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« Reply #100 on: June 26, 2008, 08:09:29 PM »

I still think there is something to the shoe. May not have been jorans, maybe it was "draury's", but I believe someone lost a shoe that night that held evidence.

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« Reply #101 on: June 26, 2008, 08:16:24 PM »

I still think there is something to the shoe. May not have been jorans, maybe it was "draury's", but I believe someone lost a shoe that night that held evidence.

Maybe they have DNA sample(s) from a shoe.  DNA does not match Natalee.

They have no match for the DNA.

Perhaps that is why they wanted DNA samples from J2K.  Perhaps that is why there was such a clamor to throw out the DNA samples from Joran.

So, is it possible after all this time, Joran might be a match for some DNA?

I never understood exactly why they wanted DNA at that point in time. 
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« Reply #102 on: June 26, 2008, 08:18:03 PM »

This is the name of the water sports company that rented the skis to Max and the Staceys.

Caribbean Aquatics N.V.

Yvonne says they were an illegal company an the authorities shut them down the next day.
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« Reply #103 on: June 26, 2008, 08:19:06 PM »

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« Reply #104 on: June 26, 2008, 08:20:11 PM »

Nothing is impossible and we will bend as far as possible to make you happy.


Truth in advertising, how refreshing!
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« Reply #105 on: June 26, 2008, 08:21:13 PM »

Wow!  You guys have been busy....Davin...David...


Shango Says: June 28th, 2005 at 1:55 am
Find the music
Only David left the den alive



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« Reply #106 on: June 26, 2008, 08:23:24 PM »

LaLa's - Shango would like to speak with you.
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« Reply #107 on: June 26, 2008, 08:27:14 PM »

J. My father knows absolutely nothing. My father has...he knows nothing about this... He doesn't know a thing about the whole event. That's the worst thing of all. That man would die, he wouldn't be able to cope with this. He couldn't even harm a fly. My father is weak.


Notice how he changes up tenses from past to present.

Notice how he stops and starts, stops and starts again.


Notice the repetition of denial.


This kid is so full of sh, he needs to call Scott Petersen to

come start hauling it. The two of them would make a KILLING,

literally.

I remember a certain youtube along these lines "I can't remember" or "I don't remember"...

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Joran van der Sloot Statements June 24, 2005

- that he know that if he would make a statement he could bring his father into trouble

- that his father suffers from bad memory and that because of that his and his fathers statements would not correspond

- that his father even can't remember what kind of clothes he himself wore the day before

- that only if his father, by way of his lawyer would say he should make a statement he would do so

- that he was waiting for the statement of his father and after that make another statement.
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« Reply #108 on: June 26, 2008, 08:27:41 PM »

This is the name of the water sports company that rented the skis to Max and the Staceys.

Caribbean Aquatics N.V.

Yvonne says they were an illegal company an the authorities shut them down the next day.

Looks like it's still open to me, or open again?

CARIBBEAN AQUATICS N.V.  
 
Business address GASPARITO 1, NOORD 
Legal form  LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY 
Name of the company  CARIBBEAN AQUATICS N.V. 
Statutory seat  ARUBA 
Date of incorporation  4 FEBRUARY 1999 
     
Authorized capital  ARUBAN FLORINS 50,000.00 
Issued capital  ARUBAN FLORINS 10,000.00 
Paid up capital  ARUBAN FLORINS 10,000.00 
Fiscal year  01 JANUARY thru 31 DECEMBER 
   
DIRECTORS - AUTHORIZED PERSONS AND CORPORATE BODIES - SUPERVISORY BOARD: 
 
HON-NG, WEI LIN;  
Residing in  GASPARITO 7-B, NOORD, ARUBA 
Born in  ARUBA on 9 JULY 1963 
Nationality  DUTCH 
Position  MANAGING DIRECTOR 
Effective  4 FEBRUARY 1999 
Authority  FULL 
   
OBJECTIVE(S) OF THE COMPANY 
 
HET EXPLOITEREN VAN EEN WATERSPORTBEDRIJF W.O. HET GEVEN VAN GELEGENHEID TOT EN VAN INSTRUCTIE IN DE BEOEFENING VAN ONDER EN BOVENWATERSPORTEN EN SPORTVISSERIJ. 


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« Reply #109 on: June 26, 2008, 08:30:38 PM »

Heres partial lyrics for that Joran song if you have ever wondered what it said.

