Natalee Case Discussion #763 7/6 - 7/11

[johan555]

for me it's beyond obvious what's going on here. The Dutch (take no offense caesu and Johan) do not care about Aruba. It's only the Judiciary they really care about. It's the ability to launch get outta jail free cards in the direction of their buddies. It is a land where crimes can be committed by the Dutch but no serious jail time enters the picture. The secret is out now.

If they truly cared, they would clean that entire island up before more tourists are disappeared. Few tourists mean fewer targets, but those still going increase their chances of being assaulted due to the mathematics of it all.

ROB :
Aruba is an island where anything is possible, 10% of people are addicted.
Corrupt governance, corrupt judges, corrupt lawyers etc .
The Netherlands paid an enormous amount of money each year to that club there, millions of euros.
No where in the world are so many casinos and Aruba.
money laundering practices, murders.
If there are people suddenly disappear as Max the Vries (a 12 years old boy ) they do nothing, no investigation! CRAZY!!
Do you think the Netherlands happy with a country like Aruba?I am not
We pay Tax  here for their party .

[Rob]

Heya BB!  yes this article even makes me think back to the summer of 05 when Beth was on the island ...the man who was following her...the phone call from Posner (I think it was him), her phones being tapped..and the reason for changing hotels. 

Also, I think if one looks at the "issues" the Bethhaters continiously to this day, make such a big deal of...it gives you a little insight into who or what is behind them....

Hey,
I too recall Beth saying she got a threatening phone call asking when was she planning on leaving Aruba. don't recall if it was from Posner, but she did seem to feel threatened by him.

BB- HI

IIRC Jug indicated someone urinated in Beth's food at the Holiday Inn and she may have been stalked / followed near the Wyndham. I'm not totally sure where the "following" occurred. I seem to remember in an alley way near the Wyndham, but I could be wrong.

[Rob]

I think regio Nijmegen caesu

Van Deutekom 1995
Van Deutekom, F. A. P. M., 'Heenzenden', in: Balkema, J.P. (red.), Dynamisch strafrecht.
Opstellen ter gelegenheid van het afscheid van Prof. mr. G.J.M. Corstens van de Katholieke
Universiteit Nijmegen.

Johan, does this mean a Catholic school? The Sloots were Catholic until Anita changed to Buddhism. They were / are members of the Santa Ana Church in Noord.

[caesu]

I think regio Nijmegen caesu

Van Deutekom 1995
Van Deutekom, F. A. P. M., 'Heenzenden', in: Balkema, J.P. (red.), Dynamisch strafrecht.
Opstellen ter gelegenheid van het afscheid van Prof. mr. G.J.M. Corstens van de Katholieke
Universiteit Nijmegen.

Caesu and Johan…Caps posted  once that he was from Germany…I am looking for that post…Trying to put  all the posts together and will post them in a thread and see what we have. It was discussed in the Shango thread and IIRC also on the Natalee Discussion thread a little while back. Hopefully will be done in the morning!

i think i knows where this comes from.
there is reference to a book of him in german.
but this could be translation to german or a translated title.
'van deutekom' is a very dutch name.

Deutekom, F. van, De franse executierechter, Sancties, 1993, p. 288-289; F. van Deutekom, Der Vollzugsrichter in den Niederlanden und Deutschland in rechgsvergleichender Sicht, Zeitschrift for Strafvollzug und Straffälligenhilfe, 1992, p. 217-223.

http://www.ejcl.org/64/art64-27.html

[Rob]

for me it's beyond obvious what's going on here. The Dutch (take no offense caesu and Johan) do not care about Aruba. It's only the Judiciary they really care about. It's the ability to launch get outta jail free cards in the direction of their buddies. It is a land where crimes can be committed by the Dutch but no serious jail time enters the picture. The secret is out now.

If they truly cared, they would clean that entire island up before more tourists are disappeared. Few tourists mean fewer targets, but those still going increase their chances of being assaulted due to the mathematics of it all.

