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« on: July 05, 2008, 05:28:43 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2008, 05:29:44 PM »


What Does van der Straten Know About Natalee Holloway?

h/t to Hasibokus - read more there.

In a Dutch interview Aruban Police Superintendent Jan van der Straten told the reporter that he doesn’t believe that Natalee is still alive.

With regard to Natalee’s status, van der Straaten gave the following statement to a Dutch reporter:

Translation:

Rep: Any hopes for a positive outcome?

Jan: You always have to be hopeful, but I don’t believe anymore that we will find Natalee alive.

Rep: Why not?

Jan: Because I know the details of the investigation and you don't!

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What Does van der Straten Know About Natalee Holloway?
h/t to Hasibokus - read more there.

In a Dutch interview Aruban Police Superintendent Jan van der Straten told the reporter that he doesn’t believe that Natalee is still alive.

With regard to Natalee’s status, van der Straaten gave the following statement to a Dutch reporter:

Translation:

Rep: Any hopes for a positive outcome?

Jan: You always have to be hopeful, but I don’t believe anymore that we will find Natalee alive.

Rep: Why not?

Jan: Because I know the details of the investigation and you don't!

Update: Apparently the translation was first provided by reader repo.

Update2 from a reader:

The correct translation of what Mr. Van der Straten said, i.e., Omdat ik het
onderzoek ken en u niet, is: "Because I am an investigator (a policeman) and you
are not."

It is not, as earlier reported, "Because I know the details and you don't."
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« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2008, 05:31:05 PM »

Jan van der Straaten-Police Chief for the Aruba Police Department and close friend of Paulus van der Sloot . Jan van der Straten's role as lead investigator in the first two months of the Natalee Holloway case demonstrates the obvious conflicts of interest found in the Aruba investigation. Van der Straaten was, by Paulus van der Sloot's own public admission, a "close friend" of Van der Sloot and worked for PVDS years earlier. We know PVDS and JVDS were in constant contact during the Investigation and we know the bogus evidence that got the security guards arrested was by Gerald Dompig's brother-in law who also states he saw Natalee Holloway with cocaine. Both are definite flat out lies. Van der Straten would have been very instrumental in the decision not to arrest the three main suspects in Natalee's disappearance until 10 days after she vanished, even though he knew immediately that they lied about dropping the Alabama teen off at the Holiday Inn.Van der Straten would have also been involved in the decision to arrest two black security guards on June 5, 2005 which in effect prolonged the time given to the three suspects to cover their tracks and eliminate any evidence that should have been collected immediately upon the discovery of the Holiday Inn lie.Van der Straten stated to Dutch media on June 12, 2005 that he believed Natalee was no longer alive and when asked by the reporter why he would make such a comment he responded, "Because I know the evidence and you don't. Interestingly, two years later the lead investigator has never explained what that evidence is.He also made comment months after we were told he was retiring and moved to the neighboring island of Bonaire as he took the same title as Police Commissioner. He stated that the case should have been solved early on but that there were "people who didn't want to cooperate." Since suspects rarely cooperate, Van der Straten had to have been talking about a corrupt Aruban government and Dutch judiciary. Any high-ranking official with such a close relationship to a suspect's parent should have recused himself or alternately been forced off the case, but this is Aruba, a country in the grip of Mafia control who never saw a conflict of interest they didn't like.

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Van der Straaten arrives and tells Joran that he "has known your father for years. I only want to help you. I am going to see to it that you can go to Holland, that you will not have to go to jail, but that you will be committed to a mental institution. You only have to tell the truth."

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« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2008, 05:31:59 PM »

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UPDATE 24: Tuesday night during the broadcast of the most popular entertainment news program in The Netherlands, RTL-Boulevard, crime reporter John van den Heuvel announced that he talked to police commissioner Jan van der Straten, who is heading the investigation. The commissioner told van den Heuvel that they expect the case of Natalee Holloway to be solved within the next 24 hours.

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« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2008, 05:32:33 PM »

Deputy Police Chief Jan van der Straten said Holloway met van der Sloot in the casino attached to her hotel two days before she disappeared. Family friends say Holloway knew that van der Sloot had spent much of the week playing cards in the casino with a group of boys from the trip.

Employees at the Holiday Inn casino said van der Sloot and the Kalpoes were part of a group of young regulars at the poker tables. They also said teens from the Mountain Brook group visited often during their five-day trip, playing cards with the local boys and drinking heavily, sometimes before noon.

