Natalee Case Discussion #763 7/6 - 7/11

[Rob]

OK, since conversation has now been brought to a halt I'll try to explain a bit more.

After an exchange of emails in the last 24 hours I can tell you ******* will not be back to SM unless I am gone.  That's as much as I'm willing to say about it. 

again I apologize. Let's all move on, I'm sorry I even posted about it.

=========> moving on

I don't want you gone, we almost lost you once. I don't want to think about that again.

[wreck]

Quick poll...
 
 
Crime Scene:
(1) Beach.
(2) VanderSloot home.
(3) Other... Where? ___________

Body Disposal:
(1) Same night.
(2) Following night.
(3) Days later.
(4) Other... When? ___________

Disposal Site:
(1) Ocean.
(2) Landfill.
(3) Incinerator.
(4) Other... Where? ___________

2
2
4 = Buried in Aruba.

2
2
4

I agree...

3 years of corruption, lies, mis-direction at the expense of family grieving for the loss of their daughter

MOO

So far it looks like most agree that her body was disposed of the 2nd night. 

I think that her body WAS disposed of the second night - but I think that was burial #2 and there was at least one more after that.

[carpe noctem]

Quick poll...
 
 
Crime Scene:
(1) Beach.
(2) VanderSloot home.
(3) Other... Where? ___________

Body Disposal:
(1) Same night.
(2) Following night.
(3) Days later.
(4) Other... When? ___________

Disposal Site:
(1) Ocean.
(2) Landfill.
(3) Incinerator.
(4) Other... Where? ___________

2
2
4 = Buried in Aruba.

2
2
4

I agree...

3 years of corruption, lies, mis-direction at the expense of family grieving for the loss of their daughter

MOO

Crime Scene:

3 (a street or parking lot) and then 2

Body Disposal:

2 and then 3

Disposal Site:

1 ...because Joran told you, it is very big, isn't it? The li'l cold-hearted bastard meant it. I will never get over it.

[Pita]

Quick poll...
 
 
Crime Scene:
(1) Beach.
(2) VanderSloot home.
(3) Other... Where? ___________

Body Disposal:
(1) Same night.
(2) Following night.
(3) Days later.
(4) Other... When? ___________

Disposal Site:
(1) Ocean.
(2) Landfill.
(3) Incinerator.
(4) Other... Where? ___________

2
2
4 = Buried in Aruba.

2
2
4

I agree...

3 years of corruption, lies, mis-direction at the expense of family grieving for the loss of their daughter

MOO

So far it looks like most agree that her body was disposed of the 2nd night. 

Wasn't it the second night that Joran said he had to go to the casino so he could be seen on the cameras?  Perhaps he needed an alibi that evening when Natalee was being disposed of.

[KYcat]

Quick poll...
 
 
Crime Scene:
(1) Beach.
(2) VanderSloot home.
(3) Other... Where? ___________

Body Disposal:
(1) Same night.
(2) Following night.
(3) Days later.
(4) Other... When? ___________

Disposal Site:
(1) Ocean.
(2) Landfill.
(3) Incinerator.
(4) Other... Where? ___________

2
2
4 = Buried in Aruba.

2
2
4

I agree...

3 years of corruption, lies, mis-direction at the expense of family grieving for the loss of their daughter

MOO

So far it looks like most agree that her body was disposed of the 2nd night. 

I think that her body WAS disposed of the second night - but I think that was burial #2 and there was at least one more after that.

Do you think she was disposed (such an ugly word but that is the ugly truth of what they did) of in the ocean as the final disposal?  Was there enough evidence to justify the ocean searches or was it mis-direction?  Please, no flames, I would search land, ocean, everywhere no matter what.  I just feel she was buried on land (at least once).

[Dayhiker]

AMIGOE

   
 


Huge drop cruisetoerisme

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Awwww shucks, ain't that the chits? I believe we are going to be seeing more of this as gas prices continue to rise. Not just with cruise ships but airliners as well.

[KYcat]

Quick poll...
 