Joran van der Sloot - Ik heb een boot
   
Joran van der Sloot - I have a boat

http://youtube.com/watch?v=4R-6S72l79Q

This is the text:

My name is Sloot, my name is Joran Joran van der sloot
and my friend who has a very beautiful boat

And then we fly to Aruban sea
and then I occasionally someone mee

A blonde girl and her name was hallow halloway
began to shake and I could not really account

I could not really nothing mee
so I dumped her in the high seas
But I say now that I really should not have done

It was my boyfriend with his boat and a banana.
I'm sure not done

After some porn in my bed far gone
And there we go again:

My name is Sloot, my name is Joran Joran van der sloot
and my friend who has a very beautiful boat

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« Reply #110 on: June 26, 2008, 08:36:22 PM »

Klassend, is Patrick's book in english??
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« Reply #111 on: June 26, 2008, 08:38:47 PM »

Klassend, is Patrick's book in english??

Not yet, right now it's in Dutch and being translated by a dutch poster at BFN who just purchased the book.  I do believe it's going to be published in English too at some time, just not yet.
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« Reply #112 on: June 26, 2008, 08:39:20 PM »

I still think there is something to the shoe. May not have been jorans, maybe it was "draury's", but I believe someone lost a shoe that night that held evidence.

Maybe they have DNA sample(s) from a shoe.  DNA does not match Natalee.

They have no match for the DNA.

Perhaps that is why they wanted DNA samples from J2K.  Perhaps that is why there was such a clamor to throw out the DNA samples from Joran.

So, is it possible after all this time, Joran might be a match for some DNA?

I never understood exactly why they wanted DNA at that point in time. 


don't get me started on the "dna samples" again...lol


Still bugs me that Dr. Phil discovery list says "blood sample comparisons"...which means they actually COMPARED MORE THAN ONE!!! sample of blood!!! Just whose were they???!!!

I promise...no more rants tonight!!!! lol   

Just can't figure out the shoes in my mind yet...but they won't go away!!!    lol

So does anyone have anything archived about what Beth said about the shoes? Wasn't that the sole reason for the draining of pond??!! They spent all that time and money if joran was wearing the shoes? Hope ALE was THAT dumb!!!
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« Reply #113 on: June 26, 2008, 08:43:02 PM »

TY Klassend!
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« Reply #114 on: June 26, 2008, 08:44:48 PM »

I still think there is something to the shoe. May not have been jorans, maybe it was "draury's", but I believe someone lost a shoe that night that held evidence.

Maybe they have DNA sample(s) from a shoe.  DNA does not match Natalee.

They have no match for the DNA.

Perhaps that is why they wanted DNA samples from J2K.  Perhaps that is why there was such a clamor to throw out the DNA samples from Joran.

So, is it possible after all this time, Joran might be a match for some DNA?

I never understood exactly why they wanted DNA at that point in time. 


don't get me started on the "dna samples" again...lol


Still bugs me that Dr. Phil discovery list says "blood sample comparisons"...which means they actually COMPARED MORE THAN ONE!!! sample of blood!!! Just whose were they???!!!

I promise...no more rants tonight!!!! lol   

Just can't figure out the shoes in my mind yet...but they won't go away!!!    lol

So does anyone have anything archived about what Beth said about the shoes? Wasn't that the sole reason for the draining of pond??!! They spent all that time and money if joran was wearing the shoes? Hope ALE was THAT dumb!!!

Here is the transcript from TiVo between Greta and Beth about the blood in the shoe.

Greta: One of the other things brought up in the article is that JVDS shoes have never been found. First of all do you kow anything about the shoes? Any particular significance to why they're looking for the shoes?

Beth: You know Greta now that you mention it I was looking through my journal and there was an update from an FBI official and also from our family liaison that in one of JVDS tennis shoes there was blood in his tennis shoe. I had written that down. I wish that I had been able to obtain more information as to what happened to that one shoe if that was truly blood in his shoe. You know Greta like I said we are just so limited in any type of information we can get.

Greta: Are you suggesting that they did find 1 of the pair of shoes and that they seized that?

Beth: Yes, when I was looking back through my notes there was a date where we received this information either from the FBI or our family liaison that there was blood in Joran's tennis shoe.

Greta: I suppose, of course if there is blood you would be out of your mind not to test the blood to see if it's JVDS blood or not. Do you know if they any testing was done on that shoe?

Beth: No, we don't know we never heard the results of any DNA, if we did hear it was 2 1/2 months later but we never heard anything definitive about the shoe.

