Natalee Case Discussion #763 7/6 - 7/11

[Miss-Underestimated]

LOL greaseball.  I can say that too..  I am Italian too,  Piasano, he is not

[San]

LOL greaseball.  I can say that too..  I am Italian too,  Piasano, he is not

 

[klaasend]

I went to lunch today with my friend I work with and we went shopping.  On our way back my friend goes I have to go in the this store.  I said well I'm waiting out here and you can go in.  I'm standing there and I see this guy walking toward my way and for a second I said I know this guy.  I quickly realized who it was.  Joe Tacopina.....LOLOL.  He had his hair slick back, blue jeans, sneakers and he had a tan (looked red).  But his skin looked greasy and he looks bigger on TV than he really is.  His lower waist is skinny.

     I'm affraid I would have called him a name in Italian, LOL

  You know I saw him and I thought to myself greaseball 

Sorry if I offended anyone with that name but I am italian also and it doesn't bother me.  He is your typical guy who gew up in Brooklyn.

I would have gone up to him and said:  "Hey, I RECOGNIZE you! .........I saw a picture of Joran Van Der Sloot with his hand over you on the beach!"

I will forever remember him in this memorable photo op with PVDS and his zipper   

[Miss-Underestimated]

That photo almost made me gag,  have a nice night.  I am up past my bedtime. 

[klaasend]

Nite Miss-Underestimated!

[San]

That photo almost made me gag,  have a nice night.  I am up past my bedtime. 

Nite Miss Underestimated.

[2NJSons_Mom]

So, San....you didn't interrogate Joe Taco on the street at gun point....you're slipping...  

[Tylergal]

So, San....you didn't interrogate Joe Taco on the street at gun point....you're slipping...  

[johan555]

JOHAN555:  You have the "new houses" marked in the wrong location on the first photo - they are actually off the bottom end of the photo. The area you have marked as "new houses" in the first photo is actually the street above the new homes in the second photo.

To answer your question about when they were built, a lot of the development was completed with people living there at the time of Natalee's disappearance.

The first pic is the situation in jan 2005 just behind Deepak's house .
The Pics 2&3 is the situation now
Why were the Kalpoe's cleaning their car so late ?

I am looking for information when they started with the new project just behind their house .

Sleuth thank you !
I only mark the position were the houses are now on pic 1 ( i haven't another pic )
you said :
To answer your question about when they were built, a lot of the development was completed with people living there at the time of Natalee's disappearance.
So did they start there in 2005 and in witch month ?
Did the change the road there ?
So were can i find such information ?
Because it is possible the dump a body under a road or a house

[msmarple]

http://www.awe24.com/   07/10/2008

AUTORIDADNAN A HACI ENTRADA HUDICIAL DEN 2 CAS DEN RANCHOSTRAAT
A DETENE 8 PERSONA, A CONFISCA AUTO CANTIDAD DI DROGA Y VARIOS ARMA

Ultimo tempo, tur biaha cu tende di un of otro problema, e ta bay caba den Ranchostraat, cu a bira e centro di distribucion di droga. Mester bisa cu porfin autoridadnan hudicial a dicidi di haci un entrada hudicial ayera den oranan di merdia, despues di a studia e situacion hopi bon. Manera menciona, 2 cas a resulta di ta centro di distribucion di droga, pero tambe ta cambia tur obhetonan horta p’e droga di bo gusto.

Diaranzon husticia a dicidi di pone un paro n’e accionnan aki, unda a haci entrada hudicial na 2 cas den Ranchostraat. Recientemente mesun tipo di accion a tuma lugar caba den Johan de Witstraat, cu tabata otro centro di distribucion. E team hudicial a aresta un total di 8 persona, homber y muher cu ta Arubiano, Dominicano, Colombiano y por ta di mas nacionalidad.