Brenda Bouwman, marketing manager for the casino, said everybody who worked there knew the Mountain Brook teenagers “because they were partying and they were loud.” She said Holloway was seen with a group at the blackjack tables on Sunday, May 29, although she did not think the girl was gambling.

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« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2008, 05:33:26 PM »

From Amigoe Friday 16 September 2005 :

We wonder why there was so much animosity between former police chief Jan van der Straten and PM Nelson Oduber, his cabinet and the Prosecutor’s office? One only needs to read this article from Amigoe to begin to wonder if the Natalee Holloway investigation was not one along party lines. The former police chief is a speaker at the AVP opposition party function making the following opinions:

“It is very important when a person like Van der Straten that knows the comings and goings in our society, gives such distress signals”.

With such an important investigation like the Natalee Holloway one going on while Van der Straten was the police chief one really does wonder about those so called “distress signals” and whether some one so recently close to the investigation need be making such comments.

ARUBA — During a gathering for the European-Dutch population on the island that was organized by opposition AVP in Club Havana earlier this week, former chief of police Jan van der Straten expressed heavy criticism on the ‘unprecedented pressure’ of the current government on the Public Prosecutor (OM) and the police. Reliable sources within the OM confirmed this situation.

The AVP invited Van der Straten as guest speaker. He used the occasion to talk about the enormous pressure that the Oduber-cabinet had put on the OM and the police in the past period of office. “Not only the system is under unprecedented pressure, but also individuals experience that pressure and are literally being threatened and fired. The government doesn’t even hesitate taking it to the lowest degenerated level.” He even gave a concrete example of intimidation that he experienced: “Isn’t it something when the Prime Minister gives the order to retrieve Van der Straten’s possessions and afterwards comment about these in public?” He didn’t want to go into details about what he called ‘examples where people’s privacy was invaded and where people are locked up because of their actions and expressions.”

Van der Straten says that the Oduber-cabinet won’t last: “The nation does not want a prime minister that has time for such matters. Short term thinking and short term actions are not in the interest of the nation and definitely do not contribute to the increase of the integrity. Oduber will not get the absolute majority and he will then get out. Those were his words, not mine.”

He also criticized the government’s security policy: “You don’t increase the safety in Aruba by giving everybody weapons. You don’t increase the safety by establishing shooting associations with an international character. You don’t increase the safety by throwing hunting methods at illegal persons, while you should have taken actions long before they got here. You don’t increase the safety by appointing people in the police corps that have not been screened enough. You don’t increase the safety by continuously undermining the authority of the Corps management with all sorts of memo’s of so-called advisors. You don’t increase the safety by calling police officers ’scouts’ and continuously undermining the confidence of the Corps. You increase the safety by taking a model position in the field of openness, honesty, integrity, vision, and decisiveness.”

AVP-leader Mike Eman thanked Van der Straten for giving his opinion: “It is very important when a person like Van der Straten that knows the comings and goings in our society, gives such distress signals. I think that we have to take this very serious and that we cannot continue like this. A radical change is necessary after September 23rd.
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« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2008, 05:37:00 PM »

Yes, it was van der Straaten who cried foul and withdrew any confession on behalf of Joran. These kids would NEVER have been allowed to confess regardless of when the confession might have been made.

Uncle Jan and Uncle Ben were there to see to it that no confessions were made even if they were if you follow. Van der Straaten admitted to other members of ALE that something bad happened and they took Joran to show them where.

But keep in mind Joran "confessed" that DEEPAK did it and "We buried her" near the fisherman's huts. Not much of a confession to confess that somebody else did it.

Anyway, van der Straaten did not have the notes transcribed until June 13 and by then, he had conferred with Paulus or whomever he was working in concert with and all that about who did what to Natalee was just missing from the transcription. But initially, van der Straaten said that the information could not be used because it was taken after too many hours of interrogation of Joran. I never understood if he meant too many hours on the clock or too many hours on Joran.

There will not be a record of Joran retracting any confession because Uncle Jan took care of it all for him. Evil or Very Mad

At least this is how I remember it and it was VERY interesting at the time. I was paying very close attention.



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« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2008, 05:41:49 PM »

Van Der Straaten opened his mouth too soon to the dutch press.She knew the layout of the VDS property and its obvious she has been there. In another post she described Jorans Apt being 5 feet away from the main bldg and the layout of the property.

