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« Reply #260 on: June 27, 2008, 12:32:20 PM »
Quote from: texasmom on June 27, 2008, 11:10:28 AM
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Quote from: private eye on June 27, 2008, 10:13:20 AM
Did the Monkeys ever get an answer to the analysis of the material found in the cage by the Persistence, but removed and secured by the Arubans? In Particular, the material that appeared to be blue denim?
Negative..Also,as you know the Persistence scanned the pond because of a credible tip before they left Aruba,it was chained off and drained but the OM denied it was ever searched.

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Natalee Holloway / Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers / Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know?  #3  on: May 05, 2008, 10:38:58 PM 
No, I have not.

But the light of the soccer field was on this whole weekend till 3:30 am in the morning, Today day are off. but it seems that this goup is here a week already they are the one that seal the area. Also Saterday night goining in sunday early morninng, sources said that they saw a lot new face in the are of Lekker.
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Natalee Holloway / Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers / Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #3  on: May 05, 2008, 09:49:42 PM 
Hi Monkeys,

News,

The area in question now is off limited to anyone. A steel chain from across road with a sign saying area prohibited.

The area have dried a lot but still a deep end with water in it. I went to see it yesterday and I could not have access anymore.
Another thing, today a group of CSI (52 in total ) arrived from holland are in Aruba to work on the case. (secret mission)

In news paper this week Nancy Grace in Aruba to do a film on the case.


More Later.
 

 

Texasmom

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Both Jossy Mansur and Art Wood implied on the Dana Pretzer show  that the draining of the pond was unrelated to the Natalee Holloway.  However Caps (above posts) and Kyle indicated otherwise.

IIRC ... the ALE claimed the draining of the pond was related the dissappearance of an Aruba (forget his name).

 

Does anybody know if any photos ever surfaced in the media/ internet of the activity encompassing the draining of the pond ... even from a distance?

Janet

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The Dana Pretzer Show On Scared Monkeys Radio - Wednesday, June 4, 2008 - Guests Include Clint Van Zandt, Art Wood and Jossy Mansur Discussing The Natalee Holloway Investigation 3 Years Later.

http://scaredmonkeysradio.com/2008/06/04/the-dana-pretzer-show-on-scared-monkeys-radio-listen-live-tonight-at-9pm-eastern-guests-include-clint-van-zandt-art-wood-discussing-the-natalee-holloway-investigation-3-years-later/

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Quote from: MumInOhio on May 16, 2008, 01:10:17 PM
OE ... do you know who has been/is searching the pond?  ALE?

Oceanexploration:
ALE, but there may have been others included.  We were asked to attend.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2844.msg381968#msg381968
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« Reply #261 on: June 27, 2008, 12:39:38 PM »
I have video of the feb. search...

The pond still had some water in it, 'cuz they were using

equipment out of a small boat.
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« Reply #262 on: June 27, 2008, 01:06:06 PM »
Quote from: carpe noctem on June 27, 2008, 12:39:38 PM
I have video of the feb. search...

The pond still had some water in it, 'cuz they were using

equipment out of a small boat.

Thanks carpe

I have access to a photo that was taken of a crew member in a small boat scanning the Monserat Pond prior to the Persistence leaving Aruba.

I was referring to the recent draining of the Monserat Pond ... the pond that Caps and Kyle is referring to.

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« Reply #263 on: June 27, 2008, 01:08:18 PM »
Janet,
I have not seen any pictures of the May activities at the pond.  Only pictures of the pond full of water.....and completely empty of water.  I believe the video that Carpe is referring to is when the Persistence crew scanned the pond right before leaving the island.  I have not seen any evidence that Texas Equusearch had been contacted regarding Carlos Tromp's disappearance before the February scanning of the pond.  I don't know what the scans of the pond showed....and have wondered if any findings may have been determined to have been from more recent activity than Natalee's disappearance in 2005.  I believe that someone "with authority" evaluated that pond during the days/nights that Caps and Oceanexploration referred to, and why this is being denied is beyond me. 