Polis a confisca un cantidad di droga, e.o. cocaina, marihuana, base, “piedra”, etc. Tambe a dicidi di confisca atributonan pa prepara droga y asina tambe por a mira varios articulo procedente di ladronisia. A confisca auto, a haya arma di candela, esta aki por mira cu e cantidad di ladronisianan cu tin den centro di Oranjestad, ta sosode pa adictonan di droga, y ta horta pa haya droga. Pues un conclusion tin di e accionnan aki, cu aki ta bendemento di droga mes ta bin ta tumando lugar for di e dos casnan aki den Ranchostraat, anto for di basta tempo.

Hasta den plafond tabatin droga warda, pero polis a logra di bay cu nan tambe. Cu e hendenan aki ta sofestica, a keda confirma tambe, con nan tabatin camara chiquito poni pafo, pa nan por controla polis, ki ora cu nan por prepara pa haci un entrada hudicial, pero ayera nan a faya. N’e direccionnan unda polis a haci entrada hudicial, ta famia Quandt ta biba. Y loke a hala nos atencion, t’e hecho cu n’e centro di distibucion di droga, tin masha mucha ta bay pasa dia tambe.

4 Ora di accion tabatin, cu sigur a duna su fruto, y ta di spera cu lo caba cu e centro di distribucion aki. Ta un secreto publico, cu den henter becindad tin un cantidad di traficacion y benta di droga. Ta di spera cu pa algun dia, den e becindad lo tin tranquilidad, maske cu hopi hende ta kere cu e centro di distribucion lo muda awor, maske cu ey banda ta sigui bende droga y un pa otro, nan bingo tambe lo hunga. AWE24.com su reporteronan tabata prome n’e sitio, pa cual nos tin un relato grafico masha amplio.

Online Papiamentu translation:

autoridadnan owing to haci entrance hudicial
in 2 cas in ranchostraat
owing to detene 8 person, owing to confisca car
cantidad of drugs y several arm

ultimo time, all trip cu hear of one or another problem, the is bay end in ranchostraat, cu owing to become the centro of distribucion of drugs. have to tell cu at last autoridadnan hudicial owing to dicidi of haci one entrance hudicial yesterday {07/09/2008} in oranan of afternoon, after of owing to study the situation much good. as menciona, 2 cas owing to resulta of is centro of distribucion of drugs, but also is change all obhetonan steal p’e drugs of you taste.

diaranzon husticia owing to dicidi of place one paro n’e accionnan here, where owing to haci entrance hudicial at 2 cas in ranchostraat. recientemente same type of accion did take lugar end in johan de witstraat, cu was another centro of distribucion. the team hudicial owing to aresta one overall of 8 person, man y muher cu is aruban, dominicano, colombiano y can is of more nacionalidad.

police owing to confisca one cantidad of drugs, e.o. cocaina, marihuana, base, “piedra”, etc. also owing to dicidi of confisca atributonan for prepara drugs y so also can owing to see several articulo procedente of ladronisia. owing to confisca car, owing to achieve arm of candela, esta here can see cu the cantidad of ladronisianan cu have in centro of oranjestad, is sosode for adictonan of drugs, y is steal for achieve drugs. then one conclusion have of the accionnan here, cu here is bendemento of drugs self is come is tumando lugar for of the two casnan here in ranchostraat, then for of enough time.

even in plafond had drugs keep, but police owing to succeed of bay cu they also. cu the hendenan here is sofestica, owing to stay confirma also, con they had camara chiquito poni pafo, for they can controla police, when cu they can prepara for haci one entrance hudicial, but yesterday they owing to abort. n’e direccionnan where police owing to haci entrance hudicial, is family quandt live. y thing owing to wing we atencion, t’e mature cu n’e centro of distibucion of drugs, have very child is bay happen day also. {??}

4 hour of accion had, cu assure owing to give his fruto, y is of wait for cu will end cu the centro of distribucion here. is one secreto publico, cu in all becindad have one cantidad of traficacion y throw of drugs. is of wait for cu for some day, in the becindad will have tranquilidad, although cu much person is believe cu the centro of distribucion will muda now, although cu ey near is follow sell drugs y one for another, they bingo also will play. {??}  awe24.com his reporteronan was first n’e sitio, for cual we have one relato grafico very amplio.

