05:31 PM » Quote SS

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Quote from: Lala'sMom on July 05, 2008, 12:45:28 PM
Quote from: SS on July 05, 2008, 11:34:14 AM
Mum - this is just a guess, but these are probably the most logical connections.

quote Lala's
According to this...Freddy is not related at all to Sasha is he?  Or do I mean Ernesto?  So why did Ernesto attend Sasha's big bash?  Can anyone see my eyes rolling back in my head? 



quote SS
If the chart is correct, Freddy and Ernesto are step-brothers.  They are only related to each other through the marriage of Freddy's mother and Ernesto's father.

Sasha is a half-sister to both Freddy and Ernesto.  Freddy and Sasha share a mother.  Ernesto and Sasha share a father.  For Lilian and Robby, it's mine, yours, and ours - a blended family.

I don't believe that Arambatzis is Freddy's legal name, unless Lilian's husband adopted him. That's most likely why he stopped using it and stayed with Zedan.  According to the police records which say that his name is Freddy Alexander Zedan, this chart would be correct.  But, it's Aruba and who knows.  This configuration would eliminate all of the illegitimate child guesses.
 
 
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« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2008, 07:21:35 AM »

« Reply #723 on: July 05, 2008, 01:34:59 PM »SS

Mum - I put Freddy's father's mother as Arends(?) because Freddy had claimed to be aka Arends.  It could actually be Arandashi as Art Woods stated.   If we can figure this out, I'll change it on the chart.  I have no idea where Ghis would fit in here, if at all.  We need to know more about her, including her age and last name.  Depending on her age and full name, she could be Freddy's biological sister through Lilian and Zedan.  She could be the daughter of Lilian and Robby.  She could be Ernesto's biological sister through Robby and Ernesto's mother.  She could also be the daughter of Zedan and a second wife or the daughter of Ernesto's mother and a second husband.  Ghis could be Freddy's sister, half-sister, step-sister, or nothing at all.
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« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2008, 07:22:48 AM »

« Reply #724 on: July 05, 2008, 01:44:56 PM »SS

Mum and LaLa's - If we can figure out the name of Ernesto's mother (plus any possible additional marriages for her) and any other possible siblings through Robby's first marriage to Ernesto's mother, it might just throw open some big Florida doors.
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« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2008, 07:51:20 AM »

« Reply #725 on: July 05, 2008, 02:43:49 PM »SS

If Freddy's genealogy chart is correct, it would certainly explain why he claims to have been born in Maricaibo and Ernesto claimed to be from in a different location in Venezuela, when he was at Bradenton Prep.

« Reply #726 on: July 05, 2008, 06:56:54 PM »SS

Mum - I have been digging and I think that I can link all of our Arambatzis information together.

Mayra Arambatzis Ribiero Smalley (11/24/56) is the mother of Ernesto, according to what you found.  Her picture is below.  I don't have a maiden name.  It's possible that it's Prada.  She is connected to Nicholas and Editha because they are her former in-laws.  She was most likely Robby's first wife.

Nicholas and Editha (Perez?) are probably the parents of Robby and Julio Caesar (12/13/58).  It looks like Julio has been married twice - Tania M. Cordoza and Sandra Smith.  I don't know who D. Arambatzis is unless maybe another sibling of Robby.

If Victor Arambatzis is Mayra's son and vms has the proof, then he is also Robby's son and the full brother of Ernesto. Victor Manuel Arambatzis is married to Maria T.  I will make an Arambatzis chart.

I have also found a Claudia Arambatzis and a Cristina Arambatzis.  Cristina lives in Paris.  These two are most likely full sisters or cousins of Ernesto.

I have found some Zedan connections in Venezuela.  I have found Natasha Zedan, Johnny Enrique Zedan, Virginia A. Rahn Zedan, Silvia Zedan, Jorge Zedan, and Guillermo Zedan.  These Zedans look like they are Freddy's cousins, but it is possible that one or more could be a sibling of Freddy, a child of Lilian.  I also found possible cousins with the last names Auvert and Adudei.  These likely These likely cousins are in Venezuela and there are also Adudeis in Florida.

I have found a Pedro Rodriguez and there is a possibility that he could be Lilian's sibling.  I also found a Rebecca Zedan who could be Freddy's paternal grandmother.

I'm off to make a chart.   

« Reply #727 on: July 05, 2008, 07:05:04 PM »SS   
 
Victor Smalley, half-brother of Ernesto.


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« Reply #730 on: July 05, 2008, 08:37:54 PM »vms   
 
FWIW

In the mp3 recorded in April of 2004, Mayra said she came here 27 years ago, is a single mother, and that she has one child - fifteen. That would be Victor, IMO. She must be related to Ernesto as she is listed as his friend on his facebook, but I am not so sure she is his mother...