Greta: I take it if you heard it was his blood then you would have recalled you got the final results. And let me see if I got this straight you can't recall getting any results on the blood in that shoe if indeed it was blood in the shoe?

Beth: No, it was only mentioned 1 time throughout my journal. Only once.


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« Reply #115 on: June 26, 2008, 08:46:20 PM »

Here ya go Lisa..Posted recently by Blonde..

Natalee Holloway Update: Missing Shoe
I've been informed that at a press conference today investigators have asked anyone that may have information as regards a sneaker - K-SWISS (White and Blue) size 14 possibly seen or found near the Marriott or the Fisherman's Hut area to please contact the Police.
Earlier reports have suggested that a search at the home of Joran Va der Sloot turned up a shoe which may have been covered with mud, or muck. The shoe had no match. The last bit of information hasn't been independently confirmed.
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2005/07/natalee_hollowa_91.htm


On 12-6 BETH told “FoxNews” that early in the investigation, the family was told by the ARUBAN police investigators that blood was found inside a 5-29/30-worn “K-Swiss” brand, size 14, tennis shoe that is predominantly white with some blue trim that belongs to Principal Suspect J. SLOOT that was taken into evidence (the other 5-29/30-worn “K-Swiss” brand, size 14 tennis shoe has--according to the ARUBAN police authorities--has never been found). The ARUBAN police investigators told the family that the found blood inside the tennis shoe taken into evidence would be forensically tested, but, to date, BETH said she does not recall for sure if the ARUBAN police investigators have ever reported about the results of any blood tests, nor have the DUTCH nor the ARUBANS even said if the blood tests have ever been completed on the shoe.

http://members.aol.com/worldJOURNIER/NATALEE/NATALEEtimeline.html

more on the missing shoe (s):

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8798488/

SCARBOROUGH: Explain to us about Joran van der Sloot‘s shoes and how that actually is now a part of this investigation.

KOSINSKI: Police have been pretty tightlipped about this. There have been rumors about them looking for a shoe in various places. Today, we know from police they‘re actually looking for a pair of sneakers, K-Swiss blue and white striped sneaker. We even know the size, size 14. So, they put out some detail there.

We know that, when they drained that field and pond, we‘d been told that they were looking for something like that, some evidence. They won‘t go so far as to tell us that they think these were lost on the night Natalee disappeared. But obviously they see them as having some potential evidentiary value because they‘ve been looking for them, they tell us, along beaches, other locations on this island. And they want those sneakers found.
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« Reply #116 on: June 26, 2008, 08:47:40 PM »


Joran again explains that he would never hurt a girl and

would rather kick a man that is doing harm to a girl.



RUN THROUGH THE GOOGLE

JORAN TO ENGLISH TRANSLATOR:


I'd very much rather poke my friend right in his tookus,

and then afterwards kick a girl!


OK I missed something.  Why would he say "kick" rather than hit or punch.
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« Reply #117 on: June 26, 2008, 08:50:44 PM »

Dec 15, 2005.....Beth Twitty:

...But as far as the letter goes, I just think that is something that really just—they could have addressed that personally.  I mean, I think we need to stay focused on the bloody tennis shoe that was found, the blood on the vehicle that was found and keep our focus on those types of criminal evidence and looking forward to a prosecuting attorney coming in, whoever this is from Curacao.  And I hope whoever this is will be received by the authorities there on the island well and also by the attorney general‘s office. ...

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« Reply #118 on: June 26, 2008, 08:51:30 PM »


Joran again explains that he would never hurt a girl and

would rather kick a man that is doing harm to a girl.



RUN THROUGH THE GOOGLE

JORAN TO ENGLISH TRANSLATOR:


I'd very much rather poke my friend right in his tookus,

and then afterwards kick a girl!


OK I missed something.  Why would he say "kick" rather than hit or punch.
I bet Dr. Hodges could answer that.
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« Reply #119 on: June 26, 2008, 08:55:20 PM »

The planned meeting with Daury doesn’t take place since Joran calls Patrick in the morning to explain that Daury had just left the country that day.

Joran provides some interesting details about Daury:
• He was only a year in NL
• Joran knows him since he was 5 years old (!)
• He has “business” that require him to fly between Aruba and NL
• He has people working for him and recently an American woman who works for him has been caught in possession of cocaine. Daury had freaked out, since he was very afraid she would talk.



All this is prime red meat, and should be checked out thoroughly.

Daury may or may not be imaginary, much like his flesh colored gherkin.

I don't believe the Daury story.  Daury is daddy. 
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