Natalee Case Discussion #762 6/30 - 7/6/08

[klaasend]

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Nice fonts Johan 

[klaasend]

If you keep repeating the same lie often enough, some people believe it 

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_43970.php

MEP: ‘2008 successful tourism year
30 Jun, 2008, 18:10 (GMT -04:00)

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ORANJESTAD – All the institution with tourism expertise on the island say that 2008 is going to be another successful year for the tourist industry. This is thanks to the dynamic policy of the Oduber-cabinet and the huge efforts of Minister Edison Briesen of Tourism and Transport.

MEP indicates that the government has fastened upon the reinforcement of this industry. Premier Nelson Oduber laid the basis for this by seeing to it that the project Plan Sasaki was implemented near Eagle- and Palm Beach. The MEP AND especially Minister Briesen was praised for all the good things they did in the tourism industry. Thanks to Briesen, the tourism on the island increased from 691.000 tourists in 2001 to 754.000 in 2007.

AHATA, ATA, and Aruba Airport Authority (AAA) confirmed that this year is going to be another success.
 

[KarmaRoundUp]

THIS RIGHT HERE, IS WHO IT'S ALL ABOUT!

DON'T EVER TAKE YOUR EYES OFF OF HER.





(unless you are Rob Smith from the AHATA - Rob, don't ever take your good eye off of her.)

:*(   I love this picture of sweet Natalee.

[KarmaRoundUp]

Good God.....that scared me half to death!
This image looks like it came from an interview I watched late one night back in 2005.Carpe,do you happen to know where it came from?I have been looking for that interview forever.

[Rob]

If you keep repeating the same lie often enough, some people believe it 

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_43970.php

MEP: ‘2008 successful tourism year
30 Jun, 2008, 18:10 (GMT -04:00)

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ORANJESTAD – All the institution with tourism expertise on the island say that 2008 is going to be another successful year for the tourist industry. This is thanks to the dynamic policy of the Oduber-cabinet and the huge efforts of Minister Edison Briesen of Tourism and Transport.

MEP indicates that the government has fastened upon the reinforcement of this industry. Premier Nelson Oduber laid the basis for this by seeing to it that the project Plan Sasaki was implemented near Eagle- and Palm Beach. The MEP AND especially Minister Briesen was praised for all the good things they did in the tourism industry. Thanks to Briesen, the tourism on the island increased from 691.000 tourists in 2001 to 754.000 in 2007.

AHATA, ATA, and Aruba Airport Authority (AAA) confirmed that this year is going to be another success.
 

Hi Klaas, I think I told you where I went last night... well anyway, our friend Kim, who went to Aruba a few times with us was there also, she said that the doctor she works for got married three weeks ago and they had the honeymoon on Aruba - guess what - no one in sight - the place was empty.

I wish I could have spoken to that doctor before he went, but that was the first I heard about it.

[texasmom]

What amazes me that it is sooooooo simple to know if they were in Aruba or not. When I fly internationally and come back they have my whole history on a screen, where I have gone, when I went and when I came back. A COMPLETE HISTORY. Just pull there records and viola they were either there or not. Now speaking of Aruba thier logs probably are handwritten manuals written in pencil when it comes to the Sloots and u just know that so someone spilled coffee on them and smeared the lead.

San…...I am undecided…
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This is what I have saved from a few discussions of the subject here at SM.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2804.msg377353

 Re: Natalee Case Discussion #749 4/24 -
« Reply #276 on: April 26, 2008, 11:09:58 AM » 

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Flight discussion:

Quote from: "wreck"
Quote from: "WidgetTheMidget"
Quote from: "justinsmama"
Quote from: "WidgetTheMidget"
Quote from: "justinsmama"
Widget~ Hey! Can you clarify exactly what info you gleaned about Anita's flight back to Aruba in June 2005?


Hey Justins .......

3 Vander Sloots Landed In Aruba On June 1st .................

 Rolling Eyes
 You got actual confirmation that it was 3 vds?


Yes And I Also Heard It Was Passed On To The FBI

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1173.msg171129#msg171129

More on this from the archives:
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=251.820
 Natalee Holloway / LCD Archive / Lively Case Discussion #515 8/21 - 8/24/2006  on: August 23, 2006, 11:19:51 PM 
Quote from: "anidac"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "anidac"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Carnut"
Just like Karr can be shown to be a lier if proof can be found he was home on Dec 25th, PVDS could be shown to be a lier if proof could be found that the munchkins were in Holland with momma.