[johan555]

Police woman(28) Killed by man (49)from Aruba  in Amsterdam


http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.telegraaf.nl%2Fbinnenland%2F1460980%2F__Agente__28__doodgeschoten__.html%3Fp%3D2%2C1&hl=nl&ie=UTF8&sl=nl&tl=en

[johan555]

[msmarple]

johan555 - can you please also post the above post, on the Murder & Crime thread? Here is a link to the current page of the M&C thread:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=188.680

Thank you.

[mrskub]

Policewoman shot dead (update)

Thursday 10 July 2008

The police officer shot dead in Amstelveen on Wednesday night has been identified as 28-year-old Gabriëlle Cevat, news agency ANP said on Thursday. A 49-year-old man from Amsterdam has been arrested in connection with the shooting.

Amsterdam police chief Bernard Welten said her station was extremely shocked by the death and sent his condolences to friends and family. Her partner is also a police officer.

According to ANP, the Cevat was in plain clothes and driving to a police station in Amsterdam Noord for her night shift when she noticed a BMW driving erratically. She alerted her colleagues and drove after the car.

The car stopped in the Piet de Winterlaan in Amstelveen. The police officer got out and identified herself to the driver who shot her once in her upper body. He fled into a nearby house. The three teenagers who were home escaped through a window. Cevat died later in hospital.

The suspect was involved in another incident in Amstelveen earlier in the evening during which shots were fired at a door, ANP reports. The man is reportedly known to the police and has a criminal record for sex and violent crimes.

The shooting is the sixth death of a police officer in active service since 1977 and the first since 2004.

© DutchNews.nl

http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2008/07/police_officer_shot_dead_in_am.php

[johan555]

johan555 - can you please also post the above post, on the Murder & Crime thread? Here is a link to the current page of the M&C thread:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=188.680

Thank you.

At your service Mrs Marple

[johan555]

Policewoman shot dead (update)

Thursday 10 July 2008

The police officer shot dead in Amstelveen on Wednesday night has been identified as 28-year-old Gabriëlle Cevat, news agency ANP said on Thursday. A 49-year-old man from Amsterdam has been arrested in connection with the shooting.

Amsterdam police chief Bernard Welten said her station was extremely shocked by the death and sent his condolences to friends and family. Her partner is also a police officer.

According to ANP, the Cevat was in plain clothes and driving to a police station in Amsterdam Noord for her night shift when she noticed a BMW driving erratically. She alerted her colleagues and drove after the car.

The car stopped in the Piet de Winterlaan in Amstelveen. The police officer got out and identified herself to the driver who shot her once in her upper body. He fled into a nearby house. The three teenagers who were home escaped through a window. Cevat died later in hospital.

The suspect was involved in another incident in Amstelveen earlier in the evening during which shots were fired at a door, ANP reports. The man is reportedly known to the police and has a criminal record for sex and violent crimes.

The shooting is the sixth death of a police officer in active service since 1977 and the first since 2004.

© DutchNews.nl

http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2008/07/police_officer_shot_dead_in_am.php

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The Bloody Bastard  shot her the first time he saw her

[msmarple]

Thanks johan.

I'll copy mrskub's post over on M&C too.

[ldstlou]

Bringing over a couple of posts from RU this morning re: DEA Agent Williams.

Reho "flip-flopping"    She is totally losing it!!!

 

Re: glenda

Glenda wrote:


I don't owe anyone anything.

All I know is if you call the consulate in Curacao, you might get him on the phone.

Beth said he was DEA. She might of lied and I repeated her lie, I have no idea. Shame on me for believing anything Beth sadi.