 
Crime Scene:
(1) Beach.
(2) VanderSloot home.
(3) Other... Where? ___________

Body Disposal:
(1) Same night.
(2) Following night.
(3) Days later.
(4) Other... When? ___________

Disposal Site:
(1) Ocean.
(2) Landfill.
(3) Incinerator.
(4) Other... Where? ___________

2
2
4 = Buried in Aruba.

2
2
4

I agree...

3 years of corruption, lies, mis-direction at the expense of family grieving for the loss of their daughter

MOO

So far it looks like most agree that her body was disposed of the 2nd night. 

Wasn't it the second night that Joran said he had to go to the casino so he could be seen on the cameras?  Perhaps he needed an alibi that evening when Natalee was being disposed of.

Wasn't this the night that Beth arrived on Aruba and they went to Vds house and confronted Paulus?  Then Paulus supposedly called Joran and he was gambling in the casino?!  Yes, he needed an alibi.....lying sack of chit was at the house with Dee-pock face..... IMO

[Dayhiker]

 
Crime Scene: Between Joran's killer hands

Body Disposal: Compliments of Pustus and ALE

Disposal Site: Ask Van der Straten

[wreck]

Quick poll...
 
 
Crime Scene:
(1) Beach.
(2) VanderSloot home.
(3) Other... Where? ___________

Body Disposal:
(1) Same night.
(2) Following night.
(3) Days later.
(4) Other... When? ___________

Disposal Site:
(1) Ocean.
(2) Landfill.
(3) Incinerator.
(4) Other... Where? ___________

2
2
4 = Buried in Aruba.

2
2
4

I agree...

3 years of corruption, lies, mis-direction at the expense of family grieving for the loss of their daughter

MOO

So far it looks like most agree that her body was disposed of the 2nd night. 

I think that her body WAS disposed of the second night - but I think that was burial #2 and there was at least one more after that.

Do you think she was disposed (such an ugly word but that is the ugly truth of what they did) of in the ocean as the final disposal?  Was there enough evidence to justify the ocean searches or was it mis-direction?  Please, no flames, I would search land, ocean, everywhere no matter what.  I just feel she was buried on land (at least once).

I think the FINAL disposal was at sea. It didn't happen from a small boat. It was a boat that was big enough to carry a large fish trap. Flame away - I think she was in that trap The Persistence already found.

[San]

Quick poll...
 
 
Crime Scene:
(1) Beach.
(2) VanderSloot home.
(3) Other... Where? ___________

Body Disposal:
(1) Same night.
(2) Following night.
(3) Days later.
(4) Other... When? ___________

Disposal Site:
(1) Ocean.
(2) Landfill.
(3) Incinerator.
(4) Other... Where? ___________

2
2
4 = Buried in Aruba.

2
2
4

I agree...

3 years of corruption, lies, mis-direction at the expense of family grieving for the loss of their daughter

MOO

So far it looks like most agree that her body was disposed of the 2nd night. 

Wasn't it the second night that Joran said he had to go to the casino so he could be seen on the cameras?  Perhaps he needed an alibi that evening when Natalee was being disposed of.

Wasn't this the night that Beth arrived on Aruba and they went to Vds house and confronted Paulus?  Then Paulus supposedly called Joran and he was gambling in the casino?!  Yes, he needed an alibi.....lying sack of chit was at the house with Dee-pock face..... IMO

I always said this.  They were hiding in the house.

[carpe noctem]

When I look at when the first disposal may have taken place...

I hone in on where the time line starts to go into a massive meltdown...

For me, that starts right as Joran begins his

massive alibi-lie campaign the next evening.

[Dayhiker]

Congratulations Blonde   

A BIG CONGRATS TO YOU BLONDE!!!

[Dayhiker]

here is the image I was looking for - Pustus has a heart attack live on TV!

THE PIECE-O-SHIT METER JUST WENT OUT THE ROOF!

[KYcat]

I think the FINAL disposal was at sea. It didn't happen from a small boat. It was a boat that was big enough to carry a large fish trap. Flame away - I think she was in that trap The Persistence already found.
[/quote]

No flames from me     I didn't want to get flamed!  I pray you are right - that the Persistence has already found her. 