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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #264 on: June 27, 2008, 01:13:32 PM »
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I do not know how trustworthy you may consider me...but I promise you that pond was connected to the Natalee Holloway case.  I can't explain how and why and what the outcome has been.  You and everyone else here will just have to take my word for it. Have I ever said anything related to this case and used the words trust me that has been proven to be a lie?  Who or if anyone one actually drained that pond and found anything there I do not have that on any authority to say so, but the interest in that pond is the direct result of a connection in this case.  Unfortunately, it appears that nothing else is going to happen at this point. Maybe there was nothing there to be found.
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« Reply #265 on: June 27, 2008, 01:13:50 PM »
Quote from: texasmom on June 27, 2008, 01:08:18 PM
Janet,
I have not seen any pictures of the May activities at the pond.  Only pictures of the pond full of water.....and completely empty of water.  I believe the video that Carpe is referring to is when the Persistence crew scanned the pond right before leaving the island.  I have not seen any evidence that Texas Equusearch had been contacted regarding Carlos Tromp's disappearance before the February scanning of the pond.  I don't know what the scans of the pond showed....and have wondered if any findings may have been determined to have been from more recent activity than Natalee's disappearance in 2005.  I believe that someone "with authority" evaluated that pond during the days/nights that Caps and Oceanexploration referred to, and why this is being denied is beyond me. 












My opinion on the latest pond search:
1) The ALE LIES
2) Art Wood and Jossy are simply "out of the loop" on this one.
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« Reply #266 on: June 27, 2008, 01:14:07 PM »
Hmmmm

Janet,


I remember back about a week ago...

Senor Rob stumbled across tons of pics from Caps. (pic blog)

I wonder if that would contain some of the pics u may be looking for?
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« Reply #267 on: June 27, 2008, 01:16:58 PM »
 


ALE = ARUBAN LIE ENFORCEMENT
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« Reply #268 on: June 27, 2008, 01:18:21 PM »
Quote from: carpe noctem on June 27, 2008, 01:14:07 PM
Hmmmm

Janet,


I remember back about a week ago...

Senor Rob stumbled across tons of pics from Caps. (pic blog)

I wonder if that would contain some of the pics u may be looking for?
No, I don't think so.
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #269 on: June 27, 2008, 01:20:23 PM »
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ALE = ARUBAN LIE ENFORCEMENT

Excuse my English but:

Ain't that the truth!   
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #270 on: June 27, 2008, 01:28:32 PM »
Quote from: texasmom on June 27, 2008, 01:20:23 PM
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ALE = ARUBAN LIE ENFORCEMENT

Excuse my English but:

Ain't that the truth!   


They are DESPICABLE, every last one of them. I trust the Cub Scouts to do

a better job.

The Cub Scouts tell the truth.
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« Reply #271 on: June 27, 2008, 01:31:07 PM »
Thanks for the input all.

Well ... 10 year old grandson has been waiting patiently (?) for his "turn" on this computer to play some game.

 

Anyways ... I have lots to do.

Janet
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« Reply #272 on: June 27, 2008, 01:32:29 PM »
This is just my opinion...I believe Caps and OE 100%, they have no reason to lie or mislead anyone.  Both have dedicated much time and effort to find answers in this case.  I believe "something" of interest was located from the scan...I have no idea what....but there's been too much activity at that pond for the results to have been otherwise.

 
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #273 on: June 27, 2008, 01:40:38 PM »
LALA'S...Nanner basket Wink

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« Reply #274 on: June 27, 2008, 01:56:50 PM »
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« Reply #275 on: June 27, 2008, 02:04:20 PM »
O/T but it is slow today...
Has anyone ever noticed that if there is a fly that keeps buzzing around in the house annoying the heck out of you suddenly disappears when you grab the fly swatter? 
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« Reply #276 on: June 27, 2008, 02:10:33 PM »
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« Reply #277 on: June 27, 2008, 02:21:39 PM »
Quote from: Lala'sMom on June 27, 2008, 02:04:20 PM
O/T but it is slow today...
Has anyone ever noticed that if there is a fly that keeps buzzing around in the house annoying the heck out of you suddenly disappears when you grab the fly swatter? 


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« Reply #278 on: June 27, 2008, 02:27:09 PM »
Quote from: klaasend on June 27, 2008, 02:21:39 PM
Quote from: Lala'sMom on June 27, 2008, 02:04:20 PM
O/T but it is slow today...
Has anyone ever noticed that if there is a fly that keeps buzzing around in the house annoying the heck out of you suddenly disappears when you grab the fly swatter? 


YES   



 
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #279 on: June 27, 2008, 02:37:34 PM »
Sayyyyy mamaaaa, dat fly b. UG-UH-LY.    (SPLAT!)

She's so ugly, it requires an extra syllable!




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"The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first."Thomas Jeff
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