« Reply #731 on: July 05, 2008, 08:48:18 PM »vms   
 

Cristina Arambatzsis
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Details: Ernesto is in Cristina's extended family.


Also, notice the spelling of the last name for Christina and Claudia.


« Reply #732 on: July 05, 2008, 09:00:17 PM »SS   
 
vms and Mum - do you have the dates and details for the Victor Manuel Arambatzis and Maria T. marriage?  I'm having trouble figuring out where on the chart they belong.  One of them is probably a sibling of Robby.  I also need some help with Tina, Peter, and D., if you have any details.  Can you two also help me with where and when everyone in this clan was born?  This might help us figure out some more answers.  Thanks!

« Reply #733 on: July 05, 2008, 09:05:07 PM »SS

You could be right!  I was going on the information that you and Mum had identified her as Ernesto's mother.  She could very easily be Robby's sister, daughter of Nicholas and Editha.  What is the information that someone had saying she is Ernesto's mother?

« Reply #734 on: July 05, 2008, 09:27:17 PM »vms

I don't know. You'll have to ask Mum. She knows I am not convinced that Mayra is Ernesto's mother.   

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« Reply #735 on: July 05, 2008, 09:51:43 PM »SS-   

I changed the configuration so that Myra M. and Victor Manuel are now siblings of Robby.  This actually makes more sense because Myra says in the article that she only has one child which would be Victor.  She would now be Ernesto's aunt.  It also makes more sense because Myra's son could be named Victor for her brother, Victor.  See if this configuration better matches all of the information that we have.  Ernesto's mother is still unknown.-   

« Reply #736 on: July 05, 2008, 10:06:04 PM »vms
   
 SS, I don't know if this helps at all, other than connecting the Tennessee Arambatzis' to the Miami family. Mum is keeping all these records straight. I am   

Name of Deceased: Dorris Wayne Clinard Age at Death: 57  Birth Date: abt 1950 Death Date: 27 Jul 2007 Newspaper Title: Leaf-Chronicle, The  Newspaper Location: Clarksville, TN, Us Obituary Publication Date: 29 Jul 2007 Dorris ClinardDorris Wayne Clinard, 57, Clarksville, died Friday, July 27, 2007, at his residence.The funeral will be held at 3 p.m. today at Bethel Cumberland Presbyterian Church with the Rev. Tom Wilkins officiating.Burial will be in Sango Cemetery. Visitation will be from 1-3 p.m. today at Bethel Cumberland Presbyterian Church. Sykes Funeral Home is in charge of arrangements.He was known by his family and friends as a loving Christian husband, father and grandfather.He graduated from Clarksville High School in 1968. He served in the U.S. National Guard for six years. Mr. Clinard was employed at Level Valley Creamery in LaVergne, Tenn., for 25 years. He was an elder at Bethel Cumberland Presbyterian Church. He was also a Sunday School teacher and choir member.He was preceded in death by his father, Thomas Clinard. He is survived by his loving Christian wife of 38 years, Connie Clinard; son Chris Clinard and his wife Jemina and a granddaughter, Carson. He is also survived by his mother, Mary Irizarry and her husband Damaso Irizarry; two brothers James Clinard (Vicki) and Gordon Clinard (LaDonna); five step-sisters: Maria Arambatzis, Carmen (Randy) Grissom, Elisa (Scott) Graham, Sylvia Kelly, Elizabeth (Theran) Doll, and several nieces and nephews.Pallbearers will be James Clinard, Gordon Clinard, Rex Clinard, Matthew Sundstrom, Matthew Wallace, Jonathan Davidson. Honorary pallbearers will be members of the Adult Sunday School Class II.

« Reply #737 on: July 05, 2008, 10:17:30 PM »SS   

 vms - I am also thinking that Myra isn't Ernesto's mother.  When he was at Bradenton Prep, he listed his hometown as Porlamar and on one of his Facebkk or MySpace pages, he listed his hometown as Caracas.  This is probably where his mother is.  If Myra were his mother, he would have listed his home as Florida, because she was already living in Florida when she married Clarence Smalley in 1987.  I even wonder if Ernesto has actually ever lived with Lilian and Robby.  He doesn't seem to have many people from Aruba on his MySpace and Facebook sites.  Most of his friends seem to be from Florida or Venezuela.

« Reply #738 on: July 05, 2008, 10:27:32 PM »vms

Yeah, the absence of friends from Aruba on his facebook does make me wonder.I have seen two other references to "playa el agua" and "margarita" indicating he was there when he was young...


   





 





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« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2008, 07:54:47 AM »

Great work!

SS...I couldn't copy the charts...could you please bring them over...same as on Shango...only visible when logged in...
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« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2008, 11:41:22 AM »

Freddy's family...
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