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Vander straten informed ppress dutch…of al information and informed them that the case has been solved, and will give less htan 24 hours to announce the result…and aparently theirs many police that are moving towards area of marriott hotel completely CLOSED no one is allowed they are searchign something either them or the dogs are searchign somethign or if Natalee is here….it iis not known what is happeneing

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ok i have to say you guys have a totaly wrong view of the VDS social status...they have a small house nothgin big just a normal neighbor hood home, the pool is very recent about 3 months, they ahve 2 cars that are like 7 years old (in aruba people change cars every 4 to 5 years), none of the kids have their own cars, they are the cheapest poeple youll ver meet and i think the mother hasnt had new clothes since 2000 becuae ive seen her in the same thign since forever! they DO NOT have a yacht and much less a mansion! just do get our perspectives in place...oh and the HOnda belonged to the Kalpoe brothers, JORAN does NOT have a car! he cant even drive! you get your licnese at 18 here NOT 16


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« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2008, 05:48:39 PM »

On Friday, June 17, a fourth person, later identified as disc jockey Steve Gregory Croes, was also arrested. Van der Straten told the media that "Croes was detained based on information from one of the other three detainees."[29] On June 22 Aruban police detained Paulus van der Sloot, Joran van der Sloot's father, for questioning; Paulus van der Sloot was arrested that same day. Both Paulus van der Sloot and Croes were ordered to be released on June 26.[33]

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 On June 22 Aruban police detained Paulus van der Sloot, Joran van der Sloot's father, for questioning; Paulus van der Sloot was arrested that same day.
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« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2008, 05:49:38 PM »

Jan van der Straten was the initial Aruban police leader of the investigation. After Van der Straten's retirement, he moved in with his daughter to Bonaire Police Commissioner Gerold Dompig took over as the leader of the investigation. In April 2006 he was replaced by Adolpho (Dolfi) Richardson.
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« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2008, 06:09:32 PM »

*Of Note during this time period, Dennis Jacobs was hand picked to be the lead investigator on this Aruban case by Paulus Van Der Sloot’s (Joran Van Der Sloot’s father) best friend, Aruba Police Superintendent Jan van der stratten, despite Dennis Jacobs never having worked a murder or missing persons case.

Paulus Van Der Sloot was not only a lawyer, but a judge-in-training at the time his son Joran was the last person seen with Natalee Holloway.
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« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2008, 06:10:35 PM »

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AMSTERDAM - The politie chief of Bonaire wanted PVV-member of parliament Brinkman to have arrested if he would say unpleasant things about the Antilles on the island. "Brinkman is not impeded by knowledge of the Antilles, this man knows nothing about the Antilles," police chief Jan van der Straten said to the newspaper Amigoe. "If he made his comments on Bonaire, I would have a least attempted to arrest him for slandering the population", says police chief Van der Straten in the newspaper.

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Jan van der stratten as Chief of Police battled to control Natalee's remains. Possibly for as long as 10 days. He lost.

No body, no crime applied to the security guards too. But they had a body, Natalee's body.

Paulus got nervous with the plan and wouldn't go along with the Chief of Police, his friend Jan van der straaten. The epilepsy routine wouldn't work, even with the internet research Paulus had done on his computer while Natalee was ON HIS PROPERTY.

So Paulus got rid of Natalee, completely. He called the Police fools, as did the security guards.

When Van der straaten thought he had a body, he was charging the innocent guards with homicide. When they couldn't put the whole thing together (Beth just wouldn't "shut up") because in their world, Paulus's screwed up Jan's cover-up. Paulus knew the Law, "no body, no crime."

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« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2008, 08:40:32 PM »

Johan van Schagen is taking command of the police force on Bonaire.
he took over from Jan van der Straten.

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/printer_44145.php


(Van der Straten on the right)

Van der Straten had a few advisories to the new police chief: 'make fast and clear decisions, especially regarding integrity".
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« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2008, 10:54:11 PM »

http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/2005/06/04/missing-teen-in-aruba-part-ii/

Natalee Holloway: Teen Still Missing in Aruba, Part II
There still has been no word on the missing teen, Natalee Holloway, who disappeared the last night of a trip to Aruba celebrating her graduation from high school.

Video via NBC13 Miami

Description of Natalee Ann Holloway

Holloway came to Aruba for a five-day excursion with 124 seniors and 40 chaperons from Mountain Brook High School, near Birmingham, Ala. She was last seen around 2 a.m. Monday, Attorney General Caren Janssen said Thursday.

Four days later, the Alabama teenager is still missing, despite an extensive search of the Dutch Caribbean island.