Good point Carnut!


Just butting in to shore my 2 cents here....  Prior to 9/11 one could find passanger lists online.  Those days are gone.

Widget claims he was able to and that Anita and 2 other Sloots returned on June 2nd, or was it June 1st.  Anyway..that's what he said.


Now that you mention it I believe I had some luck finding partial information back when we where looking for flight schedules but if my memory serves me correctly I was only able to find ticket numbers without names.


Oops assigned seats where also included.

[klaasend]

If you keep repeating the same lie often enough, some people believe it 

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_43970.php

MEP: ‘2008 successful tourism year
30 Jun, 2008, 18:10 (GMT -04:00)

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ORANJESTAD – All the institution with tourism expertise on the island say that 2008 is going to be another successful year for the tourist industry. This is thanks to the dynamic policy of the Oduber-cabinet and the huge efforts of Minister Edison Briesen of Tourism and Transport.

MEP indicates that the government has fastened upon the reinforcement of this industry. Premier Nelson Oduber laid the basis for this by seeing to it that the project Plan Sasaki was implemented near Eagle- and Palm Beach. The MEP AND especially Minister Briesen was praised for all the good things they did in the tourism industry. Thanks to Briesen, the tourism on the island increased from 691.000 tourists in 2001 to 754.000 in 2007.

AHATA, ATA, and Aruba Airport Authority (AAA) confirmed that this year is going to be another success.
 

Hi Klaas, I think I told you where I went last night... well anyway, our friend Kim, who went to Aruba a few times with us was there also, she said that the doctor she works for got married three weeks ago and they had the honeymoon on Aruba - guess what - no one in sight - the place was empty.

I wish I could have spoken to that doctor before he went, but that was the first I heard about it.

Yes, I got your email, sorry I didn't get a chance to respond.  Hope you had a great time last night!  So your friend says the beaches are empty huh?  No surprise there! 

[Destiny]

  This would end his dreams of coming to the U.S. and going to college.


If Valentijn sets foot on US soil, he is one dead Van der sloot. IMHO

OOHHH Dear were not sure if he had anything to do with this case but be stuck being Joran's brother

he might not know anything.IMO

Sorry Blonde..but I do think/feel that Val *knew* something of that night.....He had the bathtub bomb on his myspace.....I don't think that Val was with Anita on her trip....I'm not even sure if Anita was off Aruba at that time....

[texasmom]

If you keep repeating the same lie often enough, some people believe it 

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_43970.php

MEP: ‘2008 successful tourism year
30 Jun, 2008, 18:10 (GMT -04:00)

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ORANJESTAD – All the institution with tourism expertise on the island say that 2008 is going to be another successful year for the tourist industry. This is thanks to the dynamic policy of the Oduber-cabinet and the huge efforts of Minister Edison Briesen of Tourism and Transport.

MEP indicates that the government has fastened upon the reinforcement of this industry. Premier Nelson Oduber laid the basis for this by seeing to it that the project Plan Sasaki was implemented near Eagle- and Palm Beach. The MEP AND especially Minister Briesen was praised for all the good things they did in the tourism industry. Thanks to Briesen, the tourism on the island increased from 691.000 tourists in 2001 to 754.000 in 2007.

AHATA, ATA, and Aruba Airport Authority (AAA) confirmed that this year is going to be another success.
 

Hi Klaas, I think I told you where I went last night... well anyway, our friend Kim, who went to Aruba a few times with us was there also, she said that the doctor she works for got married three weeks ago and they had the honeymoon on Aruba - guess what - no one in sight - the place was empty.

I wish I could have spoken to that doctor before he went, but that was the first I heard about it.

Yes, I got your email, sorry I didn't get a chance to respond.  Hope you had a great time last night!  So your friend says the beaches are empty huh?  No surprise there! 

Yes, I heard very recently from someone there that communicates with many of the people that actually work in the hotels, and they all say it is very slow.  Although the Minister of Tourism and the newspapers claim differently, the workers tell the real story.

[Rob]

Yes, I got your email, sorry I didn't get a chance to respond.  Hope you had a great time last night!  So your friend says the beaches are empty huh?  No surprise there! 

never a problem! I did have a great time! And he played Tattoo for me he he he!!! Played lots of Billy Joel, but that was to be expected. Some Jackson Browne, Beatles, even a Neil Diamond song for another friend of ours. LOL

Kim said that the doctor said - the place was empty. I assume that meant the beaches, the hotels, and the restaurants.