ROB :
Aruba is an island where anything is possible, 10% of people are addicted.
Corrupt governance, corrupt judges, corrupt lawyers etc .
The Netherlands paid an enormous amount of money each year to that club there, millions of euros.
No where in the world are so many casinos and Aruba.
money laundering practices, murders.
If there are people suddenly disappear as Max the Vries (a 12 years old boy ) they do nothing, no investigation! CRAZY!!
Do you think the Netherlands happy with a country like Aruba?I am not
We pay Tax  here for their party .

Johan your dedication to this forum is ample *proef* that you do not condone what is occurring daily on Aruba. Your view is well know by moi!

Paying taxes for what is happening there is like rubbing salt in a wound! and paying some of the highest taxes in all of Europe and then knowing that Aruba is flushing it down the toilet has got to be very frustrating.

[caesu]

I think regio Nijmegen caesu

Van Deutekom 1995
Van Deutekom, F. A. P. M., 'Heenzenden', in: Balkema, J.P. (red.), Dynamisch strafrecht.
Opstellen ter gelegenheid van het afscheid van Prof. mr. G.J.M. Corstens van de Katholieke
Universiteit Nijmegen.

Johan, does this mean a Catholic school? The Sloots were Catholic until Anita changed to Buddhism. They were / are members of the Santa Ana Church in Noord.

yes, that's a catholic university. now it is called Radboud University Nijmegen.

PvdS studied at Catholic University Brabant. now called Tilburg University.
Hirsch Ballin studied also there. these are very large universities.

[wreck]

I think regio Nijmegen caesu

Van Deutekom 1995
Van Deutekom, F. A. P. M., 'Heenzenden', in: Balkema, J.P. (red.), Dynamisch strafrecht.
Opstellen ter gelegenheid van het afscheid van Prof. mr. G.J.M. Corstens van de Katholieke
Universiteit Nijmegen.

Johan, does this mean a Catholic school? The Sloots were Catholic until Anita changed to Buddhism. They were / are members of the Santa Ana Church in Noord.

Anita looks like a dead-ringer for Buddha himself.

[johan555]

I think regio Nijmegen caesu

Van Deutekom 1995
Van Deutekom, F. A. P. M., 'Heenzenden', in: Balkema, J.P. (red.), Dynamisch strafrecht.
Opstellen ter gelegenheid van het afscheid van Prof. mr. G.J.M. Corstens van de Katholieke
Universiteit Nijmegen.

Caesu and Johan…Caps posted  once that he was from Germany…I am looking for that post…Trying to put  all the posts together and will post them in a thread and see what we have. It was discussed in the Shango thread and IIRC also on the Natalee Discussion thread a little while back. Hopefully will be done in the morning!

i think i knows where this comes from.
there is reference to a book of him in german.
but this could be translation to german or a translated title.
'van deutekom' is a very dutch name.

Deutekom, F. van, De franse executierechter, Sancties, 1993, p. 288-289; F. van Deutekom, Der Vollzugsrichter in den Niederlanden und Deutschland in rechgsvergleichender Sicht, Zeitschrift for Strafvollzug und Straffälligenhilfe, 1992, p. 217-223.

http://www.ejcl.org/64/art64-27.html

and this one caesu dan full search on his name .
http://files.rechtennieuws.nl/files/Grondslagen%20van%20het%20opportuniteitsbeginsel%20WENT%20269801.pdf

[johan555]

Anita changed to Buddhism?????[/color]

[caesu]

for me it's beyond obvious what's going on here. The Dutch (take no offense caesu and Johan) do not care about Aruba. It's only the Judiciary they really care about. It's the ability to launch get outta jail free cards in the direction of their buddies. It is a land where crimes can be committed by the Dutch but no serious jail time enters the picture. The secret is out now.

If they truly cared, they would clean that entire island up before more tourists are disappeared. Few tourists mean fewer targets, but those still going increase their chances of being assaulted due to the mathematics of it all.