Elaine S Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:45 am

And it took 3+ years for this lie to be discovered? 

iquitos Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:57 am   
Re: but you did swear on a stack of bibles that he was

Glenda wrote:


I never swore on anything... I know that Beth et al told us that he was DEA... Beth pointed him out as such, and I recognized him a home owner in Wayaka Residence. Mistaken identity?  Either way... DEA agents outed are either DEAD or not DEA agents.

iquitos Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:57 am   
Please Glenda. It is way too late for that. The cows are out of the barn. You were so certain. Now you just say it was a mistake and blame Natalee's mother? You say he was outed yet I can reach him by calling the Consulate? Cover not very deep is it? I suggested he was with the Consulate and you said he was not. Either you have been infected by the flip flop affliction or there is more than one of you and you don't compare notes before posting. if we can't rely on what people of good will post, we are lost.   

[SS]

Good Morning Monkeys,

I need help from lots of smart monkeys!  Last night, I discovered names of four Zedans from Venezuela on John Chemaly's Facebook.  Two hours later, they were gone.  The names were Rebeca Zedan, Jorge Zedan, Johnny Enrique Zedan, and Virginia A. Rahn Zedan.  These are similar to the four Zedan's on Sasha's Facebook - Natasha Zedan, Johnny Enrique Zedan, Vriginia A. Rahn Zedan, and Silvia Zedan.  Chemaly, Sasha, and John's mother (Glenda) are on the Facebooks of the Chemaly, Abudei, and Zedan families in Maracaibo.  They are connected to each other and we need to find out how.  Rebeca Zedan, Ilse Caroline Chemaly Abudei, Maribel Chemaly du Maratoya, and Virginia A. Rahn Zedan are big connections.  Somehow, Freddy Zedan appears to be related to John Chemaly.

http://www.facebook.com/s.php?q=ilse+caroline+chemaly+abudei&init=q
http://www.facebook.com/friends/?id=668840680
http://www.facebook.com/friends/?id=623976171
http://www.facebook.com/friends/?id=696465962
http://www.facebook.com/friends/?id=742645320
http://www.facebook.com/friends/?id=670011150
http://www.facebook.com/friends/?id=595530000
http://www.facebook.com/friends/?id=1310574381
http://www.facebook.com/friends/?id=724325175
http://www.facebook.com/s.php?q=erika+chemaly&init=q

[klaasend]

Good Morning Monkeys,

I need help from lots of smart monkeys!  Last night, I discovered names of four Zedans from Venezuela on John Chemaly's Facebook.  Two hours later, they were gone.  The names were Rebeca Zedan, Jorge Zedan, Johnny Enrique Zedan, and Virginia A. Rahn Zedan.  These are similar to the four Zedan's on Sasha's Facebook - Natasha Zedan, Johnny Enrique Zedan, Vriginia A. Rahn Zedan, and Silvia Zedan.  Chemaly, Sasha, and John's mother (Glenda) are on the Facebooks of the Chemaly, Abudei, and Zedan families in Maracaibo.  They are connected to each other and we need to find out how.  Rebeca Zedan, Ilse Caroline Chemaly Abudei, Maribel Chemaly du Maratoya, and Virginia A. Rahn Zedan are big connections.  Somehow, Freddy Zedan appears to be related to John Chemaly.

http://www.facebook.com/s.php?q=ilse+caroline+chemaly+abudei&init=q
http://www.facebook.com/friends/?id=668840680
http://www.facebook.com/friends/?id=623976171
http://www.facebook.com/friends/?id=696465962
http://www.facebook.com/friends/?id=742645320
http://www.facebook.com/friends/?id=670011150
http://www.facebook.com/friends/?id=595530000
http://www.facebook.com/friends/?id=1310574381
http://www.facebook.com/friends/?id=724325175
http://www.facebook.com/s.php?q=erika+chemaly&init=q

SS - from your first link:

Ilse Caroline Chemaly Abudei





Zedan's listed as friends:





Johnny Zedan's friends:

SASHA