[KYcat]

I think the FINAL disposal was at sea. It didn't happen from a small boat. It was a boat that was big enough to carry a large fish trap. Flame away - I think she was in that trap The Persistence already found.

No flames from me     I didn't want to get flamed!  I pray you are right - that the Persistence has already found her. 
[/quote]

Wreck - Sorry, I meant to reply to your quote.  Does this need to be fixed?  Klass, San, Help..

[wreck]

I think the FINAL disposal was at sea. It didn't happen from a small boat. It was a boat that was big enough to carry a large fish trap. Flame away - I think she was in that trap The Persistence already found.

No flames from me     I didn't want to get flamed!  I pray you are right - that the Persistence has already found her. 

Wreck - Sorry, I meant to reply to your quote.  Does this need to be fixed?  Klass, San, Help..
[/quote]
Here is my theory ( from late February early March):

I'm going to dig a bigger hole for myself as I think few are following what I'm saying.
1) The Persistence in all likelihood has found Natalee in the trap.
2) They really did not want to expose this just yet. Why? Because they still need to "prove"
the "whys" and "hows". They have a better chance of accomplishing this if the actual "perps"
aren't "clued in."
3) Why the "Dateline" irregularities? Because "Dateline" was already on board and they had to
 keep up "appearances" so they could continue with their "plan."
4) The posting of the pics on the internet put a severe cramp in their plans.
5) Why is trap so big? Because the body disposal did not happen that night as in Joran's story.
 Her body was put there at least a few days later by a bigger boat involving a larger cover-up.
This why they did not reveal their "finding" yet. They want to find out who has that bigger boat.

Once again -- my opinion

[carpe noctem]

Paulus has no established time line for that next night,

except for his own faulty memory and bullchit...

all the way up until he finally comes out of his hole, to meet

the Holloway-Twitty family face to face.

Pustus must have been a very busy eunuch that night!

[KYcat]

Quick poll...
 
 
Crime Scene:
(1) Beach.
(2) VanderSloot home.
(3) Other... Where? ___________

Body Disposal:
(1) Same night.
(2) Following night.
(3) Days later.
(4) Other... When? ___________

Disposal Site:
(1) Ocean.
(2) Landfill.
(3) Incinerator.
(4) Other... Where? ___________

2
2
4 = Buried in Aruba.

2
2
4

I agree...

3 years of corruption, lies, mis-direction at the expense of family grieving for the loss of their daughter

MOO

So far it looks like most agree that her body was disposed of the 2nd night. 

Wasn't it the second night that Joran said he had to go to the casino so he could be seen on the cameras?  Perhaps he needed an alibi that evening when Natalee was being disposed of.

Wasn't this the night that Beth arrived on Aruba and they went to Vds house and confronted Paulus?  Then Paulus supposedly called Joran and he was gambling in the casino?!  Yes, he needed an alibi.....lying sack of chit was at the house with Dee-pock face..... IMO

I always said this.  They were hiding in the house.

San - I agree .. I think they were trying to get their chit together that night.  I don't think they had time the night before.  Joran had to go to school to look normal, Paulus had to go to the BANK (and work, MAYBE).  They were waiting for the right time for the disposal and were certainly trying to get stories/alibis straight.  They thought they had time but Beth give them quite a surprise visit! 

[Rob]

here is the image I was looking for - Pustus has a heart attack live on TV!

THE PIECE-O-SHIT METER JUST WENT OUT THE ROOF!

right on Bro! he thinks his little life is just gonna go on after he does his deeds... I got news for Pustus - his life is over. TJ is back all over him... and he needs to know it. At some point we're going break him down and find out the entire true - even if I personally have to pull every tooth out of his mouth. We will get the true!!!

[KYcat]

Ok, I'll just keep on putting my foot in my mouth with my thoughts.

Wreck - I agree with your theory.  My mind has gone there many times and have thought along the same lines.  Just a feeling.  I do think she was originally buried on Aruba and then moved.  What an utter and complete lack of respect for a human being.  It makes me sick to think about what was done to Natalee.  I know some posters here think that she will never be found.  I feel, in my heart, that she will and justice will be served to those deserving.  I am always the optimist.