[wreck]

  This would end his dreams of coming to the U.S. and going to college.


If Valentijn sets foot on US soil, he is one dead Van der sloot. IMHO

OOHHH Dear were not sure if he had anything to do with this case but be stuck being Joran's brother

he might not know anything.IMO

Sorry Blonde..but I do think/feel that Val *knew* something of that night.....He had the bathtub bomb on his myspace.....I don't think that Val was with Anita on her trip....I'm not even sure if Anita was off Aruba at that time....

I think Val knows a lot. Right now, we simply don't have the evidence to totally blame him (and to wish his demise if he comes to the U.S.) That said, I ABSOLUTELY think Val needs to be "confronted" and made VERY uncomfortable here. Wishing/predicting his death in WAY out of line. IMO

[carpe noctem]

G'morning KarmaRoundUp!

I snagged that pic from Michelle Says So BOYCOTT ARUBA BLOG.

I blew it up, that's why it looks like that.

[Blonde]

Anita arrived back June 1st.


http://www.hollowaycase.com/archive/police_documents/pvds623.htm
PROCES VERBAAL

On June 23rd 2005, at approximately 14.30 hours, as a suspect, a man was interviewed who stated his name was: Paulus Antonius Petrus Johanna van der SLOOT, born in the Netherlands on February 15th 1952, judge (common court) and living at XXXXXXXX number XX on Aruba.


To your question when Anita left for the Netherlands, I can state the following. I cannot remember exactly but I think it was the Tuesday or Wednesday before that Monday the 30th of May that she departed for the Netherlands. Anita was in the Netherlands for seven or eight days.


Didn't someone confirm this from SM

[carpe noctem]

I've never been perfectly aligned Wreck, I'm a little bent.

...but it's all good.

[Dayhiker]

Yes, I got your email, sorry I didn't get a chance to respond.  Hope you had a great time last night!  So your friend says the beaches are empty huh?  No surprise there! 

Yes, I heard very recently from someone there that communicates with many of the people that actually work in the hotels, and they all say it is very slow.  Although the Minister of Tourism and the newspapers claim differently, the workers tell the real story.

Sasha posted on the FP that even the hot ticket hotels are only at 30% occupation level and that some are at 12%. ATA has not given stayover numbers since november. Why is that? They used to post them within 30-60 days.  If it were so great down in Aruba you'd think they'd be posting those big numbers wouldn't you?

Same thing that got them into this mess in the first place continues to haunt them today, and will to they are in their graves:

DENIAL.

[WhiskeyGirl]

What amazes me that it is sooooooo simple to know if they were in Aruba or not. When I fly internationally and come back they have my whole history on a screen, where I have gone, when I went and when I came back. A COMPLETE HISTORY. Just pull there records and viola they were either there or not. Now speaking of Aruba thier logs probably are handwritten manuals written in pencil when it comes to the Sloots and u just know that so someone spilled coffee on them and smeared the lead.

San…...I am undecided…
snip

snip

snip

This is what I have saved from a few discussions of the subject here at SM.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2804.msg377353

 Re: Natalee Case Discussion #749 4/24 -
« Reply #276 on: April 26, 2008, 11:09:58 AM » 

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Flight discussion:

Quote from: "wreck"
Quote from: "WidgetTheMidget"
Quote from: "justinsmama"
Quote from: "WidgetTheMidget"
Quote from: "justinsmama"
Widget~ Hey! Can you clarify exactly what info you gleaned about Anita's flight back to Aruba in June 2005?


Hey Justins .......

3 Vander Sloots Landed In Aruba On June 1st .................

 Rolling Eyes
 You got actual confirmation that it was 3 vds?


Yes And I Also Heard It Was Passed On To The FBI

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1173.msg171129#msg171129

More on this from the archives:
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=251.820
 Natalee Holloway / LCD Archive / Lively Case Discussion #515 8/21 - 8/24/2006  on: August 23, 2006, 11:19:51 PM 
Quote from: "anidac"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "anidac"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Carnut"
Just like Karr can be shown to be a lier if proof can be found he was home on Dec 25th, PVDS could be shown to be a lier if proof could be found that the munchkins were in Holland with momma.


Good point Carnut!


Just butting in to shore my 2 cents here....  Prior to 9/11 one could find passanger lists online.  Those days are gone.