“Honestly, at the beginning, we were hopeful the girl would come back,” said police Superintendent Jan van der Straaten. “Today, we are more and more thinking about the possibility of a crime.”
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Dutch newswire this morning (CET) reports that the dutch government sent two ‘experts’ to Aruba. The JD refused to elaborate on the field of expertise. Policechief Jan van der Straten: ‘’Because we don’t want people to guess where this investigation is heading'’. According to Van der Straaten they will do very detailled work and didn’t bring search and rescuedogs.

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« Reply #17 on: July 07, 2008, 07:04:33 PM »

NANCY GRACE for Thursday, June 2, 2005, CNNHN

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But first, an urgent request for your help tonight. This beautiful Alabama girl leaves on her senior trip to Aruba and disappears. Natalee Ann Holloway, last seen driving away from a local nightclub. FBI and local police have questioned a man she befriended at the bar. His car is in FBI custody tonight.

Holloway`s family distraught, traveling to Aruba to search for their girl themselves. Tonight, with us on the phone from Aruba, Police Commissioner Jan Van Derstraten; in Santa Maria, California, defense attorney Debra Opri; in New York, defense attorney Richard Herman; and psychologist Dr. Jeff Gardere.

But first, let`s go to Birmingham, Alabama. Standing by, WBRC reporter Tiffany Bittner. Tiffany, what happened?

TIFFANY BITTNER, WBRC REPORTER COVERING STORY: Well, Nancy, what we`ve learned so far is Natalee`s mother, Beth Twitty, says that her daughter was along with 150 other classmates from Mountain Brook High School on a senior trip to Aruba. When her classmates returned on Monday, Natalee didn`t.

Her mother rushed down to Aruba on a jet and says that she`s been searching countless hours looking for her daughter. Now, we understand that her mom says that her daughter was last seen leaving a local nightclub around 1:30 a.m. Monday morning with three locals and has not been seen since.

GRACE: Let me go to Aruba District Police commissioner Jan Van Derstraten.

Welcome, Commissioner. Thank you for being with us. Sir...

JAN VAN DERSTRATEN, ARUBA DISTRICT POLICE: Good evening.

GRACE: ... could you tell me about the men that were seen with Natalee last? What has become of them? I understand they have been questioned and released.

DERSTRATEN: No, no, that`s not the question. The police started an investigation. And the police have to do investigation and has a search Tuesday morning, a search with helicopters. And we started -- today, we did a big search with a lot of people with the Dutch marine, too, and with the coast guard, tried to find the girl.

And the family was here, too. We talked with the mother. Everyday we talk with the mother. And we talk -- it was true that the young girl was in a nightclub together with other young people, young boys, local boys. And they were together.

And the investigation team (UNINTELLIGIBLE) as witnesses, and that`s the reason why we talked with them. That`s the law in Aruba, that if you talk with witnesses, they are not suspects.

GRACE: Commissioner Jan Van Derstraten with us. Commissioner, what did the men tell you that Natalee left the club with?

DERSTRATEN: No, they left the club about 2 o`clock, 1 o`clock, 1:30, and they were together in a car. And the girl met the other boys of the school who are in the Holiday Inn. And the girl said, "I go to take a trip over to Aruba," and the boys were together. And the boys told us that they bring the girl back about 2 o`clock in the morning to the hotel.

GRACE: Back to Tiffany Bittner, WBRC reporter. Her parents are now in Aruba. You mentioned her mother. What about her father?

BITTNER: Well, we understand that both her mother and her stepfather are in Aruba, as well as her father, who we believe is from Mississippi. They`re all down there, of course, in the search.

And I wanted to tell you, Nancy, I talked to Natalee`s uncle, Paul Reynolds (ph), today by phone. He, too, is in Aruba searching for Natalee. He says that the locals there have been amazing, pouring out their support in helping to search for Natalee.

He says they`ve even got the military involved in looking for her. They`re going about putting posters up, asking anyone if they have seen 18- year-old Natalee Holloway.

GRACE: Tiffany Bittner, it`s my understanding there are only about 70,000 people that live on the entire island. How big is it?

BITTNER: Say this one more time. I`m sorry.

GRACE: I understand that there are only about 70,000 people that live on the island of Aruba. How big is the island?

BITTNER: Well, I`m not exactly -- I`ve been there once. I don`t know the dimensions of the island. It`s not very big. You can cover it, I know, in a day by car. So it`s not very large.

GRACE: We`re looking at a picture right now. It`s almost 20 miles long, six miles across.

Back to Commissioner Jan Van Derstraten. Commissioner, are you looking, searching in any particular area?

DERSTRATEN: Yes, we are looking on the west point by the lighthouse. You can see that maybe on the map. But other than that we are searching today with the marine and with the coast guard, too.