ROB :
Aruba is an island where anything is possible, 10% of people are addicted.
Corrupt governance, corrupt judges, corrupt lawyers etc .
The Netherlands paid an enormous amount of money each year to that club there, millions of euros.
No where in the world are so many casinos and Aruba.
money laundering practices, murders.
If there are people suddenly disappear as Max the Vries (a 12 years old boy ) they do nothing, no investigation! CRAZY!!
Do you think the Netherlands happy with a country like Aruba?I am not
We pay Tax  here for their party .

Johan your dedication to this forum is ample *proef* that you do not condone what is occurring daily on Aruba. Your view is well know by moi!

Paying taxes for what is happening there is like rubbing salt in a wound! and paying some of the highest taxes in all of Europe and then knowing that Aruba is flushing it down the toilet has got to be very frustrating.

thanks to Hero Brinkman and the PVV the attitude towards Aruba/Antilles is going to change.
even the government (Bijleveld) is slowly starting to swift towards the PVV.

after the summer recess, there is going to be a debate about the corruption on the Antilles/Aruba.
officially not because of Brinkman's maffia-report. but undoubtely it is because of that.
the government parties are trying to take this issue over from the PVV.
because the majority of the public agrees with the PVV on this issue.

the governments of the islands really have to make up their minds quick now, if they don't want to be sold (to the UK, France, Venezuela, USA?) or loose their independent status entirely like what is going to happen to Saba, St. Eustatius and Bonaire.
after the next dutch election in 2010 or earlier the parties fed up with the islands will win big.
might be that the other parties will make the PVV stance their stance, because they see it is popular.

[caesu]

most likely Frans van Deutekom was born in 1956.
was at school in Deurne, St. Willibrord school. 1963-1971.
not far from Nijmegen.

found this on Schoolbank (signing up is required).
http://www.schoolbank.nl/klasgenoot/frans-van-deutekom/1810618020

[johan555]

most likely Frans van Deutekom was born in 1956.
was at school in Deurne, St. Willibrord school. 1963-1971.
not far from Nijmegen.

found this on Schoolbank (signing up is required).
http://www.schoolbank.nl/klasgenoot/frans-van-deutekom/1810618020

HAHA yes i saw that also  are you  a member there Caesu ?

[Blonde]

I think regio Nijmegen caesu

Van Deutekom 1995
Van Deutekom, F. A. P. M., 'Heenzenden', in: Balkema, J.P. (red.), Dynamisch strafrecht.
Opstellen ter gelegenheid van het afscheid van Prof. mr. G.J.M. Corstens van de Katholieke
Universiteit Nijmegen.

Caesu and Johan…Caps posted  once that he was from Germany…I am looking for that post…Trying to put  all the posts together and will post them in a thread and see what we have. It was discussed in the Shango thread and IIRC also on the Natalee Discussion thread a little while back. Hopefully will be done in the morning!

Mum are you sure I did a search for you on  Germany and nothing came up with Caps name on it

[always 1]

In the Shango and Simion post, they are talking about Dirty Hand and CAPS says "The Pubic Prosectuor is always hidden.  How do I know that?  The Aircondition man knows."  What does that mean?

[caesu]

most likely Frans van Deutekom was born in 1956.
was at school in Deurne, St. Willibrord school. 1963-1971.
not far from Nijmegen.

found this on Schoolbank (signing up is required).
http://www.schoolbank.nl/klasgenoot/frans-van-deutekom/1810618020

HAHA yes i saw that also  are you  a member there Caesu ?

sometimes i sign up to some made up school just to have a look. 

found another site old classmates of the St. Willibrord school:
http://projects.firstsoftware.nl/script/vriewill2.exe/email2?aanl33815474300000019047
you can send Deutekom an e-mail here.

it is a gymnasium, that's requirement to enter University. and it is near Nijmegen.
and the year of birth adds up (1956). so most likely it is him.