Widget claims he was able to and that Anita and 2 other Sloots returned on June 2nd, or was it June 1st.  Anyway..that's what he said.


Now that you mention it I believe I had some luck finding partial information back when we where looking for flight schedules but if my memory serves me correctly I was only able to find ticket numbers without names.


Oops assigned seats where also included.

Could there have been van der Sloot relatives on the plane, maybe not the brothers?

Maybe someone wanted to spend the summer on Aruba with the VDS?

The incident with JVDS interrupted their vacation?

[Dayhiker]

Anita arrived back June 1st.


http://www.hollowaycase.com/archive/police_documents/pvds623.htm
PROCES VERBAAL

On June 23rd 2005, at approximately 14.30 hours, as a suspect, a man was interviewed who stated his name was: Paulus Antonius Petrus Johanna van der SLOOT, born in the Netherlands on February 15th 1952, judge (common court) and living at XXXXXXXX number XX on Aruba.


To your question when Anita left for the Netherlands, I can state the following. I cannot remember exactly but I think it was the Tuesday or Wednesday before that Monday the 30th of May that she departed for the Netherlands. Anita was in the Netherlands for seven or eight days.


Didn't someone confirm this from SM

Was Pustus turned down for a judgeship because of his bad memory? That must have been it!

[Dayhiker]

I think Val knows a lot. Right now, we simply don't have the evidence to totally blame him (and to wish his demise if he comes to the U.S.) That said, I ABSOLUTELY think Val needs to be "confronted" and made VERY uncomfortable here. Wishing/predicting his death in WAY out of line. IMO

Let's blame Val anyway. They try to blame Natalee and Beth for the Van der Sloot's crimes. Turnabout's fair play.

[Dayhiker]

Good God.....that scared me half to death!
This image looks like it came from an interview I watched late one night back in 2005.Carpe,do you happen to know where it came from?I have been looking for that interview forever.

GAAROSSS!!!!! Does this look like a squealing pig or what?

[texasmom]

What amazes me that it is sooooooo simple to know if they were in Aruba or not. When I fly internationally and come back they have my whole history on a screen, where I have gone, when I went and when I came back. A COMPLETE HISTORY. Just pull there records and viola they were either there or not. Now speaking of Aruba thier logs probably are handwritten manuals written in pencil when it comes to the Sloots and u just know that so someone spilled coffee on them and smeared the lead.

San…...I am undecided…
snip

snip

snip

This is what I have saved from a few discussions of the subject here at SM.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2804.msg377353

 Re: Natalee Case Discussion #749 4/24 -
« Reply #276 on: April 26, 2008, 11:09:58 AM » 

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Flight discussion:

Quote from: "wreck"
Quote from: "WidgetTheMidget"
Quote from: "justinsmama"
Quote from: "WidgetTheMidget"
Quote from: "justinsmama"
Widget~ Hey! Can you clarify exactly what info you gleaned about Anita's flight back to Aruba in June 2005?


Hey Justins .......

3 Vander Sloots Landed In Aruba On June 1st .................

 Rolling Eyes
 You got actual confirmation that it was 3 vds?


Yes And I Also Heard It Was Passed On To The FBI

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1173.msg171129#msg171129

More on this from the archives:
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=251.820
 Natalee Holloway / LCD Archive / Lively Case Discussion #515 8/21 - 8/24/2006  on: August 23, 2006, 11:19:51 PM 
Quote from: "anidac"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "anidac"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Carnut"
Just like Karr can be shown to be a lier if proof can be found he was home on Dec 25th, PVDS could be shown to be a lier if proof could be found that the munchkins were in Holland with momma.


Good point Carnut!


Just butting in to shore my 2 cents here....  Prior to 9/11 one could find passanger lists online.  Those days are gone.

Widget claims he was able to and that Anita and 2 other Sloots returned on June 2nd, or was it June 1st.  Anyway..that's what he said.


Now that you mention it I believe I had some luck finding partial information back when we where looking for flight schedules but if my memory serves me correctly I was only able to find ticket numbers without names.


Oops assigned seats where also included.

Could there have been van der Sloot relatives on the plane, maybe not the brothers?

Maybe someone wanted to spend the summer on Aruba with the VDS?

The incident with JVDS interrupted their vacation?

JMO, but I think that if the seats were assigned to anyone other than the immediate family it would have been stated in the information above.