And yes, we are looking the last three days. The family brought a lot of flyers to gasoline stations and other buildings (UNINTELLIGIBLE) and they give tips to the investigation team. And the investigation, up until now, we don`t find the girl.

GRACE: Are you convinced that she ever made it to her hotel, Commissioner?

DERSTRATEN: Yes, that`s part of the investigation. I hope you can understand that, because the impact on the island is very great, big for us, because, yes, you know, we are a happy island, but we are a safety island. And we have a low crime rate. So everyone is in force now to look and to search for the girl.

GRACE: Take a listen to this.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

MARCIA TWITTY, AUNT OF MISSING GIRL: ... that there is just this outpour of support up here for her, and that`s keeping her going down there.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: Commissioner Jan Van Derstraten is with us from Aruba. Commissioner, when exactly was she reported missing?

DERSTRATEN: She was reported missing on Monday morning.

GRACE: Monday morning. Let me go back to Tiffany...

DERSTRATEN: Yes (UNINTELLIGIBLE) police.

GRACE: Tiffany Bittner with us, WBRC reporter. She was reported missing on Monday. When was she at the nightclub, Tiffany?

BITTNER: Well, we were understanding that she was reported missing -- or the last seen -- place where she was last seen was around 1:30 a.m. at a club called Carlos & Charlie`s. And of course, this is according to her mom, she was seen there leaving with three locals.

GRACE: OK. I`m sorry, Tiffany, what night was that?

BITTNER: That was Monday night, early Memorial Day.

GRACE: OK, back to Commissioner Jan Van Derstraten. Commissioner, about these young men that you interviewed, they are not suspects at this juncture?

DERSTRATEN: Until now. Until now they are not suspects, no.

GRACE: They had told they dropped her off at her hotel. I believe it was the Holiday Inn there in Aruba. Do either of them have a criminal record?

DERSTRATEN: No, there are no criminal records for them. Young people -- they are going to school. And young people on the same -- from the same age, yes, certainly.

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« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2008, 09:56:53 AM »

I'm not 100% sure if this is his son, I will delete it if it's not.

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« Reply #19 on: July 08, 2008, 07:50:12 PM »

Van der Straten
Police Chief, change of command
Written by amigoe.com
Monday, 07 July 2008 16:20
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KRALENDIJK – the former chief of police Jan van Straten had a list of recommendations for his successor Johan Schagen at the Police Corps Bonaire change of command yesterday.

Communication, towards the people as well as internally; confidence in the members of the corps and the staff members is very important. “Conduct administrative prevention to protect administrators of the island against people that come from the Netherlands and do not wait till the OM take actions.”

“Take clear and quick decisions, definitely in the sphere of integrity. Work the existing projects further out, like the complaints department. Keep the Bonerian corps and Bonerian colleagues as is. Bonaire is a unique island, keep it as such.”

Van der Straten wished Schagen a lot of success.

Van der Straten left the corps of Bonaire in January, after two years. The local head of police, Lt. Governor Herbert Domacassé and Justice-minister David Dick (PAR) thanked him for his method of managing the corps. The media criticized the arrival of Jan one or two months before he actually arrived, and now that he is leaving, nobody wants him to leave, said Dick.

The new chief of police, Johan Schagen is from the Netherlands and says that he came to Bonaire, because together with his family, he has been traveling the world with a backpack. “That’s how we get to know the world and other cultures.

When the opportunity to become the chief of police in Bonaire presented itself, it was not just a challenge to work on an island within the Kingdom, but also true interest in another culture.

I also prefer a smaller corps. To me that is a challenge, because a small corps is very conveniently arranged. Everybody in that corps is important. I am a person that loves working together and transparency.

I’m going to work together with everybody and with the media, I’ll take up the challenge to give very good information in a transparent manner and in the interest of the people of Bonaire.”

POLITICAL REALITY

It is also a political reality that we are going to be a BES-corps. We can’t wait six months for that; we will have to take the first steps, which means that we need to start from the beginning. I don’t know yet how, but it must become a corps, in which a citizen in St. Eustatius and Saba is as important as one in Bonaire.”

The minister of Justice describes Schagen as a person with a good resume, with experience in several departments and the union, and he is not old.

Schagen goes to the other islands next week and will establish in Bonaire with his family effective August 1. The new chief of police Johan Schagen (l) next to the former chief of police Jan van der Straten.

PHOTO: The new chief of police Johan Schagen (l) next to the former chief of police Jan van der Straten.

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