[SS]

Triple murder case against Lampe postponed
July 5, 2008, 17:16 (GMT -04:00)


Eugene Lampe, suspected of the murder of his father, mother and brother, probably next month to Canada for a psychiatric examination.

ORANJESTAD - Eugene Lampe (29) is likely next month to Canada for a psychiatric examination by the Pieter Baan Centre. The Public Prosecutor (OM) early yesterday during the pro forma session adjournment pending the outcome of this investigation. The lawyer Lampe, Chris Lejeuz, made no objection to this request. The judge has postponed the case until 7 november. On the basis of the investigation by an independent psychiatrist (s) - Lampe had already been previously handled by the only psychiatrist on this island want to know if justice Lampe toerekeningsvatbaar when he was probably his father, mother and brother on 4 april This year brought to life.

The case did many eyebrows by the way the murders were committed and also because the suspect then tried to burn the bodies. The OM suspects that Lampe has committed the murders because his parents wanted him under curatorship. He had been a long-time personal problems, among other things because of his drug addiction.

Why are his handcuffs in the front, instead of the back? 

[Blonde]

I think regio Nijmegen caesu

Van Deutekom 1995
Van Deutekom, F. A. P. M., 'Heenzenden', in: Balkema, J.P. (red.), Dynamisch strafrecht.
Opstellen ter gelegenheid van het afscheid van Prof. mr. G.J.M. Corstens van de Katholieke
Universiteit Nijmegen.

Caesu and Johan…Caps posted  once that he was from Germany…I am looking for that post…Trying to put  all the posts together and will post them in a thread and see what we have. It was discussed in the Shango thread and IIRC also on the Natalee Discussion thread a little while back. Hopefully will be done in the morning!

Caps (I had this saved)

Yes, Frans Duetekom, mistery man in the OM pulling the King string. Now he work with MOS and I do think they are watching how far the monkeys can get on finding the killers and for them to come with an other story. I know he is there, becuase Isaw him on TV. Some said that he was not in Aruba, but on the night of Hendrick croes, there he was. For Hendrick to be checking out of kia that night, is the work of Duetekom. BTW there is also rumors that Vonking was a Judge before a scandal that got him off the bench. ending up in Aruba but need to be checked this out.


Merian sayif there will ever be an end to this story.

[SS]

I think regio Nijmegen caesu

Van Deutekom 1995
Van Deutekom, F. A. P. M., 'Heenzenden', in: Balkema, J.P. (red.), Dynamisch strafrecht.
Opstellen ter gelegenheid van het afscheid van Prof. mr. G.J.M. Corstens van de Katholieke
Universiteit Nijmegen.

Caesu and Johan…Caps posted  once that he was from Germany…I am looking for that post…Trying to put  all the posts together and will post them in a thread and see what we have. It was discussed in the Shango thread and IIRC also on the Natalee Discussion thread a little while back. Hopefully will be done in the morning!

Mum are you sure I did a search for you on  Germany and nothing came up with Caps name on it

Yes, CAPS did tell us over in S&S that DTKM was German.

[Blonde]

I saved it on  Fri Apr 25, 2008

[johan555]

most likely Frans van Deutekom was born in 1956.
was at school in Deurne, St. Willibrord school. 1963-1971.
not far from Nijmegen.

found this on Schoolbank (signing up is required).
http://www.schoolbank.nl/klasgenoot/frans-van-deutekom/1810618020

HAHA yes i saw that also  are you  a member there Caesu ?

sometimes i sign up to some made up school just to have a look. 

found another site old classmates of the St. Willibrord school:
http://projects.firstsoftware.nl/script/vriewill2.exe/email2?aanl33815474300000019047
you can send Deutekom an e-mail here.

it is a gymnasium, that's requirement to enter University. and it is near Nijmegen.
and the year of birth adds up (1956). so most likely it is him.

caesu  > http://www.pj-design.nl/burhoven/antecedenten-juristen-m.htm