Natalee Case Discussion #763 7/6 - 7/11

[Blonde]

Police car taping from back seat of a police car on June 29

Joran: Don't you think that the police is interested in knowing that Satish touched a girl with the car?
[the word 'geraakt' is being used, translated here literally, but you can use the word 'hit' also in the context].
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Deepak: That's what you have stated. Stop with that bullshit.

Joran: I have said nothing about burying. The only thing what I can think of, is that you know people that it is the people of automotive enterprises.

Satish: Yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah,yeah,yeah, then I had a flat tire, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah... I picked you up, right. And then I went back to the beach for her.
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(Automotive Enterprises) witness statement:

PROCES - VERBAAL
<snip>
"On your question if it is normal that the man" Deepak KALPOE leaves his car at my garage, I answer you the following:

Because I had worked in the past on the car of Deepak, he approached me to keep z/n its car for him in my garage in the "Automotive Enterprises established" at Wayaca for him. I must note that I in the past the car of Deepak had twice left his car in my garage when I worked on it. With the car of Deepak I mean the grey four door private car of the make "Honda Civic".

Well  they may have made a  switch, Then poor Robert Wayne Benson ends up dead by natural causes locked in a container 

[BTgirl]

Lalas

Don't slink off into the corner, LOL.

What you're saying makes sense. Simian/Merian was using details heard in the news to create mysterious-sounding posts - right? And something that we imbue with deep meaning might only be a passing reference to something heard on the local Aruban news. It's kind of like believing song lyrics have some deep meaning and then finding out the writer wrote it while drunk and just thought the words sounded good in that order. 

[Rob]

So do you think there were 2 cars Rob ?
It is also possible to change the chairs etc
when there was blood on it

I'm not sure Johan... just don't know.

And to answer you question about the building on the map - I am not familiar with that area. Sorry.

[Bearlyhere]

I just had to bring this over from the Shango thread.  Mum has had such a stroke of genius and cracked a piece of the Shango code.



 Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #4
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Quote from: SS on Today at 10:39:04 PM
Quote from: MumInOhio on Today at 10:30:26 PM
Just dawned on me ...  LOL

The Noble Son of the Sun Breaking Through...

http://www.bondia.com/


Did you see the Logo!!!!


Mum, you are brilliant.  Bon Dia = John Chemaly, Jr.

Hmmm, that is an interesting thought to ponder...

But...how does it connect to the Orange Regal Visage?

LOL...Good Night, really!

That's indeed a GREAT FIND! 

I always thought the 'noble son' was someone affilitated with the "EL SOL NACIENTE" lodge (which means THE RISING SUN in Spanish) such as a Solongier/Solangier (SOL=SUN) or as in Saba's Governor Antoine Solongier's son.  Or perhaps from the Aruba KING SALOMON LODGE which would indeed provide the 'noble son'/king-prince relationship.  The Orange Regal Visage would be these lodges are affiliated with the mother lodges in the Netherlands. Merian E. mentioned "Bill's Lodgings" which could be a lodge a William or Willem (Bill Cromvort?) belongs to. 

Merian Ernest 7/27/05 9:09am
Guarding the door is Janus still. Who is strong, never broken and never will. Do not mock, for those who unknowingly cut their hands with swords have pure hearts. The Simian did not fill the salina with water or mud. Many want to engage, yet defeated will not admit. Not a little, not a lot. One after the other one stone will tumble the next. In a game of men a lot is said. Papi the Butterfly had the hand for double play and broke the game. Speak now and save Ganga’s face. Who heeded the jaguar’s rising? The noble son of the sun breaking through.

Merian 7/14/05 3:18 pm
What is wrong? The brothers had to be separated. The Babylonians have layed it thick and hard, but couldn’t get what they asked for. Tricked out cars and pc’s. One decided to stay home and the other went to help. The Babylonians knew he was a bifrons. He bleeped on the screen all the way to Bill’s lodgings

Or Williams:

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           on: June 03, 2008, 08:55:50 AM

Quote from: Bearlyhere on: June 03, 2008, 08:55:50 AM

Quote from: KarmaRoundUp on June 02, 2008, 06:06:13 PM

Quote from: Destiny on June 02, 2008, 12:26:37 PM

Quote from: Helen Back on June 02, 2008, 11:41:07 AM

Quote from: dennisintn on June 02, 2008, 11:31:28 AM

Quote from: johan555 on June 02, 2008, 10:43:24 AM
This is a confidential letter (part)to K Janssen
the lawyer taked about the at 11 oclock

lol, translate, please.
dennisintn

I think it says, "Ruh Roh Renee"

Thanks, Johan.

 
Notice the 2nd paragraph under the red arrow says EX DEA agent Eric Williams.....so Eric wasn't on some kinda undercover operation while on aruba?

doesn't it say "Ex DEA agent and also friend of the family"?

How can he be a friend of the family if they just met him?  They can write anything they want--it doesn't make it true.

[LilPuma]

Joran van der Sloot would begin a illegal coffeeshop in Thailand

Lindo Duvall of Radio 538 called Thursday to the Thai telephone number of Joran van der Sloot. Through a tip from a female listener of Radio 538 Lindo Duvall came to the number of Joran. "Joran tried to trick me a flikken, so here you have his number," said the listener who wants to remain anonymous.

The trick where the listener had turned out to be about the smuggling of money. The listener of Radio 538 is an ex of Joran and had 34,000 dollars, his pokeraccount, smuggling across the border into Thailand.

"With that money would Joran an illegal coffeeshop begin in Thailand. He has now been drugsvriendjes there and has always held. He has sent me a cheque and says he is calling smst me 100 times a day or the cheque is already inside, but I trust him for not actually cent, "said the listener of Lindo Duvall.

When Lindo Duvall Joran called on his Thai phone he indeed. Of course he don't wanted to  chat and threw him straight away again.

here you can hear joran's voice

http://www.radio538.nl/web/show/id=46246/contentid=83383

Radio show host is a hottie!!! lol I would switch to that station!!! What a hoot!!!

My azz he has $34,000 in a poker account!!!! lol

And a coffee shop??!! So now instead of spiking drinks he is into spiking coffee??!!  Wish we knew where he was...mayb the local authorities should hear about his illegal activities!!!

I totally agree with the hottie part.  He reminds me of a British carpenter that is on some HGTV shows.      But almost as important is that it confirms Joran is in Thailand.  As for the coffee shop, don't they sell the evil weed in coffeeshops in the Netherlands?  Maybe it's some kind of slang terminology.  Or maybe Starbucks has employment opportunities there.  Or maybe it's going to be an internet cafe.  I'll keep reading, maybe the answer is already posted.   

[MumInOhio]

Lalas

Don't slink off into the corner, LOL.

What you're saying makes sense. Simian/Merian was using details heard in the news to create mysterious-sounding posts - right? And something that we imbue with deep meaning might only be a passing reference to something heard on the local Aruban news. It's kind of like believing song lyrics have some deep meaning and then finding out the writer wrote it while drunk and just thought the words sounded good in that order. 

Good Morning BT

 

[klaasend]

Look at Glenda's (Julia Renfro's) latest claim.  That Dutch authorities escorted Joran to Thailand? Dutch posters - for what reason would that happen or is Glenda FOS as usual?

[LilPuma]

Klaas, no doubt the story is Joran was escorted by Dutch authorities to get him out of the country safely before being lynched by angry mobs of Beth Holloway/Peter DeVries supporters. 

[Bearlyhere]

That confidential letter Johan posted is here:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2879.msg386434#msg386434

It didn't come through in my post, sorry.

[klaasend]

Klaas, no doubt the story is Joran was escorted by Dutch authorities to get him out of the country safely before being lynched by angry mobs of Beth Holloway/Peter DeVries supporters. 

 

[LilPuma]

Nothing about Joran's future career plans, but listening to the clip from Radio 538 it seems coffeeshop in Dutch is "coffeeshop".      

[Bearlyhere]

Look at Glenda's (Julia Renfro's) latest claim.  That Dutch authorities escorted Joran to Thailand? Dutch posters - for what reason would that happen or is Glenda FOS as usual?

If they escorted him, why didn't they know he had pot on him or were they smoking pot in the bathroom on the plane with him, too?   

[johan555]

So do you think there were 2 cars Rob ?
It is also possible to change the chairs etc
when there was blood on it

I'm not sure Johan... just don't know.

And to answer you question about the building on the map - I am not familiar with that area. Sorry.

thanks Rob
There was a guy on this form "sleuth or sleut" or something who knows that area .
I think the 2 K brothers took the body with them in the car
They start with the new houses just behind Deepaks house in Jan or feb 2005

In dec 2005 the houses are finished

 PIC : December 2005

[LilPuma]

Have to go finish laundry, but I'm thinking we should ask Greta to have Frank Dane and Peter DeVries on her show, live and in person, on the same night, just for the swoon factor.  Maybe throw in a little John Q. Kelly to put us over the top. 

 

[johan555]

Look at Glenda's (Julia Renfro's) latest claim.  That Dutch authorities escorted Joran to Thailand? Dutch posters - for what reason would that happen or is Glenda FOS as usual?

If they escorted him, why didn't they know he had pot on him or were they smoking pot in the bathroom on the plane with him, too?   

Joran is not safe anymore on the street
I think that joran is in den Dolder(altrecht) in a semi closed facility
Justice facility
And if he wants to travel they should protect him

[klaasend]

Look at Glenda's (Julia Renfro's) latest claim.  That Dutch authorities escorted Joran to Thailand? Dutch posters - for what reason would that happen or is Glenda FOS as usual?

If they escorted him, why didn't they know he had pot on him or were they smoking pot in the bathroom on the plane with him, too?   

Joran is not safe anymore on the street
I think that joran is in den Dolder(altrecht) in a semi closed facility
Justice facility
And if he wants to travel they should protect him

Could Joran leave the den Dolder facility sometimes? 

[BTgirl]

I'm not doubting Johan, but it doesn't take much to confuse me. 

If Joran is in Den Dolder, how did the person from the radio station call him in Thailand yesterday and get him on the phone? Was the phone call made earlier and we only discussed it yesterday?

Thanks.

[johan555]

Look at Glenda's (Julia Renfro's) latest claim.  That Dutch authorities escorted Joran to Thailand? Dutch posters - for what reason would that happen or is Glenda FOS as usual?

If they escorted him, why didn't they know he had pot on him or were they smoking pot in the bathroom on the plane with him, too?   

Joran is not safe anymore on the street
I think that joran is in den Dolder(altrecht) in a semi closed facility
Justice facility
And if he wants to travel they should protect him

Could Joran leave the den Dolder facility sometimes? 

I was there several times 
I think they have to protect him
So when he wants to leave the facility there is alway another person next to him (police or a small bodyguard)
I saw there some young guys on mountain bikes,they were going quit fast (high speed0 through den Dolder
And in the front of that group was a man with a walkie talkie  and a gun in his belt  and at the back
also a man with a walkie talkie  and a gun in his belt  .
I think i saw Joran in that group but unfortunately they go to fast for a sharp pic
or i was to late 

[klaasend]

I'm not doubting Johan, but it doesn't take much to confuse me. 

If Joran is in Den Dolder, how did the person from the radio station call him in Thailand yesterday and get him on the phone? Was the phone call made earlier and we only discussed it yesterday?

Thanks.

BT - that's why I'm asking Johan about leaving den Dolder.  I thought den Dolder was minimum security and that Joran could check himself in and out.  (I could be completely wrong)

[johan555]

I'm not doubting Johan, but it doesn't take much to confuse me. 

If Joran is in Den Dolder, how did the person from the radio station call him in Thailand yesterday and get him on the phone? Was the phone call made earlier and we only discussed it yesterday?

Thanks.

That is easy
You buy a pre pay phone (or another ) card in Thailand and you have a Thai phone number
When you are in Holland